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China creates city on disputed island, angering neighbors [Video]
July 24, 2012 | 1:16 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/07/china-dubs-island-new-city-in-bid-to-control-seas-video.html

China has declared a tiny island its newest city, angering Vietnam and
the Philippines, which have sparred with Beijing over its claim that
it controls nearly all of the South China Sea.

About 1,000 people inhabit the newly christened city of Sansha on the
island of Yongxing, also known as Woody Island, which relies on ships
from the mainland for fresh water and medicine. Billing the new city
as a bulwark for Chinese sovereignty, China has announced that the
island city will host troops and serve as the administrative center
for nearby islands claimed by Vietnam, the Philippines and neighboring
nations.

The Chinese flag was hoisted over the new city on Tuesday to the
strains of the national anthem, the official New China News Agency
reported. The fledgling city now has its first mayor.

Vietnam, which also claims the Paracel islands where Sansha is
located, argued the move violates international law, calling on China
to “immediately stop and cancel its wrongful activities.” The
Philippines has contested the establishment of the city as well.

“If someone enters your yard and told you he owns it, will you allow
that?” President Benigno Aquino argued Monday in an annual address,
insisting his country would not back down from its island claims.

Disputes involving the South China Sea have grown increasingly tense
and confrontational this year as China and its neighbors expand their
military reach and hard-liners have gained political power, the
International Crisis Group wrote in a new report released Tuesday,
warning of a growing risk of skirmishes at sea.

"While the likelihood of major conflict remains low, all of the trends
are in the wrong direction, and prospects of resolution are
diminishing," the research group wrote.

Creating Sansha is the latest of those troubling trends. The idea is
not new: The Hainan provincial government has repeatedly tried to
establish a governing body over the Paracel and Spratly islands in the
past. Its plan to create Sansha made headlines five years ago,
triggering protests in Vietnam.

Beijing suspended the plan at that time. The fact that it has blessed
Sansha this time around is a sign of worsening relations with Vietnam,
said Stephanie Kleine-Ahlbrandt, North East Asia project director for
the International Crisis Group. Vietnam, in turn, issued a law
declaring the islands under its jurisdiction.

"These moves have been planned for years -- but both sides had held
back," Kleine-Ahlbrandt said.

The South China Sea has become increasingly coveted as fish stocks
dwindle and strained economies eye the area for oil reserves, a
possible lifeline.

Although the United States has not taken a stand, its increased
attention and overtures to Vietnam, the Philippines and other Asian
nations have also emboldened the countries to press their claims
against China, said Andrew Billo, senior program officer for policy at
the Asia Society.

"They feel they have the support of this major global power," Billo
said.

China and the Philippines were locked in a standoff this year over a
string of islands on the Scarborough Shoal, trading barbs in the media
and crimping economic relations. Though the two sides were said to
have pulled back their ships last month, Chinese vessels have
reportedly returned.

Little came of a recent summit of Southeast Asian leaders over the
disputed waters. There is scant agreement even among the neighbors
staking their claims against China, which include Malaysia, Brunei and
Taiwan, the International Crisis Group wrote.

"It's very difficult because you have all these nationalisms bumping
up against each other," said Robert A. Manning, senior fellow at the
Atlantic Council. "Nobody wants to be soft on national sovereignty."

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> China creates city on disputed island, angering neighbors [Video]

CCP dictatorship in Beijing is looking for its very own Sudetenland.


The Munich agreement gave in to Nazi regime's demand for Sudetenland.
But this only whetted the Nazi regime's addiction to aggrandizement.
The Nazi regime went on to lay claims on Austria and then to Poland
and then to Russia and France and then to the whole world.

The Beijing bandit regime's imperialist agenda is expanding
exponentially. Now it is disputing Japan's sovereignty over Okinawa on
the basis of Okinawa's tributary relationship with China some 500
years ago. The CCP dictatorship in Beijing is becoming as much a
menace to world peace as the Tojo regime and the Hitler regime were in
their days:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/influential-chinese-commentators-dispute-japans-claim-to-okinawa/2012/07/23/gJQAQPka4W_story.html

Washington Post
Monday, July 23, 2012

Japan’s claim to Okinawa disputed by influential Chinese commentators
By Kathrin Hille and Mure Dickie, Updated: Monday, July 23, 9:29 AM

BEIJING — For many observers, rising friction between China and Japan
over a group of remote and uninhabited islands in the East China Sea
is worrying enough.

But if some influential Chinese nationalist commentators have their
way, the spat over the Japanese-controlled Senkaku islands — which
Beijing calls the Diaoyu — could widen into a dispute over a much more
important archipelago.

The CCP-dictatorship in Beijing is getting intoxicated with its
imperialist agenda. It is now seriously thinking of disputing Japanese
Okinawa on the specious plea that Okinawa had a tributary relationship
with Okinawa half a millennium ago.

The Beijing bandit regime is behaving the way the Hitler regime had.
Munich didn't appease Hitler. From claims on Sudetenland and Austria,
it was an easy step to claims on Poland and France and then on Russia
and then on the whole world.

In a fiery editorial this month, the Global Times newspaper urged
Beijing to consider challenging Japan’s control over its southern
prefecture of Okinawa, an island chain with a population of 1.4
million people that bristles with U.S. military bases.

“China should not be afraid of engaging with Japan in a mutual
undermining of territorial integrity,” the Communist Party-run paper
declared.

Maj. Gen. Jin Yinan, head of the strategy research institute at
China’s National Defense University, went even further. He told state-
run radio that limiting discussion to the Diaoyu was “too narrow,”
saying Beijing should question ownership of the whole Ryukyu
archipelago, which by some definitions extends beyond Okinawa.

While the Chinese government has offered no endorsement of such
radical views, their open espousal by senior commentators is likely to
be deeply unsettling both to Japan and other neighboring nations.

“Challenging Japan’s sovereignty over the Ryukyus would indeed be a
break from the past,” says Taylor Fravel, a Chinese security expert at
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who contends that Beijing has
tended to limit its territorial claims for the sake of clearly defined
borders.

Chinese questioning of Japanese sovereignty over Okinawa is based on
the prefecture’s roots in an independent state known as the Ryukyu
Kingdom that won control of the archipelago in the 15th century.
Ryukyu kings paid formal tribute to Chinese emperors, a practice
allowing lucrative trade that continued even after the kingdom was
conquered by a Japanese feudal domain in 1609. Okinawa only officially
became part of Japan in 1879.

For some in China, this history is enough to render illegitimate
Japanese rule over a strategically important archipelago seen as the
biggest impediment to the expansion of Chinese naval power in the
Pacific.

Tang Chunfeng, a former official at the Chinese Embassy in Tokyo, is
one of those campaigning for China to rethink its acceptance of
Japanese rule over Okinawa, saying past restraint has “done a lot of
harm.”

“When I was in Japan, I didn’t even know that the Ryukyus were once
ours,” says Tang, now a Japan specialist at a Commerce Ministry think
tank.

But such arguments could be diplomatically incendiary.

“Once you start arguing that a tributary relationship at some point in
history is the basis for a sovereignty claim in the 20th century, you
start worrying a lot of people,” says June Teufel Dreyer, a China and
Japan specialist at the University of Miami. “Many, many countries had
tributary relationships with China.”

Some Chinese hawks stop short of saying Okinawa should be Chinese,
suggesting it is enough to promote the idea that the archipelago
should be independent from Japan. Such a gambit, they say, would make
clear to Tokyo the cost of denying Chinese claims to the Diaoyu/
Senkaku.

But Zhou Yongsheng, a professor at China Foreign Affairs University,
warns against such tactics.

“Using the Ryukyu sovereignty issue to resolve the Diaoyu dispute
would destroy the basis of China-Japan relations,” Zhou says. “If this
was considered, it would basically be the prelude to military action.”

Nor can Beijing expect much enthusiasm for independence among
Okinawans. While many in the prefecture are unhappy with Japanese
government policies — and with the presence of U.S. troops —
separatist sentiment is muted. A pro-independence candidate who ran
for governor in 2006 received only 6,220 votes.

Chinese questioning of Japan’s sovereignty over Okinawa would also
invite comparisons with Beijing’s policy of suppressing pro-
independence movements among its much more restive Tibetan, Mongolian
and Uighur populations.

Yasukatsu Matsushima, a professor at Ryukoku University in Kyoto, is a
strong advocate of Okinawan independence who believes Tokyo’s rule
over the islands is illegal, but he notes that at least in Japan such
views can be openly expressed.

It would be “strange” if China supported self-determination for
Okinawans but continued to deny it to its own minorities, Matsushima
says.

“We have to consider the background” to any Chinese support for
independence, he says. “We can’t allow Ryukyu independence to be used
as a tool.”

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http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/17-07-2012/121658-china_territorial_claims-0/

China has territorial claims to nearly 20 countries

17.07.2012

Chinese leader Mao Zedong not only built a strong country but also
outlined a global goal: "We must conquer the globe where we will
create a powerful state." Today, China has territorial claims to all
its neighbors. Naturally, the U.S. is dreaming of becoming a mediator
in resolving disputes in the region. But it seems that Beijing
absolutely does not care about their opinion.

Burma, Laos, Northern India, Vietnam, Nepal, Bhutan, Thailand,
Malaysia, Singapore, the Ryukyu Islands, 300 islands of the South
China, East China and Yellow Seas, as well as Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia,
Taiwan, South Kazakhstan, the Afghan province of Bahdashan,
Transbaikalia and the Far East to South Okhotsk - here is the complete
list of areas that, according to Zedong, were lost due to the fall of
the Qing empire. All of these countries and regions combined exceed
the territory of modern China. Not all complaints are voiced by the
Government of China in the international arena, but within the country
the imperialist ambitions have not been lost, but rather, are actively
promoted.

The PRC authorities talk out loud only about the areas that, at least
theoretically, can be taken away from Japan and Korea. Tokyo is
regularly frustrated not only because of the travel of the Russian
leaders to the Kuril Islands, but also about the Chinese ships freely
entering the disputed Senkaku Islands waters. Beijing believes that
the Islands are called Diaoyu, and they belonged to China, but the
malicious Japanese tricked the U.S. into giving them to Japan because
after World War II the uninhabited archipelago was in the US
jurisdiction.

Significant reserves of natural gas were found on the islands. For the
growing industry of China and stagnant Japan it is more than a serious
argument in favor of the struggle for the archipelago, no matter what
it is called. Not to mention the fish that is found there in large
quantities. To date, the only agreement the parties have reached in
the negotiations is on the joint development of oil fields. In
addition, if the Japanese behave more or less decently, the Chinese
are regularly caught for illegal fishing in the area.

Any territorial dispute, but rather, its resolution, is a serious
precedent. If China's claim in respect of at least one territory from
the list of the "lost" is satisfied, the Chinese machine would be
unstoppable. Despite the fact that the Chinese are very pleased to
partner with Russia and have always supported Russia in the UN
Security Council, in person, on the sidelines, its diplomats
supposedly jokingly hint to their Russian colleagues: you must
understand that soon you will have to share the Far East? China has
more than a billion people, while Russia's vast territory barely has
150 million.

These dangerous trends - demographic, and as a result, geopolitical -
must sound scary to the Russian government, but so far it seems that
it is happy with the fact that Beijing makes territorial claims only
to Seoul and Tokyo. In 2005 Russia had already given China a bounty in
the form of 337 square kilometers of land in the area of ​​Big Island
(upper Argun River in the Chita region) and two sites in the vicinity
of the islands Tarabarov and Big Ussuri near the confluence of the
Amur and Ussuri.

However, none of the leaders of the military departments of ASEAN that
includes all debating countries agree to recognize, for example, the
fact that Diaoyu belongs to Japan. Instead, the defense ministers of
Vietnam, Indonesia, Australia, Thailand and Singapore urged the
Japanese authorities to proceed with caution and within the framework
of the international law. These countries certainly do not need a
resolution to the dispute because in that case their territory will be
separated from China only by perseverance of the latter.

They are silent about the "Iodo island" (the Chinese version is
Suenchzhao. - Ed) in the East China Sea. The sneaky Chinese took the
principle of dividing the Arctic as an example and now claim that the
underwater ridge of this tiny piece of land is under close control of
the Chinese. Since the Iodo is closer to Korea, in 2003 the Koreans
built an uninhabitable marine research station there. From the
standpoint of the international law, this rock in general should not
be the subject of a debate.

In any case, the controversy continues, Japan and South Korea remain
to be supported by their all-time ally - the United States. For the
US, the unification of Southeast Asian Nations is a chance to save
their own economy, because in that case the World Trade Center will
move there, where currently there are no transnational corporations in
the amount sufficient for the U.S.

The success of the White House in the region does not depend on the
strength that America loves to show any chance it has, but rather,
diplomacy, as the countries of ASEAN and Asia-Pacific region do not
trust each other or anyone outside the regional boundaries. However,
Washington is trusted here because of the support of Seoul and Tokyo.
However, China has already pushed Japan out of the ranks of the
largest economies in the world, and the structure of the region is no
longer formed on spatial basis.

Therefore, territorial claims of China, and not Russia, India or, for
example, Australia are so important for Washington. Beijing is the
only capital of the world, ready to use force in the struggle for the
sake of expansion. During the last ten years, while America was
blowing up its financial bubble, China has not only developed the
industry, but also equipped its area of ​​interest with military
equipment. China has placed 38 new diesel and nuclear submarines in
the region, purchased four destroyers of class "Modern" from Russia
and built another dozen on its own, and has launched a network of
ground-based ballistic missiles to destroy naval targets.

Only one other country has done this before - the Soviet Union during
the "Cold War". It is no wonder that the Americans are very concerned
with the regular quarrels between China and its major allies.
Construction of a naval base on Hainan Island does not add confidence
to the U.S. The proximity to the Malacca Strait poses a threat to the
smooth supply of Washington's main allies in the region - Japan, South
Korea and Taiwan - this is the way the US sees the situation. The
American senators have already decided that such behavior is a threat
to Beijing's regional peace and stability, economic development and
even "food security". The international community is well aware what
usually follows such wording.

Ilona Raskolnikova

Pravda.Ru

*******************

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/26/inside-china-436801701/?page=all#pagebreak


Threat against ‘little countries’
By Miles Yu
mmil...@gmail.com


China’s official communist newspaper, the Global Times, published a
chilling editorial warning several “little countries” that are
disputing China’s maritime claims in the South China Sea, notably the
Philippines and Vietnam, to “get ready to hear the sound of gunfire.”


Headlined “China Cannot Resort Only to Negotiations Over Maritime
Conflicts, We Must Kill One to Deter One Hundred If Necessary,” the
editorial published Tuesday asked, in a tone of condescension, where
these “little neighboring countries” got the nerve to challenge China.
It called such challenges an “opportunistic strategic offensive
launched by little countries against a big country.”


The newspaper further threatened that the game these countries play
against China would not be easy to win because “China possesses the
force to end such game anytime.”


The report said any fear of a naval war is unnecessary because the
Chinese public had been psychologically getting used to such a naval
conflagration in recent years.


According to the newspaper, the root cause of China’s trouble with
these “little countries” is the United States. “At present various
disputants behave with imperial swagger [against China],” the
commentary said, “as if with the support from the United States, they
all had the force and capabilities to subjugate China.”


The newspaper used the phrase “bodies of waters in East Asia” to
include areas other than the South China Sea where China has
territorial disputes — a clear reference to South Korea and Japan.


Since April 2010, China began deliberately sending regular fishing
fleets accompanied by official government escort ships to disputed
areas of the Spratly’s Island, Senkaku islands, the Korean littoral
area and other murky waters.


These China fishing and escort ships routinely clash with other
nations’ naval patrol ships, including incidents with the Philippine
navy, the South Korean navy and the Japanese coastal patrol vessels
just within the past week, dramatically escalating tensions with
several “little countries.”


Underground Great Wall


The U.S. government this week announced that it had dismantled and
destroyed the last and the largest Cold War-era nuclear weapon, the
B53 gravity bomb, in Amarillo, Texas.


Meanwhile, China is increasing its stockpile of nuclear weapons under
the rubric of a mammoth project called the Underground Great Wall that
includes a 3,000-mile-long subterranean tunnel system used to store
and operate the many thousands of China’s nuclear-carrying missiles.
The system is under the direct supervision of China’s strategic
missile forces known as the Second Artillery Corps.


First reported by the Chinese state television in March 2008 and
confirmed by the Chinese military a year later, the Underground Great
Wall runs several hundred feet below the ground, said James Holmes of
the U.S. Naval War College.


Mr. Holmes wrote in the Japanese-based electronic journal the Diplomat
in August that “the very scale of the underground network opens up new
vistas for Chinese nuclear strategy.”


On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal quoted former Pentagon nuclear
weapons specialist Philip Karber as fundamentally challenging the
West’s conventional assumption about the size of China’s nuclear
stockpile, officially estimated to include several hundred warheads.


Mr. Karber said gauging the size of China’s nuclear arsenal is
difficult, but the Wall Street Journal article urged an immediate
reconsideration of the underestimated arsenal because “the alternative
is for China, steeped in a 2,500 year military tradition of
concealment, deception and surprise, to announce — at a time and in a
manner of its choosing — its supremacy in a field that we have
foolishly abandoned to our dreams.”


Anti-terrorism law proposed


China announced Monday that it would enact a sweeping law to combat
what the communist state would define as “terrorists” or “terrorist
acts.” These acts include creating public disorder and social panic,
causing public property damage and threatening government agencies.
The law would target international organizations and all others that
abet and finance such “terrorists” and “terrorist acts.”


Human rights activists and thousands of netizens immediately reacted
with anger and protest. Li Tiantian, a Shanghai-based human rights
lawyer, was quoted by overseas Chinese news media as saying: “This law
aims to protect the power structure of the state, to guarantee the
security, stability and power of the government. It is the same as
calling all actions jeopardizing the regime’s rule terrorism,
deserving suppression.”

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rst9

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Your opinion doesn't count as you are too brainwashed by the CIA.

hotac

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On Jul 25, 11:29 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Your opinion doesn't count as you are too brainwashed by the CIA.

rst,

It is not Satish's opinion. He just presented the facts.

The world already saw these facts.
You're the one among many blind Chinese who just foolishly believe in
the CCP's dictatorship.

I feel sorry for that!

rst9

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On Jul 25, 8:47 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 11:29 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Your opinion doesn't count as you are too brainwashed by the CIA.
>
> rst,
>
> It is not Satish's opinion. He just presented the facts.

He has no facts. Satish is too brainwashed. He's nothing but a crazy
twisted warp-minded lunatic. He should be locked in an insane asylum.

>
> The world already saw these facts.

The world saw a "shoot to kill" Uncle Sam whose only concern is:
"If you're NOT with us, you're against us" mentality.

> You're the one among many blind Chinese who just foolishly
> believe in the CCP's dictatorship.

I don't believe in the "CCP's dictatorship". I believe what I think
is the truth.

>
> I feel sorry for that!

I think you should feel sorry for yourself for thinking otherwise.


hotac

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If you think CCP's dictatorship, the one you believe in, is the truth,
why don't you pack up and move back to China where you belonged?

Any time, no one can stop you.



Satish

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rstx was born in a village in China. He came to USA in 1949 via Hong
Kong as an 11-year old to be reunited with his biological father. He
carries a US passport and got a secret clearance from US government to
work on advanced weapons systems at Lockheed. It is clear that rstx
had thought it wise not to reveal that his heart was with the bandit
regime in Beijing when he applied for US citizenship, for a secret
clearance and for a job with Lockheed.


74-year old rstx has retired and shacks up with his gf in USA. He
lives off pensions from Lockheed and from US social security. But he
has chosen to to supplement his US pensions with an allowance of 50
cents/post on the newsgroup from the CCP dictatorship in China.


But, of course, rstx is well knows which side of the toast is
buttered. For all his rantings about "evil USA" and "virtuous CCP-
dictatorship in China", he has stayed put in USA.


Chinese-Americans are by and large a patriotic lot. But there are a
few bad apples who go proactive with their bid to serve the colonial
agenda of CCP-dictatorship. These bad apples had often worked with
defense contractors like Lockheed, Boeing etc. but when opportunity
came they betrayed USA by selling company and US secrets to the CCP-
dictatorship. When caught, these bad apples inevitably landed in
jail.


rstx, USA respects your freedom of speech. Unlike the CCP-dictatorship
in China, the US government is not going to monitor your posts on the
newsgroup and go after you for your rantings on the internet. You can
bark with impunity without any fear of reprisal by the US government.
But you will make a grave mistake if you ever try to bite the hand
that feeds you by selling Lockheed and US secrets to the CCP-
dictatorship. You will be eventually caught and spend the rest of your
golden years inside jail cells.


Try to be like the normal Chinese-Americans. Ambassador Gary Locke is
a good role model. He has won nothing but admiration from the
ordinary Chinese under CCP-dictatorship.He is far more respected by
the ordinary folks in China than the stinking fat cats in the party
politburo.


As a retired 74-year old, you have ample time in your hand. Your idle
brain has become the devil's workshop. You are 24/7 on the internet
pushing the evil agenda of the CCP-dictatorship in China. But if you
have any brain, you will bark but not bite to avoid ending up in jail
like a few Chinese Americans have for selling US to the CCP-
dictatorship in China for pecuniary gains.


China-born aerospace engineer Dogfang Greg Chung is the same age as 74-
year old rstx. rstx would be wise to steer himself away from the path
of treason that has earned the 74-year old Dongfan Gref Chung a 15
year prison sentence. Here's his shameful story:


http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/09/local/la-me-chinese-spy9-2010feb09


9-2-2010


Chinese-born engineer gets 15 years in spying for China
Dongfan 'Greg' Chung, who worked with Boeing and Rockwell
International, was accused of providing information on the space
shuttle and Delta IV rocket.
By Patrick J. McDonnell


A Chinese-born aerospace engineer who had access to sensitive material
while working with a pair of major defense contractors in Southern
California was sentenced Monday to more than 15 years in prison for
acquiring secret space shuttle data and other information for China.


U.S. District Judge Cormac J. Carney in Santa Ana imposed a 188-month
prison term on Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 73, a naturalized U.S. citizen
who lives in Orange.



Carney declared that he could not "put a price tag" on national
security and sought to send a signal to China to "stop sending your
spies here," according to the U.S. attorney's office.


Chung, who worked at Boeing's Huntington Beach plant, denied being a
spy and said he was gathering documents for a book, not for espionage.
His attorneys argued that much of the material was already available
on the public record.


At his sentencing, Chung professed his love for the United States,
even as prosecutors depicted him as a spy who would compromise U.S.
national security.


"Giving China advanced rocket technology is not in the United States'
national interest," said Assistant U.S. Atty. Greg Staples. "There is
a voracious appetite for U.S. technology in China."


Whether loyalty to his homeland or financial gain was Chung's motive
remained unclear. The case is one of a number of prosecutions that
have shed light on alleged Chinese efforts to gain access to U.S.
technology and research through espionage.


Chung was the first suspect tried with attempting to help a foreign
nation under the terms of the 1996 Economic Espionage Act, passed to
help prevent pilfering of sensitive economic information. Chung chose
to have the case heard by the judge rather than a jury.


Chung was convicted last year on charges of economic espionage and
acting as an agent for more than three decades while employed by
Rockwell International and Boeing Co.


When Chung was convicted, Carney said the case revealed Chung's
"secret life" as a "spy" for China. The case against him arose from an
investigation into another engineer, Chi Mak, who worked in the United
States and obtained sensitive military information for China. Mak and
several relatives were convicted of providing defense information to
China, the U.S. attorney's office said. Carney sentenced Mak to more
than 24 years in prison in 2008.


Federal authorities said Chung stole restricted technology and trade
secrets, including data related to the space shuttle and the Delta IV
rocket.


"This case demonstrates our resolve to protect the secrets that help
protect the United States, as well as the important technology
advancements developed by scientists working for companies that
provide crucial support to our national security programs," acting
U.S. Atty. George S. Cardona said Monday in a statement.


Chung held a "secret" security clearance when he worked at Rockwell
and Boeing on the space shuttle program, authorities said. He retired
in 2002 but the next year returned to Boeing as a contractor, a
position he held until September 2006, the U.S. attorney's office
said.


Between 1985 and 2003, Chung made trips to China to deliver lectures
on technology involving the space shuttle and other programs, the
government said. During those trips, Chung met with Chinese government
officials, including military agents, U.S. authorities said.

rst9

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On Jul 25, 9:09 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 11:55 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think you should feel sorry for yourself for thinking otherwise.
>
> If you think CCP's dictatorship,

You and crazy twisted warp-minded lunatic Satish are the same,
Both of you are so brainwashed you have no idea what the hell you are
talking.

> the one you believe in,

I believe in myself.

> is the truth,

Yes, the truth. Think like a man, and analyze everything you read and
hear.

No matter what I believe in, the world will continue as the fate of
the world is determined by politicians of the superpowers, not me.
I have absolutely no control but to say what I believe to be the
truth.

> why don't you pack up and move back to China where you belonged?

It will not help you or the world as the politics and the world moves
closer and closer to war.

>
> Any time, no one can stop you.

Why don't you stop being a fool and open your eyes and see what is
happening in the world.


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Satish

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Jul 25, 2012, 2:05:18 PM7/25/12
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On Jul 25, 9:25 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:09 am, hotac <hochim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 25, 11:55 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I think you should feel sorry for yourself for thinking otherwise.
>
> > If you think CCP's dictatorship,
>
> You and crazy twisted warp-minded lunatic Satish are the same,
> Both of you are so brainwashed you have no idea what the hell you are
> talking.
>

One has to be a "crazy twisted warp-minded (sic) lunatic" to cheerlead
the CCP dictatorship. rst does it not for the proverbial 30 pieces of
silver but for 50 cents per post on the newsgroup from the CCP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

>
> > the one you believe in,
>
> I believe in myself.
>

If you believed in yourself, you wouldn't have kept your loyalty to
the CCP dictatorship under wraps when you applied for secret clearance
from the USA to work on advanced weapons systems at Lockheed where you
were an employee.


>
> > is the truth,
>
> Yes, the truth. Think like a man, and analyze everything you read and
> hear.
>
Oh yes. You have analyzed everything. That is why you abuse USA even
as you cheerlead the CCP dictatorship in Beijing. But if you were
residing in Red China you would have scrupulously avoided criticizing
Red China and cheerleading USA. You would have known too well that any
deviation of his newsgroup posts from the official CCP-line will right
away lead you to re-education through labor ( 勞動教養 ). And, then, you
might indeed end up peeing and shitting at the very sight of a
keyboard.

>
> No matter what I believe in, the world will continue as the fate of
> the world is determined by politicians of the superpowers, not me.
> I have absolutely no control but to say what I believe to be the
> truth.
>

But if you were living in Red China, you would have been very very
careful about what you posted on the internet. Red China maintains a
vigil on internet posts. Any deviation of your newsgroup posts from
the official CCP-line would have right away led you to re-education
through labor ( 勞動教養 ). And, then, you would have ended up peeing and
shitting at the very sight of a keyboard.


>
> > why don't you pack up and move back to China where you belonged?
>
> It will not help you or the world as the politics and the world moves
> closer and closer to war.
>

Most importantly, you know which side of the toast is buttered. You
will stay put in USA even as you collect 50 cents per post on the
newsgroup from the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.

>
> > Any time, no one can stop you.
>
> Why don't you stop being a fool and open your eyes and see what is
> happening in the world.

rstx, you should stop being so cunning and stop bilking USA. Go back
to where your heart really resides, namely, the village of your birth
in China under CCP-dictatorship. That would be the honest thing to do.
Of course, it is another matter that your gf gf will refuse to follow
you to CCP-land where any deviation of his newsgroup posts from the
official CCP-line will right away lead you to re-education through
labor ( 勞動教養 ). And, then, you might end up peeing and shitting at
the very sight of a keyboard.

rst9

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Jul 25, 2012, 3:25:08 PM7/25/12
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Words of a crazy twisted warp-minded lunatic.

Satish

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Jul 25, 2012, 4:32:11 PM7/25/12
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On Jul 25, 12:25 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Words of a crazy twisted warp-minded lunatic.

rst9

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Jul 25, 2012, 5:14:54 PM7/25/12
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rst9

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Jul 26, 2012, 12:43:13 AM7/26/12
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More words from a crazy twisted warp-minded lunatic. Satish should be
locked up in a insane asylum.

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