Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Is Dust Storm Over East Australia Radioactive ?

1 view
Skip to first unread message

(�`�.� + In hoc signo vinces + �.���)

unread,
Sep 22, 2009, 6:15:11 PM9/22/09
to
Dust storms are also often reported in Australia. Central eastern Australia
is a major global source region for atmospheric dust. Frequent dust storms
have occurred since the late-1950s. In 1982-1983, El Ni�o attacked Eastern
Australia which brought exceptionally dry weather. As vegetation dried off,
the topsoil was loosened. There were small dust storms reported in 1982. And
in 1983, a strong, but dry cold front crossed Victoria and blown away and
caused a severe dust storm. 10

Taking in account more than 650 nuclear blasts in Australia on order of the
war criminal Churchill and Liberal idiot Menzies and "wise" decission to
mine uranium in SA as open mine, how much radioactivity dust cloud over East
Australia has?

Oh, the Government and Health authorities are not even interested to
measure...

http://mike-servethepeople.blogspot.com/2008/12/advertiser-image-of-dust-storm-last.html

SA Premier Mike Rann has told the SA Parliament that the expanded Olympic
Dam mine will be moving 1.5 million of tones of rock a day. You wont even
need the special atmospherics of a major outback dust storm to get
radioactive particles and radon gas swirling around the mine site on a daily
basis with that much rock being moved in that dry, arid location.

However, when one of these dust storms passes of the mine and sucks this
material up into a cloud that might deposit its radioactive content in any
direction over hundreds, if not thousands of kilometers, the we have a
problem.

Mine owner BHP $Billion has not yet said how it will address this problem.
In fact, as reported in a previous post, it's too busy trying to sweet-talk
the Rann government into changing the state's asbestos diseases Act so that
it does not have to pay compensation to asbestos victims who worked for it
in the Whyalla shipyards.

www.centralianadvocate.com.au/docs/no-uranium.pdf

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14410184

The activity concentrations of uranium and thorium series radionuclides were
measured in rainwater samples from 16 storms in northern Australia. For six
of these storms, sequential intra-storm samples were collected. The results
indicate that a substantial fraction of the measured activity concentrations
of 238U, 234U, 230Th, 226Ra and, to a lesser extent, 210Po were due to
below-cloud washout of dust transported from the nearby Ranger uranium mine.
For the six intra-storm studies, the concentrations of these dust-related
radionuclides decreased to one half or less of their initial value after the
first one to two millimetres of rainfall, although in some cases they later
increased when the rainfall intensity reduced. Most of the 210Pb activity
appears to have been sourced from in-cloud rainout, although below-cloud
washout was probably responsible for significant reductions in
concentrations observed over the course of three of the six storms. 210Pb
residence times based on the 210Pb-210Po couple varied significantly from
storm to storm, but relatively little over the course of each of the six
storms studied in detail. This implies that, apart from the initial
reduction in below-cloud washout, there was no substantial change in the
source air mass for the 210Pb during these storms.

Dust storms are usually the symptom of poor land management and a constant
reminder of the interaction between people, the land they use and the
climate. 2 Desert is a very important source of dust storms in historical
time, however, in more recent time, human behavior has created another
source on the desert margin in semi-arid areas that previously were stable.


jonz

unread,
Sep 23, 2009, 3:55:13 AM9/23/09
to
(Ø`∑.∏ + In hoc signo vinces + ∏.∑∆Ø) wrote:
> Dust storms are also often reported in Australia. Central eastern Australia
> is a major global source region for atmospheric dust. Frequent dust storms
> have occurred since the late-1950s. In 1982-1983, El NiÒo attacked Eastern
> Australia which brought exceptionally dry weather. As vegetation dried off,
> the topsoil was loosened. There were small dust storms reported in 1982. And
> in 1983, a strong, but dry cold front crossed Victoria and blown away and
> caused a severe dust storm. 10
>
> Taking in account more than 650 nuclear blasts in Australia on order of the
> war criminal Churchill and Liberal idiot Menzies and "wise" decission to
> mine uranium in SA as open mine, how much radioactivity dust cloud over East
> Australia has?
>
> Oh, the Government and Health authorities are not even interested to
> measure...
>
> http://mike-servethepeople.blogspot.com/2008/12/advertiser-image-of-dust-storm-last.html
>
> SA Premier Mike Rann has told the SA Parliament that the expanded Olympic
> Dam mine will be moving 1.5 million of tones of rock a day.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


--
jonz
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
- boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene
Spafford,1992

Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

unread,
Oct 2, 2009, 11:42:54 PM10/2/09
to

"(Z`�.� + In hoc signo vinces + �.��Z)" <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote in
message news:4ab9...@news.x-privat.org...

> Dust storms are also often reported in Australia. Central eastern
> Australia is a major global source region for atmospheric dust. Frequent
> dust storms have occurred since the late-1950s. In 1982-1983, El Ni�o
> attacked Eastern Australia which brought exceptionally dry weather. As
> vegetation dried off, the topsoil was loosened. There were small dust
> storms reported in 1982. And in 1983, a strong, but dry cold front crossed
> Victoria and blown away and caused a severe dust storm. 10
>
> Taking in account more than 650 nuclear blasts in Australia on order of
> the war criminal Churchill and Liberal idiot Menzies and "wise" decission
> to mine uranium in SA as open mine, how much radioactivity dust cloud over
> East Australia has?
>
> Oh, the Government and Health authorities are not even interested to
> measure...


They measured and covered-up.

What do you think why illegal migrants are send to Christmas Island?

Because it is highly radioactive - they are killing them - same like they
did in Woomera concentration camps:

http://www.janesoceania.com/christmas_about/index.htm

Christmas Island's isolation, which made it so pleasant to some and so dull
to others, was precisely the quality the planters were seeking when they
chose the atoll as the headquarters for Britain's H-bomb tests. The testing
agreement with the Australians had specifically excluded hydrogen weapon
trials on their continent 'for safety reasons'. A new location was sought,
therefore, immediately the go-ahead was given by Cabinet in 1954 for the
development of a thermonuclear (hydrogen) bomb. Testing of the H-bomb's
trigger - a low-yield fission device - was meanwhile to be carried out at
Monte Bello and the Maralinga range.

Both the USA and USSR had, by this time, developed and tested their own
hydrogen weapons and were working towards an international 'moratorium' on
atmospheric testing. The British Government could not opt out of the super
powers' diplomacy, but at the same time they saw the testing of an H bomb as
an international demonstration of power that would restore lost prestige.

Britain's first H bomb was detonated on 15 May 1957. It was dropped from a
Valiant bomber, covered in white barrier paint to avoid radioactive
contamination, flying at thirteen thousand feet. The bomber was flown by
Wing commander K. G. Hubbard: the bomb itself was dropped 'blind' by use of
radar and detonated with barometric fuses at fifteen thousand feet.

The question of radiation exposure for those aboard the ships of the task
force did not arise in the public reports. Each of the H bombs was a so
called 'clean' air-burst, and on each occasion the ships were thirty or
forty miles from ground zero - well beyond the range of any 'initial' or
'prompt' radiation. The seamen responsible for routine radiation monitoring
on board ship found no levels above the normal background count.
'Pre-wetting' operations did take place, however, after the detonations, as
after the later Monte Bello tests but there are no records available, nor
any reports, of any contamination of ships' companies occurring during such
exercises. For the scientists and technicians on Malden island the risks
were greater. for all their jubilation at the low levels of radio-activity
from the bombs, some residual radiation did occur. Ernest Cox, a member of
the AWRE team, was responsible for gamma measurement instruments and before
lift-off from HMS Warrior for the return to Malden after the second test he
asked if clearance had come from health physicists. He was reassured that
the island had been monitored and had been found safe, and proceeded to
carry out his duties without a film badge or geiger counter. 'After a while
my helper and myself took off up the island to retrieve some of my
instruments. Before I did this I asked a principal scientific officer if he
had seen any of the health physics team about, and he said it was rather
strange, but no he hadn't.'

Cox set to work on his first set of gamma ray monitors and slowly progressed
across ground zero towards the RAF's bomb radar marker. He had no uncanny
sense that something was not quite right about the place: 'I said to my army
helper: 'What the hell is wrong and what the hell are we doing here?' We
both had a strange feeling; we noticed no flies, no movement of lizards and
no booby birds. We found several burnt and dead birds and in the distance we
heard one of the three wild pigs but we didn't dare approach too close to
it. It was badly burnt and was going around in circles, blind. I said 'This
bloody place is contaminated, and what the hell are we doing here?'

After ten days small blisters appeared all over Ken Cox's body. He was
repatriated to Britain from Christmas Island voluntarily on medical grounds.
Today traces of those blisters remain, but he claims there are no details of
a skin complaint in his medical records from the AWRE. Terence Dale served
on HMS Narvik as a Chief Shipwright and during the tests he was seconded to
the scientists on Malden. he was one of the first to return after each
detonation and remembers that this was some six to eight hours after the
explosion. He was given no protective clothing. Today Dale is convinced that
ration exposure on Malden has since caused him a catalogue of illnesses, and
particular the development of bilateral cataracts, at the age of forty-five.
Cataracts have been associated with high doses of radiation at Nagasaki and
Hirohima, and normally they do not occur in a man of that age.

Despite the fact that the men were so close to the explosion, the scientists
and military responsible for the six tests at Christmas Island - four H
bombs and two A bombs, the latter low-yield devices hung under balloons -
remain confident to this day that they were quite safe.

All the sizes of the Christmas Island test remain classified but today
Ministry of Defence officials and the AWRE deny that any of the tests took
the authorities by surprise. Other reports, however, suggest that events
were not quite as expected. Sapper Brian Marks served with the Royal
Engineers on Christmas Island and in December 1960 he died at a rare form of
blood cancer which his parents were convinced was caused by his presence at
the tests.

It was some of the men of 76 Squadron at Christmas Island who received the
highest doses recorded in the tests: in two cases 30 rems, according to the
Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher. Christopher Donne, a pilot with the
'sniffer' squadron at Christmas Island, has the dubious distinction of being
the leader of the Canberra crew to have received in 1958 the highest
recorded radiation dose referred to by Mrs Thatcher.

The pilot, Tony Davius, was a young man in his early thirties. The two men
lost contact after the tests but when Templeman tried to get in touch some
years later he was shocked to find that Tony Davis had died from leukeamia
in 1964. Ever since he learnt of his former comrade's death he has harboured
suspicions about his accidental contact with the mushroom cloud. The
Ministry of Defence deny that Davis ever came into contact with radiation on
Christmas Island.

Bryan Young remembers: 'We were cleaning off barrier paint above me and
water came off the back of the wing. I was only wearing cotton whites so, of
course it went straight through, and bearing in mind that it was
contaminated water coming off I wasn't a very happy person underneath. but
we were all too busy at the time to do much about it. In the middle of
decontamination you can't suddenly stop and say "Oh God, I've got to go and
shower all this lot off!." 'Work has to carry on.' Even on the atoll Bryan
Young began to suffer from skin problems and blinding headaches, and his
health problems have persisted ever since.

The document also shows that stores brought in to Christmas Island from
Honolulu appear to have been contaminated in five days, indicating quite
high levels of radioactivity, but the most interesting and perplexing part
is that which describes 'decontamination' and 'physical feelings'. For the
decontamination process it lists: 'Shower, exercise, skipping, bare feet,
hard met, plate surface." For 'Phys Feelings' in 'Open Areas C. E' (sites at
the eastern tip of the island), it lists 'Naus. tingling sore joints.
vision. clears PM after exercise.' According to scientists, this list
indicates symptoms expected after a high dose in the range of 50 to 150
rads, or possibly even higher.


>
> http://mike-servethepeople.blogspot.com/2008/12/advertiser-image-of-dust-storm-last.html
>
> SA Premier Mike Rann has told the SA Parliament that the expanded Olympic
> Dam mine will be moving 1.5 million of tones of rock a day. You wont even
> need the special atmospherics of a major outback dust storm to get
> radioactive particles and radon gas swirling around the mine site on a
> daily basis with that much rock being moved in that dry, arid location.
>

> On May 1st 2009, BHP Billiton released the Environmental Impact Statement
> for its planned expansion of the Olympic Dam (Roxby Downs) uranium/copper
> mine in SA:
>
> ďż˝ The mine operates under the SA Roxby Downs Indenture Act which
> exempts it from key environmental and Aboriginal heritage laws that apply
> everywhere else in SA.
>
> ďż˝ BHP Billiton plans to make Roxby the largest open-cut mine in the
> world. Export of uranium is expected to increase from an average of 4,000
> tonnes per year to 19,000 tonnes. Enough plutonium to build 2,850 nuclear
> weapons each year.
>
> ďż˝ BHP Billiton proposes an increase in water consumption from 35
> million litres daily (from the Great Artesian Basin) to 150 million litres
> daily (up to 42 million litres from the Great Artesian Basin, the
> remainder from a proposed desalination plant at Port Bonython). The total
> amounts to over 100,000 litres of water every minute of every day.
>
> ďż˝ The production of radioactive tailings, stored above ground, will
> increase seven-fold to 70 million tonnes annually. The tailings contain a
> toxic, acidic soup of radionuclides and heavy metals.
>
> ďż˝ Electricity demand for the mine will increase from 120 megawatts to
> 690 megawatts - equivalent to 42% of South Australia�s current total
> electricity consumption.

Harry Merrick

unread,
Oct 3, 2009, 11:30:28 AM10/3/09
to
Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) wrote:
> "(Z`�.� + In hoc signo vinces + �.��Z)" <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote in
> message news:4ab9...@news.x-privat.org...
>> Dust storms are also often reported in Australia. Central eastern
>> Australia is a major global source region for atmospheric dust.
>> Frequent dust storms have occurred since the late-1950s. In
>> 1982-1983, El Ni�o attacked Eastern Australia which brought
>> exceptionally dry weather. As vegetation dried off, the topsoil was
>> loosened. There were small dust storms reported in 1982. And in
>> 1983, a strong, but dry cold front crossed Victoria and blown away
>> and caused a severe dust storm. 10 Taking in account more than 650
>> nuclear blasts in Australia on order
>> of the war criminal Churchill and Liberal idiot Menzies and "wise"
>> decission to mine uranium in SA as open mine, how much radioactivity
>> dust cloud over East Australia has?
>>
>> Oh, the Government and Health authorities are not even interested to
>> measure...
>
>
> They measured and covered-up.
>
> What do you think why illegal migrants are send to Christmas Island?
>
> Because it is highly radioactive - they are killing them - same like
> they did in Woomera concentration camps:
>
> http://www.janesoceania.com/christmas_about/index.htm
>

I believe that yopu are wrong here actually. The bombs were tested "off"
Christmas Island, maybe 400 miles away from it. Also, due to time, the
effects of radiation would have long dissipated anyway.

http://tinyurl.com/e8lfc


--
Harry Merrick.

kangarooistan

unread,
Oct 3, 2009, 4:38:44 PM10/3/09
to
On Oct 4, 1:30 am, "Harry Merrick" <homes...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) wrote:

> >> decission to mine uranium in SA as open mine, how much radioactivity
> >> dust cloud over East Australia has?
>
> >> Oh, the Government and Health authorities are not even interested to
> >> measure...
>
> > They measured and covered-up.
>
> > What do you think why illegal migrants are send to Christmas Island?
>

.


> > Because it is highly radioactive - they are killing them - same like
> > they did in Woomera concentration camps:

Human Guinea pigs mate , you are RIGHT ON there mate


>
> >http://www.janesoceania.com/christmas_about/index.htm
>
> I believe that yopu are wrong here actually. The bombs were tested "off"
> Christmas Island, maybe 400 miles away from it. Also, due to time, the
> effects of radiation would have long dissipated anyway.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/e8lfc
>
> --

Hi Harry Merrick.

The official version changes every few years

, I lived in south australia and my father and several rellies worked
on the so called british tests , very little was told to the public
and its still slowly getting out what they did , where , why and when

The official version is all bullshit , as usual

Those who KNEW what was going on were likely to be arrested if they
told the TRUTH

NOTHING has changed mate , trust me , I was there and so was my father
and grandfather , and even " Uncle Bill "[ probably not related ] , as
he was called William Bragg , who worked on the subject ALL his life
and rang my dad nearly every saturday chatting for over an hour , on
his many visits to SA during the 1950s and 60s

" Uncle Bill " was born in south Australia and grew up with and worked
with both my maternal and paternal parents families who mined and
transported the first Uranium / radium from mines in South Australia
well over 100 years ago
http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/minerals/sa_mines/former_mines/radium_hill_mine/radium_hill_06_61

So much of the early nuclear industry was buried in secrecy we the
sheeple will NEVER EVER be told the truth mate , cold war silenced
nearly everybody from speaking in public , but not in private and
there were many who KNEW exactly what WAS going on and TRIED to stop
it , but got killed as REDS UNDER THE BED hysteria , like terrorism
today , gave the government the cover to kill anybody who TRIED to
tell the TRUTH , and jail those to even spoke about the topic publicly
mate

Much is STILL classified yet there are STILL people alive who KNOW and
where THERE as eye witness and knew those working on WMD , right here
under OUR noses in SOUTH AUSTRALIA
http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/minerals/sa_mines/former_mines/radium_hill_mine/radium_hill_06_61


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lawrence_Bragg
Sir William Lawrence Bragg, CH, OBE, MC, FRS (31 March 1890 – 1 July
1971) was an English physicist who shared the Nobel Prize in Physics
in 1915 with his father Sir William Henry Bragg. known as the Vagabond
or VAGG as he went undercover almost always and traveled HEAPS , to
some old lefties activists in SA

Bragg was born in North Adelaide, South Australia. He was an
impressionable boy and showed an early interest in science and
mathematics. His father, William Henry Bragg, was Professor of
Mathematics and Physics at the University of Adelaide. Shortly after
starting school aged 5, William Lawrence Bragg fell from his tricycle
and broke his arm. His father had recently read about Röntgen's
experiments in Europe and used the newly discovered X-rays to examine
the broken arm. This is the first recorded surgical use of X-rays in
Australia.

' Uncle Bill " and " Uncle Bob " [ Robert Fabian ,a relly } and a
fellow traveler , at the time knew HEAPS
Scotland Yard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sir Robert Peel selected the original Scotland Yard for the new
police .... based upon the career of the by then retired Detective
Inspector Robert Fabian. ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Yard

Rewind (ABC TV): The scientist and weapons of mass destruction
29 Aug 2004 ... 'Rewind' reveals that Australian Nobel Prize winner,
Sir Macfarlane Burnet, was a champion of biological warfare in the
1940s. ...
www.abc.net.au/tv/rewind/txt/s1184924.htm -

but could not ever tell anybody except trusted friends and close
family, they KNEW exactly what was going on , but the sheeple were to
NEVER EVER learn the TRUTH , its still against the LAW to tll the
TRUTH mate ,there is a man in Yatla Prison today for trying , the
public MUST be kept in the DARK or they will discover who the REAL
terrorists are

They are opening a science center in " Uncle Bills" honor this week in
Adelaide

Duke of Kent to open RiAus in Adelaide in October
http://www.riaustralia.org.au/science/home.jsp

A ‘festival of science’ will mark the opening in Adelaide of the
Royal Institution of Great Britain’s first sister establishment
created outside of London in its 200 year history.

To be known as the RiAus, it will be officially opened by His Royal
Highness the Duke of Kent, cousin to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II,
on Thursday 8 October 2009.

The Duke of Kent is the President of the prestigious Royal Institution
in Great Britain. He will be accompanied by the Ri’s Director,
Baroness Professor Susan Greenfield.

Premier Mike Rann says a full series of events will take place over 4
days from 8-12 October to mark the opening of the RiAus.

“The new institution will be housed in the former Stock Exchange
building, now to be known as the Science Exchange building.

“It will be a national, contemporary, dynamic and accessible home for
science located in the heart of Adelaide.
http://www.ministers.sa.gov.au/news.php?id=5348&print=1


“The opening ‘science festival’ will begin on Thursday 8 October to
mark the formal launch, and broadening to events for the public on the
Saturday 10 and Sunday 11 October.

“The RiAus will fulfil the same charter as the Royal Institution in
London which is to “diffuse science for the common purposes of life”.

“It will share programs, staff and knowledge with the Royal
Institution of Great Britain and provide a hub for strategic
collaborations, and an international platform for Australian science
and scientists.

“The Australian Science Media Centre, to be housed at the RiAus, links
several thousand Australian scientists to national media outlets to
improve the quality of science reporting.

“The Royal Institution in London is renowned for the quality of its
scientific research.

“It was founded by people like the renowned chemist and physicist
Michael Faraday. Fourteen of its scientists have been awarded the
Nobel Prize, and 10 of the chemical elements were discovered in its
research laboratory.

“But for centuries, and especially since 1826 when it held the first
of its now famous Christmas Lectures, the Royal Institution has won
public acclaim for making science accessible to a wider, younger
audience.

“Now, as the result of a collaboration established through the South
Australian Government’s ‘Thinkers in Residence’ program, the Royal
Institution will have its second home in South Australia.

“It was an initiative motivated by one of our eminent ‘Thinkers’ the
Royal Institution’s Director in Britain, Baroness Professor Susan
Greenfield.

“Ri Aus will be a place that brings together scientists, engineers,
journalists, companies, educational institutions, community groups and
families.

“There will be live video links into lectures and forums being
delivered at the Royal Institution in London, as well as public forums
in Adelaide.

“It will host presentations and discussions that involve people from
around the world, and which focus on the science-related challenges
facing our societies and our environment.

“We want RiAus to be a meeting place for young people, and a place
they find as interesting and exciting as a visit to a cinema or a
concert.

“It will be like a university for all, but without degrees. RiAus is
a not-for-profit incorporated association, operating independently
from governments and under the guidance of its own RiAus Council.

“Both the Federal Government and the South Australian Governments have
made multi-million dollar commitments to help establish RiAus in the
refurbished Stock Exchange building, to be renamed the ‘Science
Exchange’.

“RiAus aims to fund its activities through a combination of grants,
sponsorship, philanthropy, ticket sales and membership,” Mr Rann said.

0 new messages