Nazi suspects in Aussie
peter terry
A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected Nazis
were living in Australia.
The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
PeterT
Peter Hodges
As I understand it, although they have made the accusation that 22
ex-Nazi's are hiding in Australia, they have not formally presented
the Federal Government with evidence to back the claim.
I have to ask:
1. Where is the evidence?
2. Why did they wait so long until they made these accusatuions; some
of the accused could well have died of old age in the meantime.
Having said that, if they can produce the evidence then these people
should be tried in court, and if found guilty they should be
imprisoned for the rest of their lies; just because these war crimes
or "crimes against humanity" occurred nearly half a century ago
doessn't mean that they should be allowed to get away with it.
The arguement that these war criminals are too old and frail to face
trial cuts no ice with me; after all, being old and frail didn't
exempt anyone at Auschwitz, did it?
Peter.
Ned Latham
More political drivel. Not relevant to the culture groups.
Piss off, troll.
----snip----
Ned
--
To reply, cut out my nose * Democracy means "the people rule". *
and make the met a net. * Fight for the power of assent. *
Tipper
"peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
You are both unbalanced, obsessed by Naziism, (Look up the concept of
Projection), you are both on Disability Support Pensions and a waste of
space.
I hope you both know that WE are closing in on the two of you?
Look under your bed, check out your power point outlets, you never know
where WE might be!!!
Just remember WE wear white coats.
--
"Let's get rid of Infirmary Feminism, with it's bedlam of bellyachers,
anorexics, bulimics, depressives, rape victims, and incest survivors.
Feminism has become a catch-all vegetable drawer where bunches of clingy sob
sisters can store their mouldy neuroses." Camila Paglia. (Vamps & Tramps,)
>
francispoon
FP
> PeterT
fasgnadh
> "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> >
> > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up
> > to 22 suspected Nazis were living in Australia.
> >
> > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
I heard their claim that alone among Western nations which received
post-war Nazi's, Australia is the only one not to have had a
succesful legal action. Asked why he replied "Lack of political
will in Canberra"
Now Howard has never been one to maintain standards of decency,
he always covered up for his ministers, never took tough action
to maintain standards, panders to moral defectives like
Hollingsworthless, and is happy to use the defence forces and lie
to the Australian people for cheap and devious political gain.
But why the softness toward Nazi's? (Apart from the obvious
similarity of political viewpoints, and shared penchant for
putting ethnic groups in gulags?) Perhaps, as with Hanson,
he finds them useful?
> >
> > PeterT
> >
> Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
Why is it that the mindless character assasins of the right always resort
to hateful personal abuse, unadulterated with any substance or reason?
Is it the alienation and bitter resentment that festers from the
acknowledged fact that they work in unworthy jobs for little money,
long hours, doing things which no moral being could take pride in
(selling shit for inflated prices), contributing to social evils,
health costs to thewhole of society, and being patronised by
those parasites, like Hillard, who prosper from such anti-social
exploitatitive activities.
It clearly is a driving force in your self-hatred, and as with the
Germans in the 1930's, that quickly leads to envy and hatred of others.
No wonder then, your knee jeck reaction to defend Nazi's, and
attack those who, unlike you, know that the price of liberty is
eternal vigilance.
"Fascism never wears the same uniform trice"
While you ar looking for Swastikas and butch Leather jackets,
you may be suprised to find them in uniforms with Yellow Arch
insignia, encouraging conformist thinking and behaviour in pursuit
of socially destructive goals, ruining childrens health,
creating drones with idiot marketing grins "Eat more Shit!
would you like some Puke with your Excrement?"
Oh well, you will probably remain in subservience to something
you KNOW to be unworty, because Hillard and the other string
pullers have you convinced "Work Makes Free" B^p
And you cant think for yourself "doesn't the kind of work, its
purpose and outcome, matter?"
> You are both unbalanced, obsessed by Naziism,
Thanks for the benefit of your experience and wisdom, Nev Chamberlain.
> (Look up the concept of
> Projection), you are both on Disability Support Pensions and a waste of
> space.
B^D Vat Next Mein Herre? Final Solution for those YOU
identify as disabled. 8^o
Fucking Nazi twonk!
> I hope you both know that WE are closing in on the two of you?
Oh shit, it's joined Ned Latham and Muttley in cyberstalking
those it can't defeat in open debate!
Why do the tories ALWAYS end up following Muttley's intellectual lead?
> Look under your bed, check out your power point outlets, you never know
> where WE might be!!!
You confuse not knowing with not caring, you once again demonstrate
you have NOTHING to add to the substantive dbate but dreary ad hom.
> Just remember WE wear white coats.
Only if the doctors find you naked in the asylum grounds again.
No wonder you are stuck in the modern equivalent of a
workhouse, you clearly lack the intellect for one of the
declining number of real jobs!
peter terry
> news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> >
> > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> Nazis
> > were living in Australia.
> >
> > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> >
> > PeterT
> >
> Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
>
peter terry
"francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
don't expect your traditional Hitler fucker because the new breed of neo
Nazism is better reflected within the values of so many of the principal
players we find within the Coalition.
PeterT
> FP
>
> > PeterT
Seppo Renfors
Oh for christ sake Terry, that stuff is so OLD it has MOSS[ad] growing
on it. Yes we have had a few Nazi's here. The cases are now COLD, and
insufficient evidence exists to convict anyone now. Besides some old
bastard at 80+ is hardly worth spending multi millions on just to have
it turfed out of court! We already spent 19 million on one case to
have it dismissed - the old codger died since then of natural causes
anyway!!
Grow up and use your brain!
--
SIR -Philosopher Unauthorised
------------------------------------------------------------------
" Don't resent getting old. A great many are denied that privilege "
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Seppo Renfors
Tipper wrote:
>
> "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> >
> > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> Nazis
> > were living in Australia.
> >
> > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> >
> > PeterT
> >
> Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
Ahhhhh.... POOOOOOOOR Tiddler, still SMARTING for having had his
"intelligence" exposed :-)
Seppo Renfors
WE are not like the NAZIS!!
I think it is time to GIVE UP wasting time to hound old farts who may
or many not be "war criminals". You'll never get a conviction on them
in any event. It wastes money and resources nothing more. Forget the
old farts - concentrate on the NEW rise of Nazism instead, they are NO
BETTER, only thing they lack is the opportunity to be like the war
criminals! Bernard, the Unenlightened openly admits to being a Nazi
and openly advocates Ethnic Cleansing!!! THAT's the kind that should
be locked up and the key thrown away!!
Ned Latham
in <9617651d.02053...@posting.google.com>:
> "Tipper" wrote:
----snip----
> > I hope you both know that WE are closing in on the two of you?
> * Look under your bed, check out your power point outlets, you never
> * know where WE might be!!!
> * Just remember WE wear white coats.
(Text restored to show up the dishonesty of the "response".)
> Oh shit, it's joined Ned Latham and Muttley in cyberstalking
> those it can't defeat in open debate!
ROTFL! Guano thinks his insane ranting is debate!
peter terry
"Seppo Renfors" <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message
news:3CF8BC62...@not.olles.com.au...
>
>
> peter terry wrote:
> >
> > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
Nazis
> > were living in Australia.
> >
> > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> >
>
> Oh for christ sake Terry, that stuff is so OLD it has MOSS[ad] growing
> on it. Yes we have had a few Nazi's here. The cases are now COLD, and
> insufficient evidence exists to convict anyone now. Besides some old
> bastard at 80+ is hardly worth spending multi millions on just to have
> it turfed out of court! We already spent 19 million on one case to
> have it dismissed - the old codger died since then of natural causes
> anyway!!
>
> Grow up and use your brain!
>
issue was raised last week by the Wiesenthal Centre and while you might be a
closet nationalist, it's fundamentally important because it has a direct
link to current Nazism which is loosely tied up with the extreme right who
presently rule this country along with their corporate controllers.
PeterT
Tipper
>
>
> Tipper wrote:
> >
> > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > >
> > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> > Nazis
> > > were living in Australia.
> > >
> > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in
auxiliary
> > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> > >
> > > PeterT
> > >
> > Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
>
> Ahhhhh.... POOOOOOOOR Tiddler, still SMARTING for having had his
> "intelligence" exposed :-)
>
>
What intelligence Arsewipe?
Tipper
Perhaps you are delusional?
>
> > >
> > > PeterT
> > >
> > Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
fasgnadh here dons his rodeo clown outfit, and tries to deflect attention
away from those two misfits Peter T and Seppo Renfors.
Won't work fasgnadh.
>
> Why is it that the mindless character assasins of the right always resort
> to hateful personal abuse, unadulterated with any substance or reason?
>
> Is it the alienation and bitter resentment that festers from the
> acknowledged fact that they work in unworthy jobs for little money,
> long hours, doing things which no moral being could take pride in
> (selling shit for inflated prices), contributing to social evils,
> health costs to thewhole of society, and being patronised by
> those parasites, like Hillard, who prosper from such anti-social
> exploitatitive activities.
>
> It clearly is a driving force in your self-hatred, and as with the
> Germans in the 1930's, that quickly leads to envy and hatred of others.
> No wonder then, your knee jeck reaction to defend Nazi's, and
> attack those who, unlike you, know that the price of liberty is
> eternal vigilance.
Nice try clown, doesn't cut the mustard though.
>
> "Fascism never wears the same uniform trice"
Says who?
>
> While you ar looking for Swastikas and butch Leather jackets,
> you may be suprised to find them in uniforms with Yellow Arch
> insignia,
Maccas are now a Nazi mob?
(God I dont think I can take much more of this, without cracking up with
laughter.)
>encouraging conformist thinking and behaviour in pursuit
> of socially destructive goals, ruining childrens health,
> creating drones with idiot marketing grins "Eat more Shit!
> would you like some Puke with your Excrement?"
Nothing like a good dump, feel better?
>
> Oh well, you will probably remain in subservience to something
> you KNOW to be unworty, because Hillard and the other string
> pullers have you convinced "Work Makes Free" B^p
>
> And you cant think for yourself "doesn't the kind of work, its
> purpose and outcome, matter?"
>
> > You are both unbalanced, obsessed by Naziism,
>
> Thanks for the benefit of your experience and wisdom, Nev Chamberlain.
>
> > (Look up the concept of
> > Projection), you are both on Disability Support Pensions and a waste of
> > space.
>
> B^D Vat Next Mein Herre? Final Solution for those YOU
> identify as disabled. 8^o
>
> Fucking Nazi twonk!
Oh come on now, who shit in you wheeties to make you so upset?
>
> > I hope you both know that WE are closing in on the two of you?
>
> Oh shit, it's joined Ned Latham and Muttley in cyberstalking
> those it can't defeat in open debate!
>
> Why do the tories ALWAYS end up following Muttley's intellectual lead?
>
> > Look under your bed, check out your power point outlets, you never know
> > where WE might be!!!
>
> You confuse not knowing with not caring, you once again demonstrate
> you have NOTHING to add to the substantive dbate but dreary ad hom.
Dreary ad hom?
>
> > Just remember WE wear white coats.
>
> Only if the doctors find you naked in the asylum grounds again.
>
> No wonder you are stuck in the modern equivalent of a
> workhouse, you clearly lack the intellect for one of the
> declining number of real jobs!
Who was just on about dreary ad hom?
rhtreh
Let's get a few priorities sorted here first. The weisenthal centre
is a jewish outfit. Hardly an unbiased organisation in the matters of
ALLEGED EX-Nazis. Now, when was the last time this hatefull bunch of
jews actually found an retired World War II Nazi and had him/her
arrested, tried and convicted of being an alleged Nazi?
When was the most recent event of any significance?
Its bullshit, ALL BULLSHIT. Just a bunch of idle well-moneyed lay
about jews who refuse to let the past be and get on with their future.
What a bunch of dried out weazels they are at the weisenthal centre,
spending all day looking for a person to hunt down and harass, no
evidence, just their say-so.
SKD
Ruddock and his Department would be a good place to start the search.
Seppo Renfors
So now I'm a "closet Nazi" eh? Well, I suppose it makes a change from
being called a "leftie" by Nazis!
I think you need to take a few reality pills!!
This is OLD stuff regurgitated for the umpteenth time. WWII is over
and done with - FINISHED. The Israelis need to give up on this ghost
chase too. As do you. But then there IS another reason to keep it up.
It is to keep up the anger and fear in the Israeli people - to justify
their expansionist activities. Quite frankly aren't the Israelis doing
much the same to the Palestinians, as has been done to them?
The Holocaust and the wrongs done to the Jews during WWII by the
Nazi's (and others) does not justify their current atrocities toward
the Palestinians. Chasing ghosts doesn't prevent the rise of Nazism -
it is taking the eye off the ball in fact.
Seppo Renfors
Tipper wrote:
>
> "Seppo Renfors" <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3CF8BCED...@not.olles.com.au...
> >
> >
> > Tipper wrote:
> > >
> > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > > >
> > > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> > > Nazis
> > > > were living in Australia.
> > > >
> > > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in
> auxiliary
> > > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> > > >
> > > > PeterT
> > > >
> > > Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
> >
> > Ahhhhh.... POOOOOOOOR Tiddler, still SMARTING for having had his
> > "intelligence" exposed :-)
> >
> >
>
> What intelligence Arsewipe?
>
EXACTLY :-)
Tipper
>
>
> Tipper wrote:
> >
> > "Seppo Renfors" <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:3CF8BCED...@not.olles.com.au...
> > >
> > >
> > > Tipper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > news:3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > > > >
> > > > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22
suspected
> > > > Nazis
> > > > > were living in Australia.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in
> > auxiliary
> > > > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW
II.
> > > > >
> > > > > PeterT
> > > > >
> > > > Why don't you and that lunatic Seppo Renfors go to bed together?.
> > >
> > > Ahhhhh.... POOOOOOOOR Tiddler, still SMARTING for having had his
> > > "intelligence" exposed :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > What intelligence Arsewipe?
> >
>
> EXACTLY :-)
> You've lost it Seppo. (Seppo: the finnish word for "smelly stuff that
comes out of a reindeer arse")
The Enlightenment
Bare Faced Lieing pig-offal!
Not that I need concern myself; your reputation as a hyperbolic
lunatic is well known!
Indeed if one gives an example of where multiculturlaism has
degenerated to warfare and ethnic cleansing he regards it as "Nazi"
for pointing that out as a natural outcome of his fanatical ideology.
Indeed in Seeppos Nazi effected brain: (Disagree with Seeppo) = (Nazi)
The fact is that Seppo Renffors is a dangerouse Fringe Extremist, no
better than the assasin of Pim Furtuyn and certainly equaly as insane
and obsessive. Seppo can't debate, admires Peter Terry whom he
characterises as "honest" and whenever he doesn't get his way he
resorts to invokeing the Nazi's and the KKK. He is an fanatic
Australophobe who uses manic "diversity" as a vehicle for his hate
vendetta. A viscious little poop.
You are well known in this NG as insane.
THAT's the kind that should
> be locked up and the key thrown away!!
Obsessive-Compulsive dangers to the community like Seeppo Ranttors?
I heard Finns often died of anal cancer or heart attacks by 50 so you
should find time take care of yourself.
In your case I also advise lithium supplementation.
francispoon
Oh, I am sure. Just read over some of the posts and you will know
that Oz is now the heaven for Nazis intellectuals. Nevertheless, it
is our job to help them out so that they would rather end up being
mistaken than being evil.
FP >
> PeterT
>
>
> > FP
> >
> > > PeterT
The Enlightenment
> "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:<3cf87fbc$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > "francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
> > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:<3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> Nazis
> > > > were living in Australia.
> > > >
> > > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> > > >
> > > Ask these Nazis to come to this ng so that they will get an education.
> > >
> > Heck mate hang around a little...this NG is full of the bastards..... And
> > don't expect your traditional Hitler fucker because the new breed of neo
> > Nazism is better reflected within the values of so many of the principal
> > players we find within the Coalition.
>
> Oh, I am sure. Just read over some of the posts and you will know
> that Oz is now the heaven for Nazis intellectuals.
Nazism died in a bunker in May 1945!
> Nevertheless, it
> is our job to help them out so that they would rather end up being
> mistaken than being evil.
At this point, while i have no scorn for you, especialy as you are
still commited to reason I consider you as an ethnic activist who has
benefited from the new world order and promotes it so.
The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi. Such groups
simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
internationalism. Have you ever read any of my URLs. I bet not.
Here is one well documented ethnic groups influence:
http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm there are others.
The fact that politicians must fall ass over tit mau mauing with some
realy very ethnocentric ethnic leaders and feel compelled to get
involved in distatestefull parochial debates eg as to whether
Alexander the Great was "Macedonain" or "Greek" tells us how
fragmented we have become. (We honestly had this debate: and though
Cleopatra & Alexander were both Macedonian the politicians came to the
side of the Greeks: where the votes were)
Have you ever read Peter Terry's and Seppo Renffors posts?
Consistantly they are without doubt vile, obsessive, anti-western,
Australophobes. Insane inane nihilists that deny the existence of a
distinct western culture. Spitefull biggots that promote mass
immigration and fanatic radical diversity in pursuit of their soite.
Both immigrats, both mavericks, both misanthrops that vicariously
crusade through the internet.
Nationalism is merely a natural response to these clowns a healthy
affirmation. A neo-western ethnic consciounsess is merely a natural
response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops. (A Finn and a
NZealander of unknown parentage and unfortunately confused racial
composition).
We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
their loud voices? while they pour shit and scorn on our culture and
civilization? While they run immigration programs twice as large as
they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
with ad hominem and polical correctness?
My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
across that sort of scum. I saw what dersion vomited forth on
ordinary austrlains and what little care or love they had they are
more concerend with their own sophistry. Before that I'd travelled in
asia, maintain friends there; and some years ago I dated 2 asian girls
as I would a white. I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
Seppo and Peter are beyond the pall.
Andrew Wolbrink
Hiding throughout the public domain via the mass media as well as
alternative publications and over the internet - it is ALL just the
tip of the iceberg - of what is going on.
I think the key term in the above description is "ente uruguayo, Jorge
Batlle, regresó a su país el martes después de pedir disculpas entre
lágrimas a su par argentino, Eduardo Duhalde "
The double boubble description is certainly secret !
Andrew Wolbrink
zaharoff
<andrew_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Illuminati are watching even as you type.
No we're not :-)
Z.
zaharoff
Enlightenment) wrote:
If the Simon Weisenthal mob are serious about war criminals
why not go for one who's Prime Minister of Israel.
Goes by the name of Sharon.
Z.
Andrew Wolbrink
Oh Holly Illuminatus,
spare me !
I have sinned !
However, I promise to sacrifice all unbeleivers to you .
Must sharpen my knife.....
Mutter..mutter..
Andrew Wolbrink
>> I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
>> going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
Sitting next to woman not safe.
Very powerful magic.
See now your friend has become gay.
Very soon, your penis will shrivell and fall off....
francispoon
You are NOT reading properly.
(1)Having an education on Nazis and their ideology especially in their
attitude towards racial superiority does NOT justify the efforts by
"various ethnic groups to promote ideology and self-interests" that
are "anti-thical" to the nation of Australia.
(2)In order to prove the plots taken by various ethnic groups as
described in your statement above, you need to define(a)the kind of
interests and ideology they promote and (b)define the national
interests of a nation named Australia and (c)show how (a) conflicts
againt (b).
FP
The Enlightenment
No doubt you speak from bitter personal experience.
Ned Latham
> "The Enlightenment" wrote (in reply to "francispoon"):
> *
> * At this point, while i have no scorn for you, especialy as you are
> * still commited to reason I consider you as an ethnic activist who has
> * benefited from the new world order and promotes it so.
> *
> * The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> * groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> * antithetical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi. Such groups
> * simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
> * internationalism. Have you ever read any of my URLs. I bet not.
> * Here is one well documented ethnic groups influence:
> * http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm there are others.
> * The fact that politicians must fall ass over tit mau mauing with some
> * realy very ethnocentric ethnic leaders and feel compelled to get
> * involved in distatestefull parochial debates eg as to whether
> * Alexander the Great was "Macedonain" or "Greek" tells us how
> * fragmented we have become. (We honestly had this debate: and though
> * Cleopatra & Alexander were both Macedonian the politicians came to the
> * side of the Greeks: where the votes were)
> *
> * Have you ever read Peter Terry's and Seppo Renffors posts?
> * Consistantly they are without doubt vile, obsessive, anti-western,
> * Australophobes. Insane inane nihilists that deny the existence of a
> * distinct western culture. Spiteful bigots that promote mass
> * immigration and fanatic radical diversity in pursuit of their soite.
> * Both immigrants, both mavericks, both misanthrops that vicariously
> * crusade through the internet.
> *
> * Nationalism is merely a natural response to these clowns a healthy
> * affirmation. A neo-western ethnic consciounsess is merely a natural
> * response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops. (A Finn and a
> * NZealander of unknown parentage and unfortunately confused racial
> * composition).
> *
> * We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
> * their loud voices? while they pour shit and scorn on our culture and
> * civilization? While they run immigration programs twice as large as
> * they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
> * with ad hominem and polical correctness?
> *
> * My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
> * across that sort of scum. I saw what dersion vomited forth on
> * ordinary austrlains and what little care or love they had they are
> * more concerend with their own sophistry. Before that I'd travelled in
> * asia, maintain friends there; and some years ago I dated 2 asian girls
> * as I would a white. I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
> * going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
> *
> * Seppo and Peter are beyond the pale.
(Text that poor little Flossy can't handle restored.)
> While you are entitled to your view spitting the dummy does in no way
> reinforce your argument.
You're pathetic, "peter". Accusing others of your own nasty little habits
might convince mental midgets like yourself, but no-one with more than
half a brain will be taken in by it. You're just projecting, and it's
obvious.
> You are a classic redneck and neo Nazi bigot...a well known racist and
> moron
Wrong again, moron. You don't even know what the terms mean.
> who needs to clearly understand that Australia is a multi cultural
The word you're looking for is "multicultured".
> society and in spite of the likes of you and the present Govt, we will
> remain as such.
You can substantiate that idiotic accusation?
Oops. No, you can't.
> My suggestion to you who is continually advocating a Stalanist type
> mono-cultural society,
There's no such thing, you cretin. The USSR was monopartisan, not
monocultural.
> is to move to Fiji
No need. We're being balkanized here and now.
> or China.
You don't know much about the world's most populous nation, do you?
> F.O. Nazi boy!
Wipe your chin, brat, and try to find out what the terms you use
actually mean.
Scott Hillard
> Illuminati are watching even as you type.
Ewig blumenkraft!
Ewig Schlangenkraft!
Andrew Wolbrink
Yes, I carry my penis in a little leather bag around my neck.
francispoon
Have you ever read any of my URLs. I bet not.
> Here is one well documented ethnic groups influence:
> http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm
Well, Mr. Enlightenment, don't say that I have not lent you my ears.
I took the time to glance through this site and read about what you
'might' have termed 'Jewish conspiracy'.
There is no question that the Jews are very influential in many areas
in the domestic life of the Americans, but so are other ethnic groups
too. I am in the financial investment business and I know for sure
that during the Jewish holidy, the market in NY is usually very quiet.
That being said, I would like to ponder over some of the issues as
follows:
(1)Within the framework of this particular time segment, the Jews may
be the most influential in the financial world and thus their
influence on the US government very powerful, and that they have
powerful lobbying interests in the White House. However, that does
not mean other ethnic groups such as the Chinese or Japanese may not
have even more powerful influence in the US government someday in the
future. The Taiwan government, for example, has tremendous support
among the right-wing Christians in the US who are willing to risk
military confrontation with the PRC in a way not any less glamorous
than the US support for Isreal.
(2)Hollywood used to highlight the influence of white Europeans and
their cultures excessively at the expenses of the colored people and
their cultures. That I don't think is in the interests of the Jews to
have done so. Thus if Hollywood as you claimed is in the hands of the
Jews, then the Jews must have done the white Christians a favor by
placing the non-white below the white. Either the Jews made a mistake
or the white Europeans did this by themselves.
(3) I see no evidence from the site that the Jews are behind the open
door policy for immigration. I think many others whose interets are
well served would have advocated that, and their interests are not
necessarily in the destruction of the white christian culture. The
motivating force is in economic. The media have supported cultural
pluralism, I agree, but have in no way made any moral comparison
between culturally pluralistic society as opposed to one that is
homogeneously "Christian culture made up mainly of white non-Jews".
The media have not made any value judgement on such a phenomenon.
(4)It is true that the Jews throughout the entire history of mankind
have not _necessarily_ suffered more than other ethnic groups but
their suffering seems to have been highlighted the most, and it is
also true that the Jews might have highlighted their suffering using
the media they have controlled in order to pedal influence and support
for Isreal. But it is equally true that such a move is in line with
the geo-political interests of the US of A as a world power. Thus the
Jewish interests and the national interests of the US may just happen
to meet here. But that does not necessarily imply the Jews are
conducting the national interests and thus the foreign policies of the
US.
I can go on but am running short of time. In short, I think it is the
economic forces in the global village that have caused all that
migration of people. To assign such a move as a Jewish plot to bury
the white christian culture seems to be a bit far-fetched.
FP
peter terry
indefinitely so for goodness sakes don't put any more ideas into his tiny
little brain.
Likely scenario from Enl. that all immigrants must be identified by carrying
penis in leather bag around neck.
The Enlightenment
Are you the guy that wrote that pop song about the Man with the
Detachable Penis? Horrifying tale, I thought he'd never find it
again. I was so worried.
The Enlightenment
Are you they guy that wrote that pop song about the Man with the
The Enlightenment
Are you the guy that wrote that pop song about the Man with the
Seppo Renfors
STOP TALKING TO YOUR MIRROR!
I quote the following from:
<3CF853DA...@not.olles.com.au>
SIR said:
> > To suggest that "balkanization is an inevitable outcome of
> > multi-culturalism" is to say "We will have to do ETHNIC CLEANSING of
> > our own" - that is a NAZI IDEAL, and is exactly what they attempted
> > with the JEWS. YOU now claim to want to do the same!!
>
> I assert it!
[end quote]
YOU SAY: "I assert it"!!!
"assert": verb [reporting verb] state a fact or belief confidently and
forcefully.
There we are, absolutely clear. It is cut and dried! You have openly
and FORCEFULLY stated you are proposing ETHNIC CLEANSING!!
> Not that I need concern myself; your reputation as a hyperbolic
> lunatic is well known!
It is such that when I accuse someone, it can be relied on to be
accurate - else I wouldn't make the accusation.
> Indeed if one gives an example of where multiculturlaism has
> degenerated to warfare and ethnic cleansing he regards it as "Nazi"
> for pointing that out as a natural outcome of his fanatical ideology.
>
> Indeed in Seeppos Nazi effected brain: (Disagree with Seeppo) = (Nazi)
>
> The fact is that Seppo Renffors is a dangerouse Fringe Extremist, no
> better than the assasin of Pim Furtuyn and certainly equaly as insane
> and obsessive. Seppo can't debate, admires Peter Terry whom he
> characterises as "honest" and whenever he doesn't get his way he
> resorts to invokeing the Nazi's and the KKK. He is an fanatic
> Australophobe who uses manic "diversity" as a vehicle for his hate
> vendetta. A viscious little poop.
>
> You are well known in this NG as insane.
Have you quite finished frothing at the mouth like an insane rabid dog
yet?? I have shown you for what you are, nothing more! But lets have
another look at what you yourself claim to be:
<3CEE5A54...@not.olles.com.au>
SIR said:
> > ..... or the one in Adelaide in the last few days, hmmm? That too was
> > "the left" who murdered that poor harmless "poof"? That is all he was
> > too -harmless, but homosexual. I only know of NAZI types who go out
> > "poofta bashing" as a bit of "sport"!
>
The Unenlightened replied:
> How sad are you Seeppo; you know this isn't true. Cynic that you are
> you've just set up a strawman to demonize the right and me at the
> expense of Gay people.
SIR thanks the Nazi:
Thank you for finally admitting to being a NAZI. Not that it has been
a secret, mind you :-)
[end quote]
Well there is no mistaking that either!! You self identify as a NAZI -
and have at a few other times as well. So nothing I said about you was
UNTRUE!
Oh, and I don't "create" murders you know, as you accuse me of! It was
a factual report of an actual event.
> THAT's the kind that should
> > be locked up and the key thrown away!!
>
> Obsessive-Compulsive dangers to the community like Seeppo Ranttors?
>
> I heard Finns often died of anal cancer or heart attacks by 50 so you
> should find time take care of yourself.
AGAIN I see you resort to racism in order to vilify - you just can't
help yourself, can you. A compulsive racist is what you are - nothing
surer. Perhaps a bit of electric shock therapy would help you.....
like a few thousand volts with a healthy dose of amps to go with it...
> In your case I also advise lithium supplementation.
...and you need a personality transplant! Or even better, transplant
yourself to a corner of the world were Nazi's are desired.....
Zimbabwe is a good place!
Seppo Renfors
The Enlightenment wrote:
>
> fyf...@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in message news:<936eaee8.02060...@posting.google.com>...
> > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:<3cf87fbc$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > "francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
> > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:<3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> > Nazis
> > > > > were living in Australia.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > > > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> > > > >
> > > > Ask these Nazis to come to this ng so that they will get an education.
> > > >
> > > Heck mate hang around a little...this NG is full of the bastards..... And
> > > don't expect your traditional Hitler fucker because the new breed of neo
> > > Nazism is better reflected within the values of so many of the principal
> > > players we find within the Coalition.
> >
> > Oh, I am sure. Just read over some of the posts and you will know
> > that Oz is now the heaven for Nazis intellectuals.
>
> Nazism died in a bunker in May 1945!
... eerrrr..... are you claiming to be a GHOST??
>
> > Nevertheless, it
> > is our job to help them out so that they would rather end up being
> > mistaken than being evil.
>
> At this point, while i have no scorn for you, especialy as you are
> still commited to reason I consider you as an ethnic activist who has
> benefited from the new world order and promotes it so.
The lack of "scorn" lasted only as long as it took you to type the
word!! Oh, and if your "new world order" refers to "after the defeat
of the NAZIS", then most of us belong there - excluding yourself.
>
> The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
It does, when they sprout stuff like "Save the White race", and
promote "ethnic cleansing" of the non WASPS, as you have.
> Such groups
> simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
> internationalism.
Here is your Nazi argument again, "The JEWS MADE us kill them.."
> Have you ever read any of my URLs. I bet not.
> Here is one well documented ethnic groups influence:
> http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm there are others.
> The fact that politicians must fall ass over tit mau mauing with some
> realy very ethnocentric ethnic leaders and feel compelled to get
> involved in distatestefull parochial debates eg as to whether
> Alexander the Great was "Macedonain" or "Greek" tells us how
> fragmented we have become. (We honestly had this debate: and though
> Cleopatra & Alexander were both Macedonian the politicians came to the
> side of the Greeks: where the votes were)
Dickhead! Alexander the Great was a Macedonian AND a Greek!! That is
if you consider modern geography.
>
> Have you ever read Peter Terry's and Seppo Renffors posts?
> Consistantly they are without doubt vile, obsessive, anti-western,
> Australophobes. Insane inane nihilists that deny the existence of a
> distinct western culture. Spitefull biggots that promote mass
> immigration and fanatic radical diversity in pursuit of their soite.
> Both immigrats, both mavericks, both misanthrops that vicariously
> crusade through the internet.
Whoops, you missed out on "Marxist" and "post modernism", in that
rabid rant!
>
> Nationalism is merely a natural response to these clowns a healthy
> affirmation.
So you call being a NAZI as "healthy"!!! You are sicker than you
think....
> A neo-western ethnic consciounsess is merely a natural
> response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops.
It is "NEO NAZI", you dumkopf. You can't quite get yourself to spell
it out - yet you cannot let it go without making it CLEAR you are
referring to being a NAZI.
> (A Finn and a
> NZealander of unknown parentage and unfortunately confused racial
> composition).
This is RACISM and vilification thereby - and CRIMINAL to boot in
this country.
> We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
> their loud voices?
NAZIS ARE the lunatic "fringe fanatics" - ie YOU!
> while they pour shit and scorn on our culture and
> civilization?
A NAZI cannot be termed "civilised" - a BARBARIAN is a better term.
YOU are then one promoting ETHNIC CLEANSING, for christ sake! How
BARBARIC is that! Your NAZI culture is NO PART of the Australian
culture. In fact our diggers HOT NAZIS, to rid the world of this
pestilence once and for all.
> While they run immigration programs twice as large as
> they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
> with ad hominem and polical correctness?
You lying Nazi turd! *I* don't run any immigration program at all.
However I see you are AGAINST the Australian government too! If you
don't LIKE it here, FUCK OFF!
>
> My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
> across that sort of scum.
See.... you are getting there, admitting again to be one of THEM!
> I saw what dersion vomited forth on
> ordinary austrlains and what little care or love they had they are
> more concerend with their own sophistry.
Don't be so fucken insulting of "ordinary Australians"!! They have NO
likeness to you! There are but the VERY few screw-balls who are NAZIS.
YOU are one of them.
> Before that I'd travelled in
> asia, maintain friends there; and some years ago I dated 2 asian girls
> as I would a white. I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
> going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
The typical racists "defence", the "I have a friend an who is [insert
race]..."!! It isn't a "defence" but an admission of GUILT! It relies
on RACE as the significant component - a continuing preoccupation with
RACE!
The NAZIS during WWII would save a JEW they personally knew, but would
shoot a dozen others in cold blood. Further more you have advocated
the NEED for ethnic cleansing - a NAZI ideal! No doubt you would,
"save" your "friends", while shooting others, or kick them into the
gas chambers, totally without any qualms!
>
> Seppo and Peter are beyond the pall.
YOU advocate tyranny and barbarian behaviour, and you have the GAL to
say THAT! Hmmmm.... on second thought.... it is entirely consistent
with being a NAZI and hold NAZI ideals. To be different from them is
"beyond the pall" to them... and will be marked for extermination,
right!
The Enlightenment
> The Enlightenment wrote:
> >
> > fyf...@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in message news:<936eaee8.02060...@posting.google.com>...
> > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:<3cf87fbc$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > "francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
> > > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:<3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> Nazis
> > > > > > were living in Australia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > > > > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Ask these Nazis to come to this ng so that they will get an education.
> > > > >
> > > > Heck mate hang around a little...this NG is full of the bastards..... And
> > > > don't expect your traditional Hitler fucker because the new breed of neo
> > > > Nazism is better reflected within the values of so many of the principal
> > > > players we find within the Coalition.
> > >
> > > Oh, I am sure. Just read over some of the posts and you will know
> > > that Oz is now the heaven for Nazis intellectuals.
> >
> > Nazism died in a bunker in May 1945!
>
> ... eerrrr..... are you claiming to be a GHOST??
You are the one who is shadow boxing
> >
> > > Nevertheless, it
> > > is our job to help them out so that they would rather end up being
> > > mistaken than being evil.
> >
> > At this point, while i have no scorn for you, especialy as you are
> > still commited to reason I consider you as an ethnic activist who has
> > benefited from the new world order and promotes it so.
>
> The lack of "scorn" lasted only as long as it took you to type the
> word!! Oh, and if your "new world order" refers to "after the defeat
> of the NAZIS", then most of us belong there - excluding yourself.
Scorn is something you are known for Seeppo
> >
> > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
>
> It does, when they sprout stuff like "Save the White race", and
> promote "ethnic cleansing" of the non WASPS, as you have.
Lieing again Seppo, you sure seem to lie and misrepresnt a lot don't
you. Means you don't have and argument: only hatred driven lies.
Your biggoted contempt for anything WASPish is well known. Its easy
to see that most of your life is based on this. Most people see
through the negative experences of childhood and get past them. di
the little Finn get teased at school? Grow up.
>
>
> > Such groups
> > simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
> > internationalism.
>
> Here is your Nazi argument again, "The JEWS MADE us kill them.."
Idiot, I didn't mention jews and you are misrepresenting me again.
done deliberately that is lieing and as LOW as you can get.
If group of people form into collective ethnic groups, eg Arabs,
Muslims,Vietnamese to promote their interests others eventualy will
feel compelled to do so as well to match their advantage or suffer
disadvantage. Denigrate & destroy a broad cohesive national identity
and promote multi-ethnicism and thats what you get. History proves
it, common sense suggests it and logic demonstrates it.
>
> > Have you ever read any of my URLs. I bet not.
> > Here is one well documented ethnic groups influence:
> > http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm there are others.
> > The fact that politicians must fall ass over tit mau mauing with some
> > realy very ethnocentric ethnic leaders and feel compelled to get
> > involved in distatestefull parochial debates eg as to whether
> > Alexander the Great was "Macedonain" or "Greek" tells us how
> > fragmented we have become. (We honestly had this debate: and though
> > Cleopatra & Alexander were both Macedonian the politicians came to the
> > side of the Greeks: where the votes were)
>
> Dickhead! Alexander the Great was a Macedonian AND a Greek!! That is
> if you consider modern geography.
Like all petty tyrants you change tunes when expedient and define
ancient ethniciticity in terms of modern polical borders. Fuck, you
are so shallow as to be stupid.
The point in anycase was that the whole debate was absurd when one
cosniders it whent to a politcal level in Australia and led to street
protests in Australia.
> >
> > Have you ever read Peter Terry's and Seppo Renffors posts?
> > Consistantly they are without doubt vile, obsessive, anti-western,
> > Australophobes. Insane inane nihilists that deny the existence of a
> > distinct western culture. Spitefull biggots that promote mass
> > immigration and fanatic radical diversity in pursuit of their soite.
> > Both immigrats, both mavericks, both misanthrops that vicariously
> > crusade through the internet.
>
> Whoops, you missed out on "Marxist" and "post modernism", in that
> rabid rant!
Whether you like it or not you are enroled up in it like a stunned
wombat in the headlights. Your politics, way of arguiing are all post
modernist. As a drone I guess you have NO idea as to how ideas
circulte in modern societies.
> >
> > Nationalism is merely a natural response to these clowns, a healthy
> > affirmation.
>
> So you call being a NAZI as "healthy"!!! You are sicker than you
> think....
Nationlism balance rampant Internationalism which lack
accountabillity.
>
> > A neo-western ethnic consciounsess is merely a natural
> > response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops.
>
> It is "NEO NAZI", you dumkopf. You can't quite get yourself to spell
> it out - yet you cannot let it go without making it CLEAR you are
> referring to being a NAZI.
Ah the fruitloop can't help but bring the WWII Nazi's into it.
>
> > (A Finn and a
> > NZealander of unknown parentage and unfortunately confused racial
> > composition).
>
> This is RACISM and vilification thereby - and CRIMINAL to boot in
> this country.
another one of your tactics Seeppo?
It is YOU are Peter T that are the racists, albeit double standard
ones.
You hide behined anti-racism to actualize your own biggotry.
1 I quite admire the Finns, especialy one called Saskia; the fact that
you are an Australophobe, hyper-multiculturalist, Cultural Nihilist
and your vast public comment on this area in this NG makes it quite
relevant.
2 Likewise with Peter T, a New Zealander who clearly spews forth
contempt, demonization and scorn onto Westerners and Anglo-Saxons and
whites in genral bordering on psychological illness. His public
anti-western racism DO make his ethnicticity relevant; clearly to me
he is a racist and perhaps one day such people will be prosecuted in
this cvountry as well; though I would not suppor tsuch a measure.
Sadly I can only guess from his evasive responses to my queries that
he is of mixed racial origins and this is part of the source of his
apparent race hate. If his anger is out of his racial/cultural mix I
feel this is sad and unnecessary as I would be the first to make this
fact cordialy irrelevant in my relationship with him.
Like you I guess he has had trouble fitting and an has blamed it on
the Anglos and racists. Most unfortunate. IU guess if you didn't
have the Anglso or the True blues it would be something else?
>
> > We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
> > their loud voices?
>
> NAZIS ARE the lunatic "fringe fanatics" - ie YOU!
Seeppo, you are a lunmatice fringe. I know it desn't seem real to you
yet but thas the way it is.
>
> > while they pour shit and scorn on our culture and
> > civilization?
>
> A NAZI cannot be termed "civilised" - a BARBARIAN is a better term.
> YOU are then one promoting ETHNIC CLEANSING, for christ sake! How
> BARBARIC is that! Your NAZI culture is NO PART of the Australian
> culture. In fact our diggers HOT NAZIS, to rid the world of this
> pestilence once and for all.
Your fanticism certainly isn't. I am not a Nazi.
>
> > While they run immigration programs twice as large as
> > they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
> > with ad hominem and polical correctness?
>
> You lying Nazi turd! *I* don't run any immigration program at all.
> However I see you are AGAINST the Australian government too! If you
> don't LIKE it here, FUCK OFF!
You promote it with all your efforts.
> >
> > My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
> > across that sort of scum.
>
> See.... you are getting there, admitting again to be one of THEM!
We are all ethnics Seeppp. In your Multicultural dream world we are
all ethnics.
>
> > I saw what dersion vomited forth on
> > ordinary austrlains and what little care or love they had they are
> > more concerend with their own sophistry.
>
> Don't be so fucken insulting of "ordinary Australians"!! They have NO
> likeness to you! There are but the VERY few screw-balls who are NAZIS.
> YOU are one of them.
Rednecks is what you used to call us, thats how you dehumainized
abroad swath of people with broadly different background. Just like
the mytholgised Nazies you keep invoking.
>
> > Before that I'd travelled in
> > asia, maintain friends there; and some years ago I dated 2 asian girls
> > as I would a white. I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
> > going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
>
> The typical racists "defence", the "I have a friend an who is [insert
> race]..."!! It isn't a "defence" but an admission of GUILT! It relies
> on RACE as the significant component - a continuing preoccupation with
> RACE!
I merely point out that I am color blind in my fuinctioning with
people on an individualk level. I think thats relvant as you accuse
me of racial supremism all the time.
>
> The NAZIS during WWII would save a JEW they personally knew, but would
> shoot a dozen others in cold blood. Further more you have advocated
> the NEED for ethnic cleansing - a NAZI ideal! No doubt you would,
> "save" your "friends", while shooting others, or kick them into the
> gas chambers, totally without any qualms!
Seppo, I'd save you.
> >
> > Seppo and Peter are beyond the pall.
>
> YOU advocate tyranny and barbarian behaviour, and you have the GAL to
> say THAT! Hmmmm.... on second thought.... it is entirely consistent
> with being a NAZI and hold NAZI ideals. To be different from them is
> "beyond the pall" to them... and will be marked for extermination,
> right!
Seppo, Seppo, Seppo. Just retire, you're fighting battles that were
won decades ago. Don't push a good thing too far. Karl Pooper
pointed ou that the demise of most societies lies in their excessive
devotion to their fundemtnal ideal. Your anti-racism sophistry is
such a thing and you are disppperaing slowly up you own oriface.
If you keep doing this obseesive/fantatic thing you'll keep getting
the same results.
The Enlightenment
HaHa. In the case of your ilk I will grant dispensation as you're
already carrying clear identification ON your neck.
BTW what happend to you, you were quiet for a while?
Seppo Renfors
The Enlightenment wrote:
>
> Seppo Renfors <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message news:<3CFF5A1C...@not.olles.com.au>...
> > The Enlightenment wrote:
> > >
> > > fyf...@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in message news:<936eaee8.02060...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:<3cf87fbc$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > > "francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:<3cf71fd4$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > > > > A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected
> > Nazis
> > > > > > > were living in Australia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> > > > > > > police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Ask these Nazis to come to this ng so that they will get an education.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Heck mate hang around a little...this NG is full of the bastards..... And
> > > > > don't expect your traditional Hitler fucker because the new breed of neo
> > > > > Nazism is better reflected within the values of so many of the principal
> > > > > players we find within the Coalition.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I am sure. Just read over some of the posts and you will know
> > > > that Oz is now the heaven for Nazis intellectuals.
> > >
> > > Nazism died in a bunker in May 1945!
> >
> > ... eerrrr..... are you claiming to be a GHOST??
>
> You are the one who is shadow boxing
Well... true in a way... you are merely text on my screen :-)
> > > > Nevertheless, it
> > > > is our job to help them out so that they would rather end up being
> > > > mistaken than being evil.
> > >
> > > At this point, while i have no scorn for you, especialy as you are
> > > still commited to reason I consider you as an ethnic activist who has
> > > benefited from the new world order and promotes it so.
> >
> > The lack of "scorn" lasted only as long as it took you to type the
> > word!! Oh, and if your "new world order" refers to "after the defeat
> > of the NAZIS", then most of us belong there - excluding yourself.
>
> Scorn is something you are known for Seeppo
Yes, I DO scorn SOME people, you finally figured it out!! There might
be some hope for you yet!
> > > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
> >
> > It does, when they sprout stuff like "Save the White race", and
> > promote "ethnic cleansing" of the non WASPS, as you have.
>
> Lieing again Seppo, you sure seem to lie and misrepresnt a lot don't
> you. Means you don't have and argument: only hatred driven lies.
What's "Lieing"??
Try this:
<3CF853DA...@not.olles.com.au>
SIR said:
> > To suggest that "balkanization is an inevitable outcome of
> > multi-culturalism" is to say "We will have to do ETHNIC CLEANSING of
> > our own" - that is a NAZI IDEAL, and is exactly what they attempted
> > with the JEWS. YOU now claim to want to do the same!!
>
The Unenlightened said:
> I assert it!
[end quote]
Here I said: "YOU now claim to want to do the same [ethnic cleansing]"
and you reply "I assert it" - a forceful statement of intent! SO don't
crap on about me "lying".
>
> Your biggoted contempt for anything WASPish is well known. Its easy
> to see that most of your life is based on this. Most people see
> through the negative experences of childhood and get past them. di
> the little Finn get teased at school? Grow up.
I target YOU PERSONALLY - not "WASPs" as you claim - unless you are
big headed enough to believe you are ALL OF THEM!
However you target ALL Finnish people with your vilification. The
RACIST part of your vilification - which is ILLEGAL!
[insert text from above to restore context]
> > > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
[end insert]
> > > Such groups
> > > simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
> > > internationalism.
> >
> > Here is your Nazi argument again, "The JEWS MADE us kill them.."
>
> Idiot, I didn't mention jews and you are misrepresenting me again.
> done deliberately that is lieing and as LOW as you can get.
I'm actually sitting not "lieing"! You must be rather THICK! It was a
TYPE argument you push - a simile. In the passage restored, you also
claim to speak for and on behalf of the Nation. When did Howard die
and who appointed YOU Furher?
>
> If group of people form into collective ethnic groups, eg Arabs,
> Muslims,Vietnamese to promote their interests others eventualy will
> feel compelled to do so as well to match their advantage or suffer
> disadvantage. Denigrate & destroy a broad cohesive national identity
> and promote multi-ethnicism and thats what you get. History proves
> it, common sense suggests it and logic demonstrates it.
PROVE they exist and WHY they shouldn't be able to promote "their
interests", and WHY such interests are against a National Interest.
WHY should they NOT be allowed exactly the same rights as all else?
WHO made then "Undermenchen"?
Provide references to REPUTABLE sources - relating to Australia - eg
Acts of Law, Government policy etc. Opposition policies, statements
-NOT PHON, they are a KNOW rabble or ANTI Australians.
>
[..]
> >
> > Dickhead! Alexander the Great was a Macedonian AND a Greek!! That is
> > if you consider modern geography.
>
> Like all petty tyrants you change tunes when expedient and define
> ancient ethniciticity in terms of modern polical borders. Fuck, you
> are so shallow as to be stupid.
So you really have NO IDEA where Macedonia is! I see....
> The point in anycase was that the whole debate was absurd when one
> cosniders it whent to a politcal level in Australia and led to street
> protests in Australia.
BULLSHIT! It had nothing to do with Alexander the Great!
>
[..]
> >
> > Whoops, you missed out on "Marxist" and "post modernism", in that
> > rabid rant!
>
> Whether you like it or not you are enroled up in it like a stunned
> wombat in the headlights. Your politics, way of arguiing are all post
> modernist. As a drone I guess you have NO idea as to how ideas
> circulte in modern societies.
REALLY :-)
...and YOU DO?? HAH!! You are having me on, surely!
>
> > >
> > > Nationalism is merely a natural response to these clowns, a healthy
> > > affirmation.
> >
> > So you call being a NAZI as "healthy"!!! You are sicker than you
> > think....
>
> Nationlism balance rampant Internationalism which lack
> accountabillity.
THAT is gobbledegook! Nazism is a MENTAL ILLNESS!
> > > A neo-western ethnic consciounsess is merely a natural
> > > response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops.
> >
> > It is "NEO NAZI", you dumkopf. You can't quite get yourself to spell
> > it out - yet you cannot let it go without making it CLEAR you are
> > referring to being a NAZI.
>
> Ah the fruitloop can't help but bring the WWII Nazi's into it.
Well you haven't managed to get a handle on this language so I'm
merely helping you out! I have a good idea where you are heading. You
can't hide behind terms like "neo-western" and claim then to be anti
immigrant, without it being obvious to a BLIND person you mean
NEO-NAZI!
>
> >
> > > (A Finn and a
> > > NZealander of unknown parentage and unfortunately confused racial
> > > composition).
> >
> > This is RACISM and vilification thereby - and CRIMINAL to boot in
> > this country.
>
> another one of your tactics Seeppo?
No, it is your TACTICS, TO RESORT TO RACISM.
> It is YOU are Peter T that are the racists, albeit double standard
> ones.
> You hide behined anti-racism to actualize your own biggotry.
There you go again. Reversing what "racism" is. You PRACTICE it, but
cannot point to a single occurrence of me doing so. Post the message
ID and quote IN CONTEXT your claim of me being a racist. Else add the
attribute of being a liar to your list. Calling YOU a NAZI, isn't such
you know. Unless you consider yourself to be a whole damned race .....
but then you may well do so - a "race of one". In which case I would
recommend you go see a good shrink!
> 1 I quite admire the Finns, especialy one called Saskia;
...but don't hesitate for the blink of an eyelid fo vilify ALL finnish
people, in an attempt to get at ME!
> the fact that
> you are an Australophobe, hyper-multiculturalist, Cultural Nihilist
> and your vast public comment on this area in this NG makes it quite
> relevant.
Frothing at the mouth again I see.... better get some rabies shots!!
>
> 2 Likewise with Peter T, a New Zealander who clearly spews forth
So you have seen his birth certificate, eh? You haven't a clue where
he was born!
[..]
Take it up with Terry.
> > > We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
> > > their loud voices?
> >
> > NAZIS ARE the lunatic "fringe fanatics" - ie YOU!
>
> Seeppo, you are a lunmatice fringe. I know it desn't seem real to you
> yet but thas the way it is.
Oh... S-U-R-E.... :-)
Is that the best you can do? :-)
> > > while they pour shit and scorn on our culture and
> > > civilization?
> >
> > A NAZI cannot be termed "civilised" - a BARBARIAN is a better term.
> > YOU are then one promoting ETHNIC CLEANSING, for christ sake! How
> > BARBARIC is that! Your NAZI culture is NO PART of the Australian
> > culture. In fact our diggers HOT NAZIS, to rid the world of this
> > pestilence once and for all.
>
> Your fanticism certainly isn't. I am not a Nazi.
You have ADMITTED TO IT voluntarily! You espouse NAZI ideology
continually! You HATE JEWS and do most ANYTHING to vilify them in all
ways. You pose terms like "neo-western" "WASP", and what amounts to
"race traitor", CLASSIC NAZI terms. As much NAZI as "Comrade" and
"proletariat" is to a communist!
Add to that "A neo-western ethnic consciounsess(sic) is merely a
natural response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops"," A
CLEARLY understood meaning of NEO-NAZI! Then you claim "anti racist =
racist". Meaning "racist is good" another bit of NAZI ideology! No,
there is NO getting away from it, you are a NAZI!
> > > While they run immigration programs twice as large as
> > > they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
> > > with ad hominem and polical correctness?
> >
> > You lying Nazi turd! *I* don't run any immigration program at all.
> > However I see you are AGAINST the Australian government too! If you
> > don't LIKE it here, FUCK OFF!
>
> You promote it with all your efforts.
Have I? Better take a few more of your reality pills! What *I* do is
give you a real kick in the arse for OFFENDING ME continually and with
INTENT, a calculated intent. Eg "immigrant fruitloops", promising
"ethnic cleaning" and other RACIST views. YOU kick an "ethnic" and you
kick ME. But remember, I KICK BACK and HARD!
> > > My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
> > > across that sort of scum.
> >
> > See.... you are getting there, admitting again to be one of THEM!
>
> We are all ethnics Seeppp. In your Multicultural dream world we are
> all ethnics.
Yeah.... but NOT in YOUR world, in that world there are WASP's and
"scum". Which indicates what you really are yourself - eg SCUM -
recall you have earned the term "Pond Scum" already!
<3CDD2C27...@not.olles.com.au>
> >
> > > I saw what dersion vomited forth on
> > > ordinary austrlains and what little care or love they had they are
> > > more concerend with their own sophistry.
> >
> > Don't be so fucken insulting of "ordinary Australians"!! They have NO
> > likeness to you! There are but the VERY few screw-balls who are NAZIS.
> > YOU are one of them.
>
> Rednecks is what you used to call us, thats how you dehumainized
> abroad swath of people with broadly different background.
"Rednecks" are a different breed from Nazis - they are plain bigots.
There is a distinct step to a NAZI. A Barbarian, immoral being.
> Just like the mytholgised Nazies you keep invoking.
No "myth" about you - you have made that absolutely clear!
> > > Before that I'd travelled in
> > > asia, maintain friends there; and some years ago I dated 2 asian girls
> > > as I would a white. I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
> > > going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
> >
> > The typical racists "defence", the "I have a friend an who is [insert
> > race]..."!! It isn't a "defence" but an admission of GUILT! It relies
> > on RACE as the significant component - a continuing preoccupation with
> > RACE!
>
> I merely point out that I am color blind in my fuinctioning with
> people on an individualk level.
You cannot be as you are here, without it being quite apparent to one
of those whom you would use "ethnic cleansing" on. They are probably
vastly more polite than I am - and I have NO intention to be polite to
a person who vilifies me at every turn, in almost every post.
> I think thats relvant as you accuse
> me of racial supremism all the time.
I don't "accuse" you I state a FACT, a well displayed fact - there is
you, a self claimed WASP and there is "scum" and "immigrant
fruitloops", according to yourself in this very post!
> > The NAZIS during WWII would save a JEW they personally knew, but would
> > shoot a dozen others in cold blood. Further more you have advocated
> > the NEED for ethnic cleansing - a NAZI ideal! No doubt you would,
> > "save" your "friends", while shooting others, or kick them into the
> > gas chambers, totally without any qualms!
>
> Seppo, I'd save you.
Pfffttt..... I just let the wind out of your bag....
>
> > >
> > > Seppo and Peter are beyond the pall.
> >
> > YOU advocate tyranny and barbarian behaviour, and you have the GAL to
> > say THAT! Hmmmm.... on second thought.... it is entirely consistent
> > with being a NAZI and hold NAZI ideals. To be different from them is
> > "beyond the pall" to them... and will be marked for extermination,
> > right!
>
> Seppo, Seppo, Seppo. Just retire, you're fighting battles that were
> won decades ago.
We thought.... but then there is the rise of this "Nationalism", and
those who take it to the EXTREMES, like you. There ARE organised Nazi
groups in Australia - if you are part of an organised group or not, I
don't know, nor CARE. You are one.
> Don't push a good thing too far.
Oh, I don't think I have done that. I can claim success already! Your
attacking me has prevented you from spreading your propaganda :-)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
> Karl Pooper
> pointed ou that the demise of most societies lies in their excessive
> devotion to their fundemtnal ideal. Your anti-racism sophistry is
> such a thing and you are disppperaing slowly up you own oriface.
Perhaps you should take not of Karl!! YOU are the one with the
fundamentalist ideas! ONE RACE - the WASPS..... the Nazi ideals!
> If you keep doing this obseesive/fantatic thing you'll keep getting
> the same results.
Ahhhh..... the "If I'm not allowed to be a Nazi, i'll become a Nazi.."
argument :-)
Heard it before, it is as loony now as it was then!!
The Enlightenment
By your violent and vile nature, obsessive/compulsive habbits the
inconsistant
egocentruc crap you pump out I think you live a life of scorn with
those around you.
>
> > > > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > > > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > > > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
> > >
> > > It does, when they sprout stuff like "Save the White race", and
> > > promote "ethnic cleansing" of the non WASPS, as you have.
> >
> > Lieing again Seppo, you sure seem to lie and misrepresnt a lot don't
> > you. Means you don't have and argument: only hatred driven lies.
>
> What's "Lieing"??
>
> Try this:
>
> <3CF853DA...@not.olles.com.au>
>
> SIR said:
> > > To suggest that "balkanization is an inevitable outcome of
> > > multi-culturalism" is to say "We will have to do ETHNIC CLEANSING of
> > > our own" - that is a NAZI IDEAL, and is exactly what they attempted
> > > with the JEWS. YOU now claim to want to do the same!!
> >
> The Unenlightened said:
> > I assert it!
>
Pure bare faced idiocy on your part. Someone can say 'a' and you'll
make it mean "b". No wonder you have a repeutation as a nutcase.
> [end quote]
>
> Here I said: "YOU now claim to want to do the same [ethnic cleansing]"
> and you reply "I assert it" - a forceful statement of intent! SO don't
> crap on about me "lying".
What I assert is that running multicultrual policies can lead to
ethnic conflict
and competition.
>
> >
> > Your biggoted contempt for anything WASPish is well known. Its easy
> > to see that most of your life is based on this. Most people see
> > through the negative experences of childhood and get past them. di
> > the little Finn get teased at school? Grow up.
>
> I target YOU PERSONALLY - not "WASPs" as you claim - unless you are
> big headed enough to believe you are ALL OF THEM!
In your case that is just about everybody and everbody that doesn't
agree with your swine ego. In anycase your postion is cleary oen of
biggotry and hatred. Its obvious you're smart enought not to admit it
outright.
You remind me of Andrew Theophanous in the way you always pull out the
race card. You're similar of temprament to the little crook, a habbit
of sounding litiginouse to back your puke ridden arguments.
>
> However you target ALL Finnish people with your vilification. The
> RACIST part of your vilification - which is ILLEGAL!
> [insert text from above to restore context]
> > > > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > > > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > > > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
> [end insert]
> > > > Such groups
> > > > simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
> > > > internationalism.
> > >
> > > Here is your Nazi argument again, "The JEWS MADE us kill them.."
> >
> > Idiot, I didn't mention jews and you are misrepresenting me again.
> > done deliberately that is lieing and as LOW as you can get.
>
> I'm actually sitting not "lieing"! You must be rather THICK! It was a
> TYPE argument you push - a simile. In the passage restored, you also
> claim to speak for and on behalf of the Nation. When did Howard die
> and who appointed YOU Furher?
You seem to think you speak on behalf of the community with your use
of "we".
Let me tell you your just a miniority crackpot. A distracting one.
> >
> > If group of people form into collective ethnic groups, eg Arabs,
> > Muslims,Vietnamese to promote their interests others eventualy will
> > feel compelled to do so as well to match their advantage or suffer
> > disadvantage. Denigrate & destroy a broad cohesive national identity
> > and promote multi-ethnicism and thats what you get. History proves
> > it, common sense suggests it and logic demonstrates it.
>
> PROVE they exist and WHY they shouldn't be able to promote "their
> interests", and WHY such interests are against a National Interest.
> WHY should they NOT be allowed exactly the same rights as all else?
> WHO made then "Undermenchen"?
>
So you can ignore the proof or argument?
> Provide references to REPUTABLE sources - relating to Australia - eg
> Acts of Law, Government policy etc. Opposition policies, statements
> -NOT PHON, they are a KNOW rabble or ANTI Australians.
I've noticed that whenever someone comes up with dicisve proof you
simply say
"thats deiscredited" not matter how reputable the source. Infact
anything you disagree with is 'discredited'
Your arguments are horse manure and you've shown that your tactic is
to exhaust people with volumes of shit postings....
> >
> [..]
> > >
> > > Dickhead! Alexander the Great was a Macedonian AND a Greek!! That is
> > > if you consider modern geography.
> >
> > Like all petty tyrants you change tunes when expedient and define
> > ancient ethniciticity in terms of modern polical borders. Fuck, you
> > are so shallow as to be stupid.
>
> So you really have NO IDEA where Macedonia is! I see....
Pretending to have knowledge is not the same as haveing knowlwege
Seppo.
You snipped the part where I pointed out that Peter Terry (& you) say
racist "anti-white" things and thus his racial/cultural origins are
valid.
>
> > It is YOU are Peter T that are the racists, albeit double standard
> > ones.
> > You hide behined anti-racism to actualize your own biggotry.
>
> There you go again. Reversing what "racism" is. You PRACTICE it, but
> cannot point to a single occurrence of me doing so. Post the message
> ID and quote IN CONTEXT your claim of me being a racist. Else add the
> attribute of being a liar to your list. Calling YOU a NAZI, isn't such
> you know. Unless you consider yourself to be a whole damned race .....
> but then you may well do so - a "race of one". In which case I would
> recommend you go see a good shrink!
>
> > 1 I quite admire the Finns, especialy one called Saskia;
>
> ...but don't hesitate for the blink of an eyelid fo vilify ALL finnish
> people, in an attempt to get at ME!
There is not way that you represnt all Finns or even a few. You realy
make a fool of yourself by imagining that by me pointing out our small
minded inabillity to transcend your immature sense of ethnic
outsiderness that I am criticising even remotely Finnland or the
Finnish.
>
> > the fact that
> > you are an Australophobe, hyper-multiculturalist, Cultural Nihilist
> > and your vast public comment on this area in this NG makes it quite
> > relevant.
>
> Frothing at the mouth again I see.... better get some rabies shots!!
The shoes fit you precisely.
> >
> > 2 Likewise with Peter T, a New Zealander who clearly spews forth
>
> So you have seen his birth certificate, eh? You haven't a clue where
> he was born!
>
> [..]
>
> Take it up with Terry.
Who cares; he's spent fundemental time there. His vexatious nature
has been well exposed in the relgious NG.
>
> > > > We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
> > > > their loud voices?
> > >
> > > NAZIS ARE the lunatic "fringe fanatics" - ie YOU!
> >
> > Seeppo, you are a lunatic fringe. I know it desn't seem real to you
> > yet but thas the way it is.
>
> Oh... S-U-R-E.... :-)
>
> Is that the best you can do? :-)
Crticsms is just water of a ducks back to you these days.
>
> > > > while they pour shit and scorn on our culture and
> > > > civilization?
> > >
> > > A NAZI cannot be termed "civilised" - a BARBARIAN is a better term.
> > > YOU are then one promoting ETHNIC CLEANSING, for christ sake! How
> > > BARBARIC is that! Your NAZI culture is NO PART of the Australian
> > > culture. In fact our diggers HOT NAZIS, to rid the world of this
> > > pestilence once and for all.
> >
> > Your fanticism certainly isn't. I am not a Nazi.
>
> You have ADMITTED TO IT voluntarily! You espouse NAZI ideology
> continually! You HATE JEWS and do most ANYTHING to vilify them in all
> ways. You pose terms like "neo-western" "WASP", and what amounts to
> "race traitor", CLASSIC NAZI terms. As much NAZI as "Comrade" and
> "proletariat" is to a communist!
If I use the word collegue that maes me a Nazi or Brother macks me a
black man?
I will point out the hypocrisy of any individuals using their
ethniticity and the "specatare" or racism to disadvantage others and
advantage themselves.
Andrew Theophanous, was of similar opinion to you I think.
>
> Add to that "A neo-western ethnic consciounsess(sic) is merely a
> natural response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops","
I appologise if that was misunderstood. You and Peter T are the only
two specific frutiloops I was refereing to.
A
> CLEARLY understood meaning of NEO-NAZI! Then you claim "anti racist =
> racist". Meaning "racist is good" another bit of NAZI ideology! No,
> there is NO getting away from it, you are a NAZI!
Blah, blah blah
>
> > > > While they run immigration programs twice as large as
> > > > they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
> > > > with ad hominem and polical correctness?
> > >
> > > You lying Nazi turd! *I* don't run any immigration program at all.
> > > However I see you are AGAINST the Australian government too! If you
> > > don't LIKE it here, FUCK OFF!
> >
> > You promote it with all your efforts.
>
> Have I? Better take a few more of your reality pills! What *I* do is
> give you a real kick in the arse for OFFENDING ME continually and with
> INTENT, a calculated intent. Eg "immigrant fruitloops", promising
> "ethnic cleaning" and other RACIST views. YOU kick an "ethnic" and you
> kick ME. But remember, I KICK BACK and HARD!
Seeppo the victim. How does your victimhood help you? You are quite
attached to it.
You're the most spitefull person on this NG Seeppo.
>
> > > > My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
> > > > across that sort of scum.
> > >
> > > See.... you are getting there, admitting again to be one of THEM!
> >
> > We are all ethnics Seeppp. In your Multicultural dream world we are
> > all ethnics.
>
> Yeah.... but NOT in YOUR world, in that world there are WASP's and
> "scum". Which indicates what you really are yourself - eg SCUM -
> recall you have earned the term "Pond Scum" already!
Seeppo, if you wern't so vile you'd be a funny clown.
>
> > >
> > > > I saw what dersion vomited forth on
> > > > ordinary austrlains and what little care or love they had they are
> > > > more concerend with their own sophistry.
> > >
> > > Don't be so fucken insulting of "ordinary Australians"!! They have NO
> > > likeness to you! There are but the VERY few screw-balls who are NAZIS.
> > > YOU are one of them.
> >
> > Rednecks is what you used to call us, thats how you dehumainized
> > abroad swath of people with broadly different background.
>
> "Rednecks" are a different breed from Nazis - they are plain bigots.
> There is a distinct step to a NAZI. A Barbarian, immoral being.
By that standard you are clearly a Redneck, for you demonstrate your
biggotry: biggot Someone attached to an opinion beyond reason.
Redneck is an Americanism you have appropriated: It refers to the
sunburn hardworking midwestern farmers got from honourable toiling in
the sun. The Approbium was added by swine like you to people you
can't understand as a myth. A demon to use in your mindless
propaganda.
>
> > Just like the mytholgised Nazies you keep invoking.
>
> No "myth" about you - you have made that absolutely clear!
>
> > > > Before that I'd travelled in
> > > > asia, maintain friends there; and some years ago I dated 2 asian girls
> > > > as I would a white. I sit next to a african woman at uni and I'm
> > > > going to celebrate the birthday of a friend who happens to be gay.
> > >
> > > The typical racists "defence", the "I have a friend an who is [insert
> > > race]..."!! It isn't a "defence" but an admission of GUILT! It relies
> > > on RACE as the significant component - a continuing preoccupation with
> > > RACE!
> >
> > I merely point out that I am color blind in my functioning with
> > people on an individual level.
>
> You cannot be as you are here, without it being quite apparent to one
> of those whom you would use "ethnic cleansing" on. They are probably
> vastly more polite than I am - and I have NO intention to be polite to
> a person who vilifies me at every turn, in almost every post.
>
> > I think thats relvant as you accuse
> > me of racial supremism all the time.
>
> I don't "accuse" you I state a FACT, a well displayed fact - there is
> you, a self claimed WASP and there is "scum" and "immigrant
> fruitloops", according to yourself in this very post!
You are the specific immigrant fruitloop I am refering to. It is not
a generalisation. Most immigrants of your era would have come to
enjoy living in Australia without an obsessive fruitloop like focus on
Australophobia.
>
> > > The NAZIS during WWII would save a JEW they personally knew, but would
> > > shoot a dozen others in cold blood. Further more you have advocated
> > > the NEED for ethnic cleansing - a NAZI ideal! No doubt you would,
> > > "save" your "friends", while shooting others, or kick them into the
> > > gas chambers, totally without any qualms!
> >
> > Seppo, I'd save you.
>
> Pfffttt..... I just let the wind out of your bag....
> >
> > > >
> > > > Seppo and Peter are beyond the pall.
> > >
> > > YOU advocate tyranny and barbarian behaviour, and you have the GAL to
> > > say THAT! Hmmmm.... on second thought.... it is entirely consistent
> > > with being a NAZI and hold NAZI ideals. To be different from them is
> > > "beyond the pall" to them... and will be marked for extermination,
> > > right!
> >
> > Seppo, Seppo, Seppo. Just retire, you're fighting battles that were
> > won decades ago.
>
> We thought.... but then there is the rise of this "Nationalism", and
> those who take it to the EXTREMES, like you. There ARE organised Nazi
> groups in Australia - if you are part of an organised group or not, I
> don't know, nor CARE. You are one.
Seppo, political correctness is the last refuge of scounderals.
I know what your are trying to do; any hint of loayalty or love to
Australia and its people and traditions you will try and associate
with a demonized Nazism. A techniqe as low as you are.
It is you who are the evil fiend, a low swine.
>
> > Don't push a good thing too far.
>
> Oh, I don't think I have done that. I can claim success already! Your
> attacking me has prevented you from spreading your propaganda :-)
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
Hahahahah. Yes an invalid has plenty of time to spread shit I
suppose.
>
> > Karl Popper
> > pointed ou that the demise of most societies lies in their excessive
> > devotion to their fundemtnal ideal. Your anti-racism sophistry is
> > such a thing and you are disppperaing slowly up you own oriface.
>
> Perhaps you should take not of Karl!! YOU are the one with the
> fundamentalist ideas! ONE RACE - the WASPS..... the Nazi ideals!
You are the one with an Anti-Western, Anti-Australian
hyper-multiculturlaism.
>
> > If you keep doing this obsessive/fantatic thing you'll keep getting
> > the same results.
>
> Ahhhh..... the "If I'm not allowed to be a Nazi, i'll become a Nazi.."
> argument :-)
> Heard it before, it is as loony now as it was then!!
You create the world around you Seeeppo. Did you think your
egotistical ramblings wouldn't draw a response.
Seppo Renfors
The Enlightenment wrote:
>
> Seppo Renfors <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message news:<3D00F690...@not.olles.com.au>...
> > The Enlightenment wrote:
> > >
> > > Seppo Renfors <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message news:<3CFF5A1C...@not.olles.com.au>...
> > > > The Enlightenment wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > fyf...@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in message news:<936eaee8.02060...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:<3cf87fbc$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > > > > "francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
[..]
> > > Scorn is something you are known for Seeppo
> >
> > Yes, I DO scorn SOME people, you finally figured it out!! There might
> > be some hope for you yet!
>
> By your violent and vile nature, obsessive/compulsive habbits the
> inconsistant
> egocentruc crap you pump out I think you live a life of scorn with
> those around you.
Listen I haven't smacked you around the head with a 4x2, other than
verbally. There goes the "violent" lie out the window. I have been
100% consistent in saying you are a Nazi, after you had established
the track record of being one. There goes the second lie of
"inconsistant(sic)" out the window. You don't know me or those around
me to claim "a life of scorn with those around you" - or even claim
the right to think so. There goes another LIE out the window. So
what's left.... NOTHING!!
> > > > > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > > > > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > > > > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
> > > >
> > > > It does, when they sprout stuff like "Save the White race", and
> > > > promote "ethnic cleansing" of the non WASPS, as you have.
> > >
> > > Lieing again Seppo, you sure seem to lie and misrepresnt a lot don't
> > > you. Means you don't have and argument: only hatred driven lies.
> >
> > What's "Lieing"??
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > <3CF853DA...@not.olles.com.au>
> >
> > SIR said:
> > > > To suggest that "balkanization is an inevitable outcome of
> > > > multi-culturalism" is to say "We will have to do ETHNIC CLEANSING of
> > > > our own" - that is a NAZI IDEAL, and is exactly what they attempted
> > > > with the JEWS. YOU now claim to want to do the same!!
> > >
> > The Unenlightened said:
> > > I assert it!
> > [end quote]
>
> Pure bare faced idiocy on your part. Someone can say 'a' and you'll
> make it mean "b". No wonder you have a repeutation as a nutcase.
Are you DENYING having said that, despite the verifiable PROOF
thereof? Your abuse don't deny the truth of what I stated! YOU
ADVOCATE ETHNIC CLEANSING!
> > Here I said: "YOU now claim to want to do the same [ethnic cleansing]"
> > and you reply "I assert it" - a forceful statement of intent! SO don't
> > crap on about me "lying".
>
> What I assert is that running multicultrual policies can lead to
> ethnic conflict and competition.
You also ASSERTED you would engage in "ethnic cleansing"! That above
is your propaganda you push, to JUSTIFY the "ultimate solution" with!
In fact I'll go so far as to say, you would be quite prepared to
INSTIGATE ethnic conflict to achieve your end goals to "Save the White
Race and their homelands". Why else would you generate all the hate
mongering for otherwise.
> > > Your biggoted contempt for anything WASPish is well known. Its easy
> > > to see that most of your life is based on this. Most people see
> > > through the negative experences of childhood and get past them. di
> > > the little Finn get teased at school? Grow up.
> >
> > I target YOU PERSONALLY - not "WASPs" as you claim - unless you are
> > big headed enough to believe you are ALL OF THEM!
>
> In your case that is just about everybody and everbody that doesn't
> agree with your swine ego.
So you ARE nutty enough to believe you are "everybody".... or at least
everybody that COUNTS, right! What else CAN the above mean?
> In anycase your postion is cleary oen of
> biggotry and hatred. Its obvious you're smart enought not to admit it
> outright.
I have OFTEN stated that I am intolerant of the intolerant. I have
told you the same, I DISLIKE NAZI's intensely! How many more times do
I need to say it point blank, totally unequivocally? Isn't that clear
enough for you?
> You remind me of Andrew Theophanous in the way you always pull out the
> race card. You're similar of temprament to the little crook, a habbit
> of sounding litiginouse to back your puke ridden arguments.
HE didn't and *I* haven't. YOU DO all the time, eg like above. The
more despicable part of what you display here is your deceit, the
dishonesty and out right LIES. Were you MAN enough to openly and
HONESTLY say you are a NAZI and stand by the ideology, you would
deserve more respect. Scott Hillard openly admits to being a Fascist.
You don't see me shoot him down in flames all the time. Neither does
he constantly push PROPAGANDA like you do. HE gets on with life, and
says what he thinks of any particular situation WITHOUT constant hate
mongering.
You on the other hand have made it a MISSION, a vocation of ethnic
bashing and JEW bashing, hate mongering and vilification. Your agenda
is to cause divisions and split the nation along WASP -v- others
lines. It is this despicable and SLEAZY behaviour that is most
offensive.
> >
> > However you target ALL Finnish people with your vilification. The
> > RACIST part of your vilification - which is ILLEGAL!
> > [insert text from above to restore context]
> > > > > The fact that I and others have identified various organised ethnic
> > > > > groups that promote ideologies and self-interests that are often
> > > > > antithical to the nation doesn't make anyone a Nazi.
> > [end insert]
> > > > > Such groups
> > > > > simply do exist and are an emergent property of multiculturalism and
> > > > > internationalism.
> > > >
> > > > Here is your Nazi argument again, "The JEWS MADE us kill them.."
> > >
> > > Idiot, I didn't mention jews and you are misrepresenting me again.
> > > done deliberately that is lieing and as LOW as you can get.
> >
> > I'm actually sitting not "lieing"! You must be rather THICK! It was a
> > TYPE argument you push - a simile. In the passage restored, you also
> > claim to speak for and on behalf of the Nation. When did Howard die
> > and who appointed YOU Furher?
>
> You seem to think you speak on behalf of the community with your use
> of "we".
You don't DENY pretending to speak on behalf of the Nation? WOW....
call the men in the white coats!!
*I* on the other hand can safely say "we" as the election results show
that I and far from alone in my views. YOU have nothing but your
fantasies to claim anything.
> Let me tell you your just a miniority crackpot. A distracting one.
PROVE IT big mouth.
> > > If group of people form into collective ethnic groups, eg Arabs,
> > > Muslims,Vietnamese to promote their interests others eventualy will
> > > feel compelled to do so as well to match their advantage or suffer
> > > disadvantage. Denigrate & destroy a broad cohesive national identity
> > > and promote multi-ethnicism and thats what you get. History proves
> > > it, common sense suggests it and logic demonstrates it.
> >
> > PROVE they exist and WHY they shouldn't be able to promote "their
> > interests", and WHY such interests are against a National Interest.
> > WHY should they NOT be allowed exactly the same rights as all else?
> > WHO made then "Undermenchen"?
>
> So you can ignore the proof or argument?
So it was PURE UNADULTERATED HATE PROPAGANDA again!!
> > Provide references to REPUTABLE sources - relating to Australia - eg
> > Acts of Law, Government policy etc. Opposition policies, statements
> > -NOT PHON, they are a KNOW rabble or ANTI Australians.
>
> I've noticed that whenever someone comes up with dicisve proof you
> simply say
> "thats deiscredited" not matter how reputable the source. Infact
> anything you disagree with is 'discredited'
Yes I have said that of the "Bell Curve", so much is true. That it is
discredited is also true. SOmething that is WELL KNOWN to be utter
crap NEEDS NOT be entered into over and over again. How many times do
you NEED it proven that the earth is NOT flat or are you simply
accepting it?
>
> Your arguments are horse manure and you've shown that your tactic is
> to exhaust people with volumes of shit postings....
Really? I OFFER you the opportunity to PROVE your bilious propaganda
to be true, and you CAN'T!! All you CAN do is resort to bilious VENOM.
It does tell a hell of a lot about you and your propaganda.
> > [..]
> > > >
> > > > Dickhead! Alexander the Great was a Macedonian AND a Greek!! That is
> > > > if you consider modern geography.
> > >
> > > Like all petty tyrants you change tunes when expedient and define
> > > ancient ethniciticity in terms of modern polical borders. Fuck, you
> > > are so shallow as to be stupid.
> >
> > So you really have NO IDEA where Macedonia is! I see....
>
> Pretending to have knowledge is not the same as haveing knowlwege
> Seppo.
Agreed.... and that is WHY you merely PRETEND! As so amply
demonstrated by your inability to provide the PROOF of your hateful
claims!
[much snipped not responded to]
> > > > > (A Finn and a
> > > > > NZealander of unknown parentage and unfortunately confused racial
> > > > > composition).
> > > >
> > > > This is RACISM and vilification thereby - and CRIMINAL to boot in
> > > > this country.
> > >
> > > another one of your tactics Seeppo?
> >
> > No, it is your TACTICS, TO RESORT TO RACISM.
>
> You snipped the part where I pointed out that Peter Terry (& you) say
> racist "anti-white" things and thus his racial/cultural origins are
> valid.
I let Peter Terry talk for himself. You bitch to HIM about HIM, not
ME.
> > > It is YOU are Peter T that are the racists, albeit double standard
> > > ones.
> > > You hide behined anti-racism to actualize your own biggotry.
> >
> > There you go again. Reversing what "racism" is. You PRACTICE it, but
> > cannot point to a single occurrence of me doing so. Post the message
> > ID and quote IN CONTEXT your claim of me being a racist. Else add the
> > attribute of being a liar to your list. Calling YOU a NAZI, isn't such
> > you know. Unless you consider yourself to be a whole damned race .....
> > but then you may well do so - a "race of one". In which case I would
> > recommend you go see a good shrink!
> >
> > > 1 I quite admire the Finns, especialy one called Saskia;
> >
> > ...but don't hesitate for the blink of an eyelid fo vilify ALL finnish
> > people, in an attempt to get at ME!
>
> There is not way that you represnt all Finns or even a few.
How fucken thick are you? THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! You SMEAR ALL
Finnish people, in an attempt to get at ME. THAT IS what makes you a
RACIST - exactly that!
> You realy
> make a fool of yourself by imagining that by me pointing out our small
> minded inabillity to transcend your immature sense of ethnic
> outsiderness that I am criticising even remotely Finnland or the
> Finnish.
You had better go back to school again and learn the way of the
Language then, if you fail to comprehend what you yourself write!
> > > the fact that
> > > you are an Australophobe, hyper-multiculturalist, Cultural Nihilist
> > > and your vast public comment on this area in this NG makes it quite
> > > relevant.
> >
> > Frothing at the mouth again I see.... better get some rabies shots!!
>
> The shoes fit you precisely.
Well, I bet you wear THONGS! At least I have the IQ to tie up shoe
laces!
> > > 2 Likewise with Peter T, a New Zealander who clearly spews forth
> >
> > So you have seen his birth certificate, eh? You haven't a clue where
> > he was born!
> >
> > [..]
> >
> > Take it up with Terry.
>
> Who cares; he's spent fundemental time there. His vexatious nature
> has been well exposed in the relgious NG.
Don't tell me... you haunt the religious groups as well! Hell, what
does an avowed atheist frequent those groups for? To convert the
religious to non-religions??
> > > > > We should sit by and do nothing while fringe fanatics dominate with
> > > > > their loud voices?
> > > >
> > > > NAZIS ARE the lunatic "fringe fanatics" - ie YOU!
> > >
> > > Seeppo, you are a lunatic fringe. I know it desn't seem real to you
> > > yet but thas the way it is.
> >
> > Oh... S-U-R-E.... :-)
> >
> > Is that the best you can do? :-)
>
> Crticsms is just water of a ducks back to you these days.
You don't engage in "Crticsms", or even "criticism" but mindless,
juvenile ad hom, and yes it is water off a ducks back :-)
[..]
> > > > A NAZI cannot be termed "civilised" - a BARBARIAN is a better term.
> > > > YOU are then one promoting ETHNIC CLEANSING, for christ sake! How
> > > > BARBARIC is that! Your NAZI culture is NO PART of the Australian
> > > > culture. In fact our diggers HOT NAZIS, to rid the world of this
> > > > pestilence once and for all.
> > >
> > > Your fanticism certainly isn't. I am not a Nazi.
> >
> > You have ADMITTED TO IT voluntarily! You espouse NAZI ideology
> > continually! You HATE JEWS and do most ANYTHING to vilify them in all
> > ways. You pose terms like "neo-western" "WASP", and what amounts to
> > "race traitor", CLASSIC NAZI terms. As much NAZI as "Comrade" and
> > "proletariat" is to a communist!
>
> If I use the word collegue that maes me a Nazi or Brother macks me a
> black man?
Now you are being plain ridiculous, as well as barely literate.
>
> I will point out the hypocrisy of any individuals using their
> ethniticity and the "specatare" or racism to disadvantage others and
> advantage themselves.
What is "specatare"??? Please explain how *I* have used "racism to
disadvantage others"! I want the message ID, and the quoted text IN
CONTEXT, where you claim this has occurred! FAIL doing so and you will
label yourself as a HABITUAL LIAR!
Well, why bother, I know I have never done any such thing, so you are
already a HABITUAL LIAR. You have outright LIED about many things, as
identified in this post alone, which is FULL of your LIES.
You know, another aspect that really disgusts, is not only your
habitual lying, but the CONSTANT projection of your OWN major
character flaws onto others! Eg the "racism to disadvantage others" -
which is something you engage in constantly.
> Andrew Theophanous, was of similar opinion to you I think.
You see.. THIS is another example of it. I can, with the assistance of
extrinsic knowledge, say that your constant use of the name of "Andrew
Theophanous" is a demonstration of your racism. It relates to
IMMIGRATION, and the fact he was involved with immigration, in
particular as he offered some "special assistance" to immigrants to
aid them getting here. It is not only the fact that Andrew Theophanous
isn't a WASP, but that he assisted IMMIGRANTS, that you use his name
as a hate term, and a focus of your race hatred.
> > Add to that "A neo-western ethnic consciounsess(sic) is merely a
> > natural response to the excesses of these immigrant fruitloops","
>
> I appologise if that was misunderstood. You and Peter T are the only
> two specific frutiloops I was refereing to.
It alters nothing from the conclusions drawn from your use of it. You
see, I have already established you PROJECT your own despicable
character flaws onto others.
>
> A
> > CLEARLY understood meaning of NEO-NAZI! Then you claim "anti racist =
> > racist". Meaning "racist is good" another bit of NAZI ideology! No,
> > there is NO getting away from it, you are a NAZI!
>
> Blah, blah blah
You simply could no longer refute the claim I see.
> > > > > While they run immigration programs twice as large as
> > > > > they need to be or simply out of spite? While they control opinion
> > > > > with ad hominem and polical correctness?
> > > >
> > > > You lying Nazi turd! *I* don't run any immigration program at all.
> > > > However I see you are AGAINST the Australian government too! If you
> > > > don't LIKE it here, FUCK OFF!
> > >
> > > You promote it with all your efforts.
> >
> > Have I? Better take a few more of your reality pills! What *I* do is
> > give you a real kick in the arse for OFFENDING ME continually and with
> > INTENT, a calculated intent. Eg "immigrant fruitloops", promising
> > "ethnic cleaning" and other RACIST views. YOU kick an "ethnic" and you
> > kick ME. But remember, I KICK BACK and HARD!
>
> Seeppo the victim. How does your victimhood help you? You are quite
> attached to it.
Hey, YOU are the victim of my wrath!
>
> You're the most spitefull person on this NG Seeppo.
Not by a long shot. There are several others who have that honour. The
thing you find so distasteful is that I am exposing YOU for what YOU
are to YOURSELF! You no longer even LIKE yourself, as you are
DESPERATELY attempting to PROJECT your despicable personality traits
onto others.
> > > > > My own ethnic cosnciousness and nationalism did not arise till I came
> > > > > across that sort of scum.
> > > >
> > > > See.... you are getting there, admitting again to be one of THEM!
> > >
> > > We are all ethnics Seeppp. In your Multicultural dream world we are
> > > all ethnics.
> >
> > Yeah.... but NOT in YOUR world, in that world there are WASP's and
> > "scum". Which indicates what you really are yourself - eg SCUM -
> > recall you have earned the term "Pond Scum" already!
>
> Seeppo, if you wern't so vile you'd be a funny clown.
You see these "ethnics" aren't just a piece of "scum" you can wipe
your feet on you know! You don't like me holding a mirror up to you so
you can see yourself? Tough titties! You really NEED to know what you
are, so you don't constantly fool yourself.
[..]
> > > Rednecks is what you used to call us, thats how you dehumainized
> > > abroad swath of people with broadly different background.
> >
> > "Rednecks" are a different breed from Nazis - they are plain bigots.
> > There is a distinct step to a NAZI. A Barbarian, immoral being.
>
> By that standard you are clearly a Redneck, for you demonstrate your
> biggotry: biggot Someone attached to an opinion beyond reason.
You are PROJECTING AGAIN. You just can't stand your own very being can
you!
>
> Redneck is an Americanism you have appropriated: It refers to the
> sunburn hardworking midwestern farmers got from honourable toiling in
> the sun. The Approbium was added by swine like you to people you
> can't understand as a myth. A demon to use in your mindless
> propaganda.
"redneck" noun N. Amer. derogatory,: informal: a working-class white
person from the southern US, especially a politically reactionary one.
Do I have to teach you everything? When you add to it that THEY were
into Slavery in the South in a big way - you can understand how it is
related to people who are bigoted of race. But you have gone well
BEYOND mere bigotry, and have displayed all the characteristics of a
rabid NAZI.
[..]
> > > > The typical racists "defence", the "I have a friend an who is [insert
> > > > race]..."!! It isn't a "defence" but an admission of GUILT! It relies
> > > > on RACE as the significant component - a continuing preoccupation with
> > > > RACE!
> > >
> > > I merely point out that I am color blind in my functioning with
> > > people on an individual level.
> >
> > You cannot be as you are here, without it being quite apparent to one
> > of those whom you would use "ethnic cleansing" on. They are probably
> > vastly more polite than I am - and I have NO intention to be polite to
> > a person who vilifies me at every turn, in almost every post.
> >
> > > I think thats relvant as you accuse
> > > me of racial supremism all the time.
> >
> > I don't "accuse" you I state a FACT, a well displayed fact - there is
> > you, a self claimed WASP and there is "scum" and "immigrant
> > fruitloops", according to yourself in this very post!
>
> You are the specific immigrant fruitloop I am refering to.
Of course it is.... and VILIFY about 1/4 of ALL Australian at the same
time, you Nazi shit!
> It is not a generalisation.
1/4 of all Aussies are IMMIGRANTS, and you referred to IMMIGRANTS - ie
a GENERALISATION, you vile little Nazi!
> Most immigrants of your era would have come to
> enjoy living in Australia without an obsessive fruitloop like focus on
> Australophobia.
You don't KNOW my "era" - NOR do you KNOW that 1/4 of Australia's
population, so you CAN'T make that call - and you are fully aware you
don't know all immigrants, therefor YOU ARE A LIAR. But then you are
habitually so.
[..]
> > > Seppo, Seppo, Seppo. Just retire, you're fighting battles that were
> > > won decades ago.
> >
> > We thought.... but then there is the rise of this "Nationalism", and
> > those who take it to the EXTREMES, like you. There ARE organised Nazi
> > groups in Australia - if you are part of an organised group or not, I
> > don't know, nor CARE. You are one.
>
> Seppo, political correctness is the last refuge of scounderals.
Aha..... calling a Nazi a Nazi is "politically correct".... hmmmm....
I though it was merely CORRECT.... but you may well have a point,
Nazism, is a barbarian form of "politics", so I guess at the same time
I identify your politics correctly.
>
> I know what your are trying to do; any hint of loayalty or love to
> Australia and its people and traditions you will try and associate
> with a demonized Nazism. A techniqe as low as you are.
WRONG, but then you are into this projecting your own ethos onto
others. Fact is you HATE Australia and all ti stand for. You have made
that abundantly clear. Just think of it BUT FOR immigrants, YOU
WOULDN'T BE HERE - which means you hate yourself as well!
>
> It is you who are the evil fiend, a low swine.
I can see the "mirror" is working well, you keep talking to it :-)
>
> >
> > > Don't push a good thing too far.
> >
> > Oh, I don't think I have done that. I can claim success already! Your
> > attacking me has prevented you from spreading your propaganda :-)
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
>
> Hahahahah. Yes an invalid has plenty of time to spread shit I
> suppose.
Is that what "invalids" do? How do YOU know what invalids do? I can
tell you SOME fought in the war shooting NAZIS, and became an invalid
in the process..... perhaps that is what is getting your goat, the
shooting of NAZIS in the war?
> > > Karl Popper
> > > pointed ou that the demise of most societies lies in their excessive
> > > devotion to their fundemtnal ideal. Your anti-racism sophistry is
> > > such a thing and you are disppperaing slowly up you own oriface.
> >
> > Perhaps you should take not of Karl!! YOU are the one with the
> > fundamentalist ideas! ONE RACE - the WASPS..... the Nazi ideals!
>
> You are the one with an Anti-Western, Anti-Australian
> hyper-multiculturlaism.
...ahhhhh..... the Nazi "race traitor" claim again I see. See you just
can't help yourself.... you just can't get away from identifying
yourself as a NAZI, not even in your attempted abuse!!
>
> >
> > > If you keep doing this obsessive/fantatic thing you'll keep getting
> > > the same results.
> >
> > Ahhhh..... the "If I'm not allowed to be a Nazi, i'll become a Nazi.."
> > argument :-)
> > Heard it before, it is as loony now as it was then!!
>
> You create the world around you Seeeppo. Did you think your
> egotistical ramblings wouldn't draw a response.
Don't be so silly!! Of course I expected a response! You see I *KNOW*
you cannot resist, even when you cannot defend your stand :-)
Tipper
>
>
> The Enlightenment wrote:
> >
> > Seppo Renfors <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message
news:<3D00F690...@not.olles.com.au>...
> > > The Enlightenment wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Seppo Renfors <Ren...@not.olles.com.au> wrote in message
news:<3CFF5A1C...@not.olles.com.au>...
> > > > > The Enlightenment wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fyf...@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in message
news:<936eaee8.02060...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > > "peter terry" <namb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:<3cf87fbc$1...@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> > > > > > > > "francispoon" <fyf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:936eaee8.02053...@posting.google.com...
>
Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
This should be fun.
You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
Su Solomon
>
> Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> This should be fun.
> You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
thick as a brick
and you wonder why Seppo doesnt reply to your question?
LOL
By the way what did YOUR daddy 'do' during the war?
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> A leading Nazi hunting organisation yesterday said up to 22 suspected Nazis
> were living in Australia.
>
> The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the 22 suspects has served in auxiliary
> police battalions and local police units in Lithuania during WW II.
>
Interesting how Jews try and track down every last person who may been
connected with misdeeds against them, yet have entirely the opposite
view when it comes to their own:
THE INDEPENDENT
London, January 10, 1999
From Adam LeBor in Warsaw
The frontlines are being drawn in eastern Europe's latest conflict.
This is a
battle not over territory or borders, but for control of something
more
intangible and, for the continent's political health, more important:
memory
and historical justice. THIS YEAR marks 10 years since the collapse of
the
Berlin Wall, which triggered the end of the Soviet bloc and,
ultimately, the
Soviet Union itself. A decade after those first slabs of masonry came
crashing down, the noise reverberates still across the lands where the
Red
Star of Russia once ruled unchallenged. For nations, like people,
suffer from
the traumas that twist and shape their psyche: traumas of war and
occupation,
resistance and collaboration with dictatorships, Nazi or Soviet.
It is perhaps difficult for citizens of Britain, a country that has
not been
occupied for centuries, to imagine the mental scars left by Nazi and
Soviet
occupation and the choices of collaboration and compromise demanded by
a reign
of terror. Now officials are grappling with the question of how to
bring to
account those Communist officials who organised systematic human
rights abuses
including judicially-sanctioned torture and murder. Polish officials
are now
seeking the extradition of two alleged Communist-era criminals: Helena
Brus, a
former military prosecutor, now living in Oxford, and Salomon Morel,
one-time
commander of a Soviet detention camp, now living in Tel Aviv.
"This is payback time for the Stalinist period. The same excuses were
given by
Nazi war criminals. They said they were innocent because they were
just
following orders," said Zbigniew Wolak, veteran in the Polish Home
Army, many
of whose comrades were killed or imprisoned on their return to
post-war
Communist Poland by the Soviets and their local supporters. "You
cannot punish
the hundreds of thousands of people who were involved, but you can
bring to
justice those who were prominent. This is a battle for the memory of
future
generations. Either they will know the truth or it will be hidden."
But who to bring to justice, when the very nature of a totalitarian
regime
means that almost every citizen was, by their complicity in its
demands,
implicated to a greater or lesser degree, in its continuance?
Perfectly
preserved for decades in the vaults of national memory, these events
are now
rising to the surface of the consciousness of nations such as Poland,
triggering a spate of attempts by legal officials to win what they
believe is
belated justice, but what others call veng-eance - a vengeance forged
on the
anvil of ancient prejudices.
The attempt by Polish authorities to force the extradition of Helena
Brus, a
former Stalinist-era military prosecutor in 1950s Warsaw, from
Britain, has
highlighted an issue that is set to haunt the new democracies of
post-Communist eastern Europe for years to come. Last week, Poland's
Supreme
Court quashed an arrest warrant for Mrs Brus, formerly Wolinska.
Now married to an Oxford don, Wlodzimierz Brus, fellow of Wolfson
College,
Mrs Brus was accused of issuing an illegal arrest warrant for General
August
Emil Fieldorf, a leader of the Polish Home Army, who was hanged in
1953. Her
case is likely to go to appeal. Salomon Morel is wanted by the
prosecutor in
the southern Polish city of Katowice, charged with crimes against
humanity
while he was commander of Swietochlowice camp. More than 3,000
prisoners,
mainly Germans, were held at the camp during 1945; more than half died
or
were murdered, according to the Polish news agency.
Israel has refused his extradition, saying that the crimes with which
he is
charged are not seen there as genocide, and so are subject to statutes
of
limitations. Dorota Boriczek, now 68 and living in Ludwigsberg,
Germany, was
taken to Swietochlowice when she was 14, with her mother. Morel was a
cruel
and barbaric man, she said. "He was young and very brutal. He came in
at
night, we could hear the cries of the men as they were beaten, then
they
threw the bodies out."
TWO STRAIGHTFORWARD cases, then, of two aged, alleged criminals, with
blood
on their hands, either directly or indirectly, finally being called to
account. Except that these cases are anything but straightforward.
Both Mr
Brus and Mr Morel are Jewish, Holocaust survivors who lost many in
their
families to the Nazis. However bloody their hands seem, they were two
small
cogs in a machine, run by hundreds of thousands of Stalin's willing
functionaries. Many of those officials now live peacefully in Russia,
Ukraine
and Belarus. During 1997 and 1998, Poland did not make a single
extradition
request from these countries for former Communist officials, according
to the
Polish Ministry of Justice.
"The evidence against Salomon Morel is very damaging, but why, of all
the
commanders of the dozens of camps run by the Soviets, pick on him?"
asked
Konstanty Gebert, editor of the Warsaw-based Jewish magazine Midrasz.
"There
are no extradition requests to other countries where former NKVD
officers must
be living. "The Morel case is very worrying, because when the Poles
made the
extradition request they must have known that Israel had no legal
basis on
which to accept it. So either the experts at the Ministry of Justice
are
incompetent, or this was done to make Israel look bad."
For Maria Fieldorf-Czarska, who is daughter of the hanged General
Fieldorf and
is pressing for Mrs Brus's extradition, Poland has said sorry to Jews
too many
times. Now it is their turn to apologise to Poland, she claims. Mrs
Fieldorf-
Czarska, now 73 and living in Gdansk is blunt with her opinions.
"The sad truth is that our secret services in the 1950s were dominated
by
Jews. They were disposed to Communism, perhaps it is genetic. All the
people
connected with the arrest and prosecution of my father were Jewish,
and most
of them went to Israel. "Nobody says sorry to us, but nowadays we have
to say
sorry to Jews all the time. Our government apologised for the Jews
killed by
the Germans: now Israel should apologise to us."
Seppo Renfors
Su Solomon wrote:
>
> Tipper wrote:
> >
>
> > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > This should be fun.
> > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
>
> You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
>
> thick as a brick
>
> and you wonder why Seppo doesnt reply to your question?
>
> LOL
>
> By the way what did YOUR daddy 'do' during the war?
errrr..... you are presuming he did have one that he knows of. I'm not
at all sure that it is warranted.
Tipper
"Su Solomon" <su_...@dzemail.com> wrote in message
news:3D0430...@dzemail.com...
> Tipper wrote:
> >
>
> > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > This should be fun.
> > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
>
> You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
>
> thick as a brick
Listen you clueless deposit of mutilated camel droppings I wasn't addressing
you.
>
>
> and you wonder why Seppo doesnt reply to your question?
No I don't, because I know why:)
>
>
> LOL
>
>
> By the way what did YOUR daddy 'do' during the war?
Wasn't your mum that's for sure
Tipper
>
>
> Su Solomon wrote:
> >
> > Tipper wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > > This should be fun.
> > > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
> >
> > You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
> >
> > thick as a brick
> >
> > and you wonder why Seppo doesnt reply to your question?
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > By the way what did YOUR daddy 'do' during the war?
>
> errrr..... you are presuming he did have one that he knows of. I'm not
> at all sure that it is warranted.
>
Still haven't answered the question.
I wonder why that is?
Go on answer, I'm feeling in a wicket mood.
Just want to have fun.
--
"Let's get rid of Infirmary Feminism, with it's bedlam of bellyachers,
anorexics, bulimics, depressives, rape victims, and incest survivors.
Feminism has become a catch-all vegetable drawer where bunches of clingy sob
sisters can store their mouldy neuroses." Camila Paglia. (Vamps & Tramps,)
Neville Duguid
> "Su Solomon" <su_...@dzemail.com> wrote in message
> news:3D0430...@dzemail.com...
> > Tipper wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > > This should be fun.
> > > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
> >
> > You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
> >
> > thick as a brick
>
> Listen you clueless deposit of mutilated camel droppings I wasn't addressing
> you.
Here, Tipper, to put a serene smile on your face whenever you find
yourself the target of one of Su's budgerigar strength ear-pecking
frenzies, is a little song I wrote to commemorate her claims to Kookdom
in this newsgroup ;-)
"Life Was Meant to be Queasy for a Budgie named Su"
-------------------------------------------------
(sing to tune of Neil Diamond's "Song Sung Blue")
Song sung Su, you don't have to know one.
Just make it up, even as you go along.
Mother told me once! when I made my lunch!
Never to mix Su-meat with my ham,
(but I) never felt this way since the last time I held
A meat-axe in my hand----.
Su Chop Su-ee, Su-ee chop-chop-chop!
They used to call it fritz!
Now it's sold as devon in the shop.
It's extra chew-y
but you're sure to find it gluey if you stop.
Just give a whistle, if you find that gristle
Is spoiling your enjoyment of this meal.
We've got a stomach pump to clear the inside of your sump
No matter how you feel----.
--
Neville Duguid * "If work were good for you, the rich *
True Blue Aussie Web Site * would leave none for the poor." *
http://www.aussie-culture.net * - Haitian proverb. *
Tipper
"Neville Duguid" <nevi...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:1fdm5le.680co5hfly6aN%nevi...@bigpond.net.au...
You bugger, I will be humming that all evening now:)
Su Solomon
>
> "Su Solomon" <su_...@dzemail.com> wrote in message
> news:3D0430...@dzemail.com...
> > Tipper wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > > This should be fun.
> > > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
> >
> > You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
> >
> > thick as a brick
>
> Listen you clueless deposit of mutilated camel droppings I wasn't addressing
> you.
Of course not, you wouldnt know how to.
> >
> >
> > and you wonder why Seppo doesnt reply to your question?
>
> No I don't, because I know why:)
Because you are a dick head?
> >
> >
> > LOL
> >
> >
> > By the way what did YOUR daddy 'do' during the war?
>
> Wasn't your mum that's for sure
Even you ad homs are piss weak!
Su Solomon
>
> Tipper <tipp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Su Solomon" <su_...@dzemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3D0430...@dzemail.com...
> > > Tipper wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > > > This should be fun.
> > > > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
> > >
> > > You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
> > >
> > > thick as a brick
> >
> > Listen you clueless deposit of mutilated camel droppings I wasn't addressing
> > you.
>
> Here, Tipper, to put a serene smile on your face whenever you find
> yourself the target of one of Su's budgerigar strength ear-pecking
> frenzies, is a little song I wrote to commemorate her claims to Kookdom
> in this newsgroup ;-)
Still got a thing about me eh Nev?
Stay close to the garbage tip, you can both share the blow flies.
>
> "Life Was Meant to be Queasy for a Budgie named Su"
> -------------------------------------------------
> (sing to tune of Neil Diamond's "Song Sung Blue")
>
> Song sung Su, you don't have to know one.
> Just make it up, even as you go along.
> Mother told me once! when I made my lunch!
> Never to mix Su-meat with my ham,
> (but I) never felt this way since the last time I held
> A meat-axe in my hand----.
>
> Su Chop Su-ee, Su-ee chop-chop-chop!
> They used to call it fritz!
> Now it's sold as devon in the shop.
> It's extra chew-y
> but you're sure to find it gluey if you stop.
> Just give a whistle, if you find that gristle
> Is spoiling your enjoyment of this meal.
> We've got a stomach pump to clear the inside of your sump
> No matter how you feel----.
>
> --
> Neville Duguid * "If work were good for you, the rich *
> True Blue Aussie Web Site * would leave none for the poor." *
> http://www.aussie-culture.net * - Haitian proverb. *
--
Su Solomon
Another bloody useless blow fly, join Nev.
Tipper
> Tipper wrote:
> >
> > "Su Solomon" <su_...@dzemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3D0430...@dzemail.com...
> > > Tipper wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Septic tell us what "daddy did in the war"
> > > > This should be fun.
> > > > You ethno-Marxist piece of excrement.
> > >
> > > You are up there with ferdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
> > >
> > > thick as a brick
> >
> > Listen you clueless deposit of mutilated camel droppings I wasn't
addressing
> > you.
>
> Of course not, you wouldnt know how to.
Oh my gawd, is that one of your "Su's budgerigar strength ear-pecking
frenzies", as Neville categorised them. I'm all a ((((((trembling))))).
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > and you wonder why Seppo doesnt reply to your question?
> >
> > No I don't, because I know why:)
>
> Because you are a dick head?
Come on Su, you can do better than that.
Here's how you go about it.
You malevolent barrel of congealing amber enema.
You distended piece of contaminated boils.
You smelly truckload of fresh budgie droppings.
You depraved lump of synthetic nasal hairs.
You inhuman excuse for worm-infested gerbil droppings.
You slobbish skip of fornicating maggot fodder.
>
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way what did YOUR daddy 'do' during the war?
> >
> > Wasn't your mum that's for sure
>
>
> Even you ad homs are piss weak!
Dont tempt me.:)