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Ben  
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 More options Jul 27 2012, 10:03 am
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam, soc.culture.vietnamese, soc.culture.china, soc.culture.singapore
From: Ben <pb5...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:03:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 27 2012 10:03 am
Subject: THE MONKEY IS NOT THE USA
The Chinese are hiding their military power and they do not want the
US to have fear of its potential. They are following  the Sun Tze war
strategy, pretending to be less threatening for the next 20 years.
China had the opportunity to seize their claimed territories belong to
South Vietnam in South China Sea in 1975 after the fall of Saigon and
RVN Navy retreated  from all islands, but it did not. It also had the
chance to copy  the US and seize all islands in South China Sea in
2003 after the US declared it would "act alone" to invade Iraq without
UN approval. While US troops were tied up in Iraq, China could have
taken over all sea territories that it declared belong to China that
the US recognized its sovereignty through the Shanghai communique in
1972 (agreement between Nixon and Mao).  To test this agreement, China
took over the Paracels and part of Spratlys and the US declared its
neutrality in the disputes between Vietnam and China.
In a  memo sent to China in the 1970s, DRV (North Vietnam) premier
Pham van Dong agreed to all Chinese territory claims. While South
Vietnam protested China's territory claims, its government surrendered
to North Vietnam in 1975 and thus must comply with all DRV laws and
foreign policy, including recognition of China's territory in South
China sea.
With the premier Dong's memo and the Shanghai communique which
recognized China's claim, China can legally take over islands that
belong to Vietnam in South China sea. And they are doing just that.
They did not take over islands that Taiwan, Japan, and the Phillipines
claimed in the Pacific.  Because Vietnam somehow agreed to China's
territory claim in exchange for  help from China during the war
against the US and South Vietnam, it must comply with its previous
agreements with China. No free lunch.
The US in its part must honor the 1972 Shanghai communique which
recognize China's claim over Taiwan and South China sea.  Once the US
and Vietnam recognized China's territory claims, the genie is out of
the bottle and nothing can be changed. When South Vietnamese
surrendered to DRV in 1975, they also accepted all previous agreements
between DRV and China and nothing can be changed.  The main challenge
for China for the next decades is how to take over the territories
that the US and Vietnam agreed they belong to China.
The next opportunity for China is when the US invaded Iran or Syria.
Then China could invade Conson and Phu Quoc islands as a quid pro quo
with the US in exchange for China's not to protest US invasion.
Vietnam made a big mistake when it sought help from its 1000 year
enemy China during the Vietnam war and it is paying big now.

On Jul 25, 9:53 am, john nguyen <johnnguyen...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Satish  
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 More options Jul 27 2012, 4:52 pm
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam, soc.culture.vietnamese, soc.culture.china, soc.culture.malaysia, soc.culture.singapore
From: Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 27 2012 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: THE MONKEY IS NOT THE USA
On Jul 27, 7:03 am, Ben <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:

The German invasion of Russia in 1941 was the first step of Hitler's
attempt to acquire more land for the German people to populate. The
CCP dictatorship's brutal suppression of the Tibetans and the Uighyurs
is an adaptation of Hitler's idea of Lebensraum. So is its aggressive
but spurious claims on the South China Sea and the East China Sea.

The Pacific nations are all aware that imperialist China has come to
believe that "Today, it's all about military power, the only thing
counts."  In 1979, the CCP dictatorship under Deng Xiaoping's
helmsmanship caused the death of nearly 150,000 soldiers just to
"teach Vietnam a lesson". It is another matter that a significant
proportion of the dead were Chinese soldiers. But that mattered very
little to lull the blood-lust of the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.

As far as the Pacific countries (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, the
Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New
Zealand etc.) are concerned, it is the CCP dictatorship in Beijing
that is the greatest menace to world peace. In fact, China's small
neighbors thank USA for the fact that  China hasn't dared since 1979
to launch a bloody invasion to teach any of its small neighbors a
lesson. As far as the Pacific nations are concerned, it is the USA
that is providing a shield against the blood lust of the CCP
dictatorship.


 
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Discussion subject changed to "More crazy twisted words from a crazy sadistic warp-minded lunatic. Satish should be locked up in a insane asylum." by rst0
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 More options Jul 27 2012, 10:48 pm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese, soc.culture.china, soc.culture.malaysia, soc.culture.singapore
From: rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:48:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 27 2012 10:48 pm
Subject: More crazy twisted words from a crazy sadistic warp-minded lunatic. Satish should be locked up in a insane asylum.
More crazy twisted words from a crazy sadistic warp-minded lunatic.
Satish should be locked up in a insane asylum.

 
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