China's new stealth fighter may use US technology - in all probability the Chinese gleaned some of their technological know-how from an American F-117 Nighthawk that was shot down over Serbia in 1999.
rst0wxyz
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_eu/eu_us_stealth_technology_china
SLOBODAN LEKIC and DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press – 1 hr 40 mins
ago
BRUSSELS – Chinese officials recently unveiled a new, high-tech
stealth fighter that could pose a significant threat to American air
superiority — and some of its technology, it turns out, may well have
come from the U.S. itself.
Balkan military officials and other experts have told The Associated
Press that in all probability the Chinese gleaned some of their
technological know-how from an American F-117 Nighthawk that was shot
down over Serbia in 1999.
Nighthawks were the world's first stealth fighters, planes that were
very hard for radar to detect. But on March 27, 1999, during NATO's
aerial bombing of Serbia in the Kosovo war, a Serbian anti-aircraft
missile shot one of the Nighthawks down. The pilot ejected and was
rescued.
It was the first time one of the much-touted "invisible" fighters had
ever been hit. The Pentagon believed a combination of clever tactics
and sheer luck had allowed a Soviet-built SA-3 missile to bring down
the jet.
The wreckage was strewn over a wide area of flat farmlands, and
civilians collected the parts — some the size of small cars — as
souvenirs.
"At the time, our intelligence reports told of Chinese agents
crisscrossing the region where the F-117 disintegrated, buying up
parts of the plane from local farmers," says Adm. Davor Domazet-Loso,
Croatia's military chief of staff during the Kosovo war.
"We believe the Chinese used those materials to gain an insight into
secret stealth technologies ... and to reverse-engineer them," Domazet-
Loso said in a telephone interview.
A senior Serbian military official confirmed that pieces of the
wreckage were removed by souvenir collectors, and that some ended up
"in the hands of foreign military attaches."
Efforts to get comment from China's defense ministry and the Pentagon
were unsuccessful.
China's multi-role stealth fighter — known as the Chengdu J-20 — made
its inaugural flight Jan. 11, revealing dramatic progress in the
country's efforts to develop cutting-edge military technologies.
Although the twin-engine J-20 is at least eight or nine years from
entering air force inventory, it could become a rival to America's top-
of-the-line F-22 Raptor, the successor to the Nighthawk and the only
stealth fighter currently in service.
China rolled out the J-20 just days before a visit to Beijing by U.S.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates, leading some analysts to speculate
that the timing was intended to demonstrate the growing might of
China's armed forces.
Despite Chinese President Hu Jintao's high-profile visit to the United
States this week, many in Washington see China as an economic threat
to the U.S. and worry as well about Beijing's military might.
Parts of the downed F-117 wreckage — such as the left wing with US Air
Force insignia, the cockpit canopy, ejection seat, pilot's helmet and
radio — are exhibited at Belgrade's aviation museum.
"I don't know what happened to the rest of the plane," said Zoran
Milicevic, deputy director of the museum. "A lot of delegations
visited us in the past, including the Chinese, Russians and
Americans ... but no one showed any interest in taking any part of the
jet."
Zoran Kusovac, a Rome-based military consultant, said the regime of
former Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic routinely shared captured
Western equipment with its Chinese and Russian allies.
"The destroyed F-117 topped that wish-list for both the Russians and
Chinese," Kusovac said.
Russia's Sukhoi T-50 prototype stealth fighter made its maiden flight
last year and is due to enter service in about four years. It is
likely that the Russians also gleaned knowledge of stealth technology
from the downed Nighthawk.
The F-117, developed in great secrecy in the 1970s, began service in
1983.
While not completely invisible to radar, its shape and radar-absorbent
coating made detection extremely difficult. The radar cross-section
was further reduced because the wings' leading and trailing edges were
composed of nonmetallic honeycomb structures that do not reflect radar
rays.
Kusovac said insight into this critical technology, and particularly
the plane's secret radiation-absorbent exterior coating, would have
significantly enhanced China's stealth know-how.
Alexander Huang of Taipei's Tamkang University said the J-20
represented a major step forward for China. He described Domazet-
Loso's claim as "a logical assessment."
"There is no other stronger source for the origin of the J-20's
stealthy technology," said Huang, an expert on China's air force. "The
argument the Croatian chief-of-staff makes is legitimate and cannot be
ruled out."
The Chinese are well-known perpetrators of industrial espionage in
Western Europe and the United States, where the administration has
also been increasingly aggressive in prosecuting cases of Chinese
espionage.
Western diplomats have said China maintained an intelligence post in
its Belgrade embassy during the Kosovo war. The building was
mistakenly struck by U.S. bombers that May, killing three people
inside.
"What that means is that the Serbs and Chinese would have been sharing
their intelligence," said Alexander Neill, head of the Asia security
program at the Royal United Services Institute, a defense think tank
in London. "It's very likely that they shared the technology they
recovered from the F-117, and it's very plausible that elements of the
F-117 got to China."
___
Stojanovic reported from Belgrade. Associated Press reporters Snjezana
Vukic in Zagreb, and Peter Enav in Taipei contributed to this report.
rst0wxyz
> China's new stealth fighter may use US technologyhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_eu/eu_us_stealth_technol...
So the Chinese version is just a year behind the Russian's. Most
likely, the Chinese will put their J-20 into service faster than the
Russians.
The Russians will more likely run into fund shortages and delay
deployment by 4 to 5 years.
Demorising
> China's new stealth fighter may use US technologyhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_eu/eu_us_stealth_technol...
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/msg/2d224d6d95c7e7a6
rst0wxyz
It won't be a sincere flattery when they start using our thechology
against us.
Basement Bandy
>
> > Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>
> against us.
Well who is "us"? You could be living in India, Canada, Europe,
Brazil or Australia.
rst0wxyz
"us" means exactly that, US.
The PHANTOM
Or from the Clinton Administration.
Anti-DabianchenVirus
The Chinese embassy was "accidentally" bombed in May 7th, 1999.
Draw your own conclusions.
On Jan 23, 5:11 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> China's newstealthfightermay use US technologyhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_eu/eu_us_stealth_technol...
>
> SLOBODAN LEKIC and DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press – 1 hr 40 mins
> ago
>
> BRUSSELS – Chinese officials recently unveiled a new, high-techstealthfighterthat could pose a significant threat to American air
> superiority — and some of its technology, it turns out, may well have
> come from the U.S. itself.
>
> Balkan military officials and other experts have told The Associated
> Press that in all probability the Chinese gleaned some of their
> technological know-how from an American F-117 Nighthawk that wasshotdownover Serbia in 1999.
>
> Nighthawks were the world's firststealthfighters, planes that were
> very hard for radar to detect. But on March 27, 1999, during NATO's
> aerial bombing of Serbia in the Kosovo war, a Serbian anti-aircraft
> missileshotone of the Nighthawksdown. The pilot ejected and was
> rescued.
>
> It was the first time one of the much-touted "invisible" fighters had
> ever been hit. The Pentagon believed a combination of clever tactics
> and sheer luck had allowed a Soviet-built SA-3 missile to bringdown
> the jet.
>
> The wreckage was strewn over a wide area of flat farmlands, and
> civilians collected the parts — some the size of small cars — as
> souvenirs.
>
> "At the time, our intelligence reports told of Chinese agents
> crisscrossing the region where the F-117 disintegrated, buying up
> parts of the plane from local farmers," says Adm. Davor Domazet-Loso,
> Croatia's military chief of staff during the Kosovo war.
>
> "We believe the Chinese used those materials to gain an insight into
> secretstealthtechnologies ... and to reverse-engineer them," Domazet-
> Loso said in a telephone interview.
>
> A senior Serbian military official confirmed that pieces of the
> wreckage were removed by souvenir collectors, and that some ended up
> "in the hands of foreign military attaches."
>
> Efforts to get comment from China's defense ministry and the Pentagon
> were unsuccessful.
> China's multi-rolestealthfighter— known as the Chengdu J-20 — made
> its inaugural flight Jan. 11, revealing dramatic progress in the
> country's efforts to develop cutting-edge military technologies.
>
> Although the twin-engine J-20 is at least eight or nine years from
> entering air force inventory, it could become a rival to America's top-
> of-the-line F-22 Raptor, the successor to the Nighthawk and the onlystealthfightercurrently in service.
>
> China rolled out the J-20 just days before a visit to Beijing by U.S.
> Defense Secretary Robert Gates, leading some analysts to speculate
> that the timing was intended to demonstrate the growing might of
> China's armed forces.
>
> Despite Chinese President Hu Jintao's high-profile visit to the United
> States this week, many in Washington see China as an economic threat
> to the U.S. and worry as well about Beijing's military might.
>
> Parts of the downed F-117 wreckage — such as the left wing with US Air
> Force insignia, the cockpit canopy, ejection seat, pilot's helmet and
> radio — are exhibited at Belgrade's aviation museum.
>
> "I don't know what happened to the rest of the plane," said Zoran
> Milicevic, deputy director of the museum. "A lot of delegations
> visited us in the past, including the Chinese, Russians and
> Americans ... but no one showed any interest in taking any part of the
> jet."
>
> Zoran Kusovac, a Rome-based military consultant, said the regime of
> former Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic routinely shared captured
> Western equipment with its Chinese and Russian allies.
>
> "The destroyed F-117 topped that wish-list for both the Russians and
> Chinese," Kusovac said.
> Russia's Sukhoi T-50 prototypestealthfightermade its maiden flight
Demorising
wrote:
> The American stealth fighter was shot down in March 27th,1999.
>
> The Chinese embassy was "accidentally" bombed in May 7th, 1999.
>
> Draw your own conclusions.
China had entered the war...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/oct/17/balkans
'Nato deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the
war in Kosovo after discovering it was being used to transmit Yugoslav
army communications. According to senior military and intelligence
sources in Europe and the US the Chinese embassy was removed from a
prohibited targets list after Nato electronic intelligence (Elint)
detected it sending army signals to Milosevic's forces...The Chinese
may have calculated that Nato would not dare strike its embassy, but
the five-storey building was emptied every night of personnel. Only
three people died in the attack, two of whom were, reportedly, not
journalists - the official Chinese version - but intelligence
officers.'
Anti-DabianchenVirus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade
So, you are claiming that Bill Clinton and the American press lied to
the whole world about the incident.