Hello! (introduction)
Gretchen Mullendore
community. I have worked through most of the issues inside myself (for now
anyways) by talking with local support groups and the like. But now I'm
looking to have a _fun_ relationship with a woman. I've dated a lot men, but
it's beyond me completely how to meet women! Especially since I can't hang
out at the bars for another month and a half. So, if you're a flirt like
myself, please e-mail me! (gret...@fqw.com) Men can write, too, but I
prefer a babe. ;)
Warm thoughts for sluts everywhere,
Gretch
Orc
and that it might fit better in the newly formed alt.personals.bi.
Here's the letter in question - does it seem reasonable?
To: gret...@ugcs.caltech.edu
Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
In-Reply-To: <2h4h3c$o...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
There's a new newsgroup called alt.personals.bi, which is where you
should be posting this article. Soc.bi frowns upon personals, and
you're as likely to get flamed as to get email from posting
personals here. The FAQ for soc.bi mentions these things - if you
can't find a copy of it, ask your news administrators where FAQs
can be found.
In article <2h4h3c$o...@gap.cco.caltech.edu> you write:
[personal deleted]
Gretchen Mullendore
I have cancelled my posting. Sorry about the mistake. I actually got the
idea from reading alt.personals.bi! (go figure!)
-Gretch
Orc
Gretchen Mullendore <gret...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
[the flinging of email and postings regarding posting personals]
>I have cancelled my posting. Sorry about the mistake. I actually got the
>idea from reading alt.personals.bi! (go figure!)
"I think what we have here is a failure to communicate"
The mind boggles over what's in alt.personals.bi; I think I'll
have to pop over there and see what's going on, just for the
amusement value.
____
david parsons \bi/ o...@pell.com
\/
Albert Lunde
I do make a short weekly posting (sort of a mini-FAQ) that mentions
soc.bi and says: "It is *not* a place to post personal ads -- you
will get flamed if you do."
So far it is not high traffic but seems to be serving purposes within
the charter.
--
Albert Lunde | Interfaith | *Y*Y* "A branch on the
Albert...@nwu.edu | Bisexual | *Y* tree of life"
| Feminist |.......|.........................
Muffy Barkocy
In article <2h4h3c$o...@gap.cco.caltech.edu> gret...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Gretchen Mullendore) writes:
>Hi! I'm a 20 yr old from Southern Cal who's still rather new to the bi
>looking to have a _fun_ relationship with a woman.
This is much more of a personal than an introduction. Personals do not
belong on soc.bi, they belong on alt.personals.* (including
alt.personals.bi).
Muffy
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mu...@fish.com | best/we can achieve/and wearing badges
"amorous inclinations"? Aha! I'm | is not enough/in days like these~
not "not straight," I'm *inclined*.| -- Billy Bragg
Queen Without A Country
> I followed up to this, pointing out that it's sort of a personal
>and that it might fit better in the newly formed alt.personals.bi.
>Here's the letter in question - does it seem reasonable?
Perfectly. Do I detect an "issue" here? Your response is perfectly
clear, and IMHO, not hostile or troubling in any way. I can't
imagine why you, Orc, would have to ask, unless something's afoot
(which it are - it are the thing at the end of aleg).
Mike, mightly glad the colorful nomad is still much in evidence
hereabouts
--
Mike Lloyd, retro-hippy, | "People will tell you where they've gone, they'll
music nut, bi, and | tell you where to go, but 'till you get there
backrubber of devotion | yourself you never really know" - Joni Mitchell
--* The end of confusion is the beginning of death *--
Jessica
> Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 19:54:59 GMT
> In article <2h6os9$t...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
> Gretchen Mullendore <gret...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> [the flinging of email and postings regarding posting personals]
>
> >I have cancelled my posting. Sorry about the mistake. I actually got the
> >idea from reading alt.personals.bi! (go figure!)
>
> "I think what we have here is a failure to communicate"
>
>
> The mind boggles over what's in alt.personals.bi; I think I'll
> have to pop over there and see what's going on, just for the
> amusement value.
I was just thinking the exact same thing but *alas!* I cannot get
access for some reason. surely my school wouldn't filter *it* out and
yet still give us access to rec.arts.erotica ? Is there any other
reason I wouldn't get it ?
jess (confusled)
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Jessica <an4...@anon.penet.fi> wrote:
>> The mind boggles over what's in alt.personals.bi; I think I'll
>> have to pop over there and see what's going on, just for the
>> amusement value.
>
>I was just thinking the exact same thing but *alas!* I cannot get
>access for some reason. surely my school wouldn't filter *it* out and
>yet still give us access to rec.arts.erotica ? Is there any other
>reason I wouldn't get it ?
Well, any site can choose to carry or not to carry any newsgroup --
and newly created alt. groups are often not universally propagated.
If your site doesn't get alt.personals it likely would not have
alt.personals.bi.
I also have some evidence that, in this case, the command to create
the newsgroup did not reach all sites carrying alt.personals --
I plan to do something to correct this in the next week or so
unless someone on alt.config presents a strong argument to the
contrary.
Gretchen Mullendore
>This is much more of a personal than an introduction. Personals do not
>belong on soc.bi, they belong on alt.personals.* (including
>alt.personals.bi).
>Muffy
I realize that my 'introduction' did come off as a personals ad, and I
apologize for that slant, however, with the amount of follow-ups that I'm
getting, I was wondering what a appropriate 'introduction' would be, or is
that also frowned upon.
It seems that this issue has been discussed in depth before my arrival on
this list and I'm very willing to carry on a discussion by e-mail rather
than irritate the list further.
This post may come of rather negatively, but let me say that I really have
enjoyed this list and the intelligent discussions within. I hope that my
initial faux pas will not color your opinions of me...
(would like more specific info on getting the FAQ)
Gretch
Muffy Barkocy
In article <2hecr7$9...@gap.cco.caltech.edu> gret...@ugcs.caltech.edu
(Gretchen Mullendore) writes, in response to me telling her that
personals don't belong here:
>I realize that my 'introduction' did come off as a personals ad, and I
>apologize for that slant, however, with the amount of follow-ups that I'm
>getting, I was wondering what a appropriate 'introduction' would be, or is
>that also frowned upon.
Have you been *reading* this group at all? I have seen a half-dozen
demuffinings in the last week or so. People introduce themselves all
the time. What makes it a "personal ad" rather than an "introduction"
is when you say things like (paraphrased from longer stuff in your post)
"babes, please email me." Frankly, why should we? Here's the
information about you from your introduction:
1. 20
2. S. Cal
3. "have worked through issues"
4. <implied> bisexual
5. have dated lots of men
6. want a relationship with a woman
What is there there to inspire anyone to write? What is there to *say*
in response to that? Sure, someone with the time and inclination can
come up with any number of questions about you (particularly given the
paucity of information in your introduction), but it would be nicer of
you to actually *introduce* yourself, by letting us know something
meaningful about you, or what you think. Then, those people that that
appeals to have a starting point for writing to, rather than having to
do all the work of getting to know who you are themselves.
For example, here's an intro I used about 7 months ago (a bit dated
(I'm 28 now, have four cats, etc.), but accurate then):
age: 27
sex: female
orientation: bisexual (discovered about 2.5 years ago, but I have a
strong feeling I've always been that way, just didn't know
enough nice women to discover an attraction)
relationship preference: polyamorous
height: 5'8"
weight: 113 lbs
hair: to-shoulder, artificially curly, brown
eyes: beautiful blue (so I'm told...*grin*)
skin: very pale, with freckles (courtesy of a redheaded mother)
siblings: one brother
parents: one mother (raised by just my mother)
cats: three (Death, Chloe, Flame)
current relationships: in love with one man, extremely admiring of one
woman, one male lover on hold, love several other
people of both sexes, lusting after several women
and one man
degree: BS in CS, 1987, SFSU
favorite programming language: LISP
programming area: user interfaces
current job: Q/A for Informix
shoe size: 9 narrow
bra size: 36 B
waist: 24
hips: 35
clothes: generally black, jeans and t-shirts, away from home. generally
none, at home.
sexual interests: giving or receiving oral, anal, vaginal; bondage-lite
(hoping for a female lover to wrestle with - the one
who said she would dumped me before we got around to
it); biting; pouring oil on the other person and
sliding around; probably lots of other things...*smile*.
public sex: too shy
PDAs: lots and lots
group sex: only with three, so far
hat size: unknown
interests: cooking, philosophy, dancing, puzzles, board games, word
games
hot tubs: definitely! we have to get one installed!
bed preference: waterbeds
favorite color: black (purple, for those who don't think black is a
color)
marital status: married, but in the process of being divorced - I'll be
divorced the same day I was married, Halloween
sexual relationships: approx. 27 men (I lost count, but it was close to
my age), 4 women
jewelry: silver (new necklace since this weekend - a nice scene with
trees and an opal moon)
jacket: leather (but "very femme," as my friends say...*grin*)
places lived: (born in) Suffern, NY; New Brunswick, NJ; Richmond, VA;
Milford, CT; Cromwell, CT; Killingworth, CT; Waverly, VA;
Richmond, VA; San Francisco, CA; Oakland, CA; San
Francisco, CA (and I'm *not* leaving!)
Can't think of any more personal details at the moment...*smile*...
Orc
Queen Without A Country <mi...@fish.com> wrote:
>Orc <o...@pell.com> wrote:
>>[uncharacteristic reasonableness when replying to misplaced personals]
>>Here's the letter in question - does it seem reasonable?
>Perfectly. Do I detect an "issue" here? Your response is perfectly
>clear, and IMHO, not hostile or troubling in any way. I can't
>imagine why you, Orc, would have to ask, unless something's afoot
>(which it are - it are the thing at the end of aleg).
It's fallout from a science experiment; I'm following up on a
particularly gratifying flamewar on soc.singles where the usual
crew of clueless newbies are shrieking about the evil soc.singles
cabal and how it's so mean and nasty for us to send flames when a
'please don't post personals' email will suffice. What I'm trying
to determine is whether polite replies, both posted and sent in
email, are visible enough to deter personals, and, to avoid
contaminating the test, I'm also avoiding flamage on other
groups.
The experiment is titled 'positive reinforcement' and will be
followed, if unsuccessful, by the experiment titled 'total
thermonuclear war', which seems to have been successful in the
past.
____
david parsons \bi/ Dr. Science
\/
Skyler Bode
mu...@bi.fish.com (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>For example, here's an intro I used about 7 months ago (a bit dated
>(I'm 28 now, have four cats, etc.), but accurate then):
Yipe. 7 months ago? I thought you'd been around MUCH longer than that.
That's about when I de-muffined! And I never introduced myself as fully
as all that!
Hmm... Would a belated introduction do, or is one not necessary?
Lessee...
age: 25 (born on Mother's Day - now pagan (go figure))
gender: male
orientation: mad north-northwest, when the wind's from the south I can
tell a pass from a friendly hug; sexually, I'm ravenously
bi but have yet to fall in love with a man.
hair color: brown, reddish if I spend enough time in the sun (thanks mom)
skin color: pink, reddish if I spend enough time in the sun :-)
eye color: gold (you guessed it: reddish if I spend too much time awake)
height: 6'2"
mass: hovers around 100 kg
surface area: less than 1 hectare :-)
volume: low unless I'm aroused, excited or angry :-)
energy: ditto
gamy: polyamourous
bra size: never tried it: haven't seen one that fits
hat size: x-large (7 3/4)
interests: music, reading, music, gaming, sex, music, cooking, music,
backrubs, sex, gadgets, e-mail and music
relationships: 3 romantic, 8 sexual to date, a dozen good friends
unnatural
habits: clothing (jacket and tie to work: jeans and t-shirts
elsewhere: The Hat (battered coachman's hat); leather jacket;
black trenchcoat; boots or sneakers); the occasional
pipe or cigarette; Scotch whisky; Guinness Extra Stout;
fascination with computers, cars and gadgets
group sex: a fair amount: quite enjoy it except for the fact that
cuddling everyone is very hard to do in groups of more
than 3
pets: used to have a cat, then another cat, then another cat; right
now, my home is too small for a cat...
Hmm... I've never done this "list" sort of an introduction before. It's
kind of fun...
Thanks for putting up with me. I hereby introduce myself to all of you.
(tips hat)
-skyler (in a very silly mood once again.)
--
___------ "And only the fools who cannot hear the song
Skyler Bode \ \ / / ask that the rules be posted.
sky...@panix.com \ / Hear the music. And enjoy.
\/ \/ But do not cry." -Harlan Ellison, "Eidolons"
Lt. Commander Data
>
>Hmm... Would a belated introduction do, or is one not necessary?
Can someone who seems to have offended get in on this? Apologies for the
previous posts; I thought it was okay to vent occassionally..
I pirated the following categories from skyler.. The results are mine.
age: 25
sex: male
gender: same
orientation: theory=bi; practice=heterosexual, currently sinful with SO..
hair color: red, prone to blondish following helio-exposure
skin color: translucent, lobster following prolonged helio-exposure
eye color: blue
height: 6'3"
mass: 190 lbs
surface area: enough to provide for adequate friction when necessary
volume: variable
energy: usu. several kilocalories/hour
gamy: as I mentioned above, cohab with SO
bra size: not applicable?
hat size: dunno
interests: human behavioral patterns (I'm an anthropologist);
population ecology; Darwin; human evolution; spontaneous
preparation of stir fry, or chili, or most any food with
a bite; Star Trek: The Next Generation (Picard has a
stellar crew, in case you didn't know); miscellaneous and
sundry other stuff..
relationships: since high school (9 years ago): 2 hetero; one great
(current), one not so great. Went four years with just
the bottle; the sex was great, but then science has shown
us that masturbation elicits the most powerful sexual
response.. Had a difficult time separating myself from
that damn bottle. (Things that make you go "Hmmm...")
habits: clothing: T-shirts and Dockers, everyday.
Work Boots (Redwings), black, everyday.
Hat, .45s (Houston .45s, pre-Astros, well-worn), everyday
Leather or Denim jacket, when needed.
the occasional pipe; Guinness Extra Stout, as often as
possible; Music: I do a Rock and Roll stint at a local
station.. Don't really care for the music we play, but it
pays. Personally? The Waterboys are essential; Elvis
helps sometimes; Falco eases the stress; CDB and
Confederate RR are cool, as is Sammy Kershaw; numerous others.
group sex: ain't neva' done that. (You'll have to imagine the
Northern Maine accent).
pets: used to have a cat, then a dog (the kind of love you can feel.
I mean powerful. Then he had to up and die. Just great.),
then another dog, and he had to up and die, too. Lymphatic
cancer. Ugly damn way to go.
Currently No Pets Allowed.. ASAP - I plan on a huge Shepard.
My favorite critter.
Mostly I sit and read. And read. Some say boring.. I say it is in the
interest of economy of motion.
Desperately in need of bi people in this lousy community. The Lambda
group rarely has anything good to say about bisexuality. Usu. they cop
the typical stereotypes to make themselves feel better. Lots of prejudice
around here, in my experience. If you ain't gay, you ain't welcome.
Unless you are willing to fall for the predatory crap: "You have the most
beautiful eyes..." "You know, you are the most beautiful man I've seen
come here in months..." and various similar themes. I must say that I
have encountered more bias from gay men than from lesbians. We have some
extremely cool lesbians on this campus, and I am grateful for them.
Hey,, it's 1600, and ST:TNG is on in moments.. Gotta split
Many thanks for reading, etc.
Data out
Dave Berry
age: 21 (hexadecimal)
sex: male
orientation: bisexual (it's Kay's fault :-) )
politics: democratic socialism with a large element of anarchic green
religion: spiritual atheism, natural pantheism, occasional chats with Frey.
relationship preference: monogamous (it's simpler, and I'm only in love
with one person)
height: 6'1"
weight: 11 stone 6 ounces
hair: to-shoulder, reddish, wavy.
freckles: subtle
eyes: grey/green
skin: pale
siblings: two brothers, two sisters, all older than me.
parents: celebrating their golden wedding this year
cats: two (Scheherazade and Zuleika) in Edinburgh, sharing with two others
(Riff Raff and Madrigal) in Cambridge.
pretentiousness: only in the best *possible* taste
current relationship: motos, for 10 years, we must celebrate this sometime
current location: 325 miles from Edinburgh
bisexual conferences: Edinburgh, Edinburgh (organiser), London, Coventry,
San Francisco, Edinburgh (organiser), London, Norwich (organiser),
London, Nottingham.
soc.bi parties: who do you think started it all?
degrees: BSc in CS, 1983, Warwick; Ph.D. in CS, 1990, Edinburgh
favourite programming language: SML
current job: language design, environment implementation, writing a textbook
favourite cities: Edinburgh, San Francisco
shoe size: 11
waist: 34
clothes: from the ordinary (jeans and jumper) to the bright
hugs: I want to be huggy, I just don't seem to manage it
group sex: only with three, so far
interests: board games, interesting music, reading, rolegames, food
favourite musicians: Hawkwind, Michael Nyman band, John Surman, Dagmar Krause.
favourite authors: Samuel Delany, Marilynne Robertson, Iain M. Banks
favourite colour: all of them except brown and lime green
ambition: to be a curmudgeon
modes of transport: bicycle (see politics)
marital status: marriage doesn't have status
sexual relationships: 2 men, 4 women
jewelry: brightly coloured earrings, yin-yang earrings
winter jacket: bikers jacket
summer jacket: multicoloured patchwork
places lived: (born in) Bristol, Somerset, Cambridge (yuck), Coventry,
Leamington Spa, Edinburgh, Cambridge (and I *am* leaving).
--
Dave Berry, Harlequin Ltd., Barrington Hall, Cambridge, CB2 5RG, UK.
MLWorks is a happy smiling product, and smokes a pipe.
Dave Berry
>marital status: married, but in the process of being divorced - I'll be
> divorced the same day I was married, Halloween
One of my cousins and his wife recently married on their tenth wedding
anniversary.
ObBi: none at all.
Dave.
AardPiglet
> The experiment is titled 'positive reinforcement' and will be
>followed, if unsuccessful, by the experiment titled 'total
>thermonuclear war', which seems to have been successful in the
>past.
Oh, goody! I'm looking forward to that. 'Positive reinforcement"
is too bloody boring.
Piglet
AardPiglet
>For example, here's an intro I used about 7 months ago (a bit dated
>(I'm 28 now, have four cats, etc.), but accurate then):
Not to mention
>hair: to-shoulder, artificially curly, brown
Piglet
Muffy Barkocy
In article <2hjn9u$1...@panix2.panix.com> sky...@panix.com (Skyler Bode) writes:
>In article <MUFFY.94J...@bi.fish.com>
>mu...@bi.fish.com (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>>For example, here's an intro I used about 7 months ago (a bit dated
>>(I'm 28 now, have four cats, etc.), but accurate then):
>Yipe. 7 months ago? I thought you'd been around MUCH longer than that.
>That's about when I de-muffined! And I never introduced myself as fully
>as all that!
Actually, I didn't use it here, I used it on another bi-list. I've been
around here much longer...indeed, I read soc.bi when it first came in to
existence, although I left within a month or so due to the appalling
"how to test people to see if they're *really* bi" thread. About a year
and a half ago I started reading again...I couldn't sleep one night and
ended up reading through about 1600 articles.
Muffy
Francois Souchay
>
>Actually, I didn't use it here, I used it on another bi-list. I've been
>around here much longer...indeed, I read soc.bi when it first came in to
>existence, although I left within a month or so due to the appalling
>"how to test people to see if they're *really* bi" thread.
"Real Bisexuals" :
...I think the word "bisexual" is over-used, misused, and abused,
with the results being great assaults upon _my_ own identity!
Yeah, Clarice, so you're bi, they say. So you must be a swinger
or confused...but the worst is "Oh, I went through THAT PHASE too."
Not to mention "But everyone's bisexual, aren't they."
So to simplify everything I've made up "Clarice's Real Bisexual
Certification Kit". It's got *the* questionnaire to ascertain
your claim to "bisexual" status... based on _my_ criteria of course.
First : Have you slept with, had real gutsy passionate sex with
at least 5 men _and_ 5 women?
Second : Are you absolutely equally passionately attracted to both
men and women?
Third : Have you had at least one succesful 2 yr relationship
with _each_ a man and a woman?
Fourth : Are you *fully* out to *everyone* as bisexual, and are you
active in the gay community as an out bisexual?
Fifth, and last : Are you at the present engaged in a stable and
ongoing relationship with one man _and_ one woman?
That's it! If you answered yes to each and every question you may
fill out the enclosed certificate : you _are_ a Real Bisexual!!!
As for the rest of you, find yourself another label!! You may want
to try "BI-CURIOUS" until you know what you are, and leave my label to me!!!
quoted from "Odds 'n Ends of Liliane" -- Leanne Franson
Francois.
Orc
Well, whatever. Flaming clueless personals.posters isn't a
particularly satisfying task, even though it does work, because
they tend to stand there, looking confused, as the anvil drops
towards them. And when one of the Ignorati gets squished, it
seems to bring out a cloud of groupies, all buzzing about
self-importantly and whining "Oh, you're so *mean*, since it's not
*nice* to flame people who are too stupid to live!" (it's not that
bad here in soc.bi, thank god, but in soc.singles it's become a
plague.)
And, anyway, I just want to see people pay attention to the FAQs
and post the personals in alt.personals, where they bloody belong.
And the US Government has informed me that they would frown upon my
nuking PSU and wherever Delphi.com is located, and tells me that if
I don't return those ukranian MIRVS that they'll put the BATF on
the case. (I'm somewhat fond of LA, and would hate to see the BATF
convert it into a wasteland in a clumsy attempt to take the nukes
away from me.) So I'll be *nice*, and send them mail, and post
that mail, and just let the venomous bile accumulate so I can use
it one more satisfying targets.
____
david parsons \bi/ politenessman.
\/
Candide
[hope you don't mind...]
age: 24.5 yrs.
gender: male
sexual
orientation: "bi"
sexual
preference: Karl! :)
hair color: brown, even if I spend enough time in the sun :)
skin color: pink-beige, brown if I spend enough time in the sun
(no, not tan, brown - it's those genes from my
mediterranian ancestors)
eyes: hazel
height: 6'2.5"
mass: 6.09 slugs
weight: 190ish lbs
volume: probably not that large, considering I'm kinda dense :)
energy: 26000000000 Joules (when at rest)
gamy: well, I just tried polyamory, but I'm having trouble
parallel processing with my heart - (the CPU keeps
crashing (must be a 286) ) Any advice?
hat size: big (Ok, I'm a fathead :)
hats: Colorado Rockies & Cubs caps, various wintrish woolen
thingies, the Rain Hat (a Totes), the Tweed Hat, and,
most special, the Germay Hat (a blue cap that I hunted
all over Germany for - goes with...)
coats: of note, the Blue Overcoat I picked up in Berlin in a
second-hand shop where one paid for the clothing by the
kilo. It extends well below my knees (no easy feat),
weighs a ton, and has the curious property that it's
always warm, but never overly warm, regardless of
weather(well, almost...)
interests: They change with the wind, and at the moment, include
the wind, weather, atmosphere-ocean interactions,
computing, reading, various and sundry forms of music,
especially Balinese, cooking (I'm a great cook),
massage, lifting, biking, and Karl! (you could see
that one coming)
transportation: The Three B's - bicycle, bus, bummin' a ride from a friend
relationships: I must be _the_ late bloomer of soc.bi. Didn't become
physically attracted to another human being until I
was 18. Didn't become romantically attracted to
another person until I was 20, and didn't know what it
even was at the time (she and I are still friends; I
have, since then, wanted it to be more on occasion,
but I haven't seen Jan in years). Didn't start dating
until I was 23. Since then - 1 woman, (wanted to get
involved with another, but she didn't) 1 1/2 men (that
polyamory attempt has me soooo confooosed!!)
group sex: are you kidding?!
pets: my parents have two cats, Minx and Mischief. I will
own my own someday.
Sky's right! This is fun!
--
-Candide N49 l--- a+ f++ n++ e+ d m-- b- g v u++ w+++
"'Wait!' shouted Milo, who'd thought of many more questions he wanted to ask.
'Thirty-four pounds,' shrieked the bird as he disappeared into the fog."
- The Phantom Tollbooth
Bitty
Ack. I hate sounding like a personals ad, but here goes nuthin':
Preferred Nickname: Bitty
Age: 18, for 3 more days
Sex: Not often. Hahahahaha. Female.
Height: 5'3 3/4" And I'm DAMN proud o' that 3/4"!!!
Weight: Up and down. A year ago it was about 160. Now I vary
between 120-135.
Hair: Redhead wannabe; I have long thick curly brown hair.
When I take the time with it, it can look great.
Personally, I prefer to hide it beneath a hat.
It also gets in the way of kissing and other...
activities. *blush* Cousin It, anyone? *grin*
Eyes: "Yer so full o' shit yer eyes are brown!" - my mom
Clothing tendencies: Dark. Jeans/shorts, with tees/tanks/sweatshirts.
"Holy shit. I've known you over a year and this is the
first time I've seen you in a skirt." - Joan
However, when I _do_ take the time, like I had to over
the summer for work, I WILL take notice of my appearanc
and wear *shudder* a dress. *blech*
Hats: Had this charming black hat. Gave it away. I feel
decidedly naked without my Red Sox cap. When bored,
or embarrassed over a particular game, I have been
known to branch into a Cubs cap or an Amherst College
one.
Sports preferences: BASEBALL.
Will also play soccer and volleyball and wrestle, but
RED SOX '94 says it all.
Oh. And watching cheerleaders is cool, too. *grin*
Music: Don't gag. Classical (Tchaikovsky, Gershwin; most
Russian and eastern european Romanticcomposers), Ragtime,
Sousa, B'way, both old and new (Carousel, Gypsy,
Song&Dance, Phantom,etc...), John Williams and
similar filmscores, some R&B, REM, Blind Melon,
Pearl Jam, some Metallica and related stuff, Billy
Joel, The Doors, and I'm being corrupted into
liking Pink Floyd (*thppppppt*), and I'm generating
a decent collection of comedy CD's (George Carlin,
Robin Williams, Dr. Demento, Ren and Stimpy)
Books: Fantasy and sci-fi. Dragonsinger and Ender's Game.
Stapleholds of life: Pink Lemonade Snapple and Oceanspray Cran-Grape
Hobbies: Writing. Flute, french horn, and I'm currently
learning trombone. (to the chagrin of neighbors!)
Playing cards. Watching movies.
Phrase of the week: Bite me, you moronic nerfherding fuckheads.
Relationships: 2 serious, motos.
About 1/2 dozen "dating" nonserious. Waste.
Amory: Monogamous, so far. Don't know if I could be otherwise
Group sex: Same as above. Maybe.
Education: Sophomore at Amherst College, probably going to double
in English and History
Love: The Far Side, apple juice, my baby brother Brandon*hug*
my walkman, Uptown Girl, Star Wars, the Civil War, that
GREAT shot of Elle Macphearson (sp?) on my wall, Sim
City, cutting class, the Red Sox, Internet, Pathetique,
David Letterman, Princess Bride, Meaning of Life, music
cartography, pop tarts, Kafka, Roger Clemens, the blond
at the G.R., and my best friend Ian, and my friends
Dave, DT, Twisted, Oreo, and Lollipop.
I'm a workaholic, I procrastinate like all hell, I have a warped sense
of tumor, have no clue what i want to do with my life, hate my family, refuse
to date, have a messy room, and feel like blaring the Imperial March right now.
Kalaria
"I'm in a New York state of... mi-i-i-nd..."
--
Bethany Ramirez "Bitty" | "Open up your mind Let your fantasies unwind"
"I wonder what the gestation period is on a bottle of Clearly Canadian?"- Colin
"Knowing is half the battle. The other half is the penis." - Cheezit-Matt
"Are you here to arrange a trip, or would you just like a blowjob?" - M. P.
Matthew J Brown
haven't posted much to the group in the last nine months and therefore
the newer people won't know that much of me ... I agree with Bitty
(that was your preferred nickname, n'est pas?) that these look all nix2.panix.com>
<jweiss.7...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <2hunuq$l...@amhux3.amherst.edu>
Distribution:
Well, since several other people have done one of these, and since I
haven't posted much to the group in the last nine months and therefore
the newer people won't know that much of me ... I agree with Bitty
(that was your preferred nickname, n'est pas?) that these look all too
like personals, but ain't.
Name: Matthew Jude Brown
Net Name: Morven (sometimes called this in real life too, but not all
that often ...)
Usually Known As: Matt
Age: 20 (until the 7th of February ...)
Height: 5'11" - 6' (people insist I've grown lately)
Weight: About 15st-16st. No idea what that is in non-UK measures.
Hair: Black. Shoulder length. Thick. Slightly wavy. Some white
hairs (first at age 11 ...!)
Beard: Short, black with a few red hairs at the front. I'm not sure
I like it, but others seem to and it certainly beats shaving
from a laziness standpoint ...
Eyes: Blue appears to be the consensus, though it's a little dubious.
Clothing: Jeans (black). T-shirts (sometimes black), shirts etc. (ditto).
Black trainers past retirement age, or DM shoes.
Music: A mixture, though I can rarely afford CDs and I don't generally
use tapes, so I don't have nearly enough. The Orb, Tangerine
Dream, REM, Crowded House, Carter USM, Madonna are among the
cds sitting in my locker here at college, though I don't claim
that that is anything near representative!
Books: Fantasy, SF in the main: C.J. Cherryh, Gene Wolfe, Julian May,
Diane Duane, Nial Stephenson, Tad Williams, lots and lots and
lots of other stuff (I spend far far far far too much money on
books ...)
I have been known to read UNIX books etc. for bedtime reading.
Other Interests: Playing with computers; I spend far too much time sitting at
a Sun workstation doing very unproductive things.
Programming, too. Except the deathly boring assignments that
they hand out at college.
Antique and veteran cars (I help maintain and run a 1902 James
& Browne at college, including co-driving twice on the London -
Brighton Veteran Car Run.) Wish I could afford one of my own,
but it's a mite impractical ...
I'm a bit of a wannabe writer, too, mostly of sf/fantasy, though
I don't have the motivation really to get anywhere. Maybe
someday.
Going along to the London Bi Group and hanging round such as
there is of a bisexual community in London. There's more than
most places, which is hardly the same as *enough*.
Relationships: Currently and only since recently involved with a woman from
the London bi community who some people on here probably know,
so I won't say. Guess! Finding out that you don't have to
be someone's primary partner to have a good relationship.
Previous relationships: not many; more sex with men, more
emotional attachment with women, in general. All of them
have been bisexual.
Amory: Poly
Group sex: rarely. N >= 3 so far.
Education: Final year undergrad at the awful Imperial College. Studying
Computing, of course.
Random Extras: I talk too much, but listen too; I tend to get on with people
who are similar in this. I'm less wierd and fucked-up and
generally nutty than most people I know, but this says more
about my friends and acquaintances than myself ...
I'm a lazy horror in general, but prone to manic work if I'm
interested in something.
The World's Most Ticklish Person (TM)
Any more, come to BiCon this year, or fund my party attendance!
-Morven
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David Aaron Tepper
Preferred Nickname: Dave, Tep, Oh you virile specimen of hunkdom
Age: 21
Sex: Male.
Height: 5'11 1/2"
Weight: 200--will be less if I have any say in it!
Hair: Dark brown, thick, and curly hair.
Eyes: Grey/green/brown
Clothing tendencies: Jeans and sweatshirts.
Music: I'm starting to get into jazz right now.
Us-3 are GODS! The Dead, Lynyrd Skynyrd,
Aerosmith, humorous rap (not into gangsta).
And of course, Billy Joel and Bruce.
Books: Crichton. Piers Anthony. Scientific journals.
Favorite drinks: Snapple peach tea.
Hobbies: Essay writing, bridge, and beer games.
Phrase of the week: LSATs suck!!!
Relationships: 1 serious, motos.
Too many nonserious to count.
Amory: Isn't that in Georgia? Almost went there.
Group sex: Just not my cup of tea. Sorry.
Education: Senior at Princeton, majoring in Molecular
Biology. Currently thesis-stressing.
Love: Dancing, flirting, body shots, proper Southern
fried chicken, trivia games, my friends Alison,
Liz, Mike, Adam, Robin, Guy, Katherine-with-a-
K, Catherine-with-a-C, Scotty, Christian (and
many others *smile*). Ben and Kamal and
Rowan deserve a special place here.
I'm shy, wanton, warped, gentle, vicious, giggly, thoughtful,
spiritual, materialistic as hell, funny, moody, ticklish, mischievous,
huggable, and basically self-contradictory. Deal.
Y'know, this _is_ fun! Hugs to Kalaria and whoever started this in
the first place.
Dave
--
Kerry Eady
well I suppose an introduction is in order, here's to outing myself...
age: 25 (on Tuesday the 25th.)
sex: female
gender: same
orientation: bi, married to MOTOS
hair color: naturally red, currently dark brown
skin color: ranges from super pale with freckles, to translucent
eye color: yellow hazel (they're witchy and they change)
height: 5'2"
mass: 135 lbs
gamy: monogamous, but working on feelings about poly
bra size: 36 C (but i'm breastfeeding so they're overinflated)
hat size: dunno
interests: art theory and practice, performance art, hiking, camping,
babies!, eating good german and dutch food, papermaking,
ecofeminism, witchcraft, grannies, dancing, and herbs
relationships: between ages 11 and 16 3 women off and on but pretty hot
and heavy, 16 to 18 about 4 men, 6 women, 18 to present
1 man, 1 woman (okay, so I was a tramp in my youth, but I
was always a SAFE tramp
habits: clothing: tshirts, sweaters, army fatigue shorts, wooly
tights and hiking boots (or if I'm dressing up - combat
boots), hunting vest filled with art supplies, sexy
underwear,
I'm a big fan of Guinness Extra Stout too (did you know
it increases your milk flow?)
Music: all that celtic stuff, classical, Gyoto monks,
Hildegarde of Bingen (sexy lyrics from that nun!), and a
lot of annoying women's ethnic chants
group sex: Nope, not for this chick
pets: At present, one brainless cat - Homer, trying to convince
the hubby that we NEED another kitty and a crow
that's all for now,
Kerr
--
The energy has dropped - let's raise it sisters!
Lt. Commander Data
In article <1994Jan23....@princeton.edu>,
[intro. specifics deleted]
>Y'know, this _is_ fun! Hugs to Kalaria and whoever started this in
>the first place.
>
>Dave
I believe the basic format/idea originated with Muffy; at least I have
been told this. Perhaps a special thanks to her for
time/patience/permisssion/et cetera...
Thanks Muffy
Your friend,
Data
Data out
Bitty
Should add some small things (I HATE it when seeing something I forgot
but someone else didn't makes me go Oh shit! and smack my forehead but then I
forget again?):
Hm. Interests: Cosmic Wimpout, loving my friends (probably care about
other people more than is healthy for me), I'll probably be putting a
concentration on film into my English major (or British general hahahahaah
aren't I funny when in this kind of mood?!?!?!?), journalism, Good Quotes,
lemmings, tetris, theater ("Speak the speech, I pray you, as I have..."),
flying, making Dream Catchers, unicorns, renandstimpy, baking
I've had a serious problem in the past year trying to "be myself"
(shit happens when the one person who knew ME betrays all my trust and love);
I went into hiding and became the opposite of everything I truly felt (BAD
thing to do. BAD. caused TOO MANY PROBLEMS and i'm STILL suffering for it
now.) So what is this person INSIDE, this quiet little voice that is REALLY
me, but scared to death of the real world, relly like?
Kinda' quiet. (Yes, Colin, I know it seems hard to believe *grin*
But did you ever notice that the times I was happiest were when I was quiet?)
Worried about people. Used to be optimistic and loving and believed in the
"inherent goodness of all mankind" and ready to trust everybody. Learned
better the hard way, from the OTHER person who didn't know the meaning of
pessimism, who "dreamed the impossible dream" and hoped for a better world.
Right now, alt.bitterness is my style.
Still, the few people who know ME and whom I once trusted and loved
know me as someone who, if I'm going to love someone, I love them all the way,
usually a danger to myself. i tend not to hold grudges, another bad point in
my favor. well, it didnt used to be bad. It was this past year. I got hurt
real bad and thuis hurt everyone else whether or not I wanted to.
I am always existing in or around or with Music. Most important thing
about me. Even if there's no music playing (rare), tehre is music inside my
head. It never stops; I have actually sufferred overload of music twice;
another bad thing.
A good thing of late, that helps me know I'm back on the right track:
I'm creating my own music again. In my head, on the flute, or whatever, for
the first time since I "broke up" with my ex-bestfriend, I am hearing MY song
in my head. I lost track for quite a while.
But Ian and I agree: there is nothing without music. O' course, we
disagree on the music, but... I also associate everyone with a song or melody.
It's how I "know" somebody.
One of the things in life I enjoy is just being "one of the guys."
This was the third thing in my life I discovered that made me happy. (The
first was the moment I held my new baby brother in my arms and saw him open
his eyes. *foolish grin*)
I am always trying to make other people happy (SMILE, dammit colin!)
and even at my own expense (i burnt out BIG time last semester)
Other things f\rom other lists:
Bra Size: *thppppppt* I don't think so. Having a chest is one of the
damnedest annoyances ever. I remember fondly the pre-puberty
days...
Energy Level: High ("Wired", so Lukas calls me) in public; actually pretty
low when I'm contentedly being myself
Pets: What, you mean that animal of a teenage brother isn't a pet?
I've always wanted a little kitten, but I have this sneezing
problem. Had gerbils; died of brain tumors. (no joke.)
Other Nicknames: Evil, Bingo, Bits, Shorty, Sunshine (don't call me this one,
please.) Kalaria, Cousin It, Shadow, Oreo, Baby (hey, can
I help it if I was the only one who wasn't legal?) Perky,
(not anymore on THAT one!), Curly (Gee, it's always difficult
when imitating the 3 stooges), Lopez, Misfit #3, Wired,
Bitch, and a variety of others.
Things I WON'T do for money:
Random Sex. Umprotected sex. Murder. Steal. Eat in the D.C.
3 meals a day. Hurt somebody I love. (I do enough of that on
my own as it is) Give up my snickers' bars.
Things I WILL do for money:
Try me. I don't know.
Politics: Liberal, dammit.
Consd\idered one of the most liberal people in y high school,
yet more middle of the road here.
Turn-ons: Wouldn't you all like to know.
Honestly, I don't really know. Never enjoyed sex much; I was
generally in it for the otehr person. However, discovering
one of one's suppressed turn-ons while on a bus with a bunch
of strangers is NOT good. Particularly when she HAS a
boyfriend.
Messy handwriting, tendency to sing showtunes offkey, tendency to sing
anything ("Hello my name is Simon, and I like to do drawings") offkey when
drunk, disaster of a love life (*sigh*), No Car (someone had mentioned
transportation), Fudge frosying straight out of the can when stressed, hell,
anytime!, Film Noir, "My life is like an unorchestrated theme," have published
professionally for a newspaper (wait i mean written sorry my eyes are crossing)
and have had poems published, too: my pride and joy.
its the simple things in life i treasure:
music, my computer, my books, my friends, and Rush Limbaugh.
no shit, I'm kidding.
I intend on remaining single as long as possible; however, tehre's this
saxophonist who's looking damn good, so I may slip (I'm sorry Deb! may god
strike us both down!) howver Lorena is a goddess.
Pizza Toppings: Meat. Any kind. Broccoli. (Any kind?!??)Tortellini. (You
have NOT had pizza until youve seen antonio's) Sicilian.
I wear glasses; nearsighted.
Peanut Butter Cup ice cream. Need I say more?
Okay, this is getting ridiculous (procrastinating the pascal program i'm stuck
on, mais oui.)
Kalaria
"Look, sir; droids!"
Skyler Bode
bkra...@unix.amherst.edu (Bitty) writes:
>Music: Don't gag. Classical (Tchaikovsky, Gershwin; most
> Russian and eastern european Romanticcomposers),
I won't gag. Although I tend to like the Germans and Austrians better
(Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Brahms, Schubert), Gershwin is great. Oh, and
Verdi. The only Italian who knew how to make love through music.
>and I'm being corrupted into
>liking Pink Floyd (*thppppppt*)
Heh. Nobody expects the Pink Inquisition!
Strangely enough, I've caught myself liking Tool (unfamiliar? they have 1
video out - 'tis a sick thing - I bought the album on a whim) for its
sheer vengefulness. Like unto hammerblows to the head of the one who betrayed
you.
In contrast, I've also been getting into Glenn Miller - square but funky.
Sigh.
-skyler
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Skyler Bode
>Weight: 200--will be less if I have any say in it!
I know the feeling. I gained over the holidays (why does everybody shovel
food at the kids over the holidays? As if I needed it!).
>Hobbies: Essay writing, bridge, and beer games.
You play bridge?!?!? I haven't played in 5 years... fiending for a game.
>Y'know, this _is_ fun! Hugs to Kalaria and whoever started this in
>the first place.
It was Muffy. She posted an introduction she had used on another service
(as an example to Gretch on 'proper introduction to soc.bi') and I thought
it looked like fun.
Muffy Barkocy
In article <1994Jan24.0...@selway.umt.edu> da...@selway.umt.edu (Lt. Commander Data) writes:
>>Y'know, this _is_ fun! Hugs to Kalaria and whoever started this in
>>the first place.
>been told this. Perhaps a special thanks to her for
>time/patience/permisssion/et cetera...
*laugh*. Thanks! Well, I don't know if I originated the format in this
world, but I originated it for my intro on the BISEXU-L mailing list,
and then posted an old version of it here as an example. Now that it's
getting so popular, here's the updated version:
age: 28
sex: female
orientation: bisexual (discovered about 8 years ago, but I have a
strong feeling I've always been that way, just didn't know
enough nice women to discover an attraction)
relationship preference: polyamorous
height: 5'8"
weight: 115 lbs
hair: short, straight, brown
eyes: beautiful blue (so I'm told...*grin*)
skin: very pale, with freckles (courtesy of a redheaded mother)
siblings: one brother
parents: one mother (raised by just my mother)
cats: four (Death, Chloe, Flame, Bright)
current relationships: in love with one man, falling in love with one
woman, one male lover on hold, love several other
people of both sexes, lusting after a couple of each
degree: BS in CS, 1987, SFSU
favorite programming language: LISP
programming area: user interfaces
current job: Q/A for Informix
shoe size: 9 narrow
bra size: 36 B, but don't have to wear 'em...yay!
waist: 24
hips: 35
clothes: generally black, jeans and t-shirts, away from home. generally
none, at home.
sexual interests: giving or receiving oral, anal, vaginal; bondage-lite
(hoping for a female lover to wrestle with - the one
who said she would dumped me before we got around to
it); biting; pouring oil on the other person and
sliding around; probably lots of other things...*smile*.
public sex: too shy
PDAs: lots and lots
group sex: only with three, so far
hat size: unknown
interests: cooking, philosophy, dancing, puzzles, board games, word
games
hot tubs: definitely! we have to get one installed!
bed preference: waterbeds
favorite color: black (purple, for those who don't think black is a
color)
marital status: divorced the same day I was married, Halloween
sexual relationships: approx. 27 men (I lost count, but it was close to
my age), 4 women (this may go up soon! yay!)
jewelry: mostly silver; new hematite necklace from extraordinary person
jacket: leather (but "very femme," as my friends say...*grin*)
places lived: (born in) Suffern, NY; New Brunswick, NJ; Richmond, VA;
Milford, CT; Cromwell, CT; Killingworth, CT; Waverly, VA;
Richmond, VA; San Francisco, CA; Oakland, CA; San
Francisco, CA (and I'm *not* leaving!) (see, I'm still here!)
music: Bruce Cockburn, Bruce Cockburn, Bruce Cockburn, Billy Bragg,
disappear fear, Al Stewart, Indigo Girls, lots of older rock
and folk rock
dancing: Regency, Contra, and rock (although it still takes me a Long Island
Iced Tea to relax enough to do this latter)
books: lots of SF, lots of mysteries, lots of humor - I own about 3000 books
at the moment; currently on a mystery kick.
TV: Tales of the City, occasional Mystery!, Simpsons with a friend
movies: can't take violence most of the time; mystery, adventure, comedy,
romance
plays: love 'em; particularly fond of farces
opera: kind of long, but some are really impressive
symphony: not my kind of thing, but used to date one of the chorus
art: like it, don't know much about it; fortunately, I now have a resident
art fan (hi, Mike!), so I'm getting more exposure
photography: I should *never* have given my SO that camera for Valentine's
Day...*grin*
plants: black thumb
d
> ... here's the updated version:
> [delicious bio stuff deleted...]
Wow -- you sound perfect! Will you marry me (with mike's permission, of
course)?
-- d
David Aaron Tepper
>In article <1994Jan23....@Princeton.EDU>
> date...@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
>
>>Weight: 200--will be less if I have any say in it!
>
>I know the feeling. I gained over the holidays (why does everybody shovel
>food at the kids over the holidays? As if I needed it!).
The problem's not the holidays. I'm a member of what's called
an "eating club" here, which is kind of a combination social club,
dining hall, and study center, but is not a fraternity. Make
sense? Anyway, our chef makes really _great_ Greek food, and
besides that they leave food in the pantry for nibbles.
I'm actually starting to wish I did cook for myself. I'm so
bad at it and hate doing it so much that I'd lose weight fast
that way.
>>Hobbies: Essay writing, bridge, and beer games.
>
>You play bridge?!?!? I haven't played in 5 years... fiending for a game.
Sure... if you don't mind going down often.
>>Y'know, this _is_ fun! Hugs to Kalaria and whoever started this in
>>the first place.
>
>It was Muffy. She posted an introduction she had used on another service
>(as an example to Gretch on 'proper introduction to soc.bi') and I thought
>it looked like fun.
Good. You can be the next to post an introduction.
Dave--having sweaty lace-up-shirt dreams
--
Skyler Bode
>In article <2i0o9u$o...@panix2.panix.com> sky...@panix.com (Skyler Bode) writes:
[stuff about gaining and losing weight]
>I'm actually starting to wish I did cook for myself. I'm so
>bad at it and hate doing it so much that I'd lose weight fast
>that way.
Doesn't work for me... I'm not a bad enough cook.
>>You play bridge?!?!? I haven't played in 5 years... fiending for a game.
>
>Sure... if you don't mind going down often.
Not a problem... I'm very rusty at it myself (or was that another flirt?)
"Bridge players do it in rubbers"
>Good. You can be the next to post an introduction.
I did, silly! I don't remember the message number though...
Tom Jobes
age: 29
sex: male
orientation: bisexual, after wondering since puberty about being gay
height: 5'11"
weight: 140 lbs
hair: long blond, straight, with beard
eyes: usually blue, unless wearing grey or bright green, I think
siblings: one sister, 31
parents: a budding Episcopal priest, 57, and a philosophy professor, 58
cats: Teddy and Pedro
living situation: co-ops since fall 1988. Current one has seven members.
current relationship: living with and in love with one woman in an open
relationship
shoe size: 10.5
bra size: depends on what pair of socks I have clean
waist: 30
inseam: 36
clothes: jeans every day, except an occasional skirt (own two) when I
feel like I can get away with it. T-shirts, sweaters, brightly-
colored misc. shirts
sexual relationships: virgin til 22, seven women (only one one-time),
three men (all one-time *pout*)
sexual interests: about everything except pain and power games, at least so
far
outdoor sex: the beach on Chesapeake Bay 30 yards from my great-grandma's
house; the woods surrounding the parking lot of the National
Zoo (never been inside)
group sex: one foursome of two each
hat size: 7 1/4 (why am I the only one to know this?)
favorite colors: blue and purple
jewelry: earrings, and a necklace my mom found on the street that I wear
every day
places lived: Memphis TN (18 years), Boston (2 years), Kodiak AK (18 mos)
Portsmouth/Norfolk VA (2 years), Boston (3 years), San Francisco
(2 1/2 years)
TV: Simpson's a few times a year, maybe (after growing up a tube-junkie)
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Progressive Review
good enough band wagon to hop on.
Name: Ben Edelman (Benj to a few, Benji to one only)
Age: 22, I think.
Sex: physically male, psychically - who the hell knows.
Height: 5'9" or so. Bigger if I dry my hair while hanging
upside down.
Weight: About 120. Yup, I'm a twig.
Hair: Lots, and proud of it. Rather red, although browning
more as the years pass. Down to slightly pat my
shoulders, although I'm due for my biannual cut soon.
Eyes: Two
Clothes: More often than not. If you can get me to wear a tie,
you must be pretty special. Own almost exclusively
jeans (for legwear) but in the market for skirts.
Looking for fashion advice for femmes.
Interests: Most sports, but especially baseball. Praying that the
Yankees will win another before I die. Own many baseball
cards, but haven't done much about that lately. I get
addicted to computer games _real_ easy. Also: poltical
maverickism, underground suburban exploration, and
confrontational activism when I can get out of bed in
the morning.
Relationships: Two serious (motos). Three somewhat less serious (2
motos and 1 motss) None currently (1/24/94)
Sexual Rel.: Four (motos) - not exactly the same four as above.
Amory: Well, now... I still envision a permanent monogamous
relationship in my future, but would be nonmonogamous in
some situations for now.
Group Sex: Haven't met the right group... yet ;)
Education: Princeton undergrad '93
Emplyment: Any offers??????????????????
Music: Depends on the mood. Usually hard rock/metal (Ozzy,
Metallica,... nothing much more thrash than that),
Alternative (Pearl Jam, New Model Army, the Cure -
mostly louder stuff), or classical (Beethoven, Mozart,
Dvorak's 9th is the _best_ piece of music in existence)
Books: Rarely have time. Anything that will make me laugh or
cry.
--ben, wondering if he should be printing all of these out....
Sean Doran
>I believe the basic format/idea originated with Muffy; at least I have
>been told this. Perhaps a special thanks to her for
>time/patience/permisssion/et cetera...
This round of postings can be blamed on Muffy, but the format isn't
exactly either new nor precisely hers.
I remember doing one of these in 1986 (oooh, how old I am), and it
wasn't new even then.
I won't post my own copy, but if you are curious about what kind of
green-skinned 970-year-old alien I am, you can use finger
s...@spectre.uunet.ca (still. go figure). If you can't finger, you
probably don't want to know me anyway. :-)
Sean.
Sean Doran
>Wow -- you sound perfect! Will you marry me (with mike's permission, of
>course)?
I wanna be a bride's maid! I wanna be the flower child!
I wanna kiss the bride! I wanna smooch the groom!
(I wanna smooch Mike too, but only with his permission, of course).
Sean.
Progressive Review
>
>
>
>well I suppose an introduction is in order, here's to outing myself...
>
>age: 25 (on Tuesday the 25th.)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
*SMOOCH*
nibble MUNCH!
spankings available upon request
--ben, also willing to bake cakes.
Progressive Review
> date...@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
>
>>Hobbies: Essay writing, bridge, and beer games.
>
>You play bridge?!?!? I haven't played in 5 years... fiending for a game.
>
>
Well, fiend, I'll happily make 3. Any fourths out there?
I think a NY bi bridge club would be positively nifty!!!!
--ben
Progressive Review
>>In article <1994Jan23....@Princeton.EDU>
>> date...@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
>>
>
>>>Hobbies: Essay writing, bridge, and beer games.
>>
>>You play bridge?!?!? I haven't played in 5 years... fiending for a game.
>
>Sure... if you don't mind going down often.
>
Or is that the punishment for the loser?
(or the reward for the winner????)
--ben, wondering what he can come up with about the phrase "winning the
rubber"
Bethan Davies
..... I hope....... but I was bored with preparing a tutorial (on phonology
- bleagh!) for tomorrow.....
age: 24 (and a medium-sized bit)
sex: female
orientation: bisexual (too many peoples' fault to list here :-)
politics: mostly socialism, with green tinges and some individual quirks
height: 5'
weight: 9 stone
hair: terribly girly bob with shaved bit at the back (I *love* having my
neck shaved :-)
eyes: grey/green/blue (depending...)
skin: pale
siblings: one brother (sad bastard - he lives in Cambridge & _likes_ it!!!)
one sister (wonderful - person I'm closest to in the world)
parents: 2, old-fashioned, but they try.....
cats: none..... *SNIFF*
pretentiousness: wouldn't know how to be......
sense of humour: evil and twisted..... very sarky on occasion
tickle status: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
current relationship: none (bah, humbug...)
past relationships: 2 serious, one reasonably serious, all with motos.
Just about getting over the last one..... (hey, its
only 18 months since we split, after all :-( )
Strong believer in remaining friends with exes...
relationship prefs: dunno, can't seem to cope with the concept of *one*
partner at the moment, let alone more......!
group sex: a couple of times....... fun! But more occasional than regular
current location: Edinburgh (yippee!)
soc.bi parties: Been there, done that, got the photos :-)
degrees: Just don't mention the thesis!!!!!!!
favourite programming language: They're ALL HORRIBLE!!!!!
current job: being a postgrad (recovering workaholic)
favourite cities: Edinburgh, Cardiff
shoe size: 5
waist: don't know, don't care....
clothes: leggings, jeans, T shirts & jumpers - the latter of which are
*always* baggy! Lots of colourful clothes too (though more
subdued than Dave's :-)
Oh, yes, and *LYCRA* anything!!!
colours: green, purple, black, blue.....
hugs: _very_ huggy!!!!
interests: many and varied.... but include cycling, fiddle playing, reading
music, talking to folk, cuddling folk (:-), good beer/wine/whisky
(in small quantities... and not mixed), cloud-watching, thinking....
favourite musicians: diverse tastes..... REM, Levellers, Waterboys, Joan
Armatrading, kd lang, Annie Lennox, Kirsty McColl,
TMBG, Bach string quartets, Nyman, Balanescu, Elvis
Costello, Blue Aeroplanes, Dylan(early stuff), vivaldi,
Thomas Tallis..... oh, and all sorts of other stuff
favourite authors: Jane Gardam, Margaret Attwood, Graham Swift, EM Forster,
Austen, Hardy, Marge Piercy....... and poetry....
Wendy Cope, Keats, Marge Piercy (again...), Roger
McGough, Philip Larkin (even if he was a rather sad person),
and lots of individual poems.
ambition: to be happy, and live my own life...
modes of transport: bicycle(s), bus, train
sexual relationships: not enough women..... but I'm working on it...
jacket: green fleece thing, denim jacket, or the fluorescent yellow goretex
cycling jacket (my pride and joy.....)
hats: just my cycling helmet
------------------------------
Back to work.... <groan>
Bethan
Skyler Bode
pro...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Progressive Review) writes:
>Well, fiend, I'll happily make 3. Any fourths out there?
>I think a NY bi bridge club would be positively nifty!!!!
Yeah!!! We could call it Bifrost!
(for the mythologically challenged: Bifrost is, in Norse mythology, the
Rainbow >>Bridge<< connecting the world of mortals with the realm of the
gods.)
Any takers for a fourth?
Stephanie Moore-Fuller
Ok, so I couldn't resist....
age: 34
gender: female
orientation: bi, of course (or "Mark-identified lesbian" <giggle>)
height: 5'11"
weight: 260 lbs (actually, I haven't measured the force the earth
goddess pulls on me with in a while)
hair: almost waist length light brown
eyes: pair one are blueish/greenish/hazel, while pair two are clear
plastic, with a rose colored stripe and a blue stripe
siblings: two brothers, both younger -- one has a spouse, three stepsons
and a baby daughter; the other has 5 acres of tangelo trees in Florida
parents: two, who live in Virginia -- mother from Germany, father from
Richmond
cats: one, Balthazar
living situation: live with hubby in rented house in a small town in
Michigan
current relationship: married 11 or 14 years, depending on how you look
at it, been open for the last few years, girlfriend that is kind of on
hold due to complications
shoe size: 10N
bra size: 44DDD
hat size: no idea!
clothes: at work: suit-like pant and jacket outfits (skirted suits and
pantyhose only for interviews or important presentations) leisure:
jeans or shorts and tights or long skirts
sexual relationships: virgin til 20, one man, one woman (see above)
sexual interests: about everything, especially pain and power games,
though I am a novice at them
jewelry: very seldom wear any
places lived: Tucson, Arizona (born), Raphine, Virginia, Annapolis,
Maryland, Santa Clara, California, San Francisco, California, Palo Alto,
California, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Howell, Michigan
degrees: BA liberal arts, St. John's College, MS mechanical
engineering, Stanford University (courses but no degrees at University
of Virginia, San Jose State Univ and San Francisco State Univ
(Muffy, if you're reading this, I think I was there when you
were!))
stephanie
--
I'm only virtually in California -- physically I'm in Michigan.
"... ever noticed that 'what the hell' is always the right decision?"
-- Marilyn Monroe
Wrongway
>In article <1994Jan25.0...@Princeton.EDU>
> pro...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Progressive Review) writes:
>>Well, fiend, I'll happily make 3. Any fourths out there?
>>I think a NY bi bridge club would be positively nifty!!!!
>Yeah!!! We could call it Bifrost!
>(for the mythologically challenged: Bifrost is, in Norse mythology, the
>Rainbow >>Bridge<< connecting the world of mortals with the realm of the
>gods.)
Isn't there a bi organisation out there already somewhere with the
name Bifrost?
>Any takers for a fourth?
I could probably be persuaded to learn...
Rich.
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David
age: 28
sex: male
orientation: bisexual (for about 6 months, although I've known I was
was attracted to both genders for about 10 years)
height: 6'1"
weight: 185 lbs
hair: long (to shoulder blades), brown, slightly curly
facial hair: generally unshaven (too lazy)
eyes: grey, green, or blue, depending on mood and clothing
siblings: brother, age 39, Baptist minister; sister, age 33;
brother, age 21
parents: 2, love'em, but don't really agree with'em
cats: Chunk (18 lbs.) and Tux
dogs: Leto (blue-eyed brown Siberian Husky)
marital status: married (8 years) and enjoying every minute (well,
almost every minute ;-)
children: two daughters, 4 and 1 years old
shoe size: 11
bra size: don't care for them except where necessary
waist: 34
inseam: 35
clothes: none when I can get away with it. Jeans, T-shirts, and boat shoes
when I have to dress
jacket: brown leather (love the smell!)
sexual relationships: just my wife
amory: philosophically poly, behaviorally mono
sexual interests: everything consensual between adult humans (not ruling
out
aliens, just haven't met one I was attracted to yet)
other interests: cooking, reading, snuggling, kung fu, movies, camping
group sex: none *pout* :)
bed preference: definitely waterbeds
hat: brown felt fedora (7 3/8 looooong oval)
favorite colors: red, green, and brown
places lived: Austin, TX (25 years) Burnet, TX (3 months)
Houston, TX (3 1/2 years)
education: BSME from University of Texas-Austin 1990
current job: thermal analysis of international space station
Reading Interests: Sci-fi, science magazines, mythology, soc.bi
(yes, I actually like Heinlein, despite his obvious faults)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars, Blade Runner, Buckaroo Banzai
music: Billy Joel, Eagles, Doobie Brothers, Pink Floyd, Spin Doctors,
soundtrack from _A Clockwork Orange_, Stevie Ray Vaughan,
the Blues Brothers, etc.
TV: Star Trek: TNG, Star Trek: DS9, Northern Exposure, Silk Stalkings
In retrospect, this looks rather boring compared to others. I hope you
didn't find it so.
--
David Leftwich, wishing for a soc.bi party in this region of the country.
leftwich#d#david.ssd-...@ssdgwy.mdc.com
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are."
Ann Burlingham
In a previous article, sou...@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) says:
>the worst is "Oh, I went through THAT PHASE too."
...Which made me just laugh when a co-worker responded to my mentioning
my atheism with "I went through an atheist phase, too."
--
Ann Burlingham
Sears Library Case Western Reserve University toujours gai and
x5200 10900 Euclid Avenue always a lady
ax...@po.cwru.edu Cleveland, Ohio 44106 -don marquis
Randy J. Ray
SF are free to dispute any of the following:
age: 25 (26 on Mar 3rd)
sex: male
orientation: bisexual (but haven't met the right guy yet... *sigh*)
politics: an odd mix of conservatism on issues of foriegn relations and business
and such, liberal on issues of personal freedom, and libertarian on
issues of personal privacy.
height: 6' 3"
weight: 240-ish. I'm currently working off the spare tire that magically
appeared around my middle.
hair: brown and short, with a short mustache and bear, also brown
eyes: very blue
skin: typical for someone whose genetic make-up includes Mexican, Swiss, Irish,
Scottish, and possibly English
siblings: one very red-neck brother
parents: rather not talk about it, was raised instead by fundamentalist
grandparents
sense of humour: *very* sarcastic
tickle status: terribly ticklish
current relationship: none, alas
past relationships: all with motos. only just lately accepting my attraction to
men.
relationship prefs: polyamorous, given the option
group sex: not yet
current location: Denver, CO
soc.bi parties: Been to one great one, forgot to take my camera with me!
degrees: BS from Univ. of Oklahoma. Lots o' BS to be had there...
current job: corporate slave to US West
favourite cities: San Francisco, Boulder
shoe size: big
clothes: lots of silk shirts (you listening, Mike? :-)
colours: blue and black
hugs: available upon request!
interests: history, reading, trying new restaurants
favourite musicians: Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Handel, Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull,
Pink Floyd, ELP, Tori Amos, NIN, Concrete Blonde, lots
more
favourite authors: Neil Gaiman, Douglas Adams, Stephen King, Clive Barker,
Robert Anton Wilson, William Gibson, those who contribute
to the Wild Cards mosaic novels, Alan Moore, Roger Zelazny
ambition: learn to live, love, and do so without bias
sexual relationships: are secondary, but so far have only been with women
pets: one terribly obnoxious cat
pet peeves: people who complain and complain but make no effort to improve
their lives
Randy, missing San Francisco terribly
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Bitty
Hey, is it me, or should someone start keeping track of these only
because I've begun noticing a good deal of common trends? Just a curiosity
thing. Authors, for example. And music. It's just funny; I find myself
agreeing with a lot of people's preferences.
Jes' a thought,
Kalaria, who will never even LOOK at backgammon ever again.
--
Bethany "Bitty" Ramirez | "Someday we'll find it, the Rainbow Connection..."
"And right there the world suddenly got big. And it was a long time before I
could cut it down to where I could handle it." - Troy, _Fences_
"Whatever happened to the dream of Dulcinea?" | "Look, sir: droids!"
Muffy Barkocy
Why do we need Mike's permission? I mean, he's a great guy and all, but
it's not like he has all the right answers about relationships...*grin*
As for marriage...let me think about it...I just got out of one, after
all. What say you to domestic partnership, for now?
Muffy
Muffy Barkocy
Humm...getting married is sounding better all the time! *GRIN* Can I
watch?
Muffy
Sean Doran
>Why do we need Mike's permission? I mean, he's a great guy and all, but
>it's not like he has all the right answers about relationships...*grin*
NFK. <grin> Still, he's cute, he has good taste in people (I really
like all his ex-es I've met, and all his ex-es' ex-es too), so I
suppose if he gave someone a stamp of approval that would be a good
thing.
>As for marriage...let me think about it...I just got out of one, after
>all. What say you to domestic partnership, for now?
It would be extremely silly if he were to refuse.
Sean.
Sean Doran
>Humm...getting married is sounding better all the time! *GRIN* Can I
>watch?
You can watch me filling the ceremonial roles I described.
You can watch me smooch the groom. You can watch me smooch Mike.
Watching me smooch the bride would be, um, awkward, but I'm sure
something could be done with mirrors or videotape or something.
Of course, if any of the above leads to more than smooching, tickets
will be on sale at Ticketron and the box office, but I'm sure I could
arrange a reduced rate for the wedding party, as a present. :-)
Sean.
S.Arro...@ucl.ac.uk
Prefered nickname: Sion. Write it, and everyone will understand. Try
saying it and you'll confuse everyone (including
me). "Simon" is unambiguous and legally
correct.
Age: 23
Sex/gender: Male
Height: 5'11"-ish
Mass: 52kg (don't ask why I use different systems for height & weight!)
Hair: Straight, long, mucky brown (but I'm trying to coax it into being
red). Beard similar (well, not so long).
Hat size: Slightly too small for my Black Hat, just the right size for
my Russian-dissidents furry thing.
Other clothes: Um, let's see. Black fingerless gloves, black sweatshirt,
black T-shirt, black jeans, long black coat. Oh, and a
bright orange scarf and blue and green boots. All this
varies.
Music: Moderately eclectic. Notably Mike Oldfield, Peter Gabriel,
Ozric Tentacles, Michael Nyman.
Books: SF, fantasy. Geoff Ryman, Guy Gavriel Kay, Samuel Delaney, amongst
others.
Other: Playing Mah Jongg, the odd bit of RPG, involuntarily running
SF conventions, sometime 'net addict.
Relationships: Two, both male, both stunningly disastrous, both about
two and a half years ago. Maybe that had something to
do with why they were such a failure....
Amory: Theoretically poly (see above)
Group sex: Hell, give me a chance to try one-to-one sex first! (-8
--
\S
| There's nowt |"And in this moment, I need to be needed
ubc...@ucl.ac.uk | so queer as |"When my self-esteem is sinking,
| folk.... |"I like to be liked" -- Peter Gabriel
S.Arro...@ucl.ac.uk
Eyes: off-blue, requiring -5 correction (glasses)
Cats: None, but I share the house with two (Carter and Lonely)
Queen Without A Country
>Muffy Barkocy <mu...@bi.fish.com> wrote:
>> [delicious bio stuff deleted...]
>
>Wow -- you sound perfect! Will you marry me (with mike's permission, of
>course)?
*cough* *splutter* Permission I neither can nor will give, but
encouragement might be nearer the mark ... Perhaps I should cast
myself in the role of local parish priest (although without any
tomfoolery with a choirboy or two after mass) - I could interview
the couple with a view to establishing their Serious Intent and
Compatability. However, after a couple years as the very
cornerstones of an amazing (local and remote) social structure,
you seem well enough bonded to be able to survive the mammoth
stresses caused by tides of crash-space-occupiers (and the
occasional freeloader like myself who won't go away no matter
how much Mike-Be-Gone you put around the back bathroom). As for
commitment, well, you do have your 4 (count 'em, 4) cats to
consider. No-one with a heart could possibly put such gorgeous
creatures through the pain and heartache of separation. So
I guess my priestly concerns call all be easily dispelled.
That only leaves the question of why the hell you would want
to screw with your taxes by getting married again.
Mike, who hates posting when he's not caught up, but has only
worked soc.bi down to half the size it was after a weekend away.
--
Mike Lloyd, retro-hippy, | "People will tell you where they've gone, they'll
music nut, bi, and | tell you where to go, but 'till you get there
backrubber of devotion | yourself you never really know" - Joni Mitchell
--* The end of confusion is the beginning of death *--
Queen Without A Country
Egad! I think I'm being out-queened! Well, honeybunch, *my*
satin dress will look nicer than *your* satin dress, so :-p
'Course you can smooch me, dear heart. You just have to catch
me at the right moment. I'm still kinda defensive with men, but
I have at times been gotten around.
Mike, not so much a tired yawn as a rotting mouth (don't ask)
Ralph Becket
>siblings: one brother (sad bastard - he lives in Cambridge & _likes_ it!!!)
|
HEY! Watch out for a visit from the Cambridge
soc.bi Anti-Uncoolness Stormtroopers =o)
>cats: none..... *SNIFF*
^^^^
Ah - this explains much!
R
Stephanie Moore-Fuller
>
>
> Hey, is it me, or should someone start keeping track of these only
>because I've begun noticing a good deal of common trends? Just a curiosity
>thing. Authors, for example. And music. It's just funny; I find myself
Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention authors, and I noticed that you (it was
you, wasn't it?) like Margaret Atwood. She is terrific! Got the
latest, The Robber Bride, for Christmas, and it is really good. Goes
down easy, yet there's a lot to think about, as usual with her....
Ann Burlingham
In a previous article, tom...@netcom.com (Tom Jobes) says:
>hat size: 7 1/4 (why am I the only one to know this?)
Because women's hats and many men's hat are cheaply-made one-size-fits-all
things, these days. I used to know my hat size, I think it was the same as
yours. That, or 7 3/4. I wonder where I found that chart which told me how
to measure this...?
Matthew J Brown
> In <2i3rs7$c...@panix2.panix.com> sky...@panix.com (Skyler Bode)
> writes:
>> Yeah!!! We could call it Bifrost!
>> (for the mythologically challenged: Bifrost is, in Norse mythology,
>> the Rainbow >>Bridge<< connecting the world of mortals with the
>> realm of the gods.)
> Isn't there a bi organisation out there already somewhere with the
> name Bifrost?
The UK bisexual magazine is called Bifrost.
-Morven [avoiding The Project]
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Kay Dekker
>In article <1994Jan25.0...@Princeton.EDU>
> pro...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Progressive Review) writes:
>>Well, fiend, I'll happily make 3. Any fourths out there?
>>I think a NY bi bridge club would be positively nifty!!!!
>Yeah!!! We could call it Bifrost!
Ahem. I'm afraid that name's already been taken: it's the name of the
most (OK, I'm prejudiced) excellent bisexual monthly magazine in the
world.
Kay
--
Kay Dekker - the Vestigial Virgin of soc.bi
"Dead men may tell no tales, but they do sing indistinct songs."
Bitty
> In article <2i4mpq$n...@amhux3.amherst.edu> bkra...@unix.amherst.edu (Bitty) writes:
> >
> >
> > Hey, is it me, or should someone start keeping track of these only
> >because I've begun noticing a good deal of common trends? Just a curiosity
> >thing. Authors, for example. And music. It's just funny; I find myself
> Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention authors, and I noticed that you (it was
> you, wasn't it?) like Margaret Atwood. She is terrific! Got the
> latest, The Robber Bride, for Christmas, and it is really good. Goes
> down easy, yet there's a lot to think about, as usual with her....
wasnt me, but i _do_ like atwood.
kalaria
"You ENJOY being a pervert, don't you?!?!?"
Robert D Dawson
Fuck! Let's try it again. The two things to remember:
1. MB=MC
2. It's either a tangent or an intersection
Thought you might want to write that down, so you have it at all times.
robert.tempted.
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There are two things you need to remember to succeed in life:
Robert D Dawson
robert.tempted
Robert D Dawson
Thought I would de-lurk, as it were. Just another coming out I suppose.
Name: Robert Dawson
Age: 22
Living in Newmarket, New Hampshire
Going to school. Trying for an MS in Resource Economics. Already have a
BA in econ from the U of Washington, in Seattle.
Physical bits and pieces:
5' 7" i think
185-190 lbs (lot of sitting behind the desk last semester)
eyes usually kinda greenish/hazel sometimes gold when the clothes weather
etc are just right.
short nondescript brown hair
Previous relations: last one was a woman before that a man before that a
bunch of women
known for a while just haven't admitted it until a little while ago
Music: New Order, the Beloved, Matthew Sweet, Barry Manilow, 808 State,
Meat Beat Manifesto, Suede
Books: texts mostly environmental econ stuff. No time for much of
anything else. But if the opportunity presents itself: fantasy, and
anything by Umberto Eco (The Name of the Rose, Foucault's Pendulum, The
Limits of Interpretation).
Rather fond of those Merchant/Ivory productions like Howard's End.
What else can I think of: love earrings, want a tattoo, mountain biking,
buying Jansport backpacks (got seven of em--they're virtually free since
my sis works for them). I could kill from some chinese food right now.
Actually all fo the time.
Oh Yeah,
family: Mom knows, Dad doesn't--mostly nice people if a little on the
conservative side. Sisters: two Cindy 27 Jenny 26. Best friend: Jen 22
(on Feb 24th) straight but I still love her
AND a big thanks for everyone being such huge smart-asses. I get nothing
but joy out of reading this group. A nice break from finding out that
once again my friends are too lazy to send me any mail.
I feel like I should have a big ole picture of myself on this.
robert.tempted.
1. MB=MC
2. It's either a tangent or an intersection.
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Love is the cure for every evil
Love is the air that supports the eagle...
And it belongs to everyone of us.
It's called love,
And it cuts your life like a broken knife.
"Thieves Like Us" --New Order
Robert D Dawson
Here we go:
Wrongway
>man that damn editor just cut off my .sig
>Here we go:
You really, _really_ don't need to post just your signature if it
wasn't included in a post. Please don't do this.
Not only is your signature being included more than once, it's
_18_lines_ even if posted once! Common net.courtesy says to keep your
sig down to 4 lines or so. Remember that some people pay for
newsfeeds by the byte.
Rich.
[Mailed and posted]
Wrongway
> Hey, is it me, or should someone start keeping track of these only
>because I've begun noticing a good deal of common trends? Just a curiosity
>thing. Authors, for example. And music. It's just funny; I find myself
>agreeing with a lot of people's preferences.
I've been saving all of them (I think I caught them all). A site (ftp
or other) to archive them might be nice. Anyone have a machine they
could offer up?
Rich.
Wrongway
>Thought I would de-lurk, as it were. Just another coming out I suppose.
Welcome!
ObFluff: *hug*
[...]
>Music: New Order, the Beloved, Matthew Sweet, Barry Manilow, 808 State,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Meat Beat Manifesto, Suede
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you play one after the other, does your stereo melt?
Rich MBM fan (not crazy about their latest dtuff, though. Loved 99%.
Olaf Seibert
Name: Olaf Seibert.
Age: 26 years, until 24 may.
Sex: Why not?
Sex: Oh yeah, male.
Length: 1,75 m.
Mass: 55 kg.
Hair on top of head: Reaches at least 3/4 down my back; dark blond, i.e.
almost brown.
Hair on bottom of head: Full beard, varies from trimmed short to just
a few cm long. Moustache: mostly kept short. All this due
to a resolution not to shave, ever.
Theoretical Orientation: Bi, since soon after soc.bi was created, which was
22 october 1991. Before that I didn't really orient at all,
except perhaps as not-the-same-as-everybody-else, and I
still do, in general.
Practice and Experience: So far I only have physical experience with motss,
even though I tend to fall in love with motos more (but
still not often).
Eyes: Blue/grey.
Skin: I like to get tanned in the sun but computers have too
short cords. That doesn't keep me inside, though.
Siblings: A sister.
Cats: Almost all our cats at home were called "Poesie" except for
the very first one, "Killie".
Degree: Doctorandus (BSc?) Computer Science.
Favourite Higher Programming Language: C.
Favourite Assembler Language: PDP-11.
Shoe Size: 42 (Dutch system).
Shoes: Each pair is heavier than the previous one.
Shoelaces: One red and one black.
Socks: One black and one red.
Favourite Computer: Amiga.
Favourite non-Amiga Operating System: BSD Unix.
Clothes: Jeans, shabby tshirts and sweaters. Usually in a few
layers because I'm cold otherwise. When without, I really
love the feeling of my hair on my back.
Swimming: Preferably on clothing-optional beaches,
not on textile beaches.
Sexual Interests: Most of the things I've already done, and many things
I haven't done yet.
PDAs: Too shy to initiate: I need some initiative.
Miscellaneous Interests: reading (mostly but not exclusively Fantasy and SF)
Gamy: Undetermined yet; No theoretical reservations against poly-.
Group Sex: None so far.
Hat Size: I really should try for some black hat...
Politics: Left of center; I would say Anarchist if I knew what it meant.
Freckles: None. Birthmarks are simply not a substitute.
Bisexual Conferences: Norwich, Nottingham.
Soc.Bi Parties: Edinburgh, Cambridge.
Silly Far-Away Birthday Parties: Edinburgh.
Other Silly Far-Away Meetings With People From The Net: Paris, The End of The
Universe (i.e. Lelystad).
Current Job: Programmer for "Polderland Language & Speech Technology".
Places Lived: Hoofddorp .nl (born), Amsterdam, Venray, Merselo,
Nijmegen (current).
Music: Varied, includes loud guitars.
Slut: Not enough.
Transport: Racing bike; I can't cycle slowly anyway. No driving license.
Dating: I don't like this word, it sounds so artificial.
Relationships: None so far.
Sport: Don't like it, especially team sports or involving
dangerously moving balls.
Energy: I've been told I'm soooo relaxed... but not always.
Nickname: Rhialto the Marvellous.
Alcohol: No bear please, just strong liquor, unadulterated.
Preferably rum or a good vodka. British pubs taught me
to appreciate cider.
--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert D787B44DFC896063 4CBB95A5BD1DAA96
\X/ I can bicycle on both sides of the road - rhi...@mbfys.kun.nl
Ciaran McHale
In <2i7d46$f...@mozz.unh.edu> r...@kepler.unh.edu (Robert D Dawson) writes:
>man that damn editor just cut off my .sig
It was probably the news posting software that did it. The "nn"
newsreader will truncate .sigs to 4 lines; the software you are using
apparently truncates it to 8 lines. Don't be too annoyed that the
software is truncating your .signature; rather take it as a hint that
you ought to shorten it yourself :-)
By the way, "Netiquette" guidelines are regularly posted to one of the
following two newsgroups (I forget which):
news.newusers.questions
news.announce.newusers
(They should also be cross-posted to news.answers.) If you haven't done
so already then I suggest you read these netiquette guidelines. They
are written in a humorously sarcastic manner and so can be quite fun to
read. Of course, they also contain some useful advice such as that you
should keep .signatures to 4 lines or less.
Please don't take the above as a flame. Just a gentle pointer in the
right direction. Anyway, welome to soc.bi.
<> After tea, Mrs R____ gave an amusing talk, with slides, on Baboo, her
<> pet baboon. She said that although some people were scared by such a
<> large animal, she felt completely at home with him, having spent over 15
<> years in Africa with her husband.
<> --- From a club newsletter
Ciaran
--
---- Ciaran McHale (cjmc...@dsg.cs.tcd.ie)
\bi/ Dist. Systems Group, Department of Computer Science, Trinity College,
\/ Dublin 2, Ireland. Telephone: +353-1-7021539 FAX: +353-1-6772204
Charles Stross
Sure I've been posting on soc.bi more frequently since last year,
but I don't think I ever de-muffined formally ..
age: 29
sex: male
orientation: bisexual (never had a solid, working, long-term
relationship with a male, though -- only a headfuck one)
politics: cryptoanarchist meets anarchosyndicalism with dose
of Euro-style social democracy and heavy human-rights
concern. Cynical with it. You don't want to know any
more.)
height: 5'9"
weight: too much, by about 10%. A sore point.
hair: black, curly, and fine; as long as it gets without falling
out (i.e. looks collar-length, actually much longer). Also:
beard, moustache with tinge of red (does this make me a
red-head? ;-)
eyes: mud-brown (more than one SO says they look like a dog's)
skin: geek-white in winter, turning golden-brown on exposure to
sunlight
siblings: two (elder bro, elder sis)
parents: two (one male and one female, oddly enough: old,
eccentric, jewish intellectuals, caught between a very
constricting social background and their own innate
oddness)
sense of humour: warped, verging on surreal
religion: atheist, with occasional forays into Discordianism
tickle status: ticklish, especially when tired or aroused
current relationship: was in the [well-advanced] process of falling
for a possible Mr Right when I was seized upon by a crimson-
dreadlocked vegan hacker-archaeologist bisexual leather dyke.
Still reeling with sock and can't believe my luck -- close to a
year later.
past relationships: 5 < n < 10 : both main genders represented equally.
relationship prefs: all living, loving sentient entities considered.
group sex: one menage-a-trois, some years ago. Didn't pan out.
current location: Watford, England
soc.bi parties: Naah -- but was at BiCon a few years ago, and
hope to be there again this year.
degrees: in drug dealing and hacking (BSc in Pharmacy, MSc in
comp. sci.). Want to go back and do another one of these years.
current job: writing manuals for virtual machines; writing
articles for magazines; writing book for publisher. Words,
words, words, I charge by the word.
favourite cities: Santa Cruz, Berkeley, Leeds (come from the
latter, look like a refugee from either of the former).
shoe size: 9
clothes: T-shirts with warped logos. Tie-dyed jeans. Leather. Loud
earrings.
colours: black and rainbow
hugs: optional
interests: messing around with babbage engines; reading & writing
SF; real ale; usenet; odd music; strange things in general.
favourite musicians: Xymox, the Tansads, Ministry, Banshees,
Clash, Sex Pistols, NIN, Laibach, Consolidated, Cassandra
Complex, loadsofothers
favourite authors: you don't want to know (but Pynchon is up
there somewhere)
ambition: to be held up to subsequent generations as a horrible
example (thus ensuring that thousands follow in my
footsteps :). Failing that, to be a full-time novelist.
sexual relationships: depraved, debauched, but less important to
me now than when I was a teenager (and not getting any)
pets: the evil, wonderful Kombat Kitten, on semi-permanent loan
to my sister
pet peeves: see alt.peeves (keeper of the unofficial FAQ).
-- Charlie
--
Charlie Stross -- char...@sco.com
Kay Dekker
Name: Kay Dekker.
Address: 37 Old Winnings Rd, Keresley Village, Coventry, UK.
Phone: +44 203 337865 (answerphone always on).
Work Phone: +44 203 838522
Work Fax: +44 203 838667
Shadowfax: Odin's horse.
Age: Ancient. "A Rose-red Cutie Half as Old as Time". 34.xxx
Birthday: 15th September.
Relevant Astrological Detail: Libra rising, moon in Aquarius.
Sex: Somatically male.
Length: 1.87 m.
Mass: 80ish kg. Haven't measured in ages.
Time: Little. Cyclical. First as tragedy, then as farce.
Hair on top of head: Usually short, usually dark brown.
Hair on bottom of head: Stubble.
Theoretical Orientation: The original Kinsey Pi.
Practice and Experience: Non mi ricordo. Plenty, anyway. Somewhere
around the hundred but hey, who's counting?
Eyes: Blue/grey/icy/predatory/kind/gentle/stern/tender.
Skin: Pale, going deep brown with a little sun. The best
result of the Spanish conquest of the Netherlands that
I can think of.
Siblings: A sister, Sue, younger, married with daughter, also
net-connected (Anyone want my seester's email address?)
Degree: Who needs one when you're a genius? A PhD someday,
when I get around to it.
Most-used Higher Programming Language: Real (ie K&R) C.
Favourite HPL: Howard Philips Lovecraft.
Favourite Assembler Language: PDP-11. Lisp.
Favourite foods: (i) Lasagna.
(ii) Coffee and doughnuts.
(iii) The guy in the Levi adverts.
Favourite positions: (i) White to mate in three.
(ii) Skepticism.
(iii) Upside-down.
Favourite places: (i) Bed.
(ii) Other people's beds.
(iii) Armpits.
Shoe Size: 8(UK). Ish. On a good day, both my feet are the same size.
Shoes: Black trainers. Cheap.
Shoelaces: Black. Cheap.
Socks: That's a cat, isn't it?
Bed: Warm, soft and shareable.
Body: Not bad considering the usage it's had.
Brain: Size of a planetoid.
Favourite Computer: Slab, my Indigo2 Extreme.
Favourite non-UNIX Operating System: Bwahahaha. Oh, OK, TOPS-10.
Clothes: Jeans, shabby tshirts and sweaters. Skin.
Swimming: Only in the Algarve. It's warm enough, and not chlorinated.
Chlorinated pools make my eyes melt and run down my cheeks.
Sexual Interests: I'm not a tart, I'm not, I'm not. OK, I am. I *like*
sex. Suggest something to me and I'll rarely say "But I
don't do..."
PDAs: Notorious for them.
Gamy: Only when I haven't bathed for a while...
Gamy: Oh, I see. Nonmono.
Group Sex: Groups of 3 to approx 50 (it was dark...)
Hat Size: Don't wear hats. Or ties. Or shirts. Or spats.
Politics: Cynical.
Freckles: Don't I wish...
Bisexual Conferences: Edinburgh, London, Coventry, Edinburgh, London,
London (international), Norwich, Nottingham.
Soc.Bi Parties: Edinburgh, Cambridge, Piglet Party II
Other Silly Far-Away Meetings With People From The Net: Delft, Delaware,
Atlanta, North Carolina.
Current Jobs: (i) Researching Virtual Reality for CAD.
(ii) Keeping the boss happy.
(iii) Massaging my friends' bodies and souls.
Projects on the go: (i) Deixis parsers.
(ii) Stopping IRIX falling over.
(iii) Summoning courage.
Places Lived: Born in York, England; Coventry, Manchester, Wolverhampton,
Coventry, Leamington Spa, Coventry...
Music: Takes too long to explain here. The CD rack by my workstation
has Glass, Reich, Micus, Schnittke, PCO, Ryuichi Sakamoto,
Dylan Thomas, JS Bach, Shriekback, and Monteverdi today.
Slut: Yes. Next question?
Purity Rating: Less than 10% on the 1000-question test.
Transport: Apart from "of Delight", feet and my lover's car.
Dating: Dendrochronology; I'm not old enough for C14 or (heavens)
K-Ar yet.
Relationships: I've had a few. Je ne regrette rien. Currently involved
with Justin, the best man in the world.
Sport: Rugby. Croquet. Snoring.
Nickname: Crisco. The Crisco Kid. Wombat. Mister. Sir.
Alcohol: Elixir Vegetale de la Grande Chartreuse. Port.
Armagnac-and-champagne. Murphy's Stout. Guinness.
Chateau Petrus '61 (I wish).
Other Drugs: Endorphins. Adrenalin. Ibuprofen (for which god be
praised). Nicotine. Caffeine.
Dave Berry
>sense of humour: evil and twisted..... very sarky on occasion
>tickle status: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
an interesting combination... heh heh heh...
>degrees: Just don't mention the thesis!!!!!!!
What thesis?
>favourite programming language: They're ALL HORRIBLE!!!!!
Can you give a formal proof of that? :-)
Dave.
--
Dave Berry, Harlequin Ltd., Barrington Hall, Cambridge, CB2 5RG, UK.
MLWorks is a happy smiling product, and smokes a pipe.
Progressive Review
>
Nevereverever???
Awwww.
Many of my fondest memories include 4 am backgammon games in the co-op
kitchen - drinking backgammon, of course, but not alcohol. Iced tea.
That doubling cube equalled quite a few trips to the bathroom.
We tried drinking boggle. didn't have the same effect.
Matt's burned shorts. Laurie's board. The potato. aaaahhhhhhh.... :}
--ben, reminiscing
Bethan Davies
>bet...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
>>sense of humour: evil and twisted..... very sarky on occasion
>>tickle status: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
>
>an interesting combination... heh heh heh...
Ha! you're at *least* as ticklish as I am......
Last night in the Malt Whisky Society, I had the horrible dilemma of
fighting off an evil tickler, or saving my glass of whisky (ie getting
it to the table *before* getting my revenge.)
The whisky won.....
>>degrees: Just don't mention the thesis!!!!!!!
>
>What thesis?
That's the basic problem :-(
>>favourite programming language: They're ALL HORRIBLE!!!!!
>
>Can you give a formal proof of that? :-)
Computer scientists: can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em..... :-\
Bethan
Randy J. Ray
|> bet...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
|>
|> What thesis?
|>
|> >favourite programming language: They're ALL HORRIBLE!!!!!
|>
|> Can you give a formal proof of that? :-)
|>
I'm sure it will be in her thesis. :-)
Randy
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Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2852
Denver, CO rr...@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com
I am Popeye of Borg. Prepare to be askimilgrated.
Lars P. Fischer
Since everybody else is doing this ......
name: Lars Peter Fischer. Most people call me just Fischer since
Lars is such a common name 'round here.
email: fis...@dina.kvl.dk
date written: Jan 27th '94
age: 30
sex: Male.
nationality: Danish
orientation(1): bi (first motos experience at the age of 13, first motss
experience at the age of 15, always seemed pretty much
the natural thing to me)
orientation(2): polyamorous (yeah, I consider that an orientation)
height: 190 cm (6'2.8" for you non-metric types)
weight: 75 kg (165 lbs)
hair: medium blonde, usually long, currently curlish. Short beard.
eyes: blue
skin: pale
martial status: married to U (female, 28).
kids: none (yet)
sieblings: two elder brothers, two elder sisters
parents: divorced 23 years ago after 27 years of marriage. Still very good
friends.
clothes: have to, it's cold around here.
relationships: 4 really serious ones in all (3 motss, 1 motos) over the past
(historical) 15 years, with 3 of those being history. A number of good
friends have been on-and-off lovers over the years, plus
there's been untold numbers of semi-serious lovers, fuck
buddies, and so on. (Yeah, I was a slut back in the late 70s
and early 80s).
relationships: been married to U for 4+ years, been together for 8+ years. I
(present) don't have other relationships at the moment and I haven't
had for a while -- I somehow don't feel like it. That will
surly change, though.
degrees: MScEE (1988). I have a PhD dissertation in limbo somewhere
(don't ask).
jobs: I've worked as a UNIX sysadm, as an X11 developer, as HCI researcher,
and as UNIX consultant.
technical interests: OOPSLA, UNIX networking and security, GUIs,
programming languages.
computer system of choice: NEXTSTEP, SunOS, Linux, BSD 4.3, (in that order)
computer languages of choice: BETA, Objective-C, C++, Perl, tcl/tk, ANSI C
current job: part sysadm, part applied CS research
music: Love it. I grew up on a diet of old Stones and CCR albums, I went all
wild during the punk era, and I've touched on most of everything else
in the time since then. These days my main interests are in modern
jazz and in classical vocal music.
albums: The day the guy in my fav. music store asked if I wanted coffee
while browsing I knew I was spending too much money on albums. I've
been holding back a bit and is currently hoovering around the 2000
album mark. There's Zappa (I'm one of the maniacs with a complete
album collection), Wagner (I have three complete recordings of The
Ring), new Danish jazz, bebop era (Baker, Miles, Diz, Parker, etc),
trad. rock (Stones, Los Lobos, The Band, Ry Cooder, Little Feat),
Dylan, classic lieder (Schubert, Schumann, good ol' Ludwig van),
Keith Jarret, opera, choral music, and lots of other stuff.
performance: I used to play the bass guitar and percussion, but
I didn't have the time to do it well, so I gave up on it.
concerts: jazz often, especially big bands. Choral and orchestral classical
once or twice a month.
dancing: not as much as I'd like to.
TV: none. I used to have one but I never used it so I gave it away.
movies: Once a week at minimum. (somewhat) Recent good ones: Aladdin (3
times), The Piano, Bitter Moon, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Det
forsømte forår (Danish), The Fugitive.
books: Can read, will travel. As a kid I was a real bookworm, doing at least
one book a day. I still read a lot, both novels and science. I'll
read a programming book for pleasure often, and I do a fair amount of
novels, too. Gibson, Tolkien, Johannes V. Jensen, Blixen, Camus, le
Guin, Peter Høegh, Graham Greene, le Carre, Garcia Marques, Lessing.
plays: rarely.
opera: Whenever possible. Wagner festivals make my knees weak (and no,
*don't* get the urge to conquer Poland)
ballet: at times -- U loves it, so does mom.
art: I like to go to the museums, especially for paintings, but I can't
say I know much about it. I *love* Monet.
photography: 12 years ago I played a lot with it, then I put it to
rest, but I've recently started getting real interested again.
pets: nope. Grew up in a downtown apartment complex, lived that kind of
place all my life -- not an environment where you'd have pets.
sports: used to play handball a lot but I injured my knee. I like to
watch soccer.
religion: nope.
irc: Uses "fischer" as nick (no imagination). Usually found on #gblf.
transpotation: bicycle. Subway or bus when I have to. No driving license.
interests: music, science, literature, computing & computers, history,
politics, bicycling.
games: played a lot of chess way back when, played a good deal of MUD
not so long ago, but currently games aren't bery high on my list.
sexual interests: Yes. I like to be dominated in a mild way, I like trying
new things, and I try to use my imagination as much as
possible. It's a rare thing I don't like, and I like to
give as much as to receive.
public sex: not much
group sex: it's been a while, but I used to find it lots of fun.
PDAs: with people I'm very close to, otherwise not. The cold nordic
mentality and all that.
hat size: Big. Very. Whenever I find a real nice hat it's too small. *sigh*
bed pref.: I don't like waterbeds.
jewelry: none. I've been thinking real hard about piercings, but it's not
really something people do over here so I'm kinda worried about
finding someone who knows what they're doing.
places lived: Århus, Aalborg, København (Copenhagen), all in Denmark.
travels: lots in Europe, only been outside Europe a few times. Been
hitchiking in Europe a great deal.
plants: U. has a very green hand. Love 'em.
politics: socialism / anarchism
notes: High mental activety. Mind mind is just about always working on
something. Somewhat paranoid -- it's a very rare thing I trust
someone, but those I trust I will trust with my life. Difficult to
get close to (there's that cold nordic attutude again).
/Lars
--
Lars P. Fischer, fis...@dina.kvl.dk | Nogen gange, så slås vi for noget
Dina KVL, Royal Vet. & Agri. U, DENMARK. | Andre gange, så tvivler vi på'et
Lars P. Fischer
>>>>> "Rich" == Wrongway <rpo...@panix.com> writes:
Rich> I've been saving all of them (I think I caught them all). A
Rich> site (ftp or other) to archive them might be nice. Anyone have
Rich> a machine they could offer up?
I've set one up at
dina.kvl.dk (129.142.149.160)
/pub/bi-folk/descriptions
and I've placed the descriptions I managed to save there.
There's a /incoming directory where anyone can upload files. Note,
though, that uploaded files cannot be downloaded from there (I don't
want to be a crackers info exchange). If you upload stuff, send me
mail and I will move things to appropriate locations.
Individual descriptions for the archive can be mailed to me, too. I
will try to keep up with what is posted here, but I might be away or
have News server problems or whatever.
I've wondered a bit about format of the archive:
1) file names: I've saved some stuff under email name, some under
the name people tend to use here. Should we have a standard?
Email names makes it simple to look someone up.
2) files: right now, I've saved everything people have written,
including News headers and such. Should this be edited out? I
guess we should keep at least the date.
Oh, and I've noted that few people include email address in their
descriptions. Maybe it would be nice to have those?
/Lars
PS: I've created a /pub/bi-folk/pictures too, but I do not have any
pics yet, and I actually don't know if I have the disk space for
it. You might like to go ahead and upload not-too-big pics (JPEG
preferred to GIF, I guess) and I'll see how bad it gets.
PPS: this stuff should really have a WWW of Gopher server. I might
actually set one up, but I don't have the time right now.
Real Soon Now (TM).
Tom Jobes
: Shadowfax: Odin's horse.
^^^^
And don't forget, Gandalf's horse!
Tomcat
Queen Without A Country
[a bio]
Bethan! Glad to have you back! Missed you. Have a huge *hug*.
>soc.bi parties: Been there, done that, got the photos :-)
Me too. I was just reunited with the photos of that business at the
Pear Tree many moons ago; I'd left them with Piglet for safe-keeping.
There's a glorious one of you assaulting Dave Berry's midriff, while
Tanaqui looks on. (Has Tanaqui disappeared? I'd love to see her
back too.)
Mike, handing out soc.bi e-zimmer-frames quite arbitrarily
--
Mike Lloyd, retro-hippy, | "Time itself fell beaten and confused under the
music nut, bi, and | spell of his fabulous flashing fingers"
backrubber of devotion | -- Mike Scott, in a dream about Jimi Hendrix
Kathleen O'Bryan
<CK44...@freenet.carleton.ca>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Okay, okay...I decided to break down and do it...
name: Kathleen, or Kat. A friend used to call me
cat-head.
age: 23, on Feb 2
height: 5'8"
weight: 140 (130 is my perfect weight)
hair: short, bleached platinum blonde
eyes: grey
skin: pale
relationship: with MOTOS for 1.3 years. monogamous, but seriously
reconsidering. Had 1 other serious, WAAAAAY too
many non-serious to remember. 1 woman (I hope to
work on this)
music: girl punk! (i.e. 7 year bitch, slits, lunachicks,
etc.) tom waits! ween, velvet underground, billie
holiday, shonen knife. + lots more!
interests: veg-ism, computer (duh), politics, (not like I
want to be a politician or anything...just like
learning about the shitty things they do),
feminism, activism, desktop publishing + lots more!
piercings: a few on ears...and NIPPLES!
eye-catchers: used to be long hair until I started going to a
school crawling with hippies. big pretty eyes
anyone M or F who resembles Johnny Depp.
skool: studying political economy, social change, women
in labor force. (espec. unions) LAST YEAR thank
gawd.
residence: teeny studio apartment in soggy Olympia, WA.
hoping to relocate to SF in June when I graduate.
ailments: carpal tunnel syndrome, yeast, sleepyhead.
favorite drinks: lately, sloe gin fizz! gin & tonic, good merlot
tattoos: a very very intricate black upside down (about 4
inches long) triangle with tiny Celtic knotwork.
In the middle of the triangle are 2 women. one
right-side up, one upside down. their hands meet
in the middle. has been described by my SO as
"homoerotic" homo, yes. not terribly erotic.
things i hate: bigots, mean dykes, getting my ass pinched,
the grateful (when they're) dead, bad coffee,
alarm clock, the bus, the smell of meat,
being poor, capitalism. + lots more!
gee, thats about all i can think of now. :) seeya! -kat
Relaxed awareness
I hope you don't mind me being here)
age: 26
sex: male
nationality: Scottish/British
orientation: on-the-way-out gay, maybe eventually bi, one bridge at a time
height: 171 cm, 5'7"
weight: 58 kg, 128 lb
hair: brown, short, on-it's-way-out too
eyes: green
martial status: Aikido, 5th kyu
clothes: umm, let's see, maroon jeans, japanese shirt, islender jumper,
otherwise baggy and bright generally evolving towards understated
and cool
relationships: lots of very nice (if occasionally difficult) platonic ones,
motss generally
degrees: BSc (1989). PhD that what I should be doing right now, last
3 weeks, honestly
unemployment: have been officially for 1.5 yr. Jobplan workshop two
weeks ago. It was really good.
music: ahem, Cud, Cocteau Twins, Bjo"rk, Stereolab, the Associates,
Spritualized, Dr Phibes, Chumbawamba, Pavement, anything indie
with a bit of inventiveness and a decent tune.
I am horribly opinionated nevertheless.
albums: Best of 1993: Bjo"rk 'Debut', Cocteau Twins 'Four-Calendar Cafe'
and the really really brilliant eponymous album by Bob Hund,
which I got in Sweden in December. Bob Hund are utterly wonderful...
concerts: Cocteau Twins and Penguin Cafe Orchestra in Cambridge in February,
anyone?
dancing: out of practice. Bloody thesis.
films: My Own Private Idaho (by a long way), I Hired a Contract Killer,
anything else by Kaurisma"ki, the Company of Strangers, A Short
Film About Love, The Double Life of Veronique, Orlando,
Wings of Desire, you know the sort of thing...
books: currently on Ben Okri's 'The Famished Road', last one was Garcia
Marquez's 'One Hundred Years of Solitude'; always hampered by
Doing Other Things and a tendency to read books in German.
Particularly Peter Handke. And particularly 'Repetition'.
art: Macke, Rothko, Andy Goldsworthy, Fauve stuff, Mondrian, that
fantastic photography exhibition I saw in Stockholm ('Hay on the
Highway'), Scottish Colourists.
photography: Agfa Ambi Sillette, 1950s; penchant for confusing
reflection shots, stupid panoramas, making famous monuments
look silly.
sports: Aikido is not a sport.
religion: Bishop-of-Durham-style Christian with occasional Buddhist
phases
hugs: definitely, promiscuously, motos or motss, no hangups about public
places. Currently somewhat out of practice.
handshakes: when hugs unavailable
transportation: bike, occasionally feet.
languages: obsessive. German pretty good, French workable, Swedish
basic, Italian for buying things. Next up, Spanish, Finnish,
Estonian, Polish, Warlpiri, you give me the time and I'll
do it...
hats: faded green Northern Irish cap, will eventually be fashionable
shoes: DMs right now, otherwise trainers
places lived: Dumfries, Edinburgh, London, Cambridge
travels: Australia 5 times (astronomy is a hard life), US twice,
Sweden, Germany, Switzerland. Put me on a continental train
with a dictionary and a destination with coffee and cake
shops and I'm happy...
politics: green
alcohol: 6X, Directors', Hefeweizen
attitude at best: who cares, do it anyway; welcoming and friendly;
forgiving; a little diplomatic subversion is a
good thing; killing people is always wrong;
read the Big Issue and think again about it all;
the internet definitely has its moments.
hmm, I quite enjoyed that....
stay happy
Robert
avi pfeffer
first name: avi
last name: pfeffer, will change it to harif someday
age: 25
sex: male
circumsized? yes
height: 5'8"
weight: 170
hair: wild black and curly
eyes: speckled
relationships: two women, one man
crushes: lots and lots
amory: poly
housing: just moved in with two other hotbibabes -
come to our party saturday night!
music: read it, write it, sing it, love it
composers: haydn, brahms, schoenberg, mahler, britten,
monteverdi, josquin, ferneyhough, etc. etc.
pretentious? of course
writers: aldous huxley, bertrand russell
games: diplomacy, bridge, sheshbesh (aka backgammon)
sports: football (aka soccer), baseball, ice hockey, european
or college basketball
favorite teams: manchester united, san francisco giants
places lived: born in manchester, england; london, jerusalem,
santa cruz, berkeley (and i'm not leaving)
what else? shy, until you get me going
--
avi pfeffer a...@postgres.berkeley.edu
a beautiful bisexual from bountiful bohemia
avi pfeffer
Bitty <bkra...@unix.amherst.edu> wrote:
> I am always existing in or around or with Music. Most important thing
>about me. Even if there's no music playing (rare), tehre is music inside my
>head. It never stops; I have actually sufferred overload of music twice;
>another bad thing.
Yes! It's just the same for me. I went through a three year period
where I didn't write anything; but the music didn't stop whizzing
about my head, I just couldn't bring myself to put it down.
> A good thing of late, that helps me know I'm back on the right track:
>I'm creating my own music again.
That's great! Me too. I called up my best friend Bishara who lives
in Nazareth last week. We collaborated on some wonderful stuff, but
never managed to take it anywhere. I invited him to come live here,
and he said he might!
> In my head, on the flute, or whatever, for
>the first time since I "broke up" with my ex-bestfriend, I am hearing MY song
>in my head. I lost track for quite a while.
I know what you mean. When I was studying at the music academy they
got it into my head that there are some thing which are 'interesting'
and some things which aren't, and I spent too much time trying to
write interesting stuff instead of listening to the song in my head.
That's when I ran dry.
> But Ian and I agree: there is nothing without music. O' course, we
>disagree on the music, but... I also associate everyone with a song or melody.
>It's how I "know" somebody.
The best way to get to know me is through my music. Anyone want to
hear the album Bishara and I produced? (shameless plug)
Send me your snail-mail address and I'll mail you a copy.
heather e blair
name: Heather
age: 35
sex: female
orientation: bi
height: 5'4"
weight: 135 lbs
hair: reddish blond and somewhat long (used to be longer but I had a job
interview).
eyes: I say they're grey.
skin: quite pale, few freckles.
clothes: usually boring jeans and sweaters most of the year. In summer I'll
wear dresses.
relationships: 3 live-together relationships in the past, 2 MOTOS, 1 MOTSS.
gamy: undecided. Flunked out of mono, so trying poly.
unemployment: I'm trying to get a job, ok?
music: early and classical. You can drag me to hear your music, and I'll
like it ok, but you'll never convert me.
concerts: Best one I've been to is Alfred Brendel playing the later Shubert
piano Sonatas.
operas: Marriage of Figaro. Lyric. 1987.
dancing: only at UCBU parties. I have dance-o-phobia probably due to being
forced to take tap dance at age 4.
books: Omnivorous reader. "mainstream fiction", occasional genre fiction
(SF, mysteries, and most recently Larry McMurtry), lesbigay fiction,
"great books", mediocre books, lousy books.
sports: Horrible at sports, but I run and do weights.
transportation: feet. too spacey to ride bike in traffic.
hats: yes. Us white folks need 'em in the sun. They get rather battered
and eccentric-looking with use.
shoes: these days Eddie Bauer "duck shoes" with Thinsulite insulation.
politics: straight ticket Independent Voters of Illinois.
drugs: beer, coffee, tea. But pretty conservative about all of them.
pets: one cat, one dog.
What else? I grew up in Arkansas. Yes, I met Bill-n-Hillary.
--
- Heather Blair h4...@midway.uchicago.edu
Chris Burman
> writers: aldous huxley, bertrand russell
RUSSELL??? Come ON! Arrrrgh.... ;-)
(Sorry, just my professional allergies showing through ;-)
((All right, I'll post my own cv -- hang on a sec...))
___
Chris Burman \X/ cbu...@abo.fi
.sig your life
Chris Burman
name: Chris Burman
nicknames: none (or if I have any nicknames they're told behind my
back - dammit, the cheeky bastards! And I thought they
were friends...)
age: 35 years
sex: male
weight: 82-85 EuroUnits
height: 182 EuroUnits
hair: dead rat (used to be sort of golden when I was younger),
short, straight - until I want to grow it longer when it
starts to turn in all the wrong directions and I have to
have it cut again (sigh)
facial hair: seldom (only when I'm too broke to buy shaving foam, or
when I'm too lazy to shave it) - but if I let it grow
for a bit, it's sort of golden
eyes: grey (a particularly BORING grey, too)
complexion: dead fish
general: glasses (round), I think my chin is too weak - and my
nose too big - and eyes too small. Come to think of it,
I probably look like the young Goebbels...
clothes: jeans (with baggy knees), t-shirt, sweater, leather
jacket (very thick, very heavy, very warm - except that
the zipper is broken)
head gear: only when it's below -10C
poisons: beer, cigarettes, coffee, Coke, tuna fish
favourite food: anything (as long as it didn't have less or more than
four legs when it was alive - unless it came from a
can marked "tuna")
living conditions: deplorable (3x4m in the local student ghetto)
work: *argh* don't _remind_ me!
likes: poetry (RS Thomas, Mary Oliver), Victorian literature,
John Ford & Howard Hawks Westerns, Calvin & Hobbes, The
Smiths, Morrissey, Suede, The Smiths. And Morrissey.
dislikes: many, many things - but particularly bureaucrats and
politicians, everybody who is better than I am in any
respect (I told you I had many dislikes), myself, worms,
bugs and heights. In no particular order, naturally.
pets: had a mouse once
orientation: bisexual (accepted myself only last year but this is the
way I've always been)
marital status: divorced (got the world's most luvely daughter, 7 years
- and last time we met she beat me at Dominoes 12 times
in a row)
martial status: a typical victim
martian status: green, bug-eyed, antennas, nose shaped like a vacuum
cleaner
marzipan status: never understood what people see in that stuff
current relationships: none. Recovering from a couple of classic
unrequited love affairs. (Why me!?)
secrets: hate my work (don't tell the boss - nah, he knows), wish
I weren't an Anglophile (caused me a lot of pain - don't
ask), got the hots for [deleted to protect the
innocent], I always cry when I watch the end scene in
Capra's "It's A Wonderful World"
plans: none beyond finishing this
dreams: oh, the usual stuff: to find true love, to publish some
poetry, to write a play, to find something meaningful to
occupy my life with - shit, to _get_ a life, to have a
real home, to get away from everything... (this gets
depressing, better stop here)
Queen Without A Country
>name: Robert (we haven't met before, but this looked like a nice place,
> I hope you don't mind me being here)
Absolutely not, sweetness. Especially given some of your traits
as listed ...
>orientation: on-the-way-out gay, maybe eventually bi, one bridge at a time
Well, by all means take it easy, but do check whether deferring
bi issues is really worthwhile. I can imagine situations where
one bridge at a time is the right approach, but it's not always
that tough to just come out as bi in the first place.
>albums: Best of 1993: Bjo"rk 'Debut'
Yup, enjoyed that one a lot. Haven;'t heard of Bob Hund, but I'll
bear it in mind...
>films: My Own Private Idaho (by a long way), I Hired a Contract Killer,
> anything else by Kaurisma"ki, the Company of Strangers, A Short
> Film About Love, The Double Life of Veronique, Orlando,
> Wings of Desire, you know the sort of thing...
I sure do. From the twisted to the polemical, by way of the
downright odd. A fine, characterful list.
>art: Macke, Rothko, Andy Goldsworthy, Fauve stuff, Mondrian, that
> fantastic photography exhibition I saw in Stockholm ('Hay on the
> Highway'), Scottish Colourists.
Ahah! A colo(u)r junkie! Hale and well met, good sir! Here I sit,
looking around my workstation, and we have: Rothko's "Red, White
and Brown, 1957", O'Keeffe's "Red White and Blue", Mondrian's
"Diamond Painting in Red, Yellow and Blue" and "Composition
with Red, Blue Yellow" and Kandinsky's "Jaune, Rouge, Bleu". Notice
a theme, perhaps? :-) All I need now is a Pollock with a
trichromic title, but as far as I'm aware there ain't one. Can
anyone correct me on that?
I can hardly integrate Goldsworthy into that, much as I would love
to. Perhaps I should do a separate photography wall to the cube;
I already have a Mapplethorpe of Patti Smith that I'm rather fond
of. I'd invite you around for some interior decoration hints,
but you're 8000 miles away ...
>religion: Bishop-of-Durham-style Christian with occasional Buddhist
> phases
Mmm. Been there, never really left. My theologically-inclined
dad sent me a sheaf of articles from Irish and British newspapers
on the traditional Christmastime wrangle between the good ole
Bish Of D and some silly bugger literalist Tory MPs. Enjoyed
it immensely.
>travels: ... Put me on a continental train
> with a dictionary and a destination with coffee and cake
> shops and I'm happy...
Ah, so well I know the feeling.
>hmm, I quite enjoyed that....
So did I. Welcome.
Mike, pleased to see so many unusual and welcome traits in one place.
--
Mike Lloyd, retro-hippy, | "Time itself was beaten and confused and fell
music nut, bi, and | lamblike under the spell of his fabulous flashing
backrubber of devotion | fingers" -- Mike Scott, dreaming about Jimi Hendrix
AardPiglet
>I was just reunited with the photos of that business at the
>Pear Tree many moons ago; I'd left them with Piglet for safe-keeping.
You have to admit, I kept them very safe. (And kept them. And kept
them. And kept them.)
Dilatory Piglet
Richard Kennaway
mine", here's mine:
name: Richard Kennaway
age: thirty-mumble, or see "appearance"
gender (hardware): male
gender (software): male
appearance: see spdcc.com:pub/motss.pix/r/richard_kennaway.jpeg
sexual orientation: bi, gay, or both.
sexual tastes: How can I know what I like until I've tried it?
eyes: dark brown
hair colour: dark brown
hair length: Varies between #1 and #4, both scalp and face.
skin colour: pink in winter, red in summer
freckles: Only on shoulders. I try to encourage them out of the
closet in summer, but they rarely emerge (see skin colour)
height: 5"7'
weight: 125 lb
build: muscular stick insect
hat shape: the baseball cap has not been made that fits me
clothes: t-shirt and jeans; black leather jacket; black lycra shorts,
tights, and anything else in lycra. Leggings, but not in
public (yet).
relationships: Er...not sure if I'm in one or not right now. If so it will
be the first.
ticklishness: 12 on a scale of 0 to 10.
music: Penguin Cafe Orchestra, The Orb, Nine Inch Nails,
Genitorturers (never heard them, just like the name), Enya,
Bach, Reger (organ), Chopin (piano), Steve Reich, anything
if it's played by Iwo Pogorelich, Tangerine Dream,
Bee Gees, Abba, Sisters of Mercy, Adam de la Hale.
art: Giger, Piranesi, Daumier, Pete Lyon, etchings and drawings
of all periods (paint is such a *vulgar* medium), most SF
illustrators (airbrushes are ok).
books: ~1000 fiction out of ~2500 total, of which I've read about
half. Fiction means SF (interpreted broadly) and includes:
Kafka, Borges, Calvino, Hesse, Greg Egan, Delany, Gene Wolfe,
Ian McDonald, Iain Banks, Iain M. Banks, M. John Harrison,
Jack Vance, Geoff Ryman, Christopher Priest, Pat Califia,
Icelandic sagas, the OED.
films: "Like Water for Chocolate", "Investigation of a Citizen
Above Suspicion", "The Ten Commandments" (Kieslowski),
"Last Year at Marienbad", "Spirit of Place", "The Immortal
Story", "Unforgiven".
food: As necessary for health.
drink: water
preferred room temperature: 75F and above.
politics: There's no government like no government.
purity score: Declining, but still embarassingly large.
interests: sex, drugs, guns, tlhInganHol, the Prajnaparamita, extropy,
SF conventions.
non-interests: food, drink, gardening, opera, musical comedy, theatre,
poetry, television, crosswords, EngLit, babies, dogs.
grudging tolerance extended to:
cats.
-- ____
Richard Kennaway __\_ / School of Information Systems
j...@sys.uea.ac.uk \ X/ University of East Anglia
\/ Norwich NR4 7TJ, U.K.
Progressive Review
>interests: sex, drugs, guns, tlhInganHol, the Prajnaparamita, extropy,
Is this Klingon??
--ben, wanting to learn how to speak Klingon sans expectoration.
Progressive Review
tlhInganHol : Klingon :: Espanol : Spanish :: Francais : French etc.
sorry. just caught on :)
--ben, slow today
Purple Tiger
table and everyone has introduced themselves, I thought this would never
end!" You are about to start your presentation, when a Purple Tiger,
slightly out of breath, stumbles into the room and passes out a sheet of
paper to everyone. When he hands you your copy, you look down at to see
a hand scrawled, in crayon no less, bio sheet that reads:
name: Grant Blaha
other name: Purple Tiger (I applied for a SS name change, still waiting)
age: 28. Born Jan 2, 1966 at Canoga Park, CA (34d14'04" N 118d35'50")
Capricorn with Ares Rising. Astrologically, I'm a real beast.
job: programmer, Autodesk Multimedia Technology
fav comp lang: They are slimy evil things that must be beaten into
submission. The only thing you can trust in this world is
asm backed by an errata sheet.
gender: male
family: one younger brother, a mom and a dad implanted with 30K worth
of hardware.
eyes: blue (rgb: 0.1 0.6 0.9)
hair: red/dark blond, shoulder length, short cropped beard, moustache,
light body hair
skin color: light tan from UV lamps
height: 5'6"
weight: 155 lb
build: misomorphic.
measurements: neck 15, shoulders 45, biceps 13, chest 38, waist 32,
inseam 30, shoes 9
clothes: blue, black and purple silk shirts, jeans ripped or loose
fitting, soft lamb skin leather biker jacket, will not be
caught dead wearing "briefs" or "boxers".
jewelry: hematite and silver
sexual orientation: bi, bi, love.
polyamory: the enlightened alternative
relationships: 4 straight, one currently long distant female, desperately
seeking a man.
ticklishness: not even. tickling gives me intense, orgasmic pleasure.
you are forewarned.
music: Beck!!!, They Might Be Giants, Matthew Sweet, Machines of Loving
Grace, Zombies, Kate Bush, Metallica, Ramones, Cure, Enya, XTC,
and The Orb
books: Dan Simmons, Verner Vinge, Ann Rice, Walter Jon Williams, Neal
Stephanson, Amy Tan, and millions of other SciFi writers. I'm
kinda addicted to the genre.
films: Dead Again, all John Woo films, all Tsui Hark films, all Jackie
Chan films, The Princess Bride, and Beauty and the Beast.
food: Thai and Indian
drink: Tequilla (I love the taste so much, I sip it)
politics: Libertarian
religion: FRACTALS
group sex: one woman and one man
variations: bondage and role play
interests: writing, comp art (3D Studio), games (Doom!), and my friends
who are more precious that anything in the world.
Blinking your eyes a couple times, you noticed a headache coming on from
reading the badly scrawled writing. A little miffed, you hand it back
to the tiger saying, "Save a tree bud, put it on email."
Ciao,
PT
--
| Grant Blaha aka Purple Tiger | "My time is a piece of wax, falling on a |
| pti...@crl.com | termite, who's choking on the splinters" |
| | -Beck, "Loser" |
Kay Dekker
>age: 28. Born Jan 2, 1966 at Canoga Park, CA (34d14'04" N 118d35'50")
> Capricorn with Ares Rising. Astrologically, I'm a real beast.
Heh. Just wait until I get home and find my 66 ephemeris :)
>job: programmer, Autodesk Multimedia Technology
Autodesk? Are they still doing VR development? [considers emigration,
will stroke tigers for jobs]
>eyes: blue (rgb: 0.1 0.6 0.9)
I don't believe it! That's the most astounding blue - I just set a
desktop to it - are those values treely ruly accurate?
>relationships: 4 straight, one currently long distant female, desperately
> seeking a man.
Can't reach...
>politics: Libertarian
eep.
>religion: FRACTALS
You worship fractals? you think that the Indwellingness has a nonintegral
Hausdorff dimension? Goodness...
>variations: bondage and role play
"Tighter.... tighter, dammit..."
"Uh, ok... Lessee, I've got Bind Mortal at 63%, will that do?"
"Heh. Roll percentiles."
"Zero-zero; I guess that's a critical?"
"Yup. That'll do handcuffs and nipple-clamps as well as rope."
Egads.
Kay
charless
>mine", here's mine:
>
>name: Richard Kennaway
>age: thirty-mumble, or see "appearance"
Huh?!?!
I'd have sworn nearer to 20. Just goes to show.
>build: muscular stick insect
Now _this_ is just under-selling yourself. Why not use the more
flattering term, 'wiry'?
>food: As necessary for health.
>drink: water
Ah. I suppose this explains everything ...
Bethan Davies
>Bethan Davies <bet...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>[a bio]
>
>Bethan! Glad to have you back! Missed you. Have a huge *hug*.
Oh, I still lurk around. As ever, amount of posting is inversely
proportional to how much work I have to do :-)
*hugs* back!
>>soc.bi parties: Been there, done that, got the photos :-)
>
>Me too. I was just reunited with the photos of that business at the
>Pear Tree many moons ago; I'd left them with Piglet for safe-keeping.
>There's a glorious one of you assaulting Dave Berry's midriff, while
>Tanaqui looks on. (Has Tanaqui disappeared? I'd love to see her
>back too.)
There's some, ah, *interesting* ones of you, with legs at impossible
angles (or was that the irrepressible Don, I forget). I'll have to
go home and check :-)
>Mike, handing out soc.bi e-zimmer-frames quite arbitrarily
Dunno that it'd work very well with the bike :-\
Bethan
Orc
Bethan Davies <bet...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
[to Mike Lloyd]
>There's some, ah, *interesting* ones of you, with legs at impossible
>angles (or was that the irrepressible Don, I forget).
It was Don (ob*pant*)
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david parsons \bi/ o...@pell.com
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