"Finnish writer: Estonia to lose independence in 10 years"
Pēteris Cedriņš (Peteris Cedrins)
"In the opinion of the expert, the removal of the Bronze Soldier
monument was the final date in the history of Estonia."
http://balticbusinessnews.com/Default2.aspx?ArticleID=becc1bf7-ae5f-44bf-b9c9-74824c98cd26
Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman? I get the feeling
that the tone of the gentleman's alarm might reflect his effort to
hawk his manuscript...
BBN contains other depressing items, like --
"MP: Moscow wants Baltic countries under its influence"
http://balticbusinessnews.com/Default2.aspx?ArticleID=a202d577-aeb4-4591-967d-cf2e59e65599
There's also an item on the ESSR. "Defense Police’s press
representative Andres Kahar said that they are dealing with the
question at the moment and there is nor reason for panic." Is anybody
really panicking in view of the probably non-existent Fenno-Ugric
Andriuses' farm?
http://balticbusinessnews.com/Default2.aspx?ArticleID=391d977d-5ff8-4f96-b8cf-c6000cadc910
Regards,
/P
Erkki Aalto
: "In the opinion of the expert, the removal of the Bronze Soldier
: monument was the final date in the history of Estonia."
: http://balticbusinessnews.com/Default2.aspx?ArticleID=becc1bf7-ae5f-44bf-b9c9-74824c98cd26
: Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman? I get the feeling
: that the tone of the gentleman's alarm might reflect his effort to
: hawk his manuscript...
I would call him a nutcake. He has an 'Institute' of his own in St.
Petersburg and he is publishing there books and newspaper articles about
the evil deeds of Finland. There is a couple of other similar cases,
too. Possibly they are bitter to Finland beacuse their genius has not
been acknowledged. At least Bäckman seems to be getting some support
from Russia.
--
Erkki 'Örkki' Aalto "Life is divided up into
Internet: Erkki...@Helsinki.FI the horrible and the miserable"
Snail: Tietotekniikkaosasto, P.O. Box 64
FI-00014 University of Helsinki, Finland
David McDuff
Cedrins) <ced...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman?
See these links:
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_B%C3%A4ckman
http://markomihkelson.blogspot.com/2008/08/mis-on-vihaklvajate-tegelik-pale.html
http://pronssisoturi.blogspot.com/
http://halldor2.blogspot.com/2008/08/finnish-islamists-back-russia.html
Regards,
DM
lorad
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT), P?teris Cedri?š (Peteris
>
> >Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman?
>
> See these links:
>
> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_B%C3%A4ckman
>
>
> http://pronssisoturi.blogspot.com/
>
> http://halldor2.blogspot.com/2008/08/finnish-islamists-back-russia.html
>
> Regards,
>
> DM
After monitoring russian propaganda puppets online for over ten years,
I can not remember any period of more russian propaganda activity than
the one currently going on.
Not only do we have the usual puppets such as the Andriush
marionette.. but english-speaking forums are also being inundated with
scads of russian generated dis-info too. And from many more propaganda
operatives and locations than usual. Russian computer hacking and
attacks have also risen to record levels.
I have also noticed that semi-mainstream news sources (such as The
Guardian) have russian moles that have now been activated to produce
political cover for russian aggression.
It is very obvious that moskow is attempting to re-animate the dead
and rejected criminal stalinist 'spheres of influence' .. which is
just another term for russian planned terror state destruction of
neighboring nations.
Normally, I wouldn't be overly concerned.. people should be able to
recognized typical russian criminal machinations.. Yes?
Unfortunately the answer is 'No'.
Seventeen years of western business (and commie) happy-talk regarding
'the *former*' soviet union have created an informational void in
regards to russia. An entire generation seems to have been lulled into
regarding russia as something that it has never been; a non-
aggression, standard democracy. Even two invasions of Chechnya, and
now Georgia have not shocked the dumbed down sheeple awake.
Note that the EU is worthless to rebutt this russian onslaught.
It is loaded with russian compromised puppets.
While the EU is dangling EU membership in front of such genocidal
regimes such as Serbia.. Ukraine (which has long sought the cover of
EU membership) has been left with nothing.
Even a russian invasion of Georgia hasn't motivated the EU to produce
any constructive response to russian aggression.
Gorbachev was prescient in describing the EU as the "European Soviet".
Pēteris Cedriņš (Peteris Cedrins)
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT), P?teris Cedri?š (Peteris
>
> >Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman?
>
> See these links:
>
> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_B%C3%A4ckman
>
>
> http://pronssisoturi.blogspot.com/
>
> http://halldor2.blogspot.com/2008/08/finnish-islamists-back-russia.html
>
> Regards,
>
> DM
Thanks, David and Erkki.
"The Russian Intifada"?!
"According to Bäckman Finns deliberately asked Hitler to destroy
Leningrad [...] planned ethnic clensing [sic] in Karelia"?!
Charming. As with Henry and bears, I may soon start to feel sorry for
nutcakes.
Terveisin,
/P
Eugene Holman
<dmc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT), P?teris Cedri?š (Peteris
> Cedrins) <ced...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman?
>
>
> See these links:
>
>
> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_B%C3%A4ckman
For those who do not read Finnish, try
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Bäckman.
Johan Bäckman is a member of the young generation of Finnish revisionist
historians. He is a specialist on organized crime in Russia and Estonia.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
vello
> P?teris Cedri?? (Peteris Cedrins) <cedr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : "In the opinion of the expert, the removal of the Bronze Soldier
> : monument was the final date in the history of Estonia."
>
>
> : Anyone know anything more about this Johan Bäckman? I get the feeling
> : that the tone of the gentleman's alarm might reflect his effort to
> : hawk his manuscript...
>
> I would call him a nutcake. He has an 'Institute' of his own in St.
> Petersburg and he is publishing there books and newspaper articles about
> the evil deeds of Finland. There is a couple of other similar cases,
> too. Possibly they are bitter to Finland beacuse their genius has not
> been acknowledged. At least Bäckman seems to be getting some support
> from Russia.
>
> --
> Erkki 'Örkki' Aalto "Life is divided up into
> Snail: Tietotekniikkaosasto, P.O. Box 64
> FI-00014 University of Helsinki, Finland
Schröderization of Europe is on way :-) Will we see some big newspaper/
TV channel will be bought by Putin on our gas bills?
Eugene Holman
<6c396ad4-d44d-4a9c...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, lorad
<lora...@cs.com> wrote:
<deletions>
>
> After monitoring russian propaganda puppets online for over ten years,
> I can not remember any period of more russian propaganda activity than
> the one currently going on.
<deletions>
The explanation is far simpler.
The cat is away and the biggest rat has claimed mastery of the table.
Quite seriously, the United States is out to lunch and will not be back
until a few months after the inauguration of the next president. The
Russians, and probably a few others as well, are already salivating at the
highly possible prospect of Sarah Palin, currently already facing serious
legal action for having accepted the position of criminal governor of
ancient Russian land illegally occupied by the Americans, being
commander-in-chief of the US miitary and NATO some time within the next
year or two.
We are looking at the first steps in establishing a post-Amercian world order.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
David McDuff
Holman) wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_B%C3%A4ckman
>
>For those who do not read Finnish, try
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Bäckman.
>
>Johan Bäckman is a member of the young generation of Finnish revisionist
>historians. He is a specialist on organized crime in Russia and Estonia.
There is also some more information here:
http://tundratabloid.blogspot.com/2008/08/finnish-islamic-party-supports-russias.html
DM
Eugene Holman
<758caad7-666f-42f9...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Mikhail Medved <mikhai...@mail.ru> wrote:
<deletions>
> You still don't understand what is happening, Holman. Russia will do
> what it thinks it must in its own interests, US or no US. Just deal
> with it.
I understand quite well, Misha. We have just seen a sterling example of
Russia doing what it thought had to be done in its own interests. But it
certainly is and will continue to be far more confident doing what it
thinks has to be done while America is pre-occupied with its elections and
the Bush administration is terminally impotent. And who in the Russian
defense establishment is not salivating at the prospect of Sarah Palin, a
criminal who has made her living for the past two years by governing
ancient Russian lands hornswoggled from Russia when it was weak, as
American commander-in-chief a year or two from now?
Regards,
Eugene Holman
Dmitry
Can't take somebody who predicts a collapse of Estonia in 10 years
time seriously -))
martin
> In article
> <6c396ad4-d44d-4a9c-a498-0b36448ad...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, lorad
I hardly think so Eugene, the USA is projected to have between 400 to
500 million by 2050, while Russia is project to have around 100
million by 2050. Combine that number of tax payers with US access to
billions of barrels of Canadian oil sands, the American world order
isn't going away any time soon.
Sorry Eugene.
lorad
You forgot ethanol too..
It is already cheper than russian oil derived gasoline.
Eugene Holman
<64626c5a-6bb0-411d...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, lorad
<lora...@cs.com> wrote:
> On Sep 5, 2:59=A0pm, martin <marti...@joymail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 6, 12:08=A0am, hol...@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:
<deletions>
> >
> > > We are looking at the first steps in establishing a post-Amercian world=
> order.
I said "the first steps". First steps often result in falls and bruises.
The important thing is that America is and will be essentially impotent
for the next four to six months. Even worse, the conventional wisdom says
that if the Republicans conclude that McCain is significantly weaker than
Obama before the elections, all they need to do to wrap up the election
for McCain is to launch, or have Israel do it for them, an attack on Iran.
That would probably clinch the election for McCain, but leave the American
military establishment overextended and debilitated, waging three wars
halfway around the globe. Iran, of course, would be a far more formidable
opponent than Iraq or Afghanistan.
> > I hardly think so Eugene, the USA is projected to have between 400 to
> > 500 million by 2050, while Russia is project to have around 100
> > million by 2050.
Quality vs. quantity. China and India should be first-world countries by
then. Russia has recently shown that it can easily grab additional
territory and population, so the 100 million figure might be low. In any
case, the Russian miitary, for all its shortcomings and deficiencies, has
dealt with the problems it has been assigned to solve far more effectively
and ruthlessly than the American military. Georgia, with modern armamemnts
supplied by the US and Israel, was crushingly defeated within a few days.
The insurgents in Afghanistan, with a rag-tag army using mostly 19th
century armaments, is still posing a major threat to the US and NATO
forces, popping their soldiers on a daily basis and controlling much of
the country, after almost seven years of conflict. Georgia was
geopolitical pocket change, but Russia will, understandably, react
strongly, emotionally, and resolutely to an American/NATO commitment to
Ukraine.
> Combine that number of tax payers with US access to
> > billions of barrels of Canadian oil sands, the American world order
> > isn't going away any time soon.
>
> You forgot ethanol too..
> It is already cheper than russian oil derived gasoline.
I'm not predicting that America will collapse or even fail to defend its
position and interests. My point is that other players see and smell
weakness and, like vultures, they are moving in and staking claims on what
might soon be carrion. Russia, which still has numerous problems of its
own to solve, including a rapidly declining population, has been the first
one to challenge American dominance. We have not heard the last from it,
nor will it be the only challenger.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
Markku Grönroos
"Mikhail Medved" <mikhai...@mail.ru> kirjoitti
viestissä:758caad7-666f-42f9...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
You still don't understand what is happening, Holman. Russia will do
what it thinks it must in its own interests, US or no US. Just deal
with it.
______________________________________________________________________
If this was true, Russia would appear somewhat different from what it is
now - don't you think.
Eugene Holman
<0dafb49f-bc65-4ee4...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Mikhail Medved <mikhai...@mail.ru> wrote:
<dletions>
>
> Hmm. "Russia was able to recognize independence of South Ossetia and
> Ahkhazia because US was pre-occupied with elections and its
> administration was terminally impotent. Vietnam won the war because
> the US was pre-occupied with elections and its administration was
> terminally impotent. Cuba was able to oust the US puppet and repel
> invasion because the US was pre-occupied with elections and its
> administration was terminally impotent."
>
> That's a weak argument for a Cornell graduate. I would say it's a weak
> argument for anyone who studied history, don't you think?
No.
A major problem of the United States is that its governing circles spend
an extarordinary amount of time and energy preparing for the next
election, in addition to which the time between the elections and the
inauguration of the next administration is almost three months. This means
that the United States has protracted periods of self-imposed weakness
that other states can take advantage of.
The United States is and will be a creampuff for the next half year, at
least. When is the last time you heard anything from or about the
lame-duck president George W. Bush? No country with serious geopolitical
ambitions can fail to take this menstrual-cycle-like waxing and waning of
power and ability to focus into account. As to your case studies above, I
would say that American power, due to its political culture, is more
cyclical than that of many other countries, and countries desiring to
challenge the US certainly take this factor into account.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
Pēteris Cedriņš (Peteris Cedrins)
That is a factor, but aren't you leaving something out? American
foreign policy doesn't tend to change radically, and it won't. It may
well be that Johnny likes to bark too much, but Barack will probably
be able to bite better. Zbig is not exactly a Russophile. You
overestimate M and PMS, Eugene. There may be a slight loss of focus,
and that can indeed be taken advantage of, but no one could ever
expect a sea change.
Regards,
/P
martin
> In article
> <0dafb49f-bc65-4ee4-baa4-ca39cd359...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
I must have blinked and missed this "creampuff" period. The USA seemed
to have found a billion dollars in loose change to bail out Georgia,
sent in warships to deliver aid, signed a missile deal with Poland,
vowed to admit Georgia and Ukraine into NATO sooner than later and
called on NATO to being war planning and associated military exercises
to defend the Baltics. What would you have expected the USA to do
something else in its "non-creampuff" period?
Regards,
Martin
Eugene Holman
<df337d7c-351c-4a58...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, martin
<mart...@joymail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 7, 5:28=A0am, hol...@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:
> > The United States is and will be a creampuff for the next half year, at
> > least. When is the last time you heard anything from or about the
> > lame-duck president George W. Bush? No country with serious geopolitical
> > ambitions can fail to take this menstrual-cycle-like waxing and waning of
> > power and ability to focus into account. As to your case studies above, I
> > would say that American power, due to its political culture, is more
> > cyclical than that of many other countries, and countries desiring to
> > challenge the US certainly take this factor into account.
>
> I must have blinked and missed this "creampuff" period. The USA seemed
> to have found a billion dollars in loose change to bail out Georgia,
> sent in warships to deliver aid, signed a missile deal with Poland,
> vowed to admit Georgia and Ukraine into NATO sooner than later and
> called on NATO to being war planning and associated military exercises
> to defend the Baltics. What would you have expected the USA to do
> something else in its "non-creampuff" period?
Look at your verbs:
- found
- sent
- signed
- vowed
- called on
Finding a billion dollars, much of it to be spent on American munitions,
is no problem for the USA; in a pinch it can print them.
Sending the warships Coat Guard, not Navy to deliver aid was the right
thing to do, even if the fact that warships were used has provoked the
Russians, who have expressed their concern at the fact that these ships
are armed with state-of-the-art munitions
[http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gAa5fmFrSvKn0--5w11Uz2FRMpJAD92UPD1O0].
It has signed a missile deal with Poland, but that won't mean much until
the base is built, missiles are installed, and we see what Russia's
promised reaction will be.
It has vowed to admit Georgia and Ukraine sooner, rather than later, but
NATO is not an American monopoly; not all members are convinced that this
is a wise move, particularly as concerns Ukraine.
It has called on NATO to beef up Baltic defenses, once again at the
expense of provoking Russia, which grudgingly accepted the fact of Baltic
NATO membership on the implicit understanding that no foreign bases or
military equipment would be placed in the Baltics that would threaten
Russian security.
Most tellingly, you don't see the hand or hear the voice of [acting?]
President George W. Bush in any of this. Vice-President Dick Cheney and
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have been on the go, getting
photographed in all the right places and making pronouncements, but I fail
to see any policy corresponding to Russia's having drawn the line and
demonstrated what it is ready to do if it is crossed.
Prime Minister Putin has recently been seen pacifying a tiger with his
bare hands
[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00391/Put1Orig_391125a.jpg],
President Dmitry Medvedev has been extensively interviewed in the media
and has stated that Russia does not seek a new Cold war, but does not fear
one either, and Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov has also been
seen articulating and trying to justify Russia's actions. President George
W. Bush has been prominent by his absence and silence.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
vello
> President Dmitry Medvedev has been extensively interviewed in the media
> and has stated that Russia does not seek a new Cold war, but does not fear
> one either, and Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov has also been
> seen articulating and trying to justify Russia's actions. President George
> W. Bush has been prominent by his absence and silence.
>
> Regards,
Ukraine is a real problem with 50% population not sharing our values.
Other thing is Europe must define it's borders one day - and define
the word "Europe". But on other hand, is it for peace in Europe if a
guy with wiews like Putin will have Ukraine also? It will make Kremlin
much stronger - and at least as it sees for today they would for sure
use that "added value" for no good.
MTRP™
> Prime Minister Putin has recently been seen pacifying a tiger with his
> bare hands
> President Dmitry Medvedev has been extensively interviewed in the media
> and has stated that Russia does not seek a new Cold war, but does not fear
> one either
OK, even Dropoutski knows that PM Putin is the greatest on earth. OTOH
this makes his "liberal" Prez more dangerous than expected by Western
wishful thinkers. For both PM and Prez are short men with high
ambitions. USK morons are scared to death by PM "bonapartism" and try
to compensate the fear by talking aggressive nonsense to Prez. But
this can only force Prez to maintain a hard-line stance - maybe
sometimes against his sober inner voice. Besides Western leaders live
in the past. They keep looking for a new Hitler (there won't be any
for sure) and a new Cold War. The latter being thought of as old
famliar "safe heaven" - what a delusion! Russia was born much weaker
than ex-SU and therefore adopted Nuke First Doctrine (this was not the
case of ex-SU). So putting both points together a new Cold War might
be short and warm, and then all of a sudden very very hot ... actually
I'd like Putin back as Prez of Russia.
Anton
> "The Russian Intifada"?!
> "According to Bäckman Finns deliberately asked Hitler to destroy
> Leningrad [...] planned ethnic clensing [sic] in Karelia"?!
As the Finns advanced in eastern Carelia "non-nationals"¹ where put in
camps. At most there were almost 24 000 in those camps. 3 500 died. Most
of these camps were located in the Petroskoi (Petrozavodsk) region.
http://tinyurl.com/5svwyt
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%C3%A4-Karjalan_keskitysleirit ²
[Sorry, links are in Finnish only]
However as the Finns retreated from Petrozavodsk they gave two weeks
food supllies to the local population.
¹ = Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Moldovians, even Latvians
² = The picture is staged, but the individuals were real prisoners and
the barbed wire fence and the sign in Finnish and Russian is real.
--
Anton
Pēteris Cedriņš (Peteris Cedrins)
This fellow has quite the little propaganda mill. Posted for
educational purposes only:
Finnland/Estland/Russland/Hintergrund/CEE
"Estland in zehn Jahren Teil der Russischen Föderation"
Utl.: Finnischer Autor schockt Nachbarn mit provokantem Buch über
bevorstehenden Untergang des baltischen Landes =
Helsinki (APA) - Übernächste Woche erscheint in Tallinn ein neues Buch
über die Hintergründe und Auswirkungen der Ende April 2007 durch die
Verlegung eines aus der Sowjetzeit stammenden Kriegerdenkmals
ausgelösten Unruhen in Teilen Estlands. Die bevorstehende
Veröffentlichung hat in dem baltischen Land bereits für mediales
Aufsehen gesorgt, da der finnische Soziologe und Politikwissenschafter
Johan Bäckman darin nicht mit provokanten Thesen und Formulierungen
spart, die am offiziellen Selbstbild Estlands heftig rütteln. Die APA
traf Bäckman in Helsinki.
Bäckman spricht von "Apartheidpolitik" gegenüber der
russischsprachigen Minderheit des Landes und von "Russischer Intifada"
im Zusammenhang mit den großteils von Jugendlichen begangenen
Verwüstungen in Tallinner Stadtzentrum im Zuge des Abbaus des
umstrittenen Kriegerdenkmals vor eineinhalb Jahren. Seiner Meinung
nach war die erzwungene Verlegung des von der russischen Minderheit
als Befreiungssymbol von der Nazi-Herrschaft gesehenen
"Bronze-Soldaten" der entscheidende in einer Reihe von Fehlern
estnischer Regierungen, die innerhalb von zehn Jahren zum Verschwinden
Estlands von der politischen Landkarte führen werden.
Die Entfernung des Denkmals sei ein "die Russen demütigender und
beleidigender Akt des Staatsvandalismus" gewesen. "Man könnte sogar
von einer Art Terroranschlag auf die Wahrheit sprechen", so Bäckman.
Die russischsprachige Jugend habe heute mit Estland endgültig
abgeschlossen und identifiziere sich nicht mehr mit ihrem Heimatland.
Dies sei einzig und allein Schuld der nationalistischen estnischen
Politik. Der bereits einsetzende Zusammenbruch der Wirtschaft werde
sein übriges zum Untergang Estlands beitragen.
"Estland existiert schon jetzt nicht mehr", legt Bäckman noch ein
Schäuferl nach, "- nicht als demokratischer Staat". Der 37-jährige
Universitätsdozent verweist auf das Fehlen eines regelrechten
Gewaltmonopols in Estland sowie auf die mangelnde demokratische
Legitimität der Regierung durch das weiten Teilen der
russischsprachigen Bevölkerung (rund 25 Prozent der 1,3 Millionen
Esten) vorenthaltende Staatsbürgerschafts- und Wahlrecht.
Wo wird Estland seiner Prognose nach also in zehn Jahren sein? Bäckman
zögert nicht mit der verblüffenden Antwort: "Wahrscheinlich Teil der
Russischen Föderation." Die Europäische Union werde das ebenso wenig
verhindern können wie die NATO. Beide Bündnisse verlören bereits jetzt
jegliche Glaubwürdigkeit, wie sich jüngst angesichts der Krise in
Georgien gezeigt habe. Auf die Frage, ob ein Regierungswechsel in
Tallinn an dieser düsteren Prognose etwas ändern würde: "Das Regime
ist gewachsen und wird bleiben", zieht der Autor ein weiteres Mal eine
provozierende Wortwahl heran.
Bäckman sieht in der Vorherrschaft einer kleinen, nationalistisch
geprägten Elite, die das Land mit der falschen Politik in den
Untergang führt, Parallelen zu den 1930er Jahren, als das Land unter
Präsident Konstantin Päts, der nicht umsonst im heutigen Estland eine
unantastbare Ikone ist, autoritär regiert wurde. Der finnische
Historiker Martti Turtola hatte vor rund fünf Jahren in Estland mit
seiner - kritischen - Biografie über Päts in Estland ähnlich heftige
Reaktionen ausgelöst, wie jene, mit denen Bäckman durch sein Buch
jetzt konfrontiert ist.
Die estnische Presse, sowohl die estnisch- als auch die
russischsprachige, schreibe seit rund zwei Wochen über sein vorerst
nur auf Finnisch erscheinendes Buch. Er habe mittlerweile sogar
Todesdrohungen via E-Mail und Telefon erhalten und bei der Polizei um
einen Waffenschein angesucht, sagt Bäckman. Der Autor sieht sich
selbst als als akademischen und schriftstellerischen
"Experimentierer", dem es in erster Linie darum geht, eine Diskussion
über Estland zu entfachen. Das Buch "Pronssisoturi - Viron
patsaskiistan tausta ja sisältö" (Der Bronze-Soldat - Hintergrund und
Inhalt des estnischen Denkmalstreits) von Johan Bäckman erscheint am
22. September im estnischen Verlag Tarbeinfo. Ausgaben auf Estnisch,
Russisch und Englisch sind geplant.
Erkki Aalto
: This fellow has quite the little propaganda mill. Posted for
: educational purposes only:
: Finnland/Estland/Russland/Hintergrund/CEE
: "Estland in zehn Jahren Teil der Russischen Föderation"
: Utl.: Finnischer Autor schockt Nachbarn mit provokantem Buch über
: bevorstehenden Untergang des baltischen Landes =
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His blog:
http://pronssisoturi.blogspot.com/
I don't think he is playing with a full deck. I just wonder what Russia
is gaining from his books. They are mostly published in Finnish, and
only a handfull of people here is interested in them.
--
Erkki 'Örkki' Aalto "Life is divided up into
Internet: Erkki...@Helsinki.FI the horrible and the miserable"
Pēteris Cedriņš (Peteris Cedrins)
> P?teris Cedri?? (Peteris Cedrins) <cedr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : This fellow has quite the little propaganda mill. Posted for
> : educational purposes only:
>
> : Finnland/Estland/Russland/Hintergrund/CEE
>
> : "Estland in zehn Jahren Teil der Russischen Föderation"
>
> : Utl.: Finnischer Autor schockt Nachbarn mit provokantem Buch über
> : bevorstehenden Untergang des baltischen Landes =
> ---
>
> His blog:
>
> http://pronssisoturi.blogspot.com/
>
> I don't think he is playing with a full deck. I just wonder what Russia
> is gaining from his books. They are mostly published in Finnish, and
> only a handfull of people here is interested in them.
>
> --
> Erkki 'Örkki' Aalto "Life is divided up into
> Snail: Tietotekniikkaosasto, P.O. Box 64
> FI-00014 University of Helsinki, Finland
The book is being released in Estonia at the Tallinn military cemetery
(!) on September 22nd at 12.00, and there seem to be plans to publish
it in Estonian, Russian and English as well. As to what Russia gains
-- the delightful thing about Kremlin prop has always been how *bad*
it is. Even when they pull out all stops and coach their best English-
speakers, as they did for the "genocide" show in Ossetia, no
reasonable person not already in their camp could swallow the stuff. I
already quoted Auden's "August 1968":
The Ogre does what ogres can,
Deeds quite impossible for Man,
But one prize is beyond his reach,
The Ogre cannot master Speech.
About a subjugated plain,
Among its desperate and slain,
The Ogre stalks with hands on hips,
While drivel gushes from his lips.
Considering the fact that there are plenty of well-educated, talented
sympathizers the Kremlin could employ as spinmeisters -- and it does,
John Laughland now heading the "NGO" meant to teach the West about
democracy -- this remarkable inability to present Russia's views in an
appetizing way is nothing short of amazing.
Terveisin,
/P
J. Anderson
> I don't think he is playing with a full deck. I just wonder what Russia
> is gaining from his books. They are mostly published in Finnish, and
> only a handfull of people here is interested in them.
The Russians probably need him as a new Kuusinen/Quisling next time they
try liberating Finland.
Dmitry
> EU membership) has been left with nothing.
Ukraine has too many internal problems. Widespead corruption is one,
but the main is Crimea. About 90% there are proper ruskies, they
display Russian flags, they are against Ukrainian NATO membership and
want Russian navy to stay in Sevastopol' forever.