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THE MONKEY IS THE USA BUT WHO IS THE CHICKEN ?;
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john nguyen
Jul 25, 2012, 10:53:40 AM7/25/12
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THE MONKEY IS THE USA BUT WHO IS THE CHICKEN ?;
It should be clear from El Chino’s two posts KILL THE CHICKEN TO SCARE
THE MONKEY (Part 1 and 2) that the only power that can stop China
raise to the status of sole superpower, i.e., the Monkey, according
to the Chinese Neocons and Neocolonialists is the USA.
Chinese Neocons and Neocolonialists included people inside the CCP
but also outside of the CCP in probably equal proportion. Their
ideology originated from something much older than Communism. It
derived from 3000 Years of Chinese Imperialism and being invaded by
Imperialists, The Liao, the Kim, Mongols, Genghis Khan, Manchurians
and Finally White Men.
( El Chino is on the record, now, declares that American
Neocolonialism toward countries like the UK, France and Japan etc… is
thousand times better than the Eternal Fraternity professed by China
till very recently toward Vietnam, between two countries sharing same
Culture, Natural borders and history of struggle against White Man
Colonialism because in reality this Chinese kind of Eternal Fraternity
resulted in acts of Piracy of China against Vietnamese Fishermen,
stealing their catches, cell phone and communication equipment. I
could not see a single act of similar nature exerted by the US against
any British, French or Japanese during and after the Cold War).
So who is the first Chicken to be killed in China raise to be sole
Superpower of the World. There will be more Chicken on China’s path .
People should not nourish any illusion. The path that Chinese Neocons
wanted to lead China is not a peaceful growth into a regional power
but to reconstitute the Middle Empire (Trung Quoc) center of the
Universe. The General Secretary of the CCP will be the new Son of
Heaven (Thien Tu). America should not nourish any illusion that
China would be satisfied with dividing the World between the USA and
itself. Here El Chino is guided by the Chinese Wisdom which is
anchored in the mind of all Chinese like a gene in its DNA.
Thus Chinese Wisdom Spake: There should not be 2 tigers living in
the same jungle . There should not be 2 suns shining on the same
World. One should die.
While El Chino had identified the Monkey, He had not identified the
Chicken because even the Chinese Neocons do not know who the Chicken
is or should be. Is it Vietnam ? It might be too tough to swallow.
Is it the Philippines ? China might then provoke America’s ire and
Wrath because the Philippines are protected by a treaty of Defense
with Uncle Sam.
As El Chino had said. Chinese are very smart. Their smartness
derived from Evolution. Living in relatively developed societies for
at least 40 centuries with conflicts and wars. They know that to
survive they have to adapt and that force alone can not always win.
Here is another example of Chinese wisdom: The first Emperor of the
Han Dynasty (200 BC to 200 AD) wanted to kill all of the citizen of
countries He conquered to destroy any germ of rebellion. His
Political Advisor discouraged Him by the following: You conquered
your empire on horse back. You cannot rule an Empire on horse back.
You should use an army not of soldiers but of educated people like
myself to rule the Empire on your behalf. We are not trained in
military science and do not have an army to rebel against you but only
the executant of your desire which we transform into a series of
edicts which we will make the people to obey. If they disobey we will
cut off their head in your name.
El Chino affirmed that Chinese are very wise; and the Chinese Neocons
are not bound to win the power struggle in the Politburo, the Central
Committee because there are wiser people like Wen Jia Bao who
understand that China is not strong at least for the time being. It
will take a few decades to be invincible. At that time it is quite
reasonable to expect that China will become more self confident and,
yes, more reasonable.
It should be clear from El Chino’s two posts KILL THE CHICKEN TO SCARE
THE MONKEY (Part 1 and 2) that the only power that can stop China
raise to the status of sole superpower, i.e., the Monkey, according
to the Chinese Neocons and Neocolonialists is the USA.
Chinese Neocons and Neocolonialists included people inside the CCP
but also outside of the CCP in probably equal proportion. Their
ideology originated from something much older than Communism. It
derived from 3000 Years of Chinese Imperialism and being invaded by
Imperialists, The Liao, the Kim, Mongols, Genghis Khan, Manchurians
and Finally White Men.
( El Chino is on the record, now, declares that American
Neocolonialism toward countries like the UK, France and Japan etc… is
thousand times better than the Eternal Fraternity professed by China
till very recently toward Vietnam, between two countries sharing same
Culture, Natural borders and history of struggle against White Man
Colonialism because in reality this Chinese kind of Eternal Fraternity
resulted in acts of Piracy of China against Vietnamese Fishermen,
stealing their catches, cell phone and communication equipment. I
could not see a single act of similar nature exerted by the US against
any British, French or Japanese during and after the Cold War).
So who is the first Chicken to be killed in China raise to be sole
Superpower of the World. There will be more Chicken on China’s path .
People should not nourish any illusion. The path that Chinese Neocons
wanted to lead China is not a peaceful growth into a regional power
but to reconstitute the Middle Empire (Trung Quoc) center of the
Universe. The General Secretary of the CCP will be the new Son of
Heaven (Thien Tu). America should not nourish any illusion that
China would be satisfied with dividing the World between the USA and
itself. Here El Chino is guided by the Chinese Wisdom which is
anchored in the mind of all Chinese like a gene in its DNA.
Thus Chinese Wisdom Spake: There should not be 2 tigers living in
the same jungle . There should not be 2 suns shining on the same
World. One should die.
While El Chino had identified the Monkey, He had not identified the
Chicken because even the Chinese Neocons do not know who the Chicken
is or should be. Is it Vietnam ? It might be too tough to swallow.
Is it the Philippines ? China might then provoke America’s ire and
Wrath because the Philippines are protected by a treaty of Defense
with Uncle Sam.
As El Chino had said. Chinese are very smart. Their smartness
derived from Evolution. Living in relatively developed societies for
at least 40 centuries with conflicts and wars. They know that to
survive they have to adapt and that force alone can not always win.
Here is another example of Chinese wisdom: The first Emperor of the
Han Dynasty (200 BC to 200 AD) wanted to kill all of the citizen of
countries He conquered to destroy any germ of rebellion. His
Political Advisor discouraged Him by the following: You conquered
your empire on horse back. You cannot rule an Empire on horse back.
You should use an army not of soldiers but of educated people like
myself to rule the Empire on your behalf. We are not trained in
military science and do not have an army to rebel against you but only
the executant of your desire which we transform into a series of
edicts which we will make the people to obey. If they disobey we will
cut off their head in your name.
El Chino affirmed that Chinese are very wise; and the Chinese Neocons
are not bound to win the power struggle in the Politburo, the Central
Committee because there are wiser people like Wen Jia Bao who
understand that China is not strong at least for the time being. It
will take a few decades to be invincible. At that time it is quite
reasonable to expect that China will become more self confident and,
yes, more reasonable.
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 11:29:54 AM7/25/12
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VN has been already on the way to China's stomach. The question is how
long does it take to digest the whole thing?
Philippines is the one you should say, "It might be too tough to
swallow."
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 11:47:54 AM7/25/12
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hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 11:52:02 AM7/25/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
the bone is the US behind, besides, it is a small chicken (chick)
compared to Vietnam (not important and much profits for China to
swallow).
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 12:08:48 PM7/25/12
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On Jul 25, 8:52 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 11:47 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The Filipinos have no bones. It's a lot easier to shallow.-
>
> On Jul 25, 11:47 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The Filipinos have no bones. It's a lot easier to shallow.-
>
> the bone is the US behind,
When you have to depend on others for support, then you have no
bones. The U.S. has its own problems.
There was a program on the "Military Channel" a couple of days ago
called "Secret Access - Superpower". It clearly identifies China is
the next superpower within the next 10 years. That's even faster than
I thought. I thought it will be 20 - 30 years before China attains
"superpower status".
The program stated China has the "quietest submarines in the world",
even surpassed the U.S.
> besides, it is a small chicken (chick)
> compared to Vietnam (not important and much profits for China to
> swallow).
population. Both will be problems for China.
Satish
Jul 25, 2012, 12:10:53 PM7/25/12
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restaurant with your live-in domestic partner haghoua?
In the mean time, here's the conversation rst had with his live-in
domestic partner, haghoua, the last time they went out to eat at their
favorite Chinese restaurant - the restaurant was founded by rst's
great grandfather in the 19th century and is very popular with the rst
clan in Merced, CA.
haghoua:
天啊。这菜里是什么啊？- Tiān a. Zhè cài lǐ shì shénme a?
rst:
呃！是只蟑螂。 - È! Shì zhī zhānglánɡ.
haghoua:
真太恶心了！ - Zhēn tài ěxīn le!
rst:
我们告诉服务生吧。她会给你换份的。 - Wǒmen gàosù fúwùshēng ba. Tā huì gěi nǐ huàn
yífèn de.
haghoua:
我不想换了！我觉得吃不下任何东西了。 - Wǒ bùxiǎng huàn le! Wǒ juédé chī bú xià rèrhé
dōngxi le.
rst:
好吧。我们去跟餐馆经理反映一下这个问题吧。- Hǎo ba. Wǒmen qù gēn cānguǎn jīnglǐ fǎnyìng
yíxià zhègè wèntí ba.
haghoua:
好。希望他们以后注意点儿卫生。- Hǎo. Xīwàng tāmen yǐhòu zhùyì diǎnr wèishēng.
Note that rst was quite contented with what he was served - he wanted
an alternate dish only for his domestic partner, haghoua.
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 12:23:00 PM7/25/12
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Indochina for the last century? Now it is time to reap. Vietnam will
soon officially become the fifth star among the already four small
stars on the Chinese flag.
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 12:30:45 PM7/25/12
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about Vietnam.
I think if you are truly of Vietnamese background, you should study
the events leading to the Vietnam War and truly understand what was
behind the war, and what happened during the war.
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 12:35:24 PM7/25/12
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I don't have and don't want to waste my time to educate you about
Vietnam war here.
TheInquirer
Jul 25, 2012, 12:41:41 PM7/25/12
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On 25/07/2012 10:53 PM, john nguyen wrote:
> THE MONKEY IS THE USA BUT WHO IS THE CHICKEN ?;
> It should be clear from El Chino’s two posts KILL THE CHICKEN TO SCARE
are they as powerful as the illuminati? or are they part of the
> THE MONKEY IS THE USA BUT WHO IS THE CHICKEN ?;
> It should be clear from El Chino’s two posts KILL THE CHICKEN TO SCARE
illuminati? or are both USA and China puppets of the illuminati?
--
I ask, becos I'm curious.
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 1:22:04 PM7/25/12
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Were you there while it was going on?
I bet you were NOT even born at the time of the Vietnam War.
> I don't have and don't want to waste my time to educate you about
> Vietnam war here.
through the war.
It is YOU needed education on the Vietnam War.
tac ho
Jul 25, 2012, 2:05:54 PM7/25/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive
> - Show quoted text -
Edge
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/20thcentury/articles/chinesesupport.aspx
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 4:25:52 PM7/25/12
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On Jul 25, 11:05 am, tac ho <hotac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 1:22 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 25, 9:35 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How much do you know about the Vietnam War?
> > Were you there while it was going on?
> > I bet you were NOT even born at the time of the Vietnam War.
>
> On Jul 25, 1:22 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 25, 9:35 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How much do you know about the Vietnam War?
> > Were you there while it was going on?
> > I bet you were NOT even born at the time of the Vietnam War.
>
> > You don't have to educate me. I lived through it, and I saw it all
> > through the war.
>
> > It is YOU needed education on the Vietnam War.-
>
> > through the war.
>
> > It is YOU needed education on the Vietnam War.-
>
> Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War:
> The Decisive Edge
>
> http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/20thcentury/articles/chinesesupp...
> The Decisive Edge
>
So what is your point with Bob Seal's article?
Are you trying to say China shouldn't help Vietnam to gain
Independence?
You wanted Vietnam to be a colony of France?
What are you trying to say, hotac?
Satish
Jul 25, 2012, 4:48:24 PM7/25/12
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any other country. To that end, it is quite willing to make
investments.
Having made the investments, the bandit regime in Beijing now wants to
recoup profits. It tried so in a big way even in 1979 barely 4 years
after US withdrawal from Vietnam.
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 5:13:06 PM7/25/12
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Satish is too brainwashed. He's nothing but a crazy twisted warp-
minded lunatic. He should be locked in an insane asylum.
>
minded lunatic. He should be locked in an insane asylum.
>
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 5:16:44 PM7/25/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
> - Show quoted text -
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 5:22:29 PM7/25/12
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> There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
Well, according to Bob Seal, Vietnam had its free lunch courtesy of
China.
Without China's help, Vietnam still be a France colony along with
Cambodia and Laos as part of "French Indochina".
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 5:37:38 PM7/25/12
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:-))
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 7:14:53 PM7/25/12
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"French Indochina"? The colonial days are over.
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 8:01:29 PM7/25/12
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colonized countries. What happened? They were the new boss, and were
even worse. Look at all the communist countries which belong to either
China or Russia (Soviet Union). How well they were? The Killing
Fields? Now look at North Korea and Cuba, the leftover after the
collapse of the Soviet Union. Mao killed 50 millions Chinese. Stalin
killed how many Russians?
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
It is worst to be part of China.
Look at the way the Chinese treat Manchus, Mongols, Hui, and Tibetans.
That is the hell on earth. And they never get independence again once
they are part of China.
China is the biggest threat, not only in Asia, but the world.
That is why now China becomes isolated.
What will happen next?
Wait and see.
hotac
Jul 25, 2012, 9:28:59 PM7/25/12
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On Jul 25, 7:14 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don't you remember Hong kong colony? Where most Chinese people would
rather live, mainland China or the tiny Hong Kong island under the
rule of British?
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 10:39:00 PM7/25/12
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On Jul 25, 5:01 pm, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 7:14 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 25, 2:37 pm, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tell me, hotac, what is your reason for wanting France to retain
> > "French Indochina"? The colonial days are over.
>
> That is bullshit. The communist Russia said they want to help
> free the colonized countries. What happened? They were the new
> boss, and were even worse. Look at all the communist countries
> which belong to either China or Russia (Soviet Union).
hotac, communism is dead. There is no Soviet Union anymore.
> On Jul 25, 7:14 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 25, 2:37 pm, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tell me, hotac, what is your reason for wanting France to retain
> > "French Indochina"? The colonial days are over.
>
> That is bullshit. The communist Russia said they want to help
> free the colonized countries. What happened? They were the new
> boss, and were even worse. Look at all the communist countries
> which belong to either China or Russia (Soviet Union).
You're not only have a dead brain. You ARE dead.
> How well they were? The Killing Fields?
no one else.
> Now look at North Korea and Cuba, the leftover after the
> collapse of the Soviet Union.
"self-relying" method of survival.
> Mao killed 50 millions Chinese.
> Stalin killed how many Russians?
>
> http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
>
> It is worst to be part of China.
>
> Look at the way the Chinese treat Manchus, Mongols, Hui, and Tibetans.
them or just more CIA propaganda?
The Manchus controlled China from 1644 to 1911. They forced the
Chinese to shave their forehead and wear queues, the Manchu customs or
"lose their head". Who was mistreating whom?
The same with the Mongols. The Mongols controlled China 1271–1368.
They wanted to kill off all Chinese to make China a pastureland for
their animals. The Mongols hired Europeans to overseer the Chinese.
Marco Polo, his father and uncle were employed in this way.
Most Western people who had lived in Tibet will tell you "Tibet is as
close to hell as you get get on earth". The CIA played a big part for
making the Dalai Lama a god when he actually is the devil from hell.
> That is the hell on earth.
> And they never get independence again once
> they are part of China.
"Empires wax and wane, states cleave asunder and coalesce".
All empires die and new states come to life. It happened many many
times in China itself.
>
> China is the biggest threat,
> not only in Asia, but the world.
the Great Wall was built.
>
> That is why now China becomes isolated.
isolated?
rst9
Jul 25, 2012, 10:42:43 PM7/25/12
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Taiwanese are living in China, and they have completely moved ALL
their manufacturing facilities to China. Taiwan now is basically part
of China.
hotac
Jul 26, 2012, 8:18:49 AM7/26/12
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China will pay a very expensive price:
Forever alone? Pacific war games isolate China
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/07/06/12/forever-alone-pacific-war-games-isolate-china
rst9
Jul 26, 2012, 12:46:33 PM7/26/12
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On Jul 26, 5:18 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 10:39 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > hotac, communism is dead. There is no Soviet Union anymore.
> > You're not only have a dead brain. You ARE dead.
>
> On Jul 25, 10:39 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > hotac, communism is dead. There is no Soviet Union anymore.
> > You're not only have a dead brain. You ARE dead.
>
> > The killing fields of Cambodia was the work of one man, Pol Pot, and
> > no one else.
>
> > no one else.
>
> > North Korea and Cuba are still dictatorships. They have their own
> > "self-relying" method of survival.
>
> > "self-relying" method of survival.
>
> > More Western propaganda. Mao did not kill 50 million.
>
>
> > Today, China is much better economically than Vietnam.
>
>
> > How do the Chinese treat these people? Do you know anything about
> > them or just more CIA propaganda?
>
> > The Manchus controlled China from 1644 to 1911. They forced the
> > Chinese to shave their forehead and wear queues, the Manchu customs or
> > "lose their head". Who was mistreating whom?
>
> > The same with the Mongols. The Mongols controlled China 1271–1368.
> > They wanted to kill off all Chinese to make China a pastureland for
> > their animals. The Mongols hired Europeans to overseer the Chinese.
> > Marco Polo, his father and uncle were employed in this way.
>
> > Most Western people who had lived in Tibet will tell you "Tibet is as
> > close to hell as you get get on earth". The CIA played a big part for
> > making the Dalai Lama a god when he actually is the devil from hell.
>
> > them or just more CIA propaganda?
>
> > The Manchus controlled China from 1644 to 1911. They forced the
> > Chinese to shave their forehead and wear queues, the Manchu customs or
> > "lose their head". Who was mistreating whom?
>
> > The same with the Mongols. The Mongols controlled China 1271–1368.
> > They wanted to kill off all Chinese to make China a pastureland for
> > their animals. The Mongols hired Europeans to overseer the Chinese.
> > Marco Polo, his father and uncle were employed in this way.
>
> > Most Western people who had lived in Tibet will tell you "Tibet is as
> > close to hell as you get get on earth". The CIA played a big part for
> > making the Dalai Lama a god when he actually is the devil from hell.
>
> > Yes, and the U.S. is making more hell all over the world.
>
>
> > Luo Guanzhong put it very well in the 14th century when he wrote:
>
> > "Empires wax and wane, states cleave asunder and coalesce".
>
> > All empires die and new states come to life. It happened many many
> > times in China itself.
>
>
>
> > "Empires wax and wane, states cleave asunder and coalesce".
>
> > All empires die and new states come to life. It happened many many
> > times in China itself.
>
>
> > Right now, the U.S. is the biggest threat to world peace.
>
>
>
>
> > You are wrong. China has always been inward looking. That was why
> > the Great Wall was built.
>
>
> > the Great Wall was built.
>
>
> > China is the second largest economy in the world. Who says she's
> > isolated?
>
> Who is the monkey?
Right now, you and Satish are monkeys.
> > isolated?
>
> Who is the monkey?
>
> China will pay a very expensive price:
have taking a stand on those islands. Any country thinks those
islands are theirs gotta send troops to "throw those Chinese troops
out of their territory".
>
> Forever alone? Pacific war games isolate China
>
hotac, why don't you grow up. You are acting like a little kid. Your
posts have no logic. You are an easy for the CIA to brainwash.
Ben
Jul 27, 2012, 10:03:47 AM7/27/12
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The Chinese are hiding their military power and they do not want the
US to have fear of its potential. They are following the Sun Tze war
strategy, pretending to be less threatening for the next 20 years.
China had the opportunity to seize their claimed territories belong to
South Vietnam in South China Sea in 1975 after the fall of Saigon and
RVN Navy retreated from all islands, but it did not. It also had the
chance to copy the US and seize all islands in South China Sea in
2003 after the US declared it would "act alone" to invade Iraq without
UN approval. While US troops were tied up in Iraq, China could have
taken over all sea territories that it declared belong to China that
the US recognized its sovereignty through the Shanghai communique in
1972 (agreement between Nixon and Mao). To test this agreement, China
took over the Paracels and part of Spratlys and the US declared its
neutrality in the disputes between Vietnam and China.
In a memo sent to China in the 1970s, DRV (North Vietnam) premier
Pham van Dong agreed to all Chinese territory claims. While South
Vietnam protested China's territory claims, its government surrendered
to North Vietnam in 1975 and thus must comply with all DRV laws and
foreign policy, including recognition of China's territory in South
China sea.
With the premier Dong's memo and the Shanghai communique which
recognized China's claim, China can legally take over islands that
belong to Vietnam in South China sea. And they are doing just that.
They did not take over islands that Taiwan, Japan, and the Phillipines
claimed in the Pacific. Because Vietnam somehow agreed to China's
territory claim in exchange for help from China during the war
against the US and South Vietnam, it must comply with its previous
agreements with China. No free lunch.
The US in its part must honor the 1972 Shanghai communique which
recognize China's claim over Taiwan and South China sea. Once the US
and Vietnam recognized China's territory claims, the genie is out of
the bottle and nothing can be changed. When South Vietnamese
surrendered to DRV in 1975, they also accepted all previous agreements
between DRV and China and nothing can be changed. The main challenge
for China for the next decades is how to take over the territories
that the US and Vietnam agreed they belong to China.
The next opportunity for China is when the US invaded Iran or Syria.
Then China could invade Conson and Phu Quoc islands as a quid pro quo
with the US in exchange for China's not to protest US invasion.
Vietnam made a big mistake when it sought help from its 1000 year
enemy China during the Vietnam war and it is paying big now.
US to have fear of its potential. They are following the Sun Tze war
strategy, pretending to be less threatening for the next 20 years.
China had the opportunity to seize their claimed territories belong to
South Vietnam in South China Sea in 1975 after the fall of Saigon and
RVN Navy retreated from all islands, but it did not. It also had the
chance to copy the US and seize all islands in South China Sea in
2003 after the US declared it would "act alone" to invade Iraq without
UN approval. While US troops were tied up in Iraq, China could have
taken over all sea territories that it declared belong to China that
the US recognized its sovereignty through the Shanghai communique in
1972 (agreement between Nixon and Mao). To test this agreement, China
took over the Paracels and part of Spratlys and the US declared its
neutrality in the disputes between Vietnam and China.
In a memo sent to China in the 1970s, DRV (North Vietnam) premier
Pham van Dong agreed to all Chinese territory claims. While South
Vietnam protested China's territory claims, its government surrendered
to North Vietnam in 1975 and thus must comply with all DRV laws and
foreign policy, including recognition of China's territory in South
China sea.
With the premier Dong's memo and the Shanghai communique which
recognized China's claim, China can legally take over islands that
belong to Vietnam in South China sea. And they are doing just that.
They did not take over islands that Taiwan, Japan, and the Phillipines
claimed in the Pacific. Because Vietnam somehow agreed to China's
territory claim in exchange for help from China during the war
against the US and South Vietnam, it must comply with its previous
agreements with China. No free lunch.
The US in its part must honor the 1972 Shanghai communique which
recognize China's claim over Taiwan and South China sea. Once the US
and Vietnam recognized China's territory claims, the genie is out of
the bottle and nothing can be changed. When South Vietnamese
surrendered to DRV in 1975, they also accepted all previous agreements
between DRV and China and nothing can be changed. The main challenge
for China for the next decades is how to take over the territories
that the US and Vietnam agreed they belong to China.
The next opportunity for China is when the US invaded Iran or Syria.
Then China could invade Conson and Phu Quoc islands as a quid pro quo
with the US in exchange for China's not to protest US invasion.
Vietnam made a big mistake when it sought help from its 1000 year
enemy China during the Vietnam war and it is paying big now.
Satish
Jul 27, 2012, 4:52:40 PM7/27/12
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attempt to acquire more land for the German people to populate. The
CCP dictatorship's brutal suppression of the Tibetans and the Uighyurs
is an adaptation of Hitler's idea of Lebensraum. So is its aggressive
but spurious claims on the South China Sea and the East China Sea.
The Pacific nations are all aware that imperialist China has come to
believe that "Today, it's all about military power, the only thing
counts." In 1979, the CCP dictatorship under Deng Xiaoping's
helmsmanship caused the death of nearly 150,000 soldiers just to
"teach Vietnam a lesson". It is another matter that a significant
proportion of the dead were Chinese soldiers. But that mattered very
little to lull the blood-lust of the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.
As far as the Pacific countries (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, the
Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New
Zealand etc.) are concerned, it is the CCP dictatorship in Beijing
that is the greatest menace to world peace. In fact, China's small
neighbors thank USA for the fact that China hasn't dared since 1979
to launch a bloody invasion to teach any of its small neighbors a
lesson. As far as the Pacific nations are concerned, it is the USA
that is providing a shield against the blood lust of the CCP
dictatorship.
rst0
Jul 27, 2012, 10:48:57 PM7/27/12
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More crazy twisted words from a crazy sadistic warp-minded lunatic.
Satish should be locked up in a insane asylum.
Satish should be locked up in a insane asylum.
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