This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by Bacque!
It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war, tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
Now that more and more German survivors of the post-war genocide by the US and allies are no longer afraid to testify, perhaps they too will start demanding reparations for their torture, as did the filthy ZHIDS for the holohoax?
Rumour is that ZYD photographers used the pictures of dead and dying Germans in the Eisenhower death camps, as footage for their claims regarding ZYD concentration camps, for reparations!!
>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:44:49 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz ><ErnstZundho...@veritas.net> wrote: >>What an idiot. >>The poster stated that he was told about the incident AFTER the war, >>not that it happened after the war. >>On 14 Dec 2004 01:33:31 GMT, COL. RSJ <exterminato...@alltel.net> >>wrote: >>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:59:16 GMT, "Kurt Knoll" <menach...@monarch.net> >>>wrote: >>>>I knew an older German living her that was in Ike' camp about 35 years >>>>ago he told me the stories how he watched as they collected the death >>>>every morning. He said also only the strongest once did get extra food >>>>rationing to carry away the death. At one time the did stack up the >>>>death into a pile and a film grew form from America took pictures of it. >>>>He also said he has seen this film clip here in Canada latter on where >>>>it was portrayed as a sceene from the concentration camps. >>>So then, this all happened back in 1969. I could have sworn that WW2 >>>was long over by then. >>>>Kurt Knoll >>>>Kitimat B.C. Canada >>>>"Ernst Zundholtz" <ErnstZundho...@veritas.net> wrote in message >>>>news:1102955538.674ea702dd61a9f1ccb0b3a7dde7eba0@teranews... >>>>> On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch" <bartel...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >Kenneth McVay OBC wrote: >>>>> >> In article <1102789129.632939.294...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> >> Schorsch <bartel...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People >>>>> >> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>>>> >> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>>> >Was there one you wished to make?
>>>>> Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost >>>>> the following article...
>>>>> Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>>> Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada, >>>>> Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting >>>>> and car theft in California and Oregon, and still >>>>> unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the >>>>> Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a >>>>> diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all >>>>> his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts. >>>>> Here is the latest.......
>>>>> From: cms...@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe) >>>>> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe >>>>> Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps >>>>> Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>>> A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"
>>>>> By Martin Brech
>>>>> FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate >>>>> starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the >>>>> victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a >>>>> Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This >>>>> book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is >>>>> virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers >>>>> told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon >>>>> a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the >>>>> publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to >>>>> carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"
>>>>> Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his >>>>> January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>>> "Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW >>>>> camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German >>>>> POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying >>>>> at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross >>>>> food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the >>>>> docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau >>>>> and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,' >>>>> Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt, >>>>> who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General >>>>> Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough." >>>>> Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up >>>>> of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers >>>>> which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to >>>>> finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that >>>>> this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil", >>>>> cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then >>>>> put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for >>>>> redemption.
>>>>> In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a >>>>> student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of >>>>> the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I >>>>> was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France, >>>>> we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the >>>>> time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to >>>>> be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>>> By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in >>>>> Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn >>>>> placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I >>>>> then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat >>>>> units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record >>>>> states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during >>>>> which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter. >>>>> During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other >>>>> outfits also.
>>>>> In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW >>>>> camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school >>>>> German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was >>>>> forbidden.
>>>>> Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret >>>>> out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>>> In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from >>>>> very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open >>>>> field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate >>>>> enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no >>>>> tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate >>>>> numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men >>>>> lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet >>>>> spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>>> It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing >>>>> it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this >>>>> hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>>> Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches, >>>>> they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of >>>>> provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the >>>>> day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days >>>>> there was nothing.
>>>>> The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and >>>>> dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of >>>>> it momentarily.
>>>>> We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more >>>>> humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did >>>>> nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of: >>>>> hauled away to mass graves.
>>>>> My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I >>>>> was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they >>>>> explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer >>>>> would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he >>>>> felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The >>>>> term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>>> Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the >>>>> kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too >>>>> repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the >>>>> prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he >>>>> said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak >>>>> me some.
>>>>> When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was >>>>> caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and >>>>> one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a >>>>> bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain >>>>> on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
I know a guy who was in Eisenhowers Camp and he was telling me about some 25 years ago. I did not believe him because I did not know enough about it. In the community I live I he was a man with a straight forward reputation. Watch them now calling me and him liars. But then again discriminating demonizing and harassing other is the Holocaust industries way of live. I did buy James Bacque Book "Other loses and it is a real eye opener for everyone that is since and wants to compare both sides of a story. The ISBN Number for the book is 978-1-55168-191-7. For them anyone that critics or asking question about the Holocaust must be a Nazi. For me this guys are nothing others than a matter of simplicity. Kurt Knoll
> This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by > Bacque!
> It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war, > tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the > victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
> Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some > of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
> Now that more and more German survivors of the post-war genocide by > the US and allies are no longer afraid to testify, perhaps they too > will start demanding reparations for their torture, as did the filthy > ZHIDS for the holohoax?
> Rumour is that ZYD photographers used the pictures of dead and dying > Germans > in the Eisenhower death camps, as footage for their claims regarding ZYD > concentration camps, for reparations!!
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:44:49 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz >><ErnstZundho...@veritas.net> wrote: >>>What an idiot. >>>The poster stated that he was told about the incident AFTER the war, >>>not that it happened after the war.
>>>>>I knew an older German living her that was in Ike' camp about 35 years >>>>>ago he told me the stories how he watched as they collected the death >>>>>every morning. He said also only the strongest once did get extra food >>>>>rationing to carry away the death. At one time the did stack up the >>>>>death into a pile and a film grew form from America took pictures of >>>>>it. >>>>>He also said he has seen this film clip here in Canada latter on where >>>>>it was portrayed as a sceene from the concentration camps.
>>>>So then, this all happened back in 1969. I could have sworn that WW2 >>>>was long over by then.
>>>>>Kurt Knoll >>>>>Kitimat B.C. Canada
>>>>>"Ernst Zundholtz" <ErnstZundho...@veritas.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:1102955538.674ea702dd61a9f1ccb0b3a7dde7eba0@teranews... >>>>>> On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch" <bartel...@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >Kenneth McVay OBC wrote: >>>>>> >> In article >>>>>> >> <1102789129.632939.294...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> >> Schorsch <bartel...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People >>>>>> >> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>>>>> >> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>>>> >Was there one you wished to make?
>>>>>> Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost >>>>>> the following article...
>>>>>> Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>>>> Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada, >>>>>> Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting >>>>>> and car theft in California and Oregon, and still >>>>>> unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the >>>>>> Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a >>>>>> diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all >>>>>> his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts. >>>>>> Here is the latest.......
>>>>>> From: cms...@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe) >>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe >>>>>> Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps >>>>>> Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>>>> A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"
>>>>>> By Martin Brech
>>>>>> FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate >>>>>> starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the >>>>>> victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a >>>>>> Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This >>>>>> book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is >>>>>> virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers >>>>>> told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon >>>>>> a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the >>>>>> publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to >>>>>> carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"
>>>>>> Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his >>>>>> January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>>>> "Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW >>>>>> camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German >>>>>> POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were >>>>>> dying >>>>>> at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross >>>>>> food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the >>>>>> docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau >>>>>> and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,' >>>>>> Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British >>>>>> felt, >>>>>> who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General >>>>>> Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough." >>>>>> Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up >>>>>> of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several >>>>>> newspapers >>>>>> which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to >>>>>> finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that >>>>>> this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil", >>>>>> cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then >>>>>> put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for >>>>>> redemption.
>>>>>> In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a >>>>>> student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of >>>>>> the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I >>>>>> was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France, >>>>>> we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the >>>>>> time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to >>>>>> be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>>>> By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in >>>>>> Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn >>>>>> placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I >>>>>> then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because >>>>>> non-combat >>>>>> units were generally not respected. My separation qualification >>>>>> record >>>>>> states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during >>>>>> which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter. >>>>>> During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other >>>>>> outfits also.
>>>>>> In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW >>>>>> camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school >>>>>> German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was >>>>>> forbidden.
>>>>>> Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret >>>>>> out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>>>> In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age >>>>>> from >>>>>> very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open >>>>>> field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate >>>>>> enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no >>>>>> tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate >>>>>> numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men >>>>>> lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet >>>>>> spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>>>> It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes >>>>>> throwing >>>>>> it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this >>>>>> hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>>>> Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches, >>>>>> they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of >>>>>> provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for >>>>>> the >>>>>> day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days >>>>>> there was nothing.
>>>>>> The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and >>>>>> dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think >>>>>> of >>>>>> it momentarily.
>>>>>> We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more >>>>>> humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did >>>>>> nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of: >>>>>> hauled away to mass graves.
>>>>>> My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I >>>>>> was met with
In article <VejWj.136915$Cj7.70469@pd7urf2no>, The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll, the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote: >I know a guy who was in Eisenhowers Camp and he was telling me about some 25 >years ago. I did not believe him because I did not know enough about it. In
No, you do not "know a guy," you're knolling.
YOU have yet to prove that reporters or photographers carried "5 or 6" striped inmate uniforms from concentration camp to concentration camp just to photograph people wearing them.
YOU have yet to prove that (1) human fat will not combust, and (2) contribute to the heat of the cremation process.
YOU have failed to prove the existence of a single "Eisenhower death camp," and you have ignored the fact that the German Government itself has said that Bacque's assertions about hundreds of thousands of German soldiers being deliberately starved to death is absolute rubbish.
YOU have failed to document that concentration camp guards - ANY concentration camp guards - were ever placed under any sort of "gag order" by anyone, nor have you been able to produce this alleged "gag order," or point to any archive, anywhere in the world, where it might be found.
YOU have failed to prove your incredibly stupid assertion that 45,000 people died during the bombing of Nurnberg.
YOU have failed to prove your bizarre assertion that someone, somewhere, said that the Germans killed prisoners at Mauthausen as soon as they arrived by train.
YOU have yet to show which clause of the Versailles Treaty, exactly, prohibits the construction of Polish military installations along the Polish Corridor, even though you claim such a prohibition exists within the treaty.
YOU have failed to produce any "agreement" between the Allies and the post-war German government that banned "butting" the Allies in "a bad light."
YOU have not contacted European universities to determine whether or not materials you claim are "banned" are available.
YOU have not documented a single law that banned publication of newspapers printed between 1918 and 1939.
YOU have not contacted the IFZ to ask them to document their claim about gassings at Dachau.
YOU cannot produce a shred of documentation proving that a plaque exists outside the Dachau camp which states that no one was ever gassed there.
YOU have not documented a single law which bans "discussion of the Holocaust," or "asking questions about the Holocaust."
THAT is why your claim that you are here to "find out the truth" is so easily revealed as a blatant lie.
YOU have not documented or identified a single law which forbids "dissection" of Holocaust historiography.
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:31:34 -0700, in soc.culture.jewish J Young > <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
-Usual Grosvenor racist crap snipped.
> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a > victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance > of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS. > May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
Bullshit, you are just posting your racist crap.
> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH > for many years around the world.
You are posting in memory of yourself? What a loon.
You aren't fooling anyone Grosvenor. Everyone knows you are the one posting this racist shit from your home in northeast Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
