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Demorising

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Jan 23, 2005, 11:44:43 PM1/23/05
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Zarqawi has declared war on the principle of democracy; so far, CCP has not
offered a comment.

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Zarqawi declares war on Iraq elections, Chinese hostages safe

http://www.turkishpress.com/world/news.asp?id=050123181202.bat0yxb6.xml

Zarqawi said next Sunday's election was a "wicked trap aimed at putting the
Rafidha (a derogatory term for Shiite Muslims) in the seat of power in Iraq."

Meanwhile, eight Chinese hostages freed in Iraq have been handed back to the
Chinese authorities, a diplomat said Sunday, ending 24 hours of jitters and
uncertainty about their whereabouts.

Al-Arabiya television said China had met the captors demands by issuing a
decree banning its nationals from entering Iraq.

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http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=103658&region=6

"We have declared a bitter war against the principle of democracy and all those
who seek to enact it," the speaker [Zarqawi] says.

"Those who vote are infidels and with God as my witness, I have informed them
(of our intentions)".


charl...@my-deja.com

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Jan 24, 2005, 4:53:14 AM1/24/05
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Demorising wrote:
> Zarqawi has declared war on the principle of democracy;

If someone invaded USA, imposed election on Americans to install rulers
who will sign contracts/concessions with the invaders only, is that
still democracy?

Is it really that hard to understand election imposed by foreign
invaders as false pretext to install expat puppet regime is not
democracy? If what Iraq has rigth now is freedom, I hope China will
never be free.

If Bush regime can delcare war on false WMD pretext, why can't Zarqawi
declare war on actual WMD tyranny?

Iraq has the highest childhood leukema rate on Earth because all those
Uranium isotopes in the form of incinerated dirty bombs we Americans
have dropped on them.

Who's the real terroist using WMD/dirty bomb?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Iraq+highest+childhood+leukemia

Army Shells Pose Cancer Risk in Iraq... Shells Pose Cancer Risk in Iraq
Depleted Uranium ... number, highest levels and highest concentrations
of ... abnormally high levels of childhood leukemia and birth ...
www.nukewatch.com/du/20031214guardian.html - 8k - Cached - Similar
pages

Michael Parenti: Defying the Sanctions: A Flight to Iraq... cancer
rates have skyrocketed: the childhood leukemia rate is now the highest
in the world. Most of the leukemia increase is in southern Iraq where
the bombing ...
www.michaelparenti.org/DefyingSanctions.html - 26k - Cached - Similar
pages


> so far, CCP has not
> offered a comment.

So has a lot of other countries, so what?

Jim Walsh

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Jan 24, 2005, 8:17:18 AM1/24/05
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:53:14 -0800, charles_liu thought carefully and
wrote:


> Demorising wrote:
>> Zarqawi has declared war on the principle of democracy;
>
> If someone invaded USA, imposed election on Americans to install rulers
> who will sign contracts/concessions with the invaders only, is that
> still democracy?

Agree that the pending elections will not create a full-blown democratic
government in Iraq. On the other hand, America and its allies did succeed
in imposing democracy on Germany and Japan.


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Demorising

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Jan 24, 2005, 12:21:10 PM1/24/05
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I don't think CCP has reported Zarqawi's declaration to the Chinese people.
Apparently CCP does not want to advertise the convergence of its views with
those of terrorist Zarqawi. This comes shortly after the release of eight
Chinese hostages by the Iraq insurgents. CCP proclaimed "no ransom was paid"
confirming the release was predicated on the parallel political viewpoints of
the two sides. The hostages lives will be spared. They will be returned to
China where only their dreams will be killed.

Guru Google

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Jan 24, 2005, 11:43:21 PM1/24/05
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Demorising wrote:
> I don't think CCP has reported Zarqawi's declaration to the Chinese
people.

Xinhua carried it -- in English. Not yet find the Chinese page.

charl...@my-deja.com

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Jan 25, 2005, 12:53:05 AM1/25/05
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Jim Walsh wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:53:14 -0800, charles_liu thought carefully and
> wrote:
>
>
> > Demorising wrote:
> >> Zarqawi has declared war on the principle of democracy;
> >
> > If someone invaded USA, imposed election on Americans to install
rulers
> > who will sign contracts/concessions with the invaders only, is that
> > still democracy?
>
> Agree that the pending elections will not create a full-blown
democratic
> government in Iraq. On the other hand, America and its allies did
succeed
> in imposing democracy on Germany and Japan.

America had allies around the world, and the Marshal Plan. Compare that
with "going it alone", false WMD pretext - huge "qualitative
difference".

Guru Google

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Jan 25, 2005, 1:28:06 AM1/25/05
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charles_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Jim Walsh wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:53:14 -0800, charles_liu thought carefully
and
> > wrote:
> > Agree that the pending elections will not create a full-blown
> democratic
> > government in Iraq. On the other hand, America and its allies did
> succeed
> > in imposing democracy on Germany and Japan.
>
> America had allies around the world, and the Marshal Plan. Compare
that
> with "going it alone", false WMD pretext - huge "qualitative
> difference".

Like CCP, charles liu gotta nothing to say sso he turn away from
Zarqawi's comment on democracy, CcP's lack of response, and try to drag
others into another Iraq story.

charl...@my-deja.com

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Jan 25, 2005, 2:02:32 AM1/25/05
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A lot of nations had kidnapped worker released, so what? Does the
Vatacan have a convergence of views with freedom fighters in Iraq
resisting colonial occupation by United States? Remember Ronald Reagan
gave Osama Bin Ladin billions of dolloars and called all his terrorists
friends "freedom fighters".

And what exactely is this "convergence of views"? Is the view against
use of dirty bomb by anyone, including America? Fight against the dark
corners of tyranny, including Washington DC? If this is the case, I
hope China is all for it.

Iraq has the highest childhood leukema rate on Earth because all those
Uranium isotopes in the form of incinerated dirty bombs we Americans
have dropped on them.

Who's the real terroist using WMD/dirty bomb? Just as I thought, you
and Jim don't have an answer.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Iraq+highest+childhood+leukemia

Guru Google

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Jan 25, 2005, 2:23:34 AM1/25/05
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charles_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> A lot of nations had kidnapped worker released, so what? Does the
> Vatacan have a convergence of views with freedom fighters in Iraq
> resisting colonial occupation by United States? Remember Ronald
Reagan
> gave Osama Bin Ladin billions of dolloars and called all his
terrorists
> friends "freedom fighters".
>

Like CCP, charles liu gotta nothing to say sso he turn away from


Zarqawi's comment on democracy, CcP's lack of response, and try to drag

others into another Iraq story or dirty bomb and WMD.

I believe this response can be post in every charle liu mesg in this
thread and it will be valid. ^_^

Jim Walsh

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Jan 25, 2005, 5:48:08 AM1/25/05
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:53:05 -0800, charles_liu thought carefully and
wrote:


> Jim Walsh wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:53:14 -0800, charles_liu thought carefully and
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Demorising wrote:
>> >> Zarqawi has declared war on the principle of democracy;
>> >
>> > If someone invaded USA, imposed election on Americans to install
>> > rulers who will sign contracts/concessions with the invaders only, is
>> > that still democracy?
>>
>> Agree that the pending elections will not create a full-blown
>> democratic government in Iraq. On the other hand, America and its
>> allies did succeed in imposing democracy on Germany and Japan.
>
> America had allies around the world, and the Marshal Plan. Compare that
> with "going it alone", false WMD pretext - huge "qualitative
> difference".

Agree.

Demorising

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Jan 27, 2005, 1:19:54 AM1/27/05
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Convergence of views:

Hu railed against people who "fly the banner of democracy and political reform"
and said the Party must be "pre-emptive" and "strike when they rear their
heads."

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501050131-1019916,
00.html


"We have declared a bitter war against the principle of democracy and all those
who seek to enact it," the speaker [Zarqawi] says.

http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=103658&region=6

charl...@my-deja.com

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Jan 27, 2005, 3:13:00 AM1/27/05
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You want to talk about "pre-emption"? There ain't no bigger pre-emption
than GW Bush regime's invasion of Iraq with false WMD pretext. Talk
about convergence of views with fellow terrorist, Bush regime is doing
it big time with 1000 tons of dirty bombs.

Guru Google

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Jan 28, 2005, 12:38:32 AM1/28/05
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Indeed. Bush should run tanks over the people like CCP did in TAM in
1989, not using dirtybomb. That way charles liu won't complaint about
it anymore.

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