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Ancient Israeli Myths Deter Peace

By Robert Parry (A Special Report)
July 9, 2009

The rationale for formally designating Israel a Jewish state � as Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu now demands � rests on three
religious-political pillars: God�s purported covenant with Moses
instructing the ancient Israelites to conquer the land, the injustice of
the Roman-era Diaspora that supposedly removed them centuries later, and
the brutal persecution of European Jews in the Holocaust.

Yet, two of these pillars � Moses conveying God�s covenant to the
Israelites and the Roman Diaspora � appear based on almost no historical
reality, the stuff of legend and possibly even lies that crumble under
any serious scrutiny.

Normally, such ancient stories might be regarded as harmless tales that
some people treasure as part of their Judeo-Christian faiths, except
that Netanyahu�s new demand means that these myths now threaten peace in
the Middle East and conceivably could push the modern world into more
bloody warfare. Therefore, they must be given fresh examination.

Ironically, it was the Nazis� drive to exterminate European Jews during
World War II that is the one pillar founded on historical reality,
although some extreme enemies of Israel insist on making Holocaust
denial a central feature of their attacks.

Also, some adversaries, like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have
argued that it is unfair to make the Palestinians pay for a crime
against humanity committed by the Germans.

Yet, the Holocaust is not in historical dispute. That horrible reality �
an industrial-style extermination campaign that also targeted Gypsies,
homosexuals and Communists � was proven after the World War II from a
multitude of Nazi records, photographs and eyewitness accounts.

It is the tales of Moses from the Torah (or the first five books of the
Old Testament) and the legend of the Roman Diaspora that lack serious
historical underpinnings.

The Diaspora myth has been addressed in a new book by Israeli historian
Shlomo Sand, When and How Was the Jewish People Invented? It debunks the
notion that Rome removed the Jewish people en masse from the Holy Land
in the First and Second Centuries A.D. and scattered them across Europe.

Instead, most East European Jews appear to be descendents of converts,
principally from the Kingdom of the Khazars in eastern Russia, who
embraced Judaism in the Eighth Century, A.D. The descendants of the
Khazars then were driven from their native lands by invasions and �
through migration � created the Jewish populations of Eastern Europe.

Thus, Sand argues, many of today�s Israelis who emigrated from Europe
after World War II have little or no genealogical connection to the
land. According to Sand, a bitter irony of Israel�s founding may be that
it displaced Palestinians who could be the actual descendants of the
ancient Israelites, who stayed on the land and eventually converted to
Islam.

Other descendants of those ancient Israelites maintained Judaism as a
strong presence in the Middle East, both in Palestine and in successful
communities from Egypt to Iraq and Iran. These Jews faced few religious
pressures until after Israel was founded in 1948, when this new European
intrusion into Islamic lands was viewed in the context of the Crusades a
millennium ago. [More on Sand�s book below.]

The Moses Myth

Yet, while questioning the Diaspora myth is a sensitive topic for many
Israelis and their supporters around the world, it is even touchier to
challenge the Biblical claim that God, through Moses, struck a covenant
with the Israelites to conquer the land and possess it for all time.

Because the Torah is sacred to Jews � and to many Christians as the
revealed word of God in the Old Testament � it has been dangerous to
examine the factual history behind these texts in an objective manner.

For centuries, the Catholic Church and some Protestant faiths persecuted
anyone who questioned Moses�s supposed authorship of the chapters even
though their internal contradictions and the description of Moses�s
death at the end of Deuteronomy made that long-held belief untenable.

As Richard Elliott Friedman recounts in his 1987 book, Who Wrote the
Bible?, �Religious opposition to the new investigation (into the
traditional belief about Moses�s authorship) persisted during the 19th
Century� and didn�t collapse until 1943 when Pope Pius XII �encouraged
scholars to pursue knowledge about the biblical writers.�

Modern Biblical scholars now agree that Moses was not the author of the
Torah, that the stories were passed down orally from the 14th Century
B.C. and were put into writing centuries later. But the legendary
figure of Moses has remained almost beyond criticism, not only for many
Jews but for people of the Christian and Islamic faiths. (He is treated
as a holy messenger in the Koran.)

Many Americans think of Moses as the angry but righteous leader as
portrayed by Charlton Heston in the 1956 epic �The Ten Commandments,� or
they think of their feel-good Bible studies as children. Yet, many
archaeologists believe that the Moses stories were largely made up.

�This is what archaeologists have learned from their excavations in the
Land of Israel: the Isrealites were never in Egypt, did not wander in
the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign and did not
pass it on to the 12 tribes of Israel,� summed up Professor Ze�ev
Herzog, director of the Institute of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University.

�The many Egyptian documents that we have make no mention of the
Israelites� presence in Egypt and are also silent about the events of
the Exodus.�

However, other scholars believe that some Israelites did emigrate to
Egypt, suffered in servitude there, and may have been led back to Canaan
by Moses or a Moses-like leader.

Nevertheless, because of the powerful influence of the Torah (and the
Old Testament), the biblical Moses carries extraordinary religious and
historical weight, inspiring Israeli settlers to claim Palestinian lands
as rightfully theirs and rallying fundamentalist Christians across the
American heartland to embrace whatever actions the Israelis take.

A Tyrannical Leader

But who was Moses?

According to biblical lore, Moses was a Hebrew child raised in the royal
Egyptian court before breaking with his protectors and remaking himself
into a leader of Hebrew slaves. He guided them out of Egypt and
transformed them, as they wandered for decades in the Sinai desert, into
an Israelite nation, giving them specific laws and detailed rules of
behavior.

During that time, Moses announced a covenant with God that granted the
Israelites permanent dominion over the lands across the Jordan River,
and he instructed them to destroy other peoples inhabiting those
territories. Moses, however, never returned to the Promised Land, dying
near the Jordan, before the conquest began.

Though Moses is regarded by many as a great law giver (the Ten
Commandants) and as a major force in the formation of monotheism (the
belief in one God), the text of the Torah present him as a cruel and
tyrannical leader.

From a modern perspective, Moses might be viewed as a �dictator who
killed his own people� when they disobeyed him and an advocate of
genocide against outsiders. His claims that he spoke with the Lord sound
more like a megalomaniac who believed he could scare a primitive people
into following his orders by claiming they were edicts from God.

Indeed, over the centuries, many tyrants have used religion (especially
monotheism) to justify repression and to eliminate enemies and rivals.
The religious wars in Europe during the Middle Ages are a classic
example of how kings and popes wrapped their personal power in the
bloody cloak of religion, torturing and burning alive �heretics� who
wouldn�t submit.

The biblical Moses appears to have been such a tyrant, though the Sunday
school version often played down this extreme side of his personality.

In Exodus, for instance, there is the famous story of the Israelites
creating a visible idol of their God in the form of a golden calf while
Moses is absent on Mount Sinai. When Moses returns with stone tablets
conveying laws of behavior, he is furious and smashes the tablets.

According to the Torah, Moses then grinds up the golden calf, mixes it
with water and makes the Israelites drink it. Then, Moses recruits what
we would today call a �death squad.�

The Torah reads: �Moses stood at the gate of the camp and said, �Whoever
is for the Lord, to me!� And the Levites gathered round him. And he said
to them, �Thus said the Lord God of Israel, �Put every man his sword on
his thigh, and cross over and back from gate to gate in the camp, and
each man kill his brother and each man his fellow and each man his kin��
And the Levites did according to the word of Moses, and about three
thousand men of the people fell on that day.�

In other words, Moses ordered a massacre of Israelites whom he regarded
as his enemies, people who had challenged his authority in the form of
dancing around the golden calf.

Robert Alter in his 2004 book, The Five Books of Moses, comments on
Moses�s instruction: �each man kill his brother,� etc.

�This chilling command enjoins the sword-wielding Levites to show no
mercy to friend or kin,� Alter wrote. �The figure of three thousand dead
in the next verse indicates that this is not an indiscriminate massacre
but an assault on the ringleaders � or perhaps, those guilty of the most
egregious excesses � among the orgiasts.�

Higher Authority

It also seemed that whenever Moses was setting some rule, whether as
grand as the Ten Commandants or as minor as personal hygiene, he always
invoked the Almighty.

In Leviticus, for instance, God supposedly takes a direct interest in
dictating how women should be treated after childbirth, with one set of
rules for giving birth to sons and another for daughters.

According to this account, the Lord tell Moses, �Speak to the
Israelites, saying �Should a woman quicken with seed and bear a male,
she shall be unclean seven days, as in the days of her menstrual
unwellness she shall be unclean. And on the eighth day, the flesh of his
foreskin shall be circumcised. And thirty days and three she shall stay
in her blood purity. She shall touch no consecrated thing nor shall she
come into the sanctuary till the days of her purity are completed.

�And if she bears a female, she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her
menstruation, and sixty days and six she shall stay over her blood
purity. And when the days of her purity are completed, whether for a son
or for a daughter, she shall bring a yearling lamb for a burnt offering
and a young pigeon or a turtledove for an offense offering to the
entrance of the Tent of Meeting, to the priest. And he shall bring it
forward before the Lord and atone for her, and she shall be clean from
the flowing of her blood.�

If you think that�s a lot of unnecessary detail, you should read the
Lord�s instructions via Moses for how to assess whether a boil is
leprosy or not.

In Deuteronomy, Moses explains to the Israelites about their right to
reclaim the land of their forefathers, again speaking for God:

�And the Lord your God shall bring you to the land that your fathers
took hold of, and you shall take hold of it, and He shall do well with
you and make you more multitudinous than your fathers.�

Moses also makes clear that God expected the conquest to include
massacres and genocide. Again speaking for the Lord, Moses said:

�I will bring back vengeance on My foes and My enemies I will requite. I
will make My shafts drunk with blood, and My sword will eat up flesh
from the blood of the fallen and captive, from the flesh of the
long-haired foe.�

In his final blessing to the Israelites, Moses makes the genocide
message even more explicit, painfully so. He called on them to �smash
the loins of [the Lord�s] foes, that His enemies rise no more. � Your
enemies cower before you and you on their backs will tread.�

So, more than 3,000 years later, should a modern state like Israel be
demanding that Palestinians recognize Israel as an explicitly Jewish
state, as Netanyahu now says?

The Diaspora Myth

The second pillar � the Roman Diaspora � also comes from ancient times
though not as far back as the stories of Moses. If anything, however,
the Diaspora has less of a historical basis.

In When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?, Dr. Sand, an expert on
European history at the University of Tel Aviv, says the Jews were never
exiled en masse from the Holy Land and that the myth of the Diaspora was
used by Zionists over the past century to buttress their argument for
creating Israel.

Sand, a European Jew born in 1946 to Holocaust survivors in Austria,
argues that until the Zionist movement arose, Jews thought of themselves
as Jews because they shared a common religion, not because they
possessed a direct lineage to the ancient tribes of Israel.

However, at the turn of the 20th Century, Sand asserts, Zionist Jews
began assembling a national history to justify creation of a Jewish
state by inventing the idea that Jews existed as a people separate from
their religion and that they had primogeniture over the territory that
had become known as Palestine.

The Zionists also invented the idea that Jews living in exile were
obligated to return to the Promised Land, a concept that had been
foreign to Judaism, Sand states.

If Sand�s thesis is correct � and it has faced no substantive rebuttal �
it would suggest that many of the Palestinian Arabs have a far more
substantial claim to the lands of Israel than do many European Jews who
arrived there asserting a God-given claim.

Indeed, Sand theorizes that many Jews, who remained in Judea after Roman
legions crushed the last uprising in 136 A.D., eventually converted to
Christianity or Islam, meaning that the Palestinians who have been
crowded into Gaza or concentrated in the West Bank might be direct
descendants of Jews from the Roman era.

In his book � and in an interview with Haaretz about his book � Sand
challenged the myth that the Romans relocated the Jews by force to
Europe. In the interview, he said:

"I started looking in research studies about the exile from the land - a
constitutive event in Jewish history, almost like the Holocaust. But to
my astonishment I discovered that it has no literature. The reason is
that no one exiled the people of the country.

�The Romans did not exile peoples and they could not have done so even
if they had wanted to. They did not have trains and trucks to deport
entire populations. That kind of logistics did not exist until the 20th
Century. From this, in effect, the whole book was born: in the
realization that Judaic society was not dispersed and was not exiled."

The True Descendants

Asked if he was saying that the true descendants of the inhabitants of
the Kingdom of Judah are the Palestinians, Sand responded:

"No population remains pure over a period of thousands of years. But the
chances that the Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Judaic
people are much greater than the chances that you or I are its descendents.

�The first Zionists, up until the Arab Revolt [1936-1939], knew that
there had been no exiling, and that the Palestinians were descended from
the inhabitants of the land. They knew that farmers don't leave until
they are expelled.

�Even Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, the second president of the State of Israel,
wrote in 1929 that, 'the vast majority of the peasant farmers do not
have their origins in the Arab conquerors, but rather, before then, in
the Jewish farmers who were numerous and a majority in the building of
the land.'"

Criticism of Sand�s book has focused mostly on his credentials as an
expert on European history, not ancient Middle Eastern history, a point
that Sand readily acknowledges.

One critic, Israel Bartal, dean of humanities at the Hebrew University,
attacked Sand�s credentials, but disagreed mostly over Sand�s assertion
that the Diaspora story was created as an intentional myth by Zionists
seeking to fabricate a direct genealogical connection between many of
the world�s Jews and Israel.

�Although the myth of an exile from the Jewish homeland (Palestine) does
exist in popular Israeli culture, it is negligible in serious Jewish
historical discussions,� Bartal wrote in the newspaper Haaretz.
�Important groups in the Jewish national movement expressed reservations
regarding this myth or denied it completely.�

In other words, Bartal is not so much disputing Sand�s historical claims
about the Diaspora or the origins of Eastern European Jews, as he is
contesting Sand�s notion that Zionists concocted a false history for a
cynical political purpose.

But there can be no doubt that the story of the Diaspora has played a
key role in the founding of Israel and that the appeal of this powerful
narrative has helped generate sympathy around the world, especially in
the United States.

"After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people remained
faithful to it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and
hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their
political freedom," reads the preamble to the Israeli Declaration of
Independence.

As recently as Israeli�s bombardment of Gaza in January 2009, the myth
of the Diaspora was used to justify the slaughter of some 1,400
Palestinians dead, including many children and other non-combatants.
When the Israeli government investigated alleged war crimes by its army,
Israeli troops testified that extremist Rabbis had proclaimed the
invasion a holy war.

The troops said the Rabbis brought them booklets and articles declaring:
�We are the Jewish people. We came to this land by a miracle. God
brought us back to this land, and now we need to fight to expel the
non-Jews who are interfering with our conquest of this holy land.�

Today, with the emergence of a new Likud-led government in Israel, the
Diaspora myth and Moses legends are intruding again on the prospects for
finally achieving peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Prime Minister Netanyahu has insisted on a new precondition for talks �
that the Palestinians must agree to a �public, binding and unequivocal�
recognition that Israel is �the nation state of the Jewish people,� not
simply the nation state of the people of Israel. Netanyahu is making
this demand although Arabs make up about 20 percent of Israel�s population.

This appears to be another case of ancient bloody myths contributing to
a modern bloody reality.

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the
Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Neck Deep: The
Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, was written with two of his
sons, Sam and Nat, and can be ordered at neckdeepbook.com. His two
previous books, Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from
Watergate to Iraq and Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press &
'Project Truth' are also available there. Or go to Amazon.com.

Peter Webb

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"JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
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> Ancient Israeli Myths Deter Peace
>
> By Robert Parry (A Special Report)
> July 9, 2009
>
> The rationale for formally designating Israel a Jewish state � as Prime
> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu now demands � rests on three
> religious-political pillars: God�s purported covenant with Moses
> instructing the ancient Israelites to conquer the land, the injustice of
> the Roman-era Diaspora that supposedly removed them centuries later, and
> the brutal persecution of European Jews in the Holocaust.
>

No, that's not true. None of these were reasons given by the UN for the
formation of Israel, and AFAIK none of them have been advanced by the
Israeli government or anybody else as a reason for declaring Israel to be a
Jewish State.

This first paragraph of this story you posted is complete fiction. And as
the whole story is based upon this premise, the whole thing is fiction.

Unless, of course, you have any evidence (ha ha).

Why do you feel it is necessary to post lies? Truth doesn't suit you?

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Jul 10, 2:34 am, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "JMD Morgan" <JohnM...@email.non> wrote in message

>
> news:x_6dnQZdZMUazsvX...@giganews.com...
>
> > Ancient Israeli Myths Deter Peace
>
> > By Robert Parry (A Special Report)
> > July 9, 2009
>
> > The rationale for formally designating Israel a Jewish state – as Prime
> > Minister Benjamin Netanyahu now demands – rests on three
> > religious-political pillars: God’s purported covenant with Moses

> > instructing the ancient Israelites to conquer the land, the injustice of
> > the Roman-era Diaspora that supposedly removed them centuries later, and
> > the brutal persecution of European Jews in the Holocaust.
>
> No, that's not true. None of these were reasons given by the UN for the
> formation of Israel, and AFAIK none of them have been advanced by the
> Israeli government or anybody else as a reason for declaring Israel to be a
> Jewish State.
>
> This first paragraph of this story you posted is complete fiction. And as
> the whole story is based upon this premise, the whole thing is fiction.
>
> Unless, of course, you have any evidence (ha ha).
>
> Why do you feel it is necessary to post lies? Truth doesn't suit you?

He is quite correct on the contrary & one of the most important
element of the Jew system is the achievement of the Chosen Race !
This is done
1 Tthrough circumcision which is in fact a genetic manipulation acting
directly on the Endocrine system which is indeed he interface to the
Human genome.
2) Through strict Kosher Rules whose aim are to avoid any interference
to the new genetic code ( through 1st day of 1st puberty mutilation of
the genital intern aka Intersticiel) by the HORMONES contained in the
blood of slaughtered animals§

Hence the two Pillars of the Jews Alien system is the 8th day
mutilation & the stability of such modified genome by Kosher Rules

... and the famous Salomon Temple is in fact a Ritual Slaughter House
with all that hogwash compiled in the Torah & Bible as a SMOKE SCREEN
TO THE PERMANENT TRANSFORMATION OF HUMAN BEING SINCE 6000 YEARS INTO
ALIEN PREDATORS !

... a Jew is not born a Jew but is made a Jew ...
Just like an Islamist being a degeneracy of Arabs through the 2n
puberty mutilation aka circumcision !

CIRCUMCISION IS A SACRILEGE TO THE LAWS OF NATURE GIVEN TO US BY THE
CREATOR !

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~


for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
True Geology Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947

AStext

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On Jul 10, 11:34 am, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "JMD Morgan" <JohnM...@email.non> wrote in message

>
> news:x_6dnQZdZMUazsvX...@giganews.com...
>
> > Ancient Israeli Myths Deter Peace
>
> > By Robert Parry (A Special Report)
> > July 9, 2009
>
> > The rationale for formally designating Israel a Jewish state – as Prime
> > Minister Benjamin Netanyahu now demands – rests on three
> > religious-political pillars: God’s purported covenant with Moses

> > instructing the ancient Israelites to conquer the land, the injustice of
> > the Roman-era Diaspora that supposedly removed them centuries later, and
> > the brutal persecution of European Jews in the Holocaust.
>
> No, that's not true. None of these were reasons given by the UN for the
> formation of Israel, and AFAIK none of them have been advanced by the
> Israeli government or anybody else as a reason for declaring Israel to be a
> Jewish State.
>
> This first paragraph of this story you posted is complete fiction. And as
> the whole story is based upon this premise, the whole thing is fiction.
>
> Unless, of course, you have any evidence (ha ha).
>
> Why do you feel it is necessary to post lies? Truth doesn't suit you?

He can't handle the truth.

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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aOn Jul 11, 5:56 am, AStext <ast...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 11:34 am, "Peter Webb"
>

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On Jul 10, 5:31 am, JMD Morgan <JohnM...@email.non> wrote:
> Ancient Israeli Myths Deter Peace
Even if you want to believe the written jewish scriptures they CLEARLY
show that their GOD threw them out of the promised land in the year
586 BC

So all claims they make as to GOD giving them the land fall on this
FACT according to THEIR own book GOD canceled his partnership with the
jews 2500 years ago
The Babylonian captivity, or Babylonian exile, is the name typically
given to the deportation and exile of the Jews of the ancient Kingdom
of Judah to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar II in 586 BCE.

GOD threw jews out in 586


The FACT that the letter J was only INVENTED in 1600 CE also raises
some very interesting questions


Jesus Christ would NEVER EVER have ever heard the words Jesus Christ
or Jew or Judah

The letter J did not EXIST and the GREEK word Christ was a foreign
language

History

J was originally used as a swash character to end some Roman numerals
in place of i. There was an emerging distinctive use in Middle High
German.[3] Gian Giorgio Trissino (1478-1550) was the first to
explicitly distinguish I and J as representing separate sounds, in his
Ɛpistola del Trissino de le lettere nuωvamente aggiunte ne la lingua
italiana ("Trissino's epistle about the letters recently added in the
Italian language") of 1524[4].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J
Originally, both I and J represented /i/, /iː/, and /j/; but
Romance languages developed new sounds (from former /j/ and /ɡ/) that
came to be represented as I and J; therefore, English J (from French
J) has a sound value quite different from /j/ (which represents the
sound in the English word "yet").
.


> Many Americans think of Moses as the angry but righteous leader as

> portrayed by Charlton Heston in the 1956 epic “The Ten Commandments,” or


> they think of their feel-good Bible studies as children.

Yet, many > archaeologists believe that the Moses stories were
largely made up.

“This is what archaeologists have learned from their excavations in


the
Land of Israel: the Isrealites were never in Egypt, did not wander in
the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign and did
not

pass it on to the 12 tribes of Israel,” summed up Professor Ze’ev


Herzog, director of the Institute of Archaeology at Tel Aviv
University.
>

> “The many Egyptian documents that we have make no mention of the
> Israelites’ presence in Egypt and are also silent about the events of
> the Exodus.”

>  From a modern perspective, Moses might be viewed as a “dictator who
> killed his own people” when they disobeyed him and an advocate of


> genocide against outsiders. His claims that he spoke with the Lord sound
> more like a megalomaniac who believed he could scare a primitive people
> into following his orders by claiming they were edicts from God.
>

> The Torah reads: “Moses stood at the gate of the camp and said, ‘Whoever
> is for the Lord, to me!’ And the Levites gathered round him. And he said
> to them, ‘Thus said the Lord God of Israel, “Put every man his sword on


> his thigh, and cross over and back from gate to gate in the camp, and

> each man kill his brother and each man his fellow and each man his kin”’


> And the Levites did according to the word of Moses, and about three

> thousand men of the people fell on that day.”

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abia...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Blah, blah, blah! You are so boring. Let's have some fun! Call me at
> www.thai1ove1inks.com .
>
> Here are my websites:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/641569O1@NOO/
>
> http://www.f1ickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_fi1thy_smelly_pussy/
>
> You like?
>

Nope. Seen better.


>

abian...@yahoo.com

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Jul 11, 2009, 9:56:27 AM7/11/09
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You Fascist Pig! How dare you insult a woman trying to make an honest
living? Would you rather have that I go and mug people in dark alleys
or sell drugs to children in schools?


On Jul 11, 8:06 am, B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:


> abianc...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Blah, blah, blah! You are so boring. Let's have some fun! Call me at
> >www.thai1ove1inks.com.
>
> > Here are my websites:
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/641569O1@NOO/
>

> >http://www.f1ickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_fi1thy_smelly_...


>
> > You like?
>
> Nope. Seen better.
>
>
>

report2009

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Jul 11, 2009, 11:03:24 AM7/11/09
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Psycho Tienxia (WanLF), you have been faking abianchen’s account over
a year for revenge. You don’t even have balls be yourself. You are a
coward and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!

Beware: This psycho Tienxia is using stolen Thai girl’s photos to
frame Chinese guy, abianchen because original abianchen exposed psycho
Tienxia’s racist act in 2007.

Original abianchen: abia...@my-deja.com since May, 2000.

Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): various abianc*@*.com but they are
all fake for his own revenge against original abianchen. Tienxia =
anti-AbianchenVirus = WanLF = racist troll Chairman Mao…


On Jul 11, 9:56 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abian_ch...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

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abian...@yahoo.com

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Jul 11, 2009, 3:09:46 PM7/11/09
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Blah, blah, blah! You are so boring. Let's have some fun! Call me at
www.thailovelinks.com .

Here are my websites:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_pussy/

You like?


On Jul 11, 7:08 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Italian language") of 1524[4].http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J

> > dancing around the golden calf.- Hide quoted text -

rst9

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Jul 11, 2009, 11:26:51 PM7/11/09
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On Jul 11, 12:09 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abian_ch...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Blah, blah, blah! You are so boring. Let's have some fun! Call me atwww.thailovelinks.com.
>
> Here are my websites:http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_...
>
> You like?

abianchen cunt stink too much.

report2009

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Jul 12, 2009, 1:00:38 AM7/12/09
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Psycho Tienxia (WanLF), you have been faking abianchen’s account over
a year for revenge. You don’t even have balls be yourself. You are a
coward and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!

Beware: This psycho Tienxia is using stolen Thai girl’s photos to
frame Chinese guy, abianchen because original abianchen exposed psycho
Tienxia’s racist act in 2007.

Original abianchen: abia...@my-deja.com since May, 2000.

Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): various abianc*@*.com but they are
all fake for his own revenge against original abianchen. Tienxia =
anti-AbianchenVirus = WanLF = racist troll Chairman Mao…


On Jul 11, 3:09 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abian_ch...@yahoo.com>
wrote:


> Blah, blah, blah! You are so boring. Let's have some fun! Call me atwww.thailovelinks.com.
>
> Here are my websites:http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/
>

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_...

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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