MAUDOODI  IN  FAVOR  OF  AHMADI  MUSLIMS !!!
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Dear netters,

Salam (peace)

        You are probably aware of the  debate  going  on  between
Ahmadi-Muslims  and their non-Ahmadi counterparts, about the pro-
posed newsgroup

        SOC.RELIGION.ISLAM.AHMADIYYA

        Many non-Ahmadi Muslim sects, who are in a  majority  are
leaving  no  stone unturned to collect NO votes against the crea-
tion of this newsgroup.  They claim that Ahmadi-Muslims  are  not
Muslims,  since  their  beliefs  include  that the Messiah who is
awaited  by several non-Muslims and most Muslims,  has  appeared.
The  Ahmadi-Muslims  believe  that  Hazrat  Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of
Qadian, India, (1835-1908) is the person still  awaited  by  oth-
ers,  and as predicted by former non-Muslim and *Muslim* sources,
is a prophet. Although (non-Ahmadi) Muslims believe that the Mes-
siah  who  would  come back to the world would be a Prophet, they
somehow cannot accept the fact that Hazrat Ahmad could be a  pro-
phet.   Their  opposition has gone on to create a new belief that
to be a Muslim, one has to believe in the "finality  of  prophet-
hood"  of  Muhammad (peace be upon him), that no prophet can ever
appear after him, in contradiction with a  saying  of  their  own
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) narrated by his wife, Hazrat
Ayesha, according to which: anyone who introduces  an  innovation
into our faith is not one of us.

        I present here a quote from a renowned Muslim Scholar who
founded  the  Jama'ti Islami, quite widespread in the Indian sub-
continent, who did not consider belief in the "FINALITY  OF  PRO-
PHETHOOD"  to  be  a  prerequisite of belief in Islam.  He is the
well known:

        (late) MAULANA SYED ABUL 'ALA MAUDOODI

        In spite of his opposition  to  the  Ahmadiyya  Community
(the  establishment of which he lived to see), he did not include
the finality condition in the following  statement  in  which  he
unequivocally  claimed that belief in Islam needed only the reci-
tal of the Kalima (motto/slogan of belief).

        The quote is from "KHUTABAAT", page 53 (Islamic  Publica-
tions  Limited,  13-E,  Shah Alam Market, Lahore (West Pakistan);
Branch 16-Baitul Mukarram, First floor, Dhaka (East Pakistan).

Quote follows, first in Urdu  and  then  translated  for  English
readers:
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                   "KALIMA TAYYIBA KAY MA'NEE:

        Bradraanay Islam, aap ko  ma'loom  hai  ke  insaan  daira
Islam  mein  aik  kalima  par kar daakhil hota hai; aur wo kalima
bhee kuch bohut ziyada lamba chaura naheen hai, siraf chand lafaz
hain:

        LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAHU MUHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAHI

        'Allah kay siwa koi khudaa  naheen,  Muhammad  Allah  kay
rasool hain'

        In alfaaz ko zuban say adaa kartay  hee  aadmi  kuch  say
kuch  ho  jaata  hai.   Pehlay  kaafir  tha, ab musalmaan ho gia.
Pehlay naapaak tha, ab paak ho gia.  Pehlay khuda kay ghazab  kaa
mustahiq  tha,  ab  uss  ka  piyaara  ho gia.  Pehlay dozakh main
jaanay waala tha, ab jannat ka darwaaza uss kay liyay  khul  gia.
Aur  baat  siraf  itnay hee par naheen rehtee.  Issee kalimay kee
wajah say aadmi aur aadmi main bara farq ho jaata  hai.   Jo  iss
kalimay  kay  parnay  waalay hain wuh aik ummat hotay hain aur jo
iss say inkaar kartay hain wuh  doosree  ummat  ho  jaatay  hain.
Baap agar kalima parnay waala hai aur bayta uss say inkaar kartaa
hai to goya baap baap nah raha aur bayta bayta  nah  raha.   Baap
kee  jaidaad  say  uss  baytay ko virsah nah milay gaa.  Maan aur
behnain tak uss say pardah karnay lagain gee..."

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                   TRANSLATION (my own words)
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        "THE MEANING OF KALIMA TAYYIBA:

        Brothers in Islam, you know that a person enters the fold
of  Islam by reading (reciting) a kalima.  And that kalima is not
a very long one, it is just a few words:

        LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAHU MUHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAHI

        'There is no God other  than  Allah,  Muhammad  (SAS)  is
Allah's Messenger'

        As soon as man recites these words by the tongue, he  be-
comes  totally  transformed: Before, he USED TO BE A KAAFIR (DIS-
BELIEVER); NOW HE HAS BECOME A  *MUSLIM*; He used to  be  impure,
now  he has become pure; he deserved the wrath of God, now he has
become His loved one; he was hell-bound, now the gate  of  heaven
is  open for him.  And the matter does not get settled here.  Due
to this very kalima one man becomes very different from  another.
Those  who  recite this kalima are one community and those who do
not believe it become another community.  If the  father  recites
the  Kalima and the son rejects it, it is as if the father ceases
to remain the father and the son does  not  remain  the  son  any
more.   That  son will not inherit from the wealth of the father.
Even his mother and sisters will veil  themselves  off  from  him
(due to estrangement)..."

                     <<<<<END OF QUOTE>>>>>

        Although I do not agree with  some  of  the  comments  he
made,  the  point  here is that he did not consider belief in the
FINALITY OF PROPHETHOOD as a necessary ingredient  of  belief  in
Islam.   If he were alive, he might have voted *YES* for S.R.I.A.
(if he had e-mail, of course)  :-)

        It is  interesting that all Ahmadi Muslims believe in the
very same set of words that constitute the Muslim Kalima, and yet,
they are singled out for persecution.  It is deplorable that some
Ahmadi Muslims have  been imprisoned in Pakistan for  wearing  on
their chests  badges of the Kalima, under the Pakistan Penal Code
amendments in article 298, sections  B and  C, according to which
an Ahmadi Muslim is liable to imprisonment for three years in ad-
dition to fine if they "pose as Muslims".

In article <120...@bu.edu> kha...@bu-bio.bu.edu (Rasheed A. Khalid) writes:

  Some people consider honesty an optional part of Islam, as the above quote
illustrates.

In article <C7L5En....@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, m...@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
(Mazen Mokhtar) in refrence to Ma'doodi you write:

"O SON OF SPIRIT! The best beloved of all things in My sight is Justice; turn
not away therefrom if thou desirest Me, and neglect it not that I may confide
in thee. By its aid thou shalt see with thine own eyes and not through the eyes
of others, and shalt know of thine own knowledge and not through the knowledge
of thy neighbor. Ponder this in thy heart; how it behooveth thee to be. Verily
justice is My gift to thee and the sign of My loving-kindness. Set it then
before thine eyes."                [Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words #2]

Warm regards,

        [Why the hell he had to come to Pakistan which he opposed?
         Why he did not stay in India?]

        Well on other side Ahmadis did support Pakistan and it
        was not a chance that an important post in the cabinet
        was given to an ahmadi (by Mohammad Ali Jinnah himself).

        I remember only one "Share" of a long nazim by Habib Jalib,
        on the death of Modoodi in United State;

        "Mara hay pa-uon pay aqa kay rukh kay sir logo
         Kahan say a-ay ga ub aysa rahber logo"

        I do not care who among YOU are AHMADIS is a "real"
        muslim, but please do not distort history.

                      HISTORIC MUSLIM RALLY

                                                                                                                          by Obeyd Ullah
                                             Jersey City, NJ

                                        e-mail:
                                         chou...@andromeda.rutgers.edu

Two weeks before humanity assembles in the sacred land of Mecca
for the Hajj, the lawn on Capitol Hill in front of the Washington
Monument was transformed into a semblance of the plain of Arafat,
where Muslims of every nationality, every age, every gender come
together for the sake of Allah. Making history, tens of thousands
of Muslims gathered in Washington DC on May 15 to demand justice
for their brothers and sisters in Bosnia. The largest Muslim
demonstration ever in the US, police estimates put the crowd at
above 60 grand, while many participants approximated 100,000.

The rally was organized by the Bosnia Task Force, a coalition of
the major Islamic organizations and communities across North
America. This was the first time that virtually all Islamic
organizations, centers, communities and mosques on the East Coast
had come together in a single gathering. The Majlis As-Shura of
New York sent more than 45 buses, while Muslims from New Jersey
and Connecticut came in similar numbers. Muslims even came from
as far as California and Canada. Two planes also came carrying
Muslims from the Midwest. One could find Muslims at every rest
area on the major highways leading to Washington.

After gathering in front of the White House, the Muslims marched
down to Capitol Hill. The unending crowd shocked spectators and
participants alike, and the police seemed overwhelmed. At the
Capitol lawn, various speakers addressed the giant crowd.

While people shed tears and hung their heads in shame, sister
Suada Semra Charaf of Bosnian descent spoke passionately of the
inhuman atrocities being committed against the Muslim women by
the Serbs.

Imam Jamil Al-Amin spoke of the need for Muslims to prepare
themselves for everything. As a police helicopter ominously
circled overhead, he declared to the massive crowd, "We come here
today in peace, with banners and placards. But tomorrow we may
come in full armament."

Yusuf Islam, formerly Cat Stevens, flew in from the UK, and
addressed an eager audience. He castigated the Muslim governments
for their failure to fulfill their obligations towards the
Bosnian Muslims, since "it is the obligation of those who have
the power to stop the evil." Pointing to the Capitol building, he
asserted, "This is the Qiblah of the Muslim nations." He was
impressed by the crowd and expressed his appreciation and support
of the Muslims in America. "Make this the beginning of much more
activity by the Muslims in America," he urged.

In a symbolic gesture of unity, and perhaps for the first time
ever, a Shiah imam addressed a largely Sunni audience. Shaikh
Sahalani of the Al-Khoei foundation in Jamaica, NY  declared that
the suffering in Bosnia hits each and every Muslim heart. Urging
unity, he asserted "We lost our power because we lost our unity.
Insha'allah we will regain our victory with unity."

Imam Siraj Wahhaj of Brooklyn read the "Declaration of Muslims in
America about the Muslims in Bosnia and Hercegovina,"  which,
among other things, demanded the arms embargo be lifted and
called for strategic air strikes on Serbian targets. The
declaration also called for Muslims to "organize themselves under
a unified, national leadership." An enthusiastic crowd approved
the resolution by a show of hands, and it was adopted by the
organizers, who ended the rally by declaring, "this is the
beginning."

As usual, the coverage in the mainstream media was minimal and
distorted. Most TV news reports in the tri-state area showed a
few clips, if any, lasting several seconds and announced the
crowd to be 15,000, while Eyewitness News (WABC) put the crowd at
three thousand in their 6 pm broadcast ! WINS (1010 AM) described
the crowd over the radio as "thousands of angry Bosnian Muslims."

The rally, despite its successes, also pointed to some
weaknesses. Muslims still have a long way to go. The crowd
overexceeded expectations, and the organizers were clearly
overwhelmed and had a hard time trying to control them. The
marching crowd was not very responsive to the call of the
leaders, and at Capitol lawn, thousands of Muslims sat down on
the sides despite calls by the organizers for all to sit on the
center lawn where they could be seen. When the Prayers started,
sisters prayed mixed with the men. Muslims clearly lack
discipline, and Muslim communities must begin training and
working to provide it.

A  D R O P L E T
From the Vast Ocean of Miraculous Qur'an

Vol 1, No 12, Part 4
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MU'CIZAT-I AHMEDIYYE RISALESI (19th Letter)
A TREATISE ON THE MIRACLES OF MUHAMMAD Continued, Part-7

Ouestion: What is the benefit of citing the chain of transmission of a
narration at such a degree that  even if it is not needed in the case of a
well-known, famous incident they still say,'So-and-so informed so-and-so,
etc.'?  
 Answer:  Its benefits are many.  One is that the citing of the chain shows the
 concurrence   of the truthful, reliable,   and   exacting  
narration-scientists   and   the unanimity of the discerning authorities whose
names  are included.   This  is  as  if  each  and  every  one  of  those
scholars and authorities puts his signature on the accuracy of the tradition,
and places his seal on it.    

Question:  Why  were  the  miraculous  events  not transmitted in the form of
tawatur and in as many ways (channels)  and  with  as  great  emphasis  as  the
 basic injunctions (commands) of the Sacred Law (the Sharia):  
Answer:  Because the majority of the commands of the Sacred  Law are always
needed  by the  majority  of people  for they all are applicable to each
individual.  But every one need not know every miracle; even if he does, it
suffices him to hear it only once.  It is, in fact, like the kind of obligation
the observance of which some will absolve the rest; it is quite enough for
miracles to be known only to some.  For this reason, even if the occurrence and
reality of a miracle is established to a degree ten times greater than an
injunction of the Sacred Law, it will still come to us through one or two
narrators,  whereas the  injunction  is narrated by ten or twenty persons.    

Fourth  Essential  :   The  future  events  that  Allah's Most Noble Messenqer
[SAW] predicted were not isolated incidents;  instead  he  predicted  general
and  recurring events in a particular way.  That is, in each such report, he
displayed a different aspect of one phenomenon out of several.   This is why
when  the narrator combines these different aspects, they may seem at variance
with  realty. There are, for example, varying narrations concerning the Mahdi,
each with different  details and descriptions.    However,  as  was  explained
in  a  section  of  the Twenty-Fourth Word, Allah's Messenger (SAW)  gave  the
tidings, relying on revelation, of a Mahdi who would come in every century to
preserve the faith of the Muslims, help them not to fall into despair in the
face of disasters, and link the  hearts  of the  believers  with  the  people
of  the Prophet's Family (RA) that constitute a luminous chain in the world of
Islam.  Similar to the Great Mahdi (AS) who is promised to come at the end of
time, one or more Mahdis from the Prophet's Family (RA), have been found in
every century.  Indeed,  one of them, was among the Abbasid Caliphs  who  were
the  descendants  of  the  Prophet's Family, and had many of the
characteristics of the Great Mahdi.   The  reason,  then,  for  the  apparent
variance between  the  different  narrations  (concerning  Mehdis)  is that the
qualities of the Great Mahdi (AS) were confused with those of the revivalists
(muceddids) who precede him.
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To be Continued Allah Willing
Irfan Alan, A Servant of Islam                      
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Politics Based On Benefit Is A Monster!
     The present politics whose gears are built for personal benefits is an
ambitious monster.  If you show humbleness to that hungry monster, you would
never receive its mercy, rather its appetite would increase.  It would devour
you.   Later, it would turn back asking for the rent of its teeth and nails!
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        Within. Aldoush weaves modern Persian poetry into a fabric of ancient
        Iranian folk melodies and rhythms. Their new album, The Child within
        combines jazz, classical, early renaissance and Middloe Eastern
        village music. The music and words are of spiritual nature.

        The Human Exchange perform on electric fretless bass, saxophone,
        clarinet, jazz percussion, and traditional Persian percussion.
        Aldoush plays accustic guitar and two custom built instruments
        modeled after the persian tanboor.

        Place:  La Pena Cultural Center, 3105 Shattuck Ave in Berkeley ( Ashby )
        Date:   Friday May 21, 1993 at 8:15 PM
        Info:   510-601-8600
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From mxahmad Mon May 17 12:33:21 PDT 1993
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        ********    Aldoush And The Human Exchange In Concert  *******
                        Periasn Contemporary Folk Music

        Aldoush and The Human Exchange perform their new album, The Child
        Within. Aldoush weaves modern Persian poetry into a fabric of ancient
        Iranian folk melodies and rhythms. Their new album, The Child within
        combines jazz, classical, early renaissance and Middloe Eastern
        village music. The music and words are of spiritual nature.

        The Human Exchange perform on electric fretless bass, saxophone,
        clarinet, jazz percussion, and traditional Persian percussion.
        Aldoush plays accustic guitar and two custom built instruments
        modeled after the persian tanboor.

        Place:  La Pena Cultural Center, 3105 Shattuck Ave in Berkeley ( Ashby )
        Date:   Friday May 21, 1993 at 8:15 PM
        Info:   510-601-8600
        Tickets:$8.00 advance, $9.00 at the door Available At: Shambhala Books
                                                               2482 Telegraph
                                                               510-848-8443

                                                               Papa's Resturant
                                                               2026 University
                                                               510-841-0884

        Aldoush will be on: KALW 91.7 FM, Wednesday May 26 at 8:00 PM.
                            KQED 88.5 FM, Sat&Sun June 12&13(West Coast Weekend)

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Translation of the Qur'an.

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