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JACKIE CHAN'S "MR. NICE GUY" WILL OPEN THIS FRIDAY........

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Eng...@earthlink.net

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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The Chan man is back! Mr. Nice Guy will open in theatres across the
country this friday. Check your local theater or paper for show date and
time.


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K-Bar

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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It was released in Asia years ago. The video store here in Houston
where I get my Japanese cartoons has had it for a while now. I'll just
watch it at home this weekend. K-Bar



Eng...@earthlink.net

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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I know, #3. Here in america, we always get foreign movies after everyone
had seen it.

Eng...@earthlink.net

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Eng...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> K-Bar wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 Eng...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > The Chan man is back! Mr. Nice Guy will open in theatres across the
> > > country this friday. Check your local theater or paper for show date and
> > > time.
> > >

ChannelA has a follow up story...

............................
ENTERTAINMENT : CHANtastic!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A Note From Harry, Your Entertainment Producer:
He's cute and funny in a way that kung-fu legend Bruce Lee never
was, and he's athletic and acrobatic in ways that Ah-nuld and Sly
never could hope to be. He's Jackie Chan, Asia's biggest box-office
star, and his next American release is Mr. Nice Guy. Check out Jackie
as our Celebrity of the Week for more on this amazing actor.
(Psst! During the month of March, all our Jackie Chan videos are on
sale!)
http://www.channelA.com/entertainment/celebrity/index.html?eu

Medusaslox

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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What I found interesting is that here in San Francisco Mr. Nice Guy is playing
at an AMC theatre!!!!! And with Sammo Hung directing. So hopefully
subtitles!!!!!!!!!!!! I love this sh*t!!!!


Alex Crouvier

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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K-Bar wrote:

> It was released in Asia years ago. The video store here in Houston
> where I get my Japanese cartoons has had it for a while now. I'll just
> watch it at home this weekend. K-Bar

Japanese 'cartoons'?
Is this guy for real or what?

Ian David Garlick

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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K-Bar wrote:

> It was released in Asia years ago. The video store here in Houston
> where I get my Japanese cartoons has had it for a while now. I'll just
> watch it at home this weekend. K-Bar

Well at least "year" ago, wasn't it released over the
Chinese New Year Break of 1997?

Ian D.G.

Phoenix

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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Eng...@earthlink.net wrote:
> ChannelA has a follow up story...
> ............................
> ENTERTAINMENT : CHANtastic!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> A Note From Harry, Your Entertainment Producer:
> He's cute and funny in a way that kung-fu legend Bruce Lee never
> was, and he's athletic and acrobatic in ways that Ah-nuld and Sly
> never could hope to be. He's Jackie Chan, Asia's biggest box-office
> star, and his next American release is Mr. Nice Guy. Check out Jackie
> as our Celebrity of the Week for more on this amazing actor.
> (Psst! During the month of March, all our Jackie Chan videos are on
> sale!)
> http://www.channelA.com/entertainment/celebrity/index.html?eu

Jackie is finishing up the HK part of his first major Hollywood
production, Rush Hour, it looks like it's going to be released late
98/early 99. Who is China Chow?

"Mr. Nice Guy opens in mid-March. Meanwhile, Jackie is shooting
Miramax’s Rush Hour. In Rush Hour, Chan plays a security guard who teams
up with a policeman, played by Chris Tucker, to save a Chinese
ambassador's daughter (China Chow) who has been kidnapped by
terrorists."

A couple sidenotes here. John Woo is working on bringing Michael
Wang(Russel Wang's older bro) to Hollywood, he's supposed to star in a
TV movie first(sorry I don't know the English title). A young Chinese
director from Taiwan, Tang Ji Lee(what's his English name?) who is
friends with Michelle Yeoh and Chow Yun Fat, was said to have finished a
Hollywood production and touring the media. Does anyone know what's the
name of the movie? Chinese title roughly translates into Mr. Wacko.


Walter Lee

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Alex Crouvier wrote:
>
> K-Bar wrote:
>
> > It was released in Asia years ago. The video store here in Houston
> > where I get my Japanese cartoons has had it for a while now. I'll just
> > watch it at home this weekend. K-Bar
>
> Japanese 'cartoons'?

alex, are you saying he should have said japanese anime?

> Is this guy for real or what?


fyi:
Hong Kong Cinema (e.g. Jackie Chan) videos are rented/sold along side
Japanese Anime (e.g. Evangelion, Dragonball Z) and Japanese Cinema Stuff in certain
stores like... Anime Crash! (providence,RI and Boston,ma) and P

K-Bar

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Thanks Walt. Planet Anime here in Houston is America'd first Anime
Store and prides themselves in that fact. Visti their website at
http://www.neosoft.com/~planet you'll be glad you did. :-) K-Bar


Alex Crouvier

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Walter Lee wrote:
>
> Alex Crouvier wrote:
> >
> > K-Bar wrote:
> >
> > > It was released in Asia years ago. The video store here in Houston
> > > where I get my Japanese cartoons has had it for a while now. I'll just
> > > watch it at home this weekend. K-Bar
> >
> > Japanese 'cartoons'?
>
> alex, are you saying he should have said japanese anime?
>
> > Is this guy for real or what?

To say cartoons after Japanese is like associating the wide range of
anime types to a more predictable notion of Disney-esque animation (you
know: dancing objects, cute animals, princesses who need to be saved
etc). Why can't this guy simply say anime --it is shorter and it
contains no ambiguity. Nobody's gonna confuse anime with a Chuck Jones
revival.

Walter Lee

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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I agree. sigh. :(

K-Bar

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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True, but while this place carries anime, it also carries some anime
from the 60's and 70's which you have to admit was pretty crude compared
to some (not all mind you) American toons. Present day American toons
however can't be mentioned in the same room much less the same breath with
today's anime. K-Bar


Jim Tsou

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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Walter Lee wrote:
> Alex Crouvier wrote:
>
> > To say cartoons after Japanese is like associating the wide range of
> > anime types to a more predictable notion of Disney-esque animation (you
> > know: dancing objects, cute animals, princesses who need to be saved
> > etc). Why can't this guy simply say anime --it is shorter and it
> > contains no ambiguity. Nobody's gonna confuse anime with a Chuck Jones
> > revival.
>
> I agree. sigh. :(

Speaking of animes, has any new movie length and quality animes
come out since Ghost in the Shell?

eirias

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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>Speaking of animes, has any new movie length and quality animes
>come out since Ghost in the Shell?
Well, Mononoke Hime, several Eva movies, and an Esca and Nadesico movie on
the way.
To be honest, I prefer anime on TV shows. It simply takes longer to
develope a complex and interesting character with animation. Partly because
we bring some interest in an actor to a film, but mostly because animation
isn't as expressive as the human face. I find I usually don't get attached
to characters until the fourth or fifth hour on average.

Susan Cohen

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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Alex Crouvier wrote:

> Walter Lee wrote:
> >
> > Alex Crouvier wrote:
> > >

> > > K-Bar wrote:
> > >
> > > > It was released in Asia years ago. The video store here in Houston
> > > > where I get my Japanese cartoons has had it for a while now. I'll just
> > > > watch it at home this weekend. K-Bar
> > >
> > > Japanese 'cartoons'?
> >
> > alex, are you saying he should have said japanese anime?
> >
> > > Is this guy for real or what?
>

> To say cartoons after Japanese is like associating the wide range of
> anime types to a more predictable notion of Disney-esque animation (you
> know: dancing objects, cute animals, princesses who need to be saved
> etc). Why can't this guy simply say anime --it is shorter and it
> contains no ambiguity. Nobody's gonna confuse anime with a Chuck Jones
> revival.

Funny, but I knew what he meant. So did Walter. I'm sure others did, too


Alex Crouvier

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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K-Bar wrote:

> True, but while this place carries anime, it also carries some anime
> from the 60's and 70's which you have to admit was pretty crude compared
> to some (not all mind you) American toons. Present day American toons
> however can't be mentioned in the same room much less the same breath with
> today's anime. K-Bar

You're right. Let's end this silly rhetoric. It's a movie newsgroup
anyhow.

K-Bar

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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What about animated movies? How would you compare Bakshi's Fritz the Cat
or the film Heavy Metal to today's full length Animated films i.e. full
length anime based movies? K-Bar


Phoenix

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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K-Bar wrote:
> What about animated movies? How would you compare Bakshi's Fritz the Cat
> or the film Heavy Metal to today's full length Animated films i.e. full
> length anime based movies? K-Bar

Is Fritz the Cat a borderline soft porn anime? If I have it confused
with something else, pardon me, you guys are religious about your
'toons.

Btw has anyone seen some old Chinese cartoons/anime? One about the
monkey god, one about a deer and a little girl...

Leo

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Mar 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/27/98
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The first one is called "Monkey God wrecks havoc in the heavens" (produced
in the 50s???) and the second one is known as "Nazha wreaks havoc in the
seas" (produced in the late seventies/early eighties). The "girl" is
actually Nazha, the Third Prince in the Canons of the Gods (collection of
ancient pre-Buddhist influenced Chinese fairy tales). Both are from Shanghai
studios. If you observe the up and coming Disney feature, Mulan, the
characters design actually look very similar. I heard that Disney has send a
team of artiste to Shanghai Studios to get some inspiration.

Phoenix wrote in

Walter Lee

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Mar 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/27/98
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Phoenix wrote:
>
> K-Bar wrote:
> > What about animated movies? How would you compare Bakshi's Fritz the Cat
> > or the film Heavy Metal to today's full length Animated films i.e. full
> > length anime based movies? K-Bar
>
> Is Fritz the Cat a borderline soft porn anime?

yes.

> If I have it confused with something else, pardon me,
> you guys are religious about your 'toons.

The almighty watches anime and smiles down on me!


>
> Btw has anyone seen some old Chinese cartoons/anime? One about the
> monkey god, one about a deer and a little girl...

Alakazam the Great! - Japanese animated file about an arrogant monkey who
is sent on a mission to learn about life.
1961 84m/c D:Lee Kresel; M: Les Baxter;
Voices: Frankie Avalon, Dodie Stevens, Jonathan Winters, Arnoly Stang,
Sterling Holloway. VHS $14.95 Congress Entertainmen Ltd(2-1/2 doggie bones)

most anime fans dont like the dubbed version listed above....

cao

TrueMonk1

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Mar 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/28/98
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>Subject: Re: Cartoon Vs Anime
>From: Walter Lee <dry...@erols.com>
>Date: Fri, Mar 27, 1998 17:16 EST
>Message-id: <351C25...@erols.com>

>
>The almighty watches anime and smiles down on me!

Well, god might be happy, but I don't know. Many of these anime flicks
are, well, too violent and sexually depraved. Come to think of it, a lot like
American movies. Oh, well.


>Alakazam the Great! - Japanese animated file about an
> arrogant monkey who is sent on a mission to learn about life.

Us "Oldies" like to call him "Sun Wu Kong" :)


Sincerely,
TM

Phoenix

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Mar 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/28/98
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Walter Lee wrote:
> Phoenix wrote:
> > K-Bar wrote:
> > > What about animated movies? How would you compare Bakshi's Fritz the Cat
> > > or the film Heavy Metal to today's full length Animated films i.e. full
> > > length anime based movies? K-Bar
> > Is Fritz the Cat a borderline soft porn anime?
> yes.

Walter watches porn? Oh my... :)

Is Bakshi Japanese? I only saw the first 5 minutes of it, what's it
about? What's Heavy Metal? This really isn't my area, the last
Japanese anime I saw was The Ninja Scroll which I thought was pretty
cool, except the ninja girl didn't have to die at the end.

> The almighty watches anime and smiles down on me!

Which does the Amlighty like the best? Batman, X-man, Spiderman, or
Tick?

> > Btw has anyone seen some old Chinese cartoons/anime? One about the
> > monkey god, one about a deer and a little girl...
>

> Alakazam the Great! - Japanese animated file about an arrogant monkey who
> is sent on a mission to learn about life.

> 1961 84m/c D:Lee Kresel; M: Les Baxter;
> Voices: Frankie Avalon, Dodie Stevens, Jonathan Winters, Arnoly Stang,
> Sterling Holloway. VHS $14.95 Congress Entertainmen Ltd(2-1/2 doggie bones)

I meant Chinese cartoons, Walter.



> most anime fans dont like the dubbed version listed above....

All the foreign toons I saw as a child were dubbed, most of them was
pretty good as I remember, though sometimes I could hear the muffled
original dialogue in the background.

> cao

Ummm, I hope this is not what I think it is. Pronounced in a certain
way it is not a very nice word.

Phoenix

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Mar 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/28/98
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Leo wrote:
> Phoenix wrote in

> > Btw has anyone seen some old Chinese cartoons/anime? One about the
> >monkey god, one about a deer and a little girl...
>
> The first one is called "Monkey God wrecks havoc in the heavens" (produced
> in the 50s???) and the second one is known as "Nazha wreaks havoc in the
> seas" (produced in the late seventies/early eighties). The "girl" is
> actually Nazha, the Third Prince in the Canons of the Gods (collection of
> ancient pre-Buddhist influenced Chinese fairy tales). Both are from Shanghai
> studios. If you observe the up and coming Disney feature, Mulan, the
> characters design actually look very similar. I heard that Disney has send a
> team of artiste to Shanghai Studios to get some inspiration.

Monkey God... = Da Nao Tian Gong
Nazha ... = Ne Zha Nao Hai

You are right, now I remember that there was a deer in Ne Zha Nao Hai,
but that's not the one I had in mind. I don't remember which studio
produced it, probably Shanghai as it produced most of the noteworthy
cartoon movies in China.

It has a little girl, searching for a deer(?) in the moutains, done in
traditional Chinese landscape painting style with no dialogue. It's a
delectable bite size piece full of surreal serenity and breath-taking
elegance.

I've seen only two drawings from Mulan so far, one where she's in a
dress looks authentic enough, the other where she's in army gear looks
too butch. I'm glad they did consult the Chinese, they were going to
have Mulan kiss her dad goodbye which would've been obscene in that time
period.


Walter Lee

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Mar 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/29/98
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TrueMonk1 wrote:
>
> >Subject: Re: Cartoon Vs Anime
> >From: Walter Lee <dry...@erols.com>
> >Date: Fri, Mar 27, 1998 17:16 EST
> >Message-id: <351C25...@erols.com>
> >
> >The almighty watches anime and smiles down on me!
>
> Well, god might be happy, but I don't know. Many of these anime flicks
> are, well, too violent and sexually depraved. Come to think of it, a lot like
> American movies. Oh, well.

not all commerically available anime is violent and sexually depraved.
for example, "Oh, My Goddess!", "You're Under Arrest!",
"Graves of the Firefly!", "Night of the Galactic Railroad",
"my neighbor totoro", and so forth.


>
> >Alakazam the Great! - Japanese animated file about an
> > arrogant monkey who is sent on a mission to learn about life.
>

K-Bar

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On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Phoenix wrote:

> Walter Lee wrote:
> > Phoenix wrote:
> > > K-Bar wrote:
> > > > What about animated movies? How would you compare Bakshi's Fritz the Cat
> > > > or the film Heavy Metal to today's full length Animated films i.e. full
> > > > length anime based movies? K-Bar
> > > Is Fritz the Cat a borderline soft porn anime?
> > yes.
>
> Walter watches porn? Oh my... :)
>
> Is Bakshi Japanese? I only saw the first 5 minutes of it, what's it
> about? What's Heavy Metal? This really isn't my area, the last
> Japanese anime I saw was The Ninja Scroll which I thought was pretty
> cool, except the ninja girl didn't have to die at the end.
>

Actually Bakshi's American. It could be said that Fritz was borderline
soft porn, but what about Japanese series like Urotsuki Doji, Countdown
and La Blue Girl which are just plain graphic porn. The differences I
think between anime and American cartoons are basicly the quality of anime
animation is considerably better and the voice actors (in anime) have to
attend special school. They work harder and it shows. K-Bar


> > The
almighty watches anime and smiles down on me!

> > Which does the Amlighty like the best? Batman, X-man, Spiderman, or
> Tick?
>

> > > Btw has anyone seen some old Chinese cartoons/anime? One about the
> > > monkey god, one about a deer and a little girl...
> >

> > Alakazam the Great! - Japanese animated file about an arrogant monkey who
> > is sent on a mission to learn about life.

K-Bar

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On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Walter Lee wrote:

> TrueMonk1 wrote:
> >
> > >Subject: Re: Cartoon Vs Anime
> > >From: Walter Lee <dry...@erols.com>
> > >Date: Fri, Mar 27, 1998 17:16 EST
> > >Message-id: <351C25...@erols.com>
> > >

> > >The almighty watches anime and smiles down on me!
> >

> > Well, god might be happy, but I don't know. Many of these anime flicks
> > are, well, too violent and sexually depraved. Come to think of it, a lot like
> > American movies. Oh, well.
>
> not all commerically available anime is violent and sexually depraved.
> for example, "Oh, My Goddess!", "You're Under Arrest!",
> "Graves of the Firefly!", "Night of the Galactic Railroad",
> "my neighbor totoro", and so forth.
>

Yeah not to mention the collected works of Rumiko Takahashi Urusei
Yatsura, Maison Ikoku, Mermaid Forest, Mermaid scar, Laughing Target,
Rumik World, Ranma Nibbunoichi and Inu Yahsa. That stuff is far from
perverse. K-Bar


> > >
> > >Alakazam the Great! - Japanese animated file about an
> > > arrogant monkey who is sent on a mission to learn about life.
> >

J. Matthew Greene

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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Phoenix alledgedly USENET-graffitied the following:

: Walter Lee wrote:
: > Phoenix wrote:
: > > Is Fritz the Cat a borderline soft porn anime?

: > yes.
: Walter watches porn? Oh my... :)
Hey, I've never seen it, but I knew it was porn. But then again,
it's b/c my mom told me. she saw it. That was during her really rebelous
peroid.

: about? What's Heavy Metal?
Based on a comic book, i think it's basically different cyber-punk/horror/
sci-fi/fantasy animation done to heavy metal music of the 70s (and early
80s?) I never saw it; I was too young to go see a R-rated flick at the
time, and I just never got the motivation to see it now.

: All the foreign toons I saw as a child were dubbed, most of them was


: pretty good as I remember, though sometimes I could hear the muffled
: original dialogue in the background.

Blame that on the Chinese studio who dubbed it. I've heard normally
studios rip away the "voicetrack" and replace it with a new one. But don't
take me for that one, that's just what I've heard.

: > cao


: Ummm, I hope this is not what I think it is. Pronounced in a certain
: way it is not a very nice word.

Oh my god! Walter used the "F-word"!!!!!! Shame! Shame!
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