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Aug 31, 2012, 2:14:34 PM8/31/12
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Ex-Navy SEAL who wrote Bin Laden book gets warning from Pentagon
Ex-Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette, who wrote 'No Easy Day' about the Bin
Laden raid, violated an agreement not to reveal classified
information, the Pentagon says.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bin-laden-book-20120831,0,6716930.story?track=lat-email-topofthetimes
Bissonnette did not submit his manuscript for review by the Pentagon
as he was required to do under an agreement he signed in 2007, an
official says. (AP Photo/Dutton / August 30, 2012)
By David S. Cloud, Los Angeles Times
August 31, 2012
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon formally warned a former Navy SEAL who has
written a first-person account of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden
last year, saying he has violated his signed agreement not to divulge
classified information, and it threatened him with stiff legal action.
"In the judgment of the Department of Defense, you are in material
breach and violation of the non-disclosure agreements you signed,"
Pentagon General Counsel Jeh Johnson said Thursday in a letter
addressed to Mark Owen, the pen name of Matt Bissonnette.
Johnson did not specify what in Bissonnette's forthcoming book, "No
Easy Day," constitutes improperly disclosed classified information.
But he said military lawyers are considering "all legal remedies
available to us."
PHOTOS: The death of Osama bin Laden
Officials said that could include a lawsuit aimed at claiming profit
from the book, which is being published by Dutton, part of Penguin
Group. Due to be released next week, "No Easy Day" is already on
bestseller lists because of heavy advance sales.
The letter is the strongest signal yet that the Obama administration,
which has come under fire for alleged leaks of national security
information, is prepared to crack down on an unauthorized release of
classified information, even by a former member of an elite military
unit lionized by the public.
Bissonnette did not submit his manuscript for review by the Pentagon
as he was required to do under a nondisclosure agreement he signed in
2007, Johnson wrote in the letter. Johnson's letter cites a provision
in the agreement that requires Bissonnette to seek permission from the
Defense Department before publishing a manuscript containing possibly
classified information. Any profit from a book containing classified
information would be "assigned to the U.S. government," the agreement
says.
Bissonnette, 36, who has been awarded five bronze stars, left the Navy
in April. Before he did so, he signed another legal agreement that
"acknowledged your understanding" of the requirement to seek Pentagon
approval before publishing a book, Johnson's letter states.
In April, a federal judge in Alexandria, Va., ruled that a former CIA
case officer had to forfeit any earnings from a book he wrote that was
published without CIA permission. The former officer, writing under
the pseudonym Ishmael Jones, had submitted "The Human Factor: Inside
the CIA's Dysfunctional Intelligence Culture" to be reviewed for
classified information, but it went on sale before the review was
complete.
"No Easy Day" is the first account by a member of SEAL Team Six, which
carried out the stealthy nighttime assault on Bin Laden's compound in
Abbottabad, Pakistan, in May 2011. The publisher provided a copy to
The Times.
In an author's note, Bissonnette wrote that "all of the material
contained within this book is derived from unclassified publications
and sources," and a list of sources is printed at the end of the
volume. He also says he hired a former special operations attorney to
review the text for classified information.
"It is important to me that no classified information is released" so
that the book "cannot be used by sophisticated enemies as a source of
sensitive information to compromise or harm the United States," he
wrote.
But the book recounts Bissonnette's role in a highly classified
operation by SEAL snipers who killed three pirates and rescued the
captain of the Maersk Alabama, a cargo ship hijacked off Somalia in
April 2009.
He also describes operations with Delta Force, the Army's most elite
commando unit. Its existence, though well known, is classified. He
also gives details about Joint Special Operations Command's presence
in Afghanistan, another classified matter.
In his account of the Bin Laden raid, Bissonnette and his coauthor,
Kevin Maurer, at times provide specific descriptions of tactics,
planning and meetings that appear to involve sensitive information.
PHOTOS: The death of Osama bin Laden
He describes how U.S. surveillance drones kept watch over Bin Laden's
compound, and he recounts the time a Pakistani army helicopter flew
overhead as a man believed to be Bin Laden was walking around the
compound. Bissonnette and a CIA intelligence analyst observed from the
drone video that the man did not look up or seem alarmed about the
helicopter, leading them to conclude that the SEAL team could fly to
the hide-out by helicopter without immediately alerting people inside.
He also writes that if the SEALs were captured by Pakistani military
or police, they had been instructed to say they were on a secret
mission to find a downed drone. But the Navy commandos also had
authority to open fire on Pakistani troops if necessary, he says.
"The president had already given us the green light to protect
ourselves, even if we had to engage the Pakistani military," he
writes.
david...@latimes.com
Ex-Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette, who wrote 'No Easy Day' about the Bin
Laden raid, violated an agreement not to reveal classified
information, the Pentagon says.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bin-laden-book-20120831,0,6716930.story?track=lat-email-topofthetimes
Bissonnette did not submit his manuscript for review by the Pentagon
as he was required to do under an agreement he signed in 2007, an
official says. (AP Photo/Dutton / August 30, 2012)
By David S. Cloud, Los Angeles Times
August 31, 2012
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon formally warned a former Navy SEAL who has
written a first-person account of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden
last year, saying he has violated his signed agreement not to divulge
classified information, and it threatened him with stiff legal action.
"In the judgment of the Department of Defense, you are in material
breach and violation of the non-disclosure agreements you signed,"
Pentagon General Counsel Jeh Johnson said Thursday in a letter
addressed to Mark Owen, the pen name of Matt Bissonnette.
Johnson did not specify what in Bissonnette's forthcoming book, "No
Easy Day," constitutes improperly disclosed classified information.
But he said military lawyers are considering "all legal remedies
available to us."
PHOTOS: The death of Osama bin Laden
Officials said that could include a lawsuit aimed at claiming profit
from the book, which is being published by Dutton, part of Penguin
Group. Due to be released next week, "No Easy Day" is already on
bestseller lists because of heavy advance sales.
The letter is the strongest signal yet that the Obama administration,
which has come under fire for alleged leaks of national security
information, is prepared to crack down on an unauthorized release of
classified information, even by a former member of an elite military
unit lionized by the public.
Bissonnette did not submit his manuscript for review by the Pentagon
as he was required to do under a nondisclosure agreement he signed in
2007, Johnson wrote in the letter. Johnson's letter cites a provision
in the agreement that requires Bissonnette to seek permission from the
Defense Department before publishing a manuscript containing possibly
classified information. Any profit from a book containing classified
information would be "assigned to the U.S. government," the agreement
says.
Bissonnette, 36, who has been awarded five bronze stars, left the Navy
in April. Before he did so, he signed another legal agreement that
"acknowledged your understanding" of the requirement to seek Pentagon
approval before publishing a book, Johnson's letter states.
In April, a federal judge in Alexandria, Va., ruled that a former CIA
case officer had to forfeit any earnings from a book he wrote that was
published without CIA permission. The former officer, writing under
the pseudonym Ishmael Jones, had submitted "The Human Factor: Inside
the CIA's Dysfunctional Intelligence Culture" to be reviewed for
classified information, but it went on sale before the review was
complete.
"No Easy Day" is the first account by a member of SEAL Team Six, which
carried out the stealthy nighttime assault on Bin Laden's compound in
Abbottabad, Pakistan, in May 2011. The publisher provided a copy to
The Times.
In an author's note, Bissonnette wrote that "all of the material
contained within this book is derived from unclassified publications
and sources," and a list of sources is printed at the end of the
volume. He also says he hired a former special operations attorney to
review the text for classified information.
"It is important to me that no classified information is released" so
that the book "cannot be used by sophisticated enemies as a source of
sensitive information to compromise or harm the United States," he
wrote.
But the book recounts Bissonnette's role in a highly classified
operation by SEAL snipers who killed three pirates and rescued the
captain of the Maersk Alabama, a cargo ship hijacked off Somalia in
April 2009.
He also describes operations with Delta Force, the Army's most elite
commando unit. Its existence, though well known, is classified. He
also gives details about Joint Special Operations Command's presence
in Afghanistan, another classified matter.
In his account of the Bin Laden raid, Bissonnette and his coauthor,
Kevin Maurer, at times provide specific descriptions of tactics,
planning and meetings that appear to involve sensitive information.
PHOTOS: The death of Osama bin Laden
He describes how U.S. surveillance drones kept watch over Bin Laden's
compound, and he recounts the time a Pakistani army helicopter flew
overhead as a man believed to be Bin Laden was walking around the
compound. Bissonnette and a CIA intelligence analyst observed from the
drone video that the man did not look up or seem alarmed about the
helicopter, leading them to conclude that the SEAL team could fly to
the hide-out by helicopter without immediately alerting people inside.
He also writes that if the SEALs were captured by Pakistani military
or police, they had been instructed to say they were on a secret
mission to find a downed drone. But the Navy commandos also had
authority to open fire on Pakistani troops if necessary, he says.
"The president had already given us the green light to protect
ourselves, even if we had to engage the Pakistani military," he
writes.
david...@latimes.com
bmo...@nyx.net
Aug 31, 2012, 4:29:53 PM8/31/12
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On Aug 31, 11:14 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ex-Navy SEAL who wrote Bin Laden book gets warning from Pentagon
> Ex-Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette, who wrote 'No Easy Day' about the Bin
> Laden raid, violated an agreement not to reveal classified
> information, the Pentagon says.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bin-laden-book-20...
> Ex-Navy SEAL who wrote Bin Laden book gets warning from Pentagon
> Ex-Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette, who wrote 'No Easy Day' about the Bin
> Laden raid, violated an agreement not to reveal classified
Wrong again. Some things should be classified, and this is one of
them.
Maybe you should protest the evil US government by revealing some of
the (now obsolete) classified information you had access to. Rather
than just whine, a man would do something meaningful.
Because, as we all know, the US is just terrible. The cool dudes
running the Chinese government would never do anything like that. They
would just "disappear" the person.
rst9
Aug 31, 2012, 5:11:39 PM8/31/12
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> Some things should be classified,
what? the gruesome way he died? that we killed an unarmed man? that
we caught Osama bin Laden completely by surprise? ...
> and this is one of them.
so nobody can find it. So, the only differences are;
1: The glorified way we (the government) depicted as
the media was given vs this man's account.
2: bin Laden was completely unarmed in both accounts.
3: bin Laden was peering out a partially closed door
when he was shot in the head, not at the other side
of the bedroom as the government version said.
From both versions, nothing is important enough to be classified.
>
> Maybe you should protest the evil US government by revealing
> some of the (now obsolete) classified information you had
> access to.
As we used to say, we were told not to talk about it, but you can read
all about in Aviation Week Magazine.
> Rather
> than just whine,
Me? whine? look who's talking!!! You're the biggest whiner in this
newsgroup, you, Peter the Dutch idiot, and Satish the miserable life
basher.
> a man would do something meaningful.
and philosophize what life was, is and will be or should be about. I
am retired so I have lots of time to think, to feel, to see, to hear,
to smell, to sense and to philosophize.
And it's very meaningful to me. I might save the world yet!!! Who
knows!!!
>
> Because, as we all know,
cop of the world.
> the US is just terrible. The cool dudes
> running the Chinese government would never do anything
> like that. They would just "disappear" the person.
until a writer paid a prisoner $37,000 for him to tell where he and
his crime partner killed those girls 20 years ago. His partner who
was released many years ago killed himself immediately.
bmo...@nyx.net
Aug 31, 2012, 5:44:45 PM8/31/12
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really are terrible at rational discussion. I really get the feeling I
am dealing with a nutjob.
> > Some things should be classified,
>
> Yes, but the killing of Osama bin Laden "classified"? Classified as
> what? the gruesome way he died? that we killed an unarmed man? that
> we caught Osama bin Laden completely by surprise? ...
>
> > and this is one of them.
>
> We all know he died, and we dumped his body into a big body of water
> so nobody can find it. So, the only differences are;
>
> 1: The glorified way we (the government) depicted as
> the media was given vs this man's account.
>
> 2: bin Laden was completely unarmed in both accounts.
>
> 3: bin Laden was peering out a partially closed door
> when he was shot in the head, not at the other side
> of the bedroom as the government version said.
>
> From both versions, nothing is important enough to be classified.
> > Maybe you should protest the evil US government by revealing
> > some of the (now obsolete) classified information you had
> > access to.
>
> Nothing I have written were ever classified.
>
> As we used to say, we were told not to talk about it, but you can read
> all about in Aviation Week Magazine.
>
> > Rather
> > than just whine,
>
> Me? whine? look who's talking!!! You're the biggest whiner in this
> newsgroup, you, Peter the Dutch idiot, and Satish the miserable life
> basher.
history.
> > a man would do something meaningful.
>
> I am doing something meaningful. I am sitting in front of my computer
> and philosophize what life was, is and will be or should be about. I
> am retired so I have lots of time to think, to feel, to see, to hear,
> to smell, to sense and to philosophize.
>
> And it's very meaningful to me. I might save the world yet!!! Who
> knows!!!
> > Because, as we all know,
>
> Satish doesn't know. Satish thinks the U.S. is infallible, the super
> cop of the world.
that he believes that?
> > the US is just terrible. The cool dudes
> > running the Chinese government would never do anything
> > like that. They would just "disappear" the person.
>
> Have you read the "Linden well" bones? No one knew anything about it
> until a writer paid a prisoner $37,000 for him to tell where he and
> his crime partner killed those girls 20 years ago. His partner who
Your entire response is a non sequitur.
rst9
Aug 31, 2012, 6:41:29 PM8/31/12
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You are as bad a liar as Peter the Dutch idiot.
Peter, you are the biggest propaganda disseminator in
this newsgroup. The CIA transformed a devil into a living God, and
you are the biggest disseminator of this evil vile snake's image.
Peter, you are the biggest propaganda disseminator in
this newsgroup. The CIA transformed a devil into a living God, and
you are the biggest disseminator of this evil vile snake's image.
Satish
Sep 1, 2012, 10:29:18 AM9/1/12
to
> I am doing something meaningful. I am sitting in front of my computer
> andphilosophizewhat life was, is and will be or should be about. I
> am retired so I have lots of time to think, to feel, to see, to hear,
> to smell, to sense and tophilosophize.
>
Philosophizing and rationalizing your 50 cents per post income from
> to smell, to sense and tophilosophize.
>
the CCP dictatorship in Beijing isn't doing much to enhance the
quality of your life as a 74-year old Chinese-American pensioner. It
is merely making you a detestable Quisling.
Tea, tai chi and majhong - that's what you need for peace in your
life.
74-year old rst0/rst9 was born in China but has lived in USA since
1949. An US citizen as he is, 74-year old rst0/rst9 is a schizophrenic
traitor.
He uses "we" to mean USA when he is into US-bashing. But he uses "we"
to mean the Beijing regime when he mouths support for the CCP
dictatorship's imperialist agenda.
Here's rst0's sorry history of double dealing and outright treason:
rst0 was born in a village in China. He came to USA as a 11-year old
in 1949 to be united with his purported biological father. He obtained
a secret clearance from US government to work on advanced weapons
systems at Lockheed. It is clear that rst0 had thought it wise not to
reveal that his heart was with the bandit regime in Beijing when he
applied for a secret clearance and worked for a defence contractor
like Lockheed.
rst0 has retired and continues to live with his gf in USA. He lives
off pensions from Lockheed and from US social security. But he has
chosen to to supplement his US pensions with an allowance of 50 cents/
post on the newsgroup from the CCP dictatorship in China.
But, of course, rst0 is well knows which side of the toast is
buttered. For all his rantings about "evil USA" and "virtuous CCP-
dictatorship in China", he has stayed put in USA. That's the reason
that he doesn't go back to the land of his heart and birth. He
continues to live in USA even as he insists, like a Quisling, on being
a running dog of CCP imperialism working 24/7 on the internet to earn
his bone of 50 cents/page from the CCP regime.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
The 50 Cent Party are Internet commentators (网络评论员, 網絡評論員, wǎnglù
pínglùn yuán) hired by the government of the People's Republic of
China (both local and central) or the Communist Party to post comments
favorable towards party policies in an attempt to shape and sway
public opinion on various Internet message boards. The commentators
are said to be paid for every post that either steers a discussion
away from anti-party or sensitive content on domestic websites,
bulletin board systems, and chatrooms, or that advances the Communist
party line.
*************************
74-year old rst0 will do himself a big favor if he enrolls himself in
some adult education school. Otherwise patriotically challenged rst0
will continue to make a spectacle of himself by revealing his
appalling ignorance in everything from history to English. And if rstx
can't get himself to do that, he should stop bilking USA and go back
to where his heart really resides, namely, the village of his birth in
China under CCP-dictatorship. That would be the honest thing to do. Of
course, it is another matter that his gf will refuse to follow rst0 to
CCP-land where any deviation of his newsgroup posts from the official
CCP-line will right away lead him to re-education through labor ( 勞動教
養 ).
Chinese-Americans are by and large a patriotic lot. But there are a
few bad apples who go proactive with their bid to serve the colonial
agenda of CCP-dictatorship. These bad apples had often worked with
defense contractors like Lockheed, Boeing etc. but when opportunity
came they betrayed USA by selling company and US secrets to the CCP-
dictatorship. When caught with their pants down, these bad apples
inevitably landed in jail.
rst0, USA respects your freedom of speech. Unlike the CCP-dictatorship
in China, the US government is not going to monitor your posts on the
newsgroup and go after you for your rantings on the internet. You can
bark with impunity without any fear of reprisal by the US government.
But you will make a grave mistake if you ever try to bite the hand
that feeds you by selling Lockheed and US secrets to the CCP-
dictatorship. You will be eventually caught and spend the rest of your
golden years inside jail cells.
Try to be like the normal Chinese-Americans. Ambassador Gary Locke is
a good role model. He has won nothing but admiration from the
ordinary Chinese under CCP-dictatorship.He is far more respected by
the ordinary folks in China than the stinking fat cats in the party
politburo.
As a retired 74-year old, you have ample time in your hand. Your idle
brain has become the devil's workshop. You are 24/7 on the internet
pushing the evil agenda of the CCP-dictatorship in China. But if you
have any brain, you will bark but not bite to avoid ending up in jail
like a few Chinese Americans have for selling US to the CCP-
dictatorship in China for pecuniary gains.
China-born aerospace engineer Dogfang Greg Chung is the same age as 74-
year old rstx. rstx would be wise to steer himself away from the path
of treason that has earned the 74-year old Dongfan Gref Chung a 15
year prison sentence. Here's Dogfang Greg Chung's shameful story:
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http://articles.latimes.com/print/2010/feb/09/local/la-me-chinese-spy9-2010feb09
9-2-2010
Chinese-born engineer gets 15 years in spying for China
Dongfan 'Greg' Chung, who worked with Boeing and Rockwell
International, was accused of providing information on the space
shuttle and Delta IV rocket.
By Patrick J. McDonnell
A Chinese-born aerospace engineer who had access to sensitive material
while working with a pair of major defense contractors in Southern
California was sentenced Monday to more than 15 years in prison for
acquiring secret space shuttle data and other information for China.
U.S. District Judge Cormac J. Carney in Santa Ana imposed a 188-month
prison term on Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 73, a naturalized U.S. citizen
who lives in Orange.
Carney declared that he could not "put a price tag" on national
security and sought to send a signal to China to "stop sending your
spies here," according to the U.S. attorney's office.
Chung, who worked at Boeing's Huntington Beach plant, denied being a
spy and said he was gathering documents for a book, not for espionage.
His attorneys argued that much of the material was already available
on the public record.
At his sentencing, Chung professed his love for the United States,
even as prosecutors depicted him as a spy who would compromise U.S.
national security.
"Giving China advanced rocket technology is not in the United States'
national interest," said Assistant U.S. Atty. Greg Staples. "There is
a voracious appetite for U.S. technology in China."
Whether loyalty to his homeland or financial gain was Chung's motive
remained unclear. The case is one of a number of prosecutions that
have shed light on alleged Chinese efforts to gain access to U.S.
technology and research through espionage.
Chung was the first suspect tried with attempting to help a foreign
nation under the terms of the 1996 Economic Espionage Act, passed to
help prevent pilfering of sensitive economic information. Chung chose
to have the case heard by the judge rather than a jury.
Chung was convicted last year on charges of economic espionage and
acting as an agent for more than three decades while employed by
Rockwell International and Boeing Co.
When Chung was convicted, Carney said the case revealed Chung's
"secret life" as a "spy" for China. The case against him arose from an
investigation into another engineer, Chi Mak, who worked in the United
States and obtained sensitive military information for China. Mak and
several relatives were convicted of providing defense information to
China, the U.S. attorney's office said. Carney sentenced Mak to more
than 24 years in prison in 2008.
Federal authorities said Chung stole restricted technology and trade
secrets, including data related to the space shuttle and the Delta IV
rocket.
"This case demonstrates our resolve to protect the secrets that help
protect the United States, as well as the important technology
advancements developed by scientists working for companies that
provide crucial support to our national security programs," acting
U.S. Atty. George S. Cardona said Monday in a statement.
Chung held a "secret" security clearance when he worked at Rockwell
and Boeing on the space shuttle program, authorities said. He retired
in 2002 but the next year returned to Boeing as a contractor, a
position he held until September 2006, the U.S. attorney's office
said.
Between 1985 and 2003, Chung made trips to China to deliver lectures
on technology involving the space shuttle and other programs, the
government said. During those trips, Chung met with Chinese government
officials, including military agents, U.S. authorities said.
http://articles.latimes.com/print/2010/feb/09/local/la-me-chinese-spy9-2010feb09
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rst9
Sep 1, 2012, 11:01:52 AM9/1/12
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Satish Miserable life - Satish is a dark-skinned Indian son-of-a-
bitch with immoral, unethical, crazy twisted warp mind, and a lunatic
liar. He's a psychopath and should be locked up in an insane asylum.
The falun gong has camped out at the doorstep of the Chinese
Consulate building for decades, and became a joke to all people and
the neighborhood. People have regarded them as a nuisance for
decades.
bitch with immoral, unethical, crazy twisted warp mind, and a lunatic
liar. He's a psychopath and should be locked up in an insane asylum.
The falun gong has camped out at the doorstep of the Chinese
Consulate building for decades, and became a joke to all people and
the neighborhood. People have regarded them as a nuisance for
decades.
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