A forum poll. Why do Asians dislike Blacks?
Bad Boy
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>Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
>
>
thoughtful answers. how would you answer the question if the role was
reversed, i.e., "just give one reason why you as a black dislike asians?"
Angrymob
Bad Boy wrote:
> Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
I'll name several;
1. They are dishonest.
2. They smell.
3. They hate Asians.
4. They are rude.
5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
6. They have no educational goals.
7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
8. They will do anything for the previous three things, kill, steal,
rob, etc.
9. They bitch and whine about a system that mistreats them when Asians
became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
10. OJ Simpson.
am
Nightfall
>
> Just give one reason why I need to self-administer an enema.
LSC400
>2. They smell.
>3. They hate Asians.
>4. They are rude.
>5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
>6. They have no educational goals.
>7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
>8. They will do anything for the previous three things, kill, steal, rob, etc.
>9. They bitch and whine about a system that mistreats them when Asians
>became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
>10. OJ Simpson.
hahahaha so true
Htin Aung Moe
American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
different.
LSC400
>American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
>been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
>got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
>is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
>good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
>American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
>comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
>different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
>different.
Yes yes, there are always exceptions. But I think the number of blacks who fit
that description is more or less equal to the number of Asians who are under 6
feet tall.
LSC400
ARE talking about African Americans here. There's another reason why Asians are
the model minority -- we don't go out of our way to bother anyone.
Jim Tsou
Htin Aung Moe wrote:
> No it is not true. At least you guys should keep a limit "They = Afro
> American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
> been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
> got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
> is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
> good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
> American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
> comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
> different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
> different.
Yes, I think this is very true. Most immigrants that come to this country
come to make a better life for themselves especially if they are from a
much poorer homeland. I doubt people like that would squander the
opportunity. On the other hand, many Black Americans start off with
2 strikes against them. In a system that encourages mediocrity (where
getting a C is considered good work), and when parents (if there are
that many) care more about drugs than the well being of their kids. And
with only themselves to fend for, I can see why there is such a big
difference between Africans and Black Americans.
K-Bar
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Htin Aung Moe wrote:
> LSC400 wrote:
> >
> > >1. They are dishonest.
I don't lie it's too much hard work. Every lie needs a series of
back up lies and counter lies. Why bother the truth is a lot simpler.
> > >2. They smell.
I have a sense of smell.
> > >3. They hate Asians.
No. I hate the entire human race. I do however like individuals
from the various groups.
> > >4. They are rude.
You mean they do things like go on usenet and post sweeping
generalizations about ethnic groups they know nothing about? Stuff like
that?
> > >5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
Never have to this point.
> > >6. They have no educational goals.
I have a B.A. in Communications and hope to go to film school.
> > >7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
Let's see: don't do drugs, thought ALL heterosexual MEN wanted
women, and could live without alcohol.
> > >8. They will do anything for the previous three things, kill, steal, rob,
etc.
You forgot work long hours on a low paying job to pay their way
through school.
> > >9. They bitch and whine about a system that mistreats them when Asians
> > >became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
With the exception of a few fucked up California laws in the late
1800's and the Chinese exclusion act there were no "jim crow" type laws
designed to keep Asians "in their place." Last time I checked if an Asian
guy and a black guy (neither of whom possessed a criminal record) drove
down the same street in the same model/year car which would be more likely
to be pulled over and accused of being either a drug dealer or a car
theif?
10. OJ Simpson.
Yawn. Let me guess the Boulder, Colorado grand jury will state that he
killed Jean Bennet Ramsey right? She was cute young and blonde and we all
know how O.J. loves young blondes right?
>hahahaha so true
You're a sad misinformed man.
> No it is not true. At least you guys should keep a limit "They = Afro
> American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
> been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
> got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
> is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
> good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
> American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
> comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
> different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
> different.
>
>
So you're saying Africans are alright...but American blacks are a
problem? (Sigh) Thank you. Do me a favor pal, look at the racist bullshit
he posted and look at yours and ask me why an honest Black man/African
American (or whatever we're being called this week) shouldn't be just as
offended by your statements. By the way I cross-posted this to
soc.culture.african.american so that you can ask ACTUAL black PEOPLE
rather than going on little preconceptions about them. K-Bar
K-Bar
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
> >No it is not true. At least you guys should keep a limit "They = Afro
> >American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
> >been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
> >got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
> >is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
> >good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
> >American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
> >comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
> >different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
> >different.
>
> Yes yes, there are always exceptions. But I think the number of blacks who fit
> that description is more or less equal to the number of Asians who are under 6
> feet tall.
>
> So tell me kid. What color is the sky in that world of yours? If
animosity exist between blacks and Asians I think a good part of it stems
from narrow minded assholes like yourself who believe every sound-byte
they see on the evening news rather than going out to meet actual people.
Grow the fuck up kid. K-Bar
> >
K-Bar
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Jim Tsou wrote:
>
>
> Htin Aung Moe wrote:
>
> > No it is not true. At least you guys should keep a limit "They = Afro
> > American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
> > been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
> > got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
> > is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
> > good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
> > American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
> > comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
> > different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
> > different.
>
>
> Yes, I think this is very true. Most immigrants that come to this country
> come to make a better life for themselves especially if they are from a
> much poorer homeland. I doubt people like that would squander the
> opportunity. On the other hand, many Black Americans start off with
> 2 strikes against them. In a system that encourages mediocrity (where
> getting a C is considered good work), and when parents (if there are
> that many) care more about drugs than the well being of their kids. And
> with only themselves to fend for, I can see why there is such a big
> difference between Africans and Black Americans.
>
>
Sweeping generalization there Jim. Neither of my parents does/did drugs
and I grew up with BOTH of them. K-Bar
>
LSC400
>problem? (Sigh) Thank you. Do me a favor pal, look at the racist bullshit
>he posted and look at yours and ask me why an honest Black man/African
>American (or whatever we're being called this week) shouldn't be just as
>offended by your statements. By the way I cross-posted this to
>soc.culture.african.american so that you can ask ACTUAL black PEOPLE
>rather than going on little preconceptions about them. K-Bar
Your pathetic attempts to disprove his ever-true generalizations by using ONE
PERSON EXAMPLES will get you nowhere. And no one needs to ASK anyone; anyone
who's graduated high school has probably had enough real-world experience with
black people. And you can't use the word "PREconception" either, because that
implies judging beforehand.
LSC400
>animosity exist between blacks and Asians I think a good part of it stems
>from narrow minded assholes like yourself who believe every sound-byte
>they see on the evening news rather than going out to meet actual people.
>Grow the fuck up kid. K-Bar
No, the biggest part comes from blacks themselves. In any given situation,
black punks go out of their way to harass anyone of any other race. On any
level -- as adults, in high school, or junior high school. Anyone can testify.
Even sorry kids' shows like "Family Matters" (not to mention those UPN comedies)
is racist towards whites. Blacks do a very good job of convincing this country
that they're the most racist group. If you're none of that, good for you. But
if you can't accept the embarassment you must have about the majority of your
race and want to keep whining, keep it in the black newsgroup where you can
discuss it amongst yourselves, because I'm sure no one here cares. By the way,
here's a pretty amusing little statistic -- did you know that 1/3rd of the men
in your race are jailbirds? You must be proud.
K-Bar
GASP! Really! Uh, dickbreath I know the definition of the word
"preconception." By its use I meant to imply that you don't know all black
people and I doubt that you went out and conducted an extensive survey or
experiments involving several test subjects, variable groups and a control
group so it's safe to assume that you don't know what you're talking
about. Yes you're going by what LITTLE exposure you've had to blacks as a
group, HENCE the word PRECONCEPTION applies. Do us both a favor and don't
try to give me grammar lessons kid. You wan't examples that don't go along
with your addle-minded stereotypes?
Garret Morgan, W.E.B. Dubois, Booker T. Washington, George Washington
Carver, Dr Charles Drew, Martin Luther King Jr, A Phillip Randolph,
Frederick Douglass, Frank E. Peterson Jr, Fred Cherry, Mary McCloud
Bethune, Shirley Chisolm, Adam Clayton Powell, Oscar Mischeaux, Barbara
Jordan and a list of men and women whose accomplishments you aren't fit
to consider. By the way you'll note I didn't mention any professional
athletes or entertainers and none of the affore mentioned had a criminal
record punk. K-Bar
> >
K-Bar
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
> > So tell me kid. What color is the sky in that world of yours? If
> >animosity exist between blacks and Asians I think a good part of it stems
> >from narrow minded assholes like yourself who believe every sound-byte
> >they see on the evening news rather than going out to meet actual people.
> >Grow the fuck up kid. K-Bar
>
> No, the biggest part comes from blacks themselves. In any given situation,
> black punks go out of their way to harass anyone of any other race.
And in some cases members of their own race. Young hardheaded bastards
harass everyone. The fact that I'm black doesn't make me immune.
On any level -- as adults, in high school, or junior high school. Anyone
can testify.
> Even sorry kids' shows like "Family Matters" (not to mention those UPN
comedies) is racist towards whites. Blacks do a very good job of
convincing this country that they're the most racist group.
So Urkell was a racist? Sure kid. Racism is an institution. You need
money and power to be a racist and from what I've seen blacks have
neither. Blacks can't be racist but can be bigots, much the same way
you're being a bigot.
If you're none of that, good for you. But if you can't accept the
embarassment you must have about the majority of your race and want to
keep whining, keep it in the black newsgroup where you can discuss it
amongst yourselves, because I'm sure no one here cares.
Scroll this newgroup kid. "K-Bar" has been appearing here for some time
now and I sure as hell don't plan on going anywhere because some bigoted
little punk-assed motherfucker like you has a problem with blacks. And no
punk I'm not embarrassed to be a descendant of a people strong enough and
resourceful enough to survive hundreds of years of slavery and oppression.
Nor am I embarrarased that though the school system of it's time prevented
my grandfather from going past the 3rd grade I have a college degree. Does
it bother me that there are more black men in prison than in universities?
Yes. Does it embarrass me? No, because I view it as a temporary setback.
Incidentally fuck face if you ask a loaded question like "Why do blacks
hate Asians?" you'd have to be an imbecile not to think that some blacks
would answer.
By the way, here's a pretty amusing little statistic -- did you know that
1/3rd of the men in your race are jailbirds? You must be proud.
I'm proud that I'm part of the 66.33% who aren't. The way I see it we
still have them outnumbered. You were saying? :-/ K-Bar
>
>
>
>
Susan Cohen
Susan
LSC400
I've already said. My work here is done, and your sorry defense arguments are
still futile, Now go home, little boy. Cry about it to your mother.
LSC400
>complete myth.
>
>Why do you think it's fact?
I don't think we need white people telling us we're the model minority. We can
figure it out by ourselves just fine. I honestly think we're the model RACE in
this country, period. The majority of Asians are hard working, intelligent, and
high achieviers. Most don't flaunt their racism through violence, don't steal,
rape, kill, child molest, have kids at 15, divorce like crazy, or any other crap
that the other 3 main races are notoriously known for. Really, I can find
little fault with Asian Americans. Not too sure about ASIAN Asians though...
But anyway, let's take this topic out in the open. I want to know what other
Asians think about themselves.
LSC400
>still have them outnumbered. You were saying?
When I was in high school, 66% was a D. But then, those were standards set by a
white school district. Since a white man's D is known to be a black man's A, I
can see where you're coming from. So I'll humor you once more --
congratulations!
woo...@hotmail.com
K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Htin Aung Moe wrote:
>
> > LSC400 wrote:
> > >
> > > >1. They are dishonest.
>
> I don't lie it's too much hard work. Every lie needs a series of
> back up lies and counter lies. Why bother the truth is a lot simpler.
**** How do we know you're telling us the truth, K-Bar? ;)
>
> > > >2. They smell.
>
> I have a sense of smell.
**** Ever smell a buncha Europeans (whites) packed into a hot disco at 2 am?
<gag--run for fresh air>
>
> > > >3. They hate Asians.
>
> No. I hate the entire human race. I do however like individuals
> from the various groups.
>
*** Black people don't hate Asians to any degree out of the ordinary--the
ones my wife works with and our neighbors have all been super nice. She's
never been called a "chink" by a black person.
> > > >4. They are rude.
>
> You mean they do things like go on usenet and post sweeping
> generalizations about ethnic groups they know nothing about? Stuff like
> that?
**** Only c-mod. The rest are pretty cool (including you)! ;)
>
> > > >5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
>
> Never have to this point.
>
*** I walk past the ABC check cashing place downtown. Twice a month there's a
line in the morning to cash checks. You mean those aren't white people I also
see standing in line?
> > > >6. They have no educational goals.
>
> I have a B.A. in Communications and hope to go to film school.
*** Can I be in your movie?
>
> > > >7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
>
> Let's see: don't do drugs, thought ALL heterosexual MEN wanted
> women, and could live without alcohol.
>
**** The three of those don't mix well in excess. If you're drunk you might
bring home an ugly woman. The only time I made love stoned, I laughed too
hard and fell outta bed. Then I ate a whole bag of potato chips. I don't
remember if we had sex in between those two events.
> > > >8. They will do anything for the previous three things, kill, steal, rob,
> etc.
>
> You forgot work long hours on a low paying job to pay their way
> through school.
*** Is steal and rob the same thing?
>
> > > >9. They bitch and whine about a system that mistreats them when Asians
> > > >became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
>
> With the exception of a few fucked up California laws in the late
> 1800's and the Chinese exclusion act there were no "jim crow" type laws
> designed to keep Asians "in their place." Last time I checked if an Asian
> guy and a black guy (neither of whom possessed a criminal record) drove
> down the same street in the same model/year car which would be more likely
> to be pulled over and accused of being either a drug dealer or a car
> theif?
**** Bitching and moaning is an American birthright. Our forefathers had a
hissy fit and tossed tea into Boston harbor because they didn't want to pay
taxes on it. Go to Orange county and listen to all the rich, white
Republicans bitch about things. Or listen to Rush Limbaugh for five minutes
and hear how that bloated, big windbag "bitches and moans." Bitching and
moaning is race/income independent. Anyways, blacks might actually have a few
things to get a bit pissed about..... not that bitching alone helps improve
things.
>
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Kwy...@usa.net
Iamfor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Bad Boy wrote:
>
> > Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
>
>
> 1. They are dishonest.
> 2. They smell.
> 3. They hate Asians.
> 4. They are rude.
> 5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
> rob, etc.
> became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
>
> am
>
>
One thing, buddy boy. Never, ever,_ever_ judge the people of any race by
their worst representations. If you live in the ghetto, you will find many
examples of people who will prove your statemants. However, most black
people don't live in the ghetto. Most of us are just like any other race of
people in America, trying to succeed and thrive. I myself have met plenty of
people in ghetto areas who are just as willing to do their best as are not,
so you can't even judge them by any superior standards.
Personally, I've always liked Asians and have quite a few Asian friends. I
don't lie, shower twice a day, treat people with respect, and always comport
myself with modesty. I don't drink or smoke, but I do have an appreciative
eye for the ladies. Then again, I'm 21 so that is to be expected.{And no, I
don't have any children, before you decide to post one of those ignorant
"baby daddy" comments.} I'm not on welfare, and I'm trying to pull myself
through the system. I'm Jamerican (Jamaican mother, American father), with
Cuban/Cherokee/Irish/Chinese in my blood, but I could never pass for anything
but black. And I've never used my race as an excuse for base or crude
behavior.
If you met me, you might have a different opinion of black people. Then
again, died-wool racists are pretty hard to change. I hope that you will try
to alter your thinking and see black people as more than impoverished
gangbangers and cirminal statistics. If you didn't judge blacks from what
you'd seen on the news and on rap videos, you might not think of us on such
base terms. After all, this world is gettng smaller and smaller every day.
People have no choice but to learn how to get along with each other.
Otherwise, we'll just destroy ourselves.
KW! Not the exception to black American behavior, but the rule!
P.S. I dislike O.J. Simpson also, and most of my friends could care less
about the wife murdering bastard.
uceb
>Bethune, Shirley Chisolm, Adam Clayton Powell, Oscar Mischeaux, Barbara
>Jordan and a list of men and women whose accomplishments you aren't fit
>to consider. By the way you'll note I didn't mention any professional
>athletes or entertainers and none of the affore mentioned had a criminal
>record punk. K-Bar
eclectic collection of individuals. dubois was a separatist while
douglass was an integrationist. not deserving of the others' company: barbara
jordan, a strident xenphobe, whom iirc, made questionable at best and racist
at worst remarks against both mexiacans and asians.
Richard Lee
: There's another reason why Asians are
: the model minority -- we don't go out of our way to bother anyone.
I've always been of the notion that the model minority stereotype is a
complete myth.
Why do you think it's fact?
Richard Lee
--
"You can't spell P-E-N-I-S without ESPN!"
--seen on a sign held by a student in the stands at the Utah vs.
Colorado St. basketball game in 1997, televised by ESPN.
uceb
>hate Asians?" you'd have to be an imbecile not to think that some blacks
>would answer.
the question was posed in response to another post asked by someone claiming
to be black requesting the readers to give one reason why they as asians hated
blacks.
pizz...@my-dejanews.com
What Kind of converstaion is this???
I am black and I love my cultuera dn I love Asian culture. WHy do we always
talk about negative things... I never saw or heard of a black person hating a
asian or vice versa because I keep myself in a good environment. If you are
Asian I think it is good to take more interest in your own culture and the
cultures of others... and maybe we can all do good positive poles...
Peace, from Jerry
In article <6r4ju9$pk_...@ouppp.uoknor.edu>,
u...@fcc.gov (spam_this) wrote:
> In article <6r396l$sag$1...@news-2.news.gte.net>, "Bad Boy" <kel...@gte.net>
wrote:
> >Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
> >
> >
> rephrase your question in a less leading manner and you might get more
> thoughtful answers. how would you answer the question if the role was
> reversed, i.e., "just give one reason why you as a black dislike asians?"
K-Bar
Uh...imbecile, for claritys sake you might want to include the post
you're responding to. Whats the matter little girl are you pissed that
your sister's dating a black guy or something? If so then get some
psycho-therapy and get the fuck outta my face. And guess what B-yatch
"K-Bar" has been here before "LCS400" so your telling me to go home is
beyond funny. Have you considered stand up comedy? K-Bar
> >
K-Bar
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
And Congress can pass a law by a 2/3rds majority. What was your point
again? K-Bar
>
>
K-Bar
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, uceb wrote:
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98081...@Bayou.UH.EDU>, K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
> snip
> >Bethune, Shirley Chisolm, Adam Clayton Powell, Oscar Mischeaux, Barbara
> >Jordan and a list of men and women whose accomplishments you aren't fit
> >to consider. By the way you'll note I didn't mention any professional
> >athletes or entertainers and none of the affore mentioned had a criminal
> >record punk. K-Bar
>
> eclectic collection of individuals. dubois was a separatist while
> douglass was an integrationist. not deserving of the others' company: barbara
> jordan, a strident xenphobe, whom iirc, made questionable at best and racist
> at worst remarks against both mexiacans and asians.
>
> Jordan was a xenophobe. Could you support that? K-Bar
K-Bar
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, uceb wrote:
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98081...@Bayou.UH.EDU>, K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
> >Incidentally fuck face if you ask a loaded question like "Why do blacks
> >hate Asians?" you'd have to be an imbecile not to think that some blacks
> >would answer.
>
> the question was posed in response to another post asked by someone claiming
> to be black requesting the readers to give one reason why they as asians hated
> blacks.
>
>
Yet the moron acted suprised when a black person answered? K-Bar
LSC400
>you're responding to. Whats the matter little girl are you pissed that
>your sister's dating a black guy or something? If so then get some
>psycho-therapy and get the fuck outta my face. And guess what B-yatch
>"K-Bar" has been here before "LCS400" so your telling me to go home is
>beyond funny. Have you considered stand up comedy? K-Bar
That was an extremely lame comeback... Now you're just plain boring.
K-Bar
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98081...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
> K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Htin Aung Moe wrote:
> >
> > > LSC400 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >1. They are dishonest.
> >
> > I don't lie it's too much hard work. Every lie needs a series of
> > back up lies and counter lies. Why bother the truth is a lot simpler.
>
> **** How do we know you're telling us the truth, K-Bar? ;)
> >
You're saying I'm LYING about being too LAZY to LIE? Think about that
one for a sec.
> > > > >2. They smell.
> >
> > I have a sense of smell.
>
> **** Ever smell a buncha Europeans (whites) packed into a hot disco at 2 am?
> <gag--run for fresh air>
Haven't.
> >
> > > > >3. They hate Asians.
> >
> > No. I hate the entire human race. I do however like individuals
> > from the various groups.
> >
>
> *** Black people don't hate Asians to any degree out of the ordinary--the
> ones my wife works with and our neighbors have all been super nice. She's
> never been called a "chink" by a black person.
>
Hey according to this beat-off I'm a bigot and hate all Asians.
> > > > >4. They are rude.
> >
> > You mean they do things like go on usenet and post sweeping
> > generalizations about ethnic groups they know nothing about? Stuff like
> > that?
>
> **** Only c-mod. The rest are pretty cool (including you)! ;)
> >
You're too kind, and BTW C-mod has mellowed a bit. He's actually a
pretty bright kid considering I don't agree wiuth his views.
> > > > >5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
> >
> > Never have to this point.
> >
> *** I walk past the ABC check cashing place downtown. Twice a month there's a
> line in the morning to cash checks. You mean those aren't white people I also
> see standing in line?
>
Get some glasses.
> > > > >6. They have no educational goals.
> >
> > I have a B.A. in Communications and hope to go to film school.
>
> *** Can I be in your movie?
If you can help me find someone to pay for the damned thing..sure.
> >
> > > > >7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
> >
> > Let's see: don't do drugs, thought ALL heterosexual MEN wanted
> > women, and could live without alcohol.
> >
>
> **** The three of those don't mix well in excess. If you're drunk you might
> bring home an ugly woman. The only time I made love stoned, I laughed too
> hard and fell outta bed. Then I ate a whole bag of potato chips. I don't
> remember if we had sex in between those two events.
>
You don't want to. I once woke up with a swamp puppy.
> > > > >8. They will do anything for the previous three things, kill, steal, rob,
> > etc.
> >
> > You forgot work long hours on a low paying job to pay their way
> > through school.
>
> *** Is steal and rob the same thing?
> >
I always thought so.
> > > > >9. They bitch and whine about a system that mistreats them when Asians
> > > > >became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
> >
> > With the exception of a few fucked up California laws in the late
> > 1800's and the Chinese exclusion act there were no "jim crow" type laws
> > designed to keep Asians "in their place." Last time I checked if an Asian
> > guy and a black guy (neither of whom possessed a criminal record) drove
> > down the same street in the same model/year car which would be more likely
> > to be pulled over and accused of being either a drug dealer or a car
> > theif?
>
> **** Bitching and moaning is an American birthright. Our forefathers had a
> hissy fit and tossed tea into Boston harbor because they didn't want to pay
> taxes on it. Go to Orange county and listen to all the rich, white
> Republicans bitch about things. Or listen to Rush Limbaugh for five minutes
> and hear how that bloated, big windbag "bitches and moans." Bitching and
> moaning is race/income independent. Anyways, blacks might actually have a few
> things to get a bit pissed about..... not that bitching alone helps improve
> things.
>
> >
> (snipped the rest)
>
He needs help Woody. K-Bar
K-Bar
That wasn't supposed to be funny little girl. K-Bar
>
>
>
>
Timothy N Riordan
> K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
> > > > >7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
> >
> > Let's see: don't do drugs, thought ALL heterosexual MEN wanted
> > women, and could live without alcohol.
> >
>
> **** The three of those don't mix well in excess. If you're drunk you might
> bring home an ugly woman. The only time I made love stoned, I laughed too
> hard and fell outta bed. Then I ate a whole bag of potato chips. I don't
> remember if we had sex in between those two events.
Hehehe I had a friend back in HS. We had a saying for him:
"he never went to bed with an ugly woman... woke up with a few though" ;)
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Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering/Computer Science
S.U.N.Y. @ Buffalo
Homepage Under Construction @:
http://www.eng.buffalo.edu/~triordan
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Jim Tsou
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Jim Tsou wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I think this is very true. Most immigrants that come to this country
> > come to make a better life for themselves especially if they are from a
> > much poorer homeland. I doubt people like that would squander the
> > opportunity. On the other hand, many Black Americans start off with
> > 2 strikes against them. In a system that encourages mediocrity (where
> > getting a C is considered good work), and when parents (if there are
> > that many) care more about drugs than the well being of their kids. And
> > with only themselves to fend for, I can see why there is such a big
> > difference between Africans and Black Americans.
> >
> >
> Sweeping generalization there Jim. Neither of my parents does/did drugs
> and I grew up with BOTH of them. K-Bar
It was not meant to say ALL, even if they are a minority, that
minority is much large than every other ethnic group, and it does
have a major impact. You must admit this is a rather huge
problem in the black community. I think it'd a be disservice to
blacks in particular to ignore the drug and illegitimacy
problems plaguing the black community.
woo...@hotmail.com
K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
>
> > heheh it doesn't take much to piss you off does it? Nope, just the truth,
which
> > I've already said. My work here is done, and your sorry defense arguments
are
> > still futile, Now go home, little boy. Cry about it to your mother.
> >
> >
> you're responding to. Whats the matter little girl are you pissed that
> your sister's dating a black guy or something? If so then get some
> psycho-therapy and get the fuck outta my face. And guess what B-yatch
> "K-Bar" has been here before "LCS400" so your telling me to go home is
> beyond funny. Have you considered stand up comedy? K-Bar
>
> > >
>
>
***** "LCS400" could open for Rushclown in Comedy Hell? ;)
LSC400
>> >you're responding to. Whats the matter little girl are you pissed that
>> >your sister's dating a black guy or something? If so then get some
>> >psycho-therapy and get the fuck outta my face. And guess what B-yatch
>> >"K-Bar" has been here before "LCS400" so your telling me to go home is
>> >beyond funny. Have you considered stand up comedy? K-Bar
>>
>>
> That wasn't supposed to be funny little girl. K-Bar
Then what was it supposed to be? Effective? Because I guarantee it wasn't.
Why don't you save your childish third grade insults like for one of the teen or
pre-teen newsgroups where you belong? Seriously, kid, what grade are you in? I
hope (and doubt) you realize that your arguments are a joke, and that I only
continue this thread because I always find it amusing to watch overheated
adolescents who are in over their heads throw a hissy fit. Or you could look at
it as another black kid trying to start a fight with everyone in public... That
happens just as frequently. It's just more interesting this time around because
you're one of the educated ones yet you behave the same. Not that I'm saying
"educated" means you're not a dumbass, just that you know how to use a computer
and effectively translate from Ebonics to English. Not that this is exactly a
serious race discussion anymore, heh...
LSC400
That's on a pass/fail scale, Einstein. As in, barely adequate. Didn't stop to
think about that, did ya homeboy? You can look at the grading scale the same
way -- a "D" is also borderline. Once again, way to go.
Kaiju
[mind boggling at the profound stupidity of this post. knowing this
poster doesn't even realize how stupid it is...]
Hmmmm... And this is what you consider to be an "intelligent" comeback?
Tsk.
This remark, along with the others you've made, makes it very easy to
dismiss you out of hand.
Kaiju <hating to even become involved in this asinine thread, but
hey...it's here...>
ha...@my-dejanews.com
"Bad Boy" <kel...@gte.net> wrote:
> Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
>
>
I am white american. All I can say is that Asians that dislike blacks are
very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact
I detest them.
--
That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
K-Bar
I knew it! Your sister IS fuckin' a black guy and you have sort of an
Oedipus thing going on. Get psycho-therapy little girl, it may do you some
good. Incidentally I don't use "ebonics" they're a product of the Oakland
school system and I live in Texas. And this ceased to be a serious
discussion as soon as you showed up and started spouting racist bullshit.
I've been in this group a lot longer than you so you can fuck yourself if
you think your sophmoric attemps at humor are going to make me leave
bitch. Have a nice day honey. K-Bar
> >
K-Bar
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
> >> > I'm proud that I'm part of the 66.33% who aren't. The way I see it we
> >> >still have them outnumbered. You were saying?
> >>
> >> When I was in high school, 66% was a D. But then, those were standards set
> by a
> >> white school district. Since a white man's D is known to be a black man's A,
> I
> >> can see where you're coming from. So I'll humor you once more --
> >> congratulations!
>
> > And Congress can pass a law by a 2/3rds majority. What was your point
> >again? K-Bar
>
> That's on a pass/fail scale, Einstein. As in, barely adequate. Didn't stop to
> think about that, did ya homeboy? You can look at the grading scale the same
> way -- a "D" is also borderline. Once again, way to go.
>
>
Yes miss Lewinsky I knew this. I was talking about congress and how
laws are passed. If you ever become elligible to vote. And when I was in
Highschool a 66 was an F but 66% of the vote was enought to win an
election punk. Now be a good girl and fuck off will you. K-Bar
> >
K-Bar
For what it's worth Jim the number of whites born out of wed-lock is
growing. Yes you are right both are problems that shouldn't be ignored,
however presented in the context of this discussion it makes it appear
like a slight on black people. This isn't to imply that you're a bigot,
but if someone were to say something negative about Asians and then I came
foward with a stat about Asian youth gangs or something many would think
me a bigot. Don't you think. And you're right the black community isn't
without it's share of problems, but last time I checked the Asian
community had it's share as well. K-Bar
BTW How've you been Mr Tsou?
Man's Destiny
>
>
>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Htin Aung Moe wrote:
<snipped>
Now kids, we'll show you how hate spreads like a virus.
It only takes a few to begin with...
Man's Destiny
>
>> >No it is not true. At least you guys should keep a limit "They = Afro
>> >American" or something like that. My African friend (real African never
>> >been to America) are honest and hard working. He know, being black he
>> >got alot potential to face with racist acts, so he dont take chances, he
>> >is fair, honest, unbias, do what he support to do, no nonsent. Very
>> >good, very straight, he is my ideal model. You guys are talking about
>> >American breed (I mean American situation and environment), I have no
>> >comment on Afro American. One I believe is "Black" from America is
>> >different from "Black" from Africa, social environment is very
>> >different.
>>
>> Yes yes, there are always exceptions. But I think the number of blacks who
> fit
>> that description is more or less equal to the number of Asians who are under
> 6
>> feet tall.
>>
>> So tell me kid. What color is the sky in that world of yours? If
>animosity exist between blacks and Asians I think a good part of it stems
>from narrow minded assholes like yourself who believe every sound-byte
>they see on the evening news rather than going out to meet actual people.
>Grow the fuck up kid. K-Bar
K-Bar
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Man's Destiny wrote:
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98081...@Bayou.UH.EDU>, K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Htin Aung Moe wrote:
> <snipped>
>
> Now kids, we'll show you how hate spreads like a virus.
> It only takes a few to begin with...
>
>
I'm inclined to agree with you, but he was the one spreading hatred. I
don't have a problem with any group of people. If you're going to hate,
hate individuals based on their merit or lack thereof. K-Bar
K-Bar
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 ha...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <6r396l$sag$1...@news-2.news.gte.net>,
> "Bad Boy" <kel...@gte.net> wrote:
> > Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
> >
> >
>
> I am white american. All I can say is that Asians that dislike blacks are
> very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact
> I detest them.
>
> --
> That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
>
"American" is spelled with a capitol "A" . You know I'm beginning to
lament having volunteered a bit of my youth to fight and die for a country
where every one claims to belong and will shout about his freedoms without
realizing that he didn't have to earn any of them and can readily
condescend to those who did. Many brave black, Hispanic, Native American,
and Asian men and women gave thier lives so that priviledged punks can
enjoy the freedom they died to secure. I'm proud to have a large number of
Asian friends and while I'm not in the habit of saying I speak for anyone
I think in this case I speak for them when I say. Life's a bitch
motherfucker. Get used to us, because we're not going anywhere. K-Bar
"To those who fight for it life has a flavor the protected will never
know."
:An Unknown Marine at Khe Sanh
LSC400
>Oedipus thing going on. Get psycho-therapy little girl, it may do you some
>good. Incidentally I don't use "ebonics" they're a product of the Oakland
>school system and I live in Texas. And this ceased to be a serious
>discussion as soon as you showed up and started spouting racist bullshit.
>I've been in this group a lot longer than you so you can fuck yourself if
>you think your sophmoric attemps at humor are going to make me leave
>bitch. Have a nice day honey. K-Bar
Thanks for proving my point, grade 3 tactics master. I doubt my sister would be
that stupid. And you didn't answer my question as to what grade you're in.
LSC400
>very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact
>I detest them.
>
And not an uncommon one.
gste...@sprynet.com
>
> > In article <6r396l$sag$1...@news-2.news.gte.net>,
> > "Bad Boy" <kel...@gte.net> wrote:
> > > Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
> > >
>
> lament having volunteered a bit of my youth to fight and die for a country
>
>
>
So if ya died what are ya doing here?
--
That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
K-Bar
Your sister's got "Jungle Fever" and you know it! It's true little
girl, and YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Considering how much you bitch about
blacks you must be either:
a. sexually drawn to us. In which case I have to tell
you that K-Bar doesn't swing in that direction.
or
b. Jealous of us for some strange reason known only to
your shrink or the other girls you invite to your
slumber parties.
Get therapy kid. K-Bar
>
>
K-Bar
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
> >I am white american. All I can say is that Asians that dislike blacks are
> >very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact
> >I detest them.
> >
> >That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
>
> And not an uncommon one.
>
>
If you're an asshole. K-Bar
>
>
LSC400
So you're admitting your race consists of uncivilized savage animals?
LSC400
>> >very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact
>> >I detest them.
>> >
>> >That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
>>
>> And not an uncommon one.
>>
>>
> If you're an asshole. K-Bar
:)
Tho Truong
subpopulation of Asians who dislike Blacks. These particular Asians
should learn more about Black culture, Black history, and Black heroes,
before basing their judgement of an entire race on some misinterpreted
statistic and the 6 o' clock news. Heck, Blacks who make the 6 o' clock
because of some criminal activity probably don't know much about their
rich heritage either, and therefore, I'd venture to say, aren't very
representative of the Black race and its potential.
People should know that their behavior will often be interpreted towards
their race. Whoever started this thread did not represent his race very
well.
Tho
Tho Truong
> I think there is a colour discrimination even after birth, as a baby.
>
> My niece when born had two baby minders. One white and the other black.
>
> When white baby minder pick up my niece to look after her, she was quite,
> but when black baby minder pick up my niece she started crying very
> loudly. This was very embarassing.
>
Dunno. I think there are other reasonable explanations for this though.
In any case, in terms of relevance to our sanctity-o-life, I expect
adults to be more thoughtful than this (e.g. the baby's reaction).
> So as a result I think colour does play a part even at early stages of
> life, whether one likes or dislikes someone.
So does smell. And I'm not talking about B.O. I remember the scent of my
Mom as being very distinct when I was a kid.
> Comments?
There are lots of reasons why we associate certain looks, color related or
not, to certain feelings. But if we can think every once in awhile, we can
question whether these associations are fair. Baby's not that advanced
yet.
Tho
> Bun Mui
>
>
>
LSC400
>
>My niece when born had two baby minders. One white and the other black.
>
>When white baby minder pick up my niece to look after her, she was quite,
>but when black baby minder pick up my niece she started crying very
>loudly. This was very embarassing.
>
>life, whether one likes or dislikes someone.
Even babies are proven to prefer attractive faces. She probably finds blacks
ugly/scary. The color black does have a psychological effect...
LSC400
>elsewhere? I thought you were an ass before--and with the above post you just
>proved it so.
heh, ok, I've had my fun...
Party pooper :p
woo...@hotmail.com
"LSC400" <LSC...@YahooNOSPAM.com> wrote:
> >I am white american. All I can say is that Asians that dislike blacks are
> >very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact
> >I detest them.
> >
> >That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
>
> And not an uncommon one.
>
I believe most American whites would *not* agree with his statement: "There is
nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact I detest them."
You're spending way too much time making racist posts to know how most
normal people feel on racial matters. Read a few Gallup polls on whites
attitudes toward blacks. Yes, there ARE some racists, and everyday whites DO
have a level of bigotry--but, most whites DON'T "detest" black people.
I am a white male. I don't "detest" any person simply because of their race.
That kind of thinking is stupid beyond words.
woo...@hotmail.com
gste...@sprynet.com wrote:
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98081...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
> K-Bar <jha...@Bayou.UH.EDU> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 ha...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > > In article <6r396l$sag$1...@news-2.news.gte.net>,
> > > "Bad Boy" <kel...@gte.net> wrote:
> > > > Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
> > > >
> >
> > "American" is spelled with a capitol "A" . You know I'm beginning to
> > lament having volunteered a bit of my youth to fight and die for a country
> >
> >
> >
> At least one nigger learned a little about the English language.
> So if ya died what are ya doing here?
>
woo...@hotmail.com
"LSC400" <LSC...@YahooNOSPAM.com> wrote:
> > Your sister's got "Jungle Fever" and you know it! It's true little
>
> So you're admitting your race consists of uncivilized savage animals?
>
elsewhere? I thought you were an ass before--and with the above post you just
proved it so.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
Bun Mui
My niece when born had two baby minders. One white and the other black.
When white baby minder pick up my niece to look after her, she was quite,
but when black baby minder pick up my niece she started crying very
loudly. This was very embarassing.
So as a result I think colour does play a part even at early stages of
life, whether one likes or dislikes someone.
Comments?
Bun Mui
ha...@my-dejanews.com
woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <6rcjpq$rd1$2...@pollux.dnai.com>,
> "LSC400" <LSC...@YahooNOSPAM.com> wrote:
> > >I am white american. All I can say is that Asians that dislike blacks are
> > >very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of
fact
> > >I detest them.
> > >
> > >That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
> >
> > And not an uncommon one.
> >
> **** Sorry to burst your little bubble.
>
> I believe most American whites would *not* agree with his statement: "There is
> nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact I detest them."
>
> You're spending way too much time making racist posts to know how most
> normal people feel on racial matters. Read a few Gallup polls on whites
> attitudes toward blacks. Yes, there ARE some racists, and everyday whites DO
> have a level of bigotry--but, most whites DON'T "detest" black people.
>
> I am a white male. I don't "detest" any person simply because of their race.
> That kind of thinking is stupid beyond words.
>
> http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
>
I grew up in the Bronx. Tell me about your wonderful experiences with blacks.
--
That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
woo...@hotmail.com
ha...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <6rdakr$qlo$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > In article <6rcjpq$rd1$2...@pollux.dnai.com>,
> > "LSC400" <LSC...@YahooNOSPAM.com> wrote:
> > > >I am white american. All I can say is that Asians that dislike blacks are
> > > >very intelligent. There is nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of
> fact
> > > >I detest them.
> > > >
> > > >That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
> > >
> > > And not an uncommon one.
> > >
> > **** Sorry to burst your little bubble.
> >
> > I believe most American whites would *not* agree with his statement: "There
is
> > nothing to like about blacks. As a matter of fact I detest them."
> >
> > You're spending way too much time making racist posts to know how most
> > normal people feel on racial matters. Read a few Gallup polls on whites
> > attitudes toward blacks. Yes, there ARE some racists, and everyday whites DO
> > have a level of bigotry--but, most whites DON'T "detest" black people.
> >
> > I am a white male. I don't "detest" any person simply because of their race.
> > That kind of thinking is stupid beyond words.
> >
> >
>
> I grew up in the Bronx. Tell me about your wonderful experiences with blacks.
>
**** Fair enough. Start with the fact that I'm not some sterotyped lilly
livered living room liberal with a bunch of college degress and no real-life
experience. I live in an integrated neighborhood with blacks (including next
door neighbors). When my wife and I moved into this neighborhood, the *first*
person to come over and warmly greet us while we're still unpacking was a
black man. His wife also went out of the way to be sweet to my wife. I work
with numerous black people--including some really smart, talented, nice
people who are among friends. I judge people as individuals. Sure, some young
black males can be bad news.... I'm sure that was your experince in the
Bronx... and it IS true that in the black community there's a much higher
incidence of single moms, drug abuse, etc. I'm not a naive person. I'm not a
black wanna-be either. (I don't like rap... but my son is getting into it
already!) Growing up, I got in a fight with a black guy that jumped me -- I
beat the crap outta him (until finally being pulled off while wailing on
him... the stereotype that whites can't fight is crap too..... um, maybe if
I'd *lost* that fight I'd be more racist? That was just now written in
jest--but there MIGHT be some kernel of truth in that. We hate what we fear.
No? Black people don't intimidate me. I think a lot of whites -- and possibly
Asians -- actually are scared *shitless* of blacks and project that fear into
prejudice... deal with that. I think it's a partial truth too.) I've gotten
in more fights with WHITES actually. There are a lot of good black people in
the community where I live, people who are anti-crime, active in the church,
good neighbors, etc. I've seen very kind blacks, too, helping whites--and I
think people who are racist to all black people ought to feel downright
ASHAMED to know that there are many black people who don't hate THEM and who
would come to THEIR aid in a pinch. Oh yeah, my bi-racial son plays with two
black kids. What else? Oh yeah, way back in my single days, I dated a pretty
black girl for a few months. I used to ride the bus to work and saw this
drop-dead gorgeous, sexy black girl on the bus everyday--so I got to know her
by sitting next to on the bus everyday and striking up a conversation (she
also had a funny sense of humor to go with her good looks)and finally just
asked her out. It was no big deal. I do what I wish. I honestly don't see any
race as an issue in how I view a person. Like I said, I was brought up by my
parents to view people as individuals--and I try to walk the talk. I'm not
saying everyone is as extreme in this "non-racist" view of the world as
me--afterall, we are all individuals--but I AM saying that most whites
*DON'T* "detest" (your word) blacks either! Somewhere in between no doubt. I
think that's accurate to say. Fair enough? If you're trying to position
intense anti-black hatred as being something that's acceptable to most
whites, I'll continue to disagree..... a big part of the future of this
country (as it becomes more diverse) rests on people learning to get along.
It's a lot more important than most other issues being discussed.
Diane Oshiro
K-Bar
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
> > Your sister's got "Jungle Fever" and you know it! It's true little
>
> So you're admitting your race consists of uncivilized savage animals?
>
Allusion: e/loo/shen n. 1. reference to a written work.
No honey I was making an allusion to Spike Lee's film "Jungle Fever" as
a means of describing your sister's dating habits. If you have issues with
the term talk to Spike. K-Bar
>
>
>
LSC400
Diane Oshiro wrote in message <4898-35D...@newsd-123.bryant.webtv.net>...
LCS400! you are so right! Asians, some don't go out of there way to
make waves. Maybe that is why they get taken advantage of. But I am
not saying from the blacks but from anyone.
Yep. The problem is that Asians also don't do anything when other people do
something to them, so they get pushed around.
LSC400
>a means of describing your sister's dating habits. If you have issues with
>the term talk to Spike. K-Bar
heh, sure thing kid... Anyway this is starting to annoy people so I'll leave
the rest of this flame war to you.
LSC400
blacks qualify for UC admission as opposed to 1 in 3 Asians.
ha...@my-dejanews.com
woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> **** Fair enough. Start with the fact that I'm not some sterotyped lilly
> livered living room liberal with a bunch of college degress and no real-life
> experience. I live in an integrated neighborhood with blacks (including next
> door neighbors). When my wife and I moved into this neighborhood, the *first*
> person to come over and warmly greet us while we're still unpacking was a
> black man. His wife also went out of the way to be sweet to my wife.
> I work with numerous black people--including some really smart, talented, nice
> people who are among friends.
Where I work there may be 1% blacks, and they are on the shipping dock or
maintainence crew. I'm a software engineer. I know of 1 black engineer here
out of 150.
> I judge people as individuals.
So do I. I've had black freinds also. But most of em(blacks) are not to be
trusted.
> Sure, some young
MOST^
> black males can be bad news.... I'm sure that was your experince in the
> Bronx... and it IS true that in the black community there's a much higher
> incidence of single moms, drug abuse, etc. I'm not a naive person. I'm not a
> black wanna-be either.
> (I don't like rap... but my son is getting into it already!)
Be a good tough-love father and burn his RAP CDs before its too late.
> Growing up, I got in a fight with a black guy that jumped me -- I
> beat the crap outta him
Wow - ONE black jumped you? Lucky you. Usually they attack in packs and leave
you no chance. Like my 65 year old dad getting stabbed for a few bucks by 3
young blacks. Why did 3 of em have to stab an old man? I won't even get into
details of my "experiences".
> (until finally being pulled off while wailing on
Sure Sure
> him... the stereotype that whites can't fight is crap too..... um, maybe if
> I'd *lost* that fight I'd be more racist? That was just now written in
> jest--but there MIGHT be some kernel of truth in that. We hate what we fear.
> No? Black people don't intimidate me.
HA HA HA That's funny. Where do/did you live again? you never said.
> I think a lot of whites -- and possibly
> Asians -- actually are scared *shitless* of blacks and project that fear into
> prejudice... deal with that. I think it's a partial truth too.)
UH - I'm usually prejudiced against things/persons that hurt me, my family and
my country, be it physically, emotionally or financially.
> I've gotten
> in more fights with WHITES actually. There are a lot of good black people in
> the community where I live, people who are anti-crime, active in the church,
> good neighbors, etc. I've seen very kind blacks,
Again, where is it that you live? In a community of black doctors and lawyers?
> too, helping whites--and I
> think people who are racist to all black people ought to feel downright
> ASHAMED to know that there are many black people who don't hate THEM and who
> would come to THEIR aid in a pinch. Oh yeah, my bi-racial son plays with two
> black kids. What else? Oh yeah, way back in my single days, I dated a pretty
> black girl for a few months. I used to ride the bus to work and saw this
> drop-dead gorgeous, sexy black girl on the bus everyday
Nothing wrong with that. But ya know that attractive females of any race can
influence a man. I've lusted for black women also.
> --so I got to know her
> by sitting next to on the bus everyday and striking up a conversation (she
> also had a funny sense of humor to go with her good looks)and finally just
> asked her out. It was no big deal. I do what I wish. I honestly don't see any
> race as an issue in how I view a person. Like I said, I was brought up by my
> parents to view people as individuals--and I try to walk the talk. I'm not
> saying everyone is as extreme in this "non-racist" view of the world as
> me--afterall, we are all individuals--but I AM saying that most whites
> *DON'T* "detest" (your word) blacks either! Somewhere in between no doubt. I
> think that's accurate to say. Fair enough? If you're trying to position
> intense anti-black hatred as being something that's acceptable to most
> whites, I'll continue to disagree..... a big part of the future of this
> country (as it becomes more diverse) rests on people learning to get along.
> It's a lot more important than most other issues being discussed.
Take a stroll in the Bronx one day and then get back to me OK.
Ever read the newspapers?
>
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That was, without a doubt, my opinion.
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Jim Tsou
> On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Jim Tsou wrote:
>
> > It was not meant to say ALL, even if they are a minority, that
> > minority is much large than every other ethnic group, and it does
> > have a major impact. You must admit this is a rather huge
> > problem in the black community. I think it'd a be disservice to
> > blacks in particular to ignore the drug and illegitimacy
> > problems plaguing the black community.
> >
> >
> For what it's worth Jim the number of whites born out of wed-lock is
> growing. Yes you are right both are problems that shouldn't be ignored,
> however presented in the context of this discussion it makes it appear
> like a slight on black people. This isn't to imply that you're a bigot,
> but if someone were to say something negative about Asians and then I came
> foward with a stat about Asian youth gangs or something many would think
> me a bigot. Don't you think.
Well if someone posted reasons why this is so, I would take it as
something constructive rather than destructive.
> And you're right the black community isn't
> without it's share of problems, but last time I checked the Asian
> community had it's share as well. K-Bar
I have posted my share of criticism of the Asian community as well.
As long as what is posted is true, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I'd rather have the truth come out into the open however painful
they may be, than to try to sweep them under the rug and pretend
they don't exist. Afterall, you can't tackle a problem if you
can't even acknowledge it.
> BTW How've you been Mr Tsou?
Not too bad, although I wish you wouldn't call me mister.. it kinda
makes me feel old, like in those Mitsubishi commercials.
K-Bar
FLAME-WAR!? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! You are a
mere child with a pea-shooter taking aim on a nuclear sub-marine boy.
Flame war? You are funny. K-Bar
>
>
K-Bar
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, LSC400 wrote:
> Oh ya, one other interesting statistic figure I found amusing was that 1 in 33
> blacks qualify for UC admission as opposed to 1 in 3 Asians.
>
> Weren't you happy when they lifted the "Asian ceilings" that they
claimed never existed? How many of those Asians are products of our
failing inner-city schools? Anyway I thought you said you were on your way
home to play with your dolls. >
>
K-Bar
I agree but unfortunatly the problems you mentioned have to be solved
at the roots. Individuals have to learn responsibily before they can teach
it to their kids.
> > BTW How've you been Mr Tsou?
>
> Not too bad, although I wish you wouldn't call me mister.. it kinda
> makes me feel old, like in those Mitsubishi commercials.
>
>
I've been lucky to this point totally hot babes have yet to call me
"Sir." :-) K-Bar
Walter T. Kawamoto
great things we have done together. And remember, some of our greatest Asian
Americans out there are Black :)
Htin Aung Moe
It was in "Free China Review" Taiwanese news magazine, I think. I saw an
article by an American(White) English tutor, about the reaction of
Taiwanese baby and children when they meet a white person (at least
first afew times). Babys stare at him with worry and watchful eyes. When
he meet with young children (3 to 5 yrs old, I think) in a lift the
child hide behind their parents, when first day at school his school
children play a game, that is the late commer child was snap push toward
the white man (their new tutor)
so on....and then happy ending. So baby scare of strange new commer that
all, and that is the only reason I can think of, for your niece crying.
woo...@hotmail.com
take insults and other s*** without responding. Racists are usually
cowards--they'll pick on a minority group/individual if they think they can
get away with it. Read the following article, about how Asian-Americans are
responding to anti-Asian racist slurs tossed at them...... click here:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/local/center/email121497.htm
LSC400
What are you talking about?
By the way, the fact that you're trying to insult me by calling me a girl makes
you a sexist.
Jerry Pearo
rave till i moved to Washington DC, but with all the negative coverage
of the young black male, alarms go off in my head, and the 'threat
radar' goes of when one is near.
What a crying shame
K-Bar
Where I'm from REAL men don't assume because they've come across a few
bad apples that an entire race of people are primative ,criminal savages.
And no I wasn't trying to call you a girl I thought I was calling you a
bitch. K-Bar
> >
Don Kirkman
<Pine.OSF.3.95q.98081...@Bayou.UH.EDU>:
>> K-Bar wrote:
You guys don't want to go there. Believe me, it's a bummer (but for
some reason my wife kinda likes to see it happen). ;-)
--
Don
new...@abac.com
Erik Jordan
towards the Afro community in the US. This in my opinion is due to extreme ignorance
on the part of both groups towards each other. For example, both groups hold the
others lingustics skills in contempt. Both are envious of the others talents and the
economic and/or political power of the other, (neither in my opinion recognize their
own true strength). More importantly, each consider themselves to be extremely
polite and patient peoples, this is true but generally unrecognized by the other
group... frustration.
Many Asian-Americans have prospered (to the extent of middle and upper middle class
life styles). Many of them have earned their way as merchants in the Afro-American
community. However, most Asians don't realize they do so at the leisure of the
community. Nor do they understand (or wish to acklowledge) that opprotunities
afforded them may have not been available to Afro-Americans. Further, many Asians do
not recognize that Afro-Americans given a choice would rather do business with an
Asian than a Caucasian.
It is not possible for any non-black or non-white to understand the conflict between
the two groups. It is deeper than an outsider can comprehend.
Asians often falls prey to the propoganda and stereo types broadcast by the racist
elements of white America.
By and large Afro-Americans are an extremely complex peolple with primarilty main
stream American values and lifestyle. Whenever, this subject is discussed there
seems to be an assumption that most black are poor, illerate, and addicted ... bull!
Only fools believe such things.Frankly most Asians, (US born or not), are too
ignorant of the Anglo mentality and tactics to realize they are often used in a
struggle that they know little of.
The rights and opprotunities which most Americans take for granted were earned with
primarily black, as well as, native American and ethnic white (i.e. Irish, Italian,
...) blood. We have received little or no thanks from peoples who might live in
slavery of one sort or another today if not for our efforts on thousands of foreign
and domestic battle feilds. Not once have I heard or the words "thank you" for this
from ANY Asian for this. Nor have I heard one stand upfor the rights of
Afro-Americans, native Americans, (their own ancestors), nor anyone else for that
matter). It seems Asians often throw in with racists in white American.
Why do Asians dislike Blacks? I imagine thousands of years of hard core poverty,
civil war, and drug abuse can lead a people to such.
"Envy not the oppressor and choose none of his ways"
LSC400
Nope, you said "girl", and last time I checked, bitches were female. You're
sexist, case closed. You'd probably be racist too but being black, you're in
the last position to criticize other races. And who said anything about "a few
bad apples"? When I come across a successful black man, I think of him as akin
to a flower that grew out of a pot of dirt, a jewel in a dunghill, etc.
Anyway, let's get back on track, Jack. By the way, 1 in 33 is 3% and that sure
wont win you any contest.
K-Bar
I'm calling you a girl, but primarily I'm calling you a bitch. Because
there are in fact male bitches out there. Case in point...YOU. Guys like
yourself, Kenneth Starr , Dick Armey and Orin Hatch prove the existence of
male bitches daily. K-Bar
> >
>
Jim Tsou
>
> Asians often falls prey to the propoganda and stereo types broadcast by the racist
> elements of white America.
Catchy phrase, I have a feeling it will resurface...
> By and large Afro-Americans are an extremely complex peolple with primarilty main
> stream American values and lifestyle. Whenever, this subject is discussed there
> seems to be an assumption that most black are poor, illerate, and addicted ... bull!
> Only fools believe such things.Frankly most Asians, (US born or not), are too
> ignorant of the Anglo mentality and tactics to realize they are often used in a
> struggle that they know little of.
And how do you know that? Only fools would pretend to know what
another group of people, they themselves know nothing about, would
think.
> The rights and opprotunities which most Americans take for granted were earned with
> primarily black, as well as, native American and ethnic white (i.e. Irish, Italian,
> ...) blood. We have received little or no thanks from peoples who might live in
> slavery of one sort or another today if not for our efforts on thousands of foreign
> and domestic battle feilds. Not once have I heard or the words "thank you" for this
> from ANY Asian for this.
Who is this "we"? And why is it that I have never heard any of YOU
thanking me for designing the weapons of mass destruction so YOU can
sleep safe at night?
> Nor have I heard one stand upfor the rights of
> Afro-Americans, native Americans, (their own ancestors), nor anyone else for that
> matter). It seems Asians often throw in with racists in white American.
Making commentary on something you obviously know very little about?
Sounds like you have fallen prey to the propoganda and stereotypes
broadcast by the racist elements of white America.
> Why do Asians dislike Blacks? I imagine thousands of years of hard core poverty,
> civil war, and drug abuse can lead a people to such.
For thousands of years, China had been the most advanced civilzation
on the planet. Civil war and drug abuse had only become an issue in
the past 2 centuries with the introduction of western imperialism.
Yes, you do indeed have a vivid imagination, one that parallels
the propaganda and stereotypes broadcast by the racist elements of
White America.
Maybe the question you ought to ask is: "Why do <insert your
ethnicity> make factually inaccurate comments about Asians based
on stereotypes?"
Don Kirkman
<35DCCA1D...@swbell.net>:
>There does exist a number of Asian-Anericans and Asian imigrants which hold ill will
>towards the Afro community in the US. This in my opinion is due to extreme ignorance
>on the part of both groups towards each other. For example, both groups hold the
>others lingustics skills in contempt. Both are envious of the others talents and the
>economic and/or political power of the other, (neither in my opinion recognize their
>own true strength). More importantly, each consider themselves to be extremely
>polite and patient peoples, this is true but generally unrecognized by the other
>group... frustration.
This seems like a good start. Intergroup tensions are very often about
powerlessness and lack of (economic) opportunity, and forced or
voluntary separation of groups gives the opportunity to develop negative
stereotypes without any access to corrective facts and experience.
>Many Asian-Americans have prospered (to the extent of middle and upper middle class
>life styles). Many of them have earned their way as merchants in the Afro-American
>community. However, most Asians don't realize they do so at the leisure of the
>community. Nor do they understand (or wish to acklowledge) that opprotunities
>afforded them may have not been available to Afro-Americans. Further, many Asians do
>not recognize that Afro-Americans given a choice would rather do business with an
>Asian than a Caucasian.
And many have earned their way as merchants in Asian American or other
ethnic communities; this is not true only in African American areas. As
for Af-Am opportunity, I just saw a post from K-Bar pointing out that
that's not entirely true. It certainly isn't in my part of the US;
opportunities have historically been limited, but those limits are
loosening up (though they may take a long time to disappear completely;
societies and cultures usually change slowly).
>It is not possible for any non-black or non-white to understand the conflict between
>the two groups. It is deeper than an outsider can comprehend.
I guess I don't understand this; aren't non-black and non-whites
primarily Asian American? Or are you now talking about White and Black
as the two groups rather than Black and Asian?
>Asians often falls prey to the propoganda and stereo types broadcast by the racist
>elements of white America.
And to the propaganda and stereotypes broadcast by the racist elements
of Black and Asian America as well. Truth has no color, nor does
untruth.
>By and large Afro-Americans are an extremely complex peolple with primarilty main
>stream American values and lifestyle.
By and large Americans of *every* ethnicity are an extremely complex
people with primarily mainstream American values and lifestyle. The
belief that that was not true was one of the major factors that put
Japanese Americans in relocation camps during WW II.
>Whenever, this subject is discussed there
>seems to be an assumption that most black are poor, illerate, and addicted ... bull!
>Only fools believe such things.Frankly most Asians, (US born or not), are too
>ignorant of the Anglo mentality and tactics to realize they are often used in a
>struggle that they know little of.
Which Anglos? (And what about the German and the French and Italian and
Russian and . . . Americans?) Point out some organized groups doing
this (of course by naming groups you'd be giving the lie to your
apparent assumption that America is a vast monolithic white conspiracy).
>The rights and opprotunities which most Americans take for granted were earned with
>primarily black, as well as, native American and ethnic white (i.e. Irish, Italian,
>...) blood.
Now if you add in the Asians, you've got the American picture: we all
contributed.
> We have received little or no thanks from peoples who might live in
>slavery of one sort or another today if not for our efforts on thousands of foreign
>and domestic battle feilds. Not once have I heard or the words "thank you" for this
>from ANY Asian for this. Nor have I heard one stand upfor the rights of
>Afro-Americans, native Americans, (their own ancestors), nor anyone else for that
>matter). It seems Asians often throw in with racists in white American.
Have you thanked the JAs for being uprooted during WW II, and the effect
that program has had on subsequent Supreme Court decisions on racial
equality?
Hug an AA today.
>Why do Asians dislike Blacks? I imagine thousands of years of hard core poverty,
>civil war, and drug abuse can lead a people to such.
So it wasn't all whitey, eh? Or was he over there in Africa and Asia
thousands of years ago oppressing you all? And you mean there was drug
use in the good old days too?
--
Don
new...@abac.com
Parn
<Iamfor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Bad Boy wrote:
>> Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
Why throw one ball of hate when you can get more off? ^_^;
>1. They are dishonest.
>2. They smell.
>3. They hate Asians.
>4. They are rude.
>5. They like to freeload off the welfare system.
>6. They have no educational goals.
>7. They want three things, drugs, women, alcohol.
>8. They will do anything for the previous three things, kill, steal,
>rob, etc.
>9. They bitch and whine about a system that mistreats them when Asians
>became prosperous and wealthy on the same system.
>10. OJ Simpson.
Gee... no uninformed stereotypes here. 9_9
Parn
Robert Reed
Africans had powerful empires, including the Mali and the Songhai. During
the 1400's and 1500's, each of these African Empires were are rich as Spain,
England, France, and Sweden put together. In fact, We were trading with
India, China, American Indians, and the Australian Aborrigines centuries
before the white man came into picture. When they decided to invade Africa,
and enslave its people, these emires fell. To make matters worse, Europeans
tried to colonize Africa the way they did America and Australia, but were
unsuccessful because the number of people in Africa. When that failed, the
Europeans literally divided Africa into pieces of pie to be ruled by
Europeans. It's just not America who is in this conspiracy, it is most of
Europe too.
Jim Tsou wrote in message <35DDF1...@earthlink.net>...
>Erik Jordan wrote:
>>
>> Asians often falls prey to the propoganda and stereo types broadcast by
the racist
>> elements of white America.
>
>
primarilty main
there
>> seems to be an assumption that most black are poor, illerate, and
addicted ... bull!
>> Only fools believe such things.Frankly most Asians, (US born or not), are
too
>> ignorant of the Anglo mentality and tactics to realize they are often
used in a
>> struggle that they know little of.
>
>another group of people, they themselves know nothing about, would
>think.
>
earned with
>> primarily black, as well as, native American and ethnic white (i.e.
Irish, Italian,
live in
>> slavery of one sort or another today if not for our efforts on thousands
of foreign
>> and domestic battle feilds. Not once have I heard or the words "thank
you" for this
>> from ANY Asian for this.
>
>thanking me for designing the weapons of mass destruction so YOU can
>sleep safe at night?
>
>> Afro-Americans, native Americans, (their own ancestors), nor anyone else
for that
>> matter). It seems Asians often throw in with racists in white American.
>
>broadcast by the racist elements of white America.
>
>> Why do Asians dislike Blacks? I imagine thousands of years of hard core
poverty,
>> civil war, and drug abuse can lead a people to such.
>
>on the planet. Civil war and drug abuse had only become an issue in
>the past 2 centuries with the introduction of western imperialism.
>Yes, you do indeed have a vivid imagination, one that parallels
Dorrin
> Just give one reason why you as an Asian dislike Blacks.
>
>
Sorry, but I do not dislike Blacks solely because they are Black. I
dislike Blacks who are criminals, but, then again, I also dislike
criminals who are Asians, Whites, or Indians. Actually, if you pay
attention, you'll find that an educated Black will tend to treat a fellow
American of Asian descent much more on a even level than a White person
will, based on my experience.
walter lee
Robert Reed wrote:
> Same thing with African civilization. Before the era of colonialism, black
> Africans had powerful empires, including the Mali and the Songhai. During
> the 1400's and 1500's, each of these African Empires were are rich as Spain,
> England, France, and Sweden put together. In fact, We were trading with
> India, China, American Indians, and the Australian Aborrigines centuries
> before the white man came into picture. When they decided to invade Africa,
> and enslave its people, these emires fell. To make matters worse, Europeans
> tried to colonize Africa the way they did America and Australia, but were
> unsuccessful because the number of people in Africa. When that failed, the
I saw this african history mini series on PBS (ch 32, howard university,
washington DC)by an african. The show's viewpoint was that the europeans failed
to
create strong colonies in africa because when they could not find an
inexpensiv way control the african continent they quit - simplely put
the european leaders did not have enough cash and could not find a way
to finance their way to further expansion and development. For example, the
europeans explorers were looking for navigatable rivers for cheap transportation
of
goods but instead they found many rivers were not navigatable
(falls, rapids, or flood waters made it too difficult). this basically, halted
most of the inward expansion into africa by europeans. However, when
europeans found gold and diamonds in South Africa they were able to
sustain their european control because they found a cash cow to milk.