Re: Testing BEFORE sex. Postsex STD tests.
Martin
<don.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
>do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?
>
>Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening...
Looks like you've answered your own question again.
I'm still waiting for you to share your own test results with us.
Presumably you follow the advice you dish out: regular testing and
sharing of results?
>Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available.
We all know there will never be a cure for HIV. Boffins in white
coats can't even find the virus. They gave up looking for it a
quarter of a century ago!
--
<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/>
5,275 days and counting...
John D Salt
poz.co.uk:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:55:44 -0700 (PDT), thezak
> <don.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Post sex STD tests are a strategy
Never mind the tests, I want to know more about this "post sex". I imagine
that a hetero version of it would require both mail and femail, but beyond
that my imagination is bamboozled in its entirety as to what "post sex"
might involve. Or do you mean "post" in the sense of a stanchion or
upright spar? In which case I and my imagination remain firmly in our
former state of embafflement, understanding as we do the idea of sex with
Poles, or sex with proles, but not sex with poles, even on Mayday.
By the way, I understand that the Punctuation Police are being especially
severe about missed-out hyphens this month.
All the best,
John.
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picnic?
-- Bill Bailey
thezak
> Martin <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote innews:1034.1245762052.20090623@hiv-
Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?
Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available
Daisy Ventana
> Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening
You say "a way to keep some sex from happening" as if you
think -that- is some kind of a desirable objective?
Whatever you're promoting, that's not a sales pitch that's
likely to get very far on this newsgroup! (Besides, as far
as I know, sex is usually something that people do on purpose,
so phrasing your comments as if sex is something that just
"happens" unless specific efforts are made to keep it from
happening is likely to be viewed as a disrespectful denial
of agency by some of your readers.)
-dazy v
Piet de Arcilla
> We all know there will never be a cure for HIV. Boffins in white
> coats can't even find the virus. They gave up looking for it a
> quarter of a century ago!
Is a Boffin like a Puffin?
Adam Funk
> Never mind the tests, I want to know more about this "post sex". I imagine
> that a hetero version of it would require both mail and femail, but beyond
> that my imagination is bamboozled in its entirety as to what "post sex"
> might involve. Or do you mean "post" in the sense of a stanchion or
> upright spar? In which case I and my imagination remain firmly in our
> former state of embafflement, understanding as we do the idea of sex with
> Poles, or sex with proles, but not sex with poles, even on Mayday.
It means exchanging raunchy correspondence. It's almost impossible to
get STDs that way (unless you try to re-use the stamp).
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first-rate artists will materially raise the level of dramatic taste
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Otto Bahn
> We all know there will never be a cure for HIV. Boffins in white
> coats can't even find the virus. They gave up looking for it a
> quarter of a century ago!
<
<Is a Boffin like a Puffin?
I'll be boffin' Martha's pufffins.
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Otto Bahn
>> Never mind the tests, I want to know more about this "post sex". I imagine
>> that a hetero version of it would require both mail and femail, but beyond
>> that my imagination is bamboozled in its entirety as to what "post sex"
>> might involve. Or do you mean "post" in the sense of a stanchion or
>> upright spar? In which case I and my imagination remain firmly in our
>> former state of embafflement, understanding as we do the idea of sex with
>> Poles, or sex with proles, but not sex with poles, even on Mayday.
>
>
> It means exchanging raunchy correspondence. It's almost impossible to
> get STDs that way (unless you try to re-use the stamp).
It's technically possible to inhale an STD from her underwear.
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John D Salt
news:cm79h6x...@news.ducksburg.com:
> On 2009-06-23, John D Salt wrote:
>
>> Never mind the tests, I want to know more about this "post sex".
[Snips]
> It means exchanging raunchy correspondence. It's almost impossible to
> get STDs that way (unless you try to re-use the stamp).
That seems incredibly unlikely to me. I can see no reason at all why
state-transition diagrams can't be sent through the post.
I'm not quite sure how one would write a raunchy state-transition diagram,
though. Warnier-Orr diagrams I suppose might be made to be vaguely
suggestive of lacy undergarments if you used sufficient levels of brackets.
Still, I have a strong suspicion that it will take a long time to develop
the market for erotic software specification diagrams.
thezak
Not eating too much is a way to keep overweight from happening.
Some people manage to do that even if they don't have to work
hard to get hungry. It happens naturally, without a single
thought
that you want to get hungry.
If you never eat again you will die. If you never have sex again
you
will not die. I'm wondering which is the stronger impulse?
Doctroid
John D Salt <jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm not quite sure how one would write a raunchy state-transition diagram,
> though.
I'm betting on 35 minutes before someone posts a link.
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bar...@bookpro.com
wrote:
>In article <Xns9C34BFD444F9...@216.196.109.145>,
> John D Salt <jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I'm not quite sure how one would write a raunchy state-transition diagram,
>> though.
>
>I'm betting on 35 minutes before someone posts a link.
IWPTA "before someone posts a kink."
BW
Glenn Knickerbocker
> I'm not quite sure how one would write a raunchy state-transition diagram,
I thought all Feynman diagrams were inherently dirty. They seem to be
subject to the same laws of misunderstanding as Kanji, as well:
�R
thezak
> Martin <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote innews:1034.1245762052.20090623@hiv-
Post sex STD tests are a strategy only if STD tests cure an STD.
Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex. Of
course,
post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
treated, and
the sooner the better. But you can only treat if you've been
tested and
know what you just acquired.
Bryce Utting
> Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex. Of
> course, post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
> treated, and the sooner the better. But you can only treat if
> you've been tested and know what you just acquired.
against my better judgement, I find myself asking: so, what *have* you
just acquired, Don?
butting (best of luck with it)
--
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And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people walkin' in,
singin' a bar of "MIT's AI Lab" and walkin' out? They may think
it's an re-implementation of the window system!
-- Alice's AI Lab
thezak
> We all know there will never be a cure for HIV. Boffins in white
> coats can't even find the virus. They gave up looking for it a
> quarter of a century ago!
>
http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk
> 5,275 days and counting...
Here are some images of a virus that can't even be found,
and which will certainly never be cured
http://www.google.com/search?q=hiv+image
Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?
Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available
David DeLaney
> John D Salt <jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm not quite sure how one would write a raunchy state-transition diagram,
>> though.
>
>I'm betting on 35 minutes before someone posts a link.
Quantum Fetish Mechanics implies that there's now at least two websites
devoted to them, and that the forum regulars of each one hate the forum
regulars of the other one.
Dave
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Lee Rudolph
>Doctroid <doct...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> John D Salt <jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I'm not quite sure how one would write a raunchy state-transition diagram,
>>> though.
>>
>>I'm betting on 35 minutes before someone posts a link.
>
>Quantum Fetish Mechanics implies that there's now at least two websites
>devoted to them, and that the forum regulars of each one hate the forum
>regulars of the other one.
Yes, yes, but how does that address the importance of making people
take STD tests *during* sex?
Lee Rudolph (according to _The Emperor's New Fetishwear_, it's all done
with microtubules anyway)
thezak
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?
Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available
thezak
> Yes, yes, but how does that address the importance of
making people take STD tests *during* sex?
Now that you've done silly, can we move along?
thezak
> thezak <don.sak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex. Of
> > course, post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
> > treated, and the sooner the better. But you can only treat if
> > you've been tested and know what you just acquired.
>
> against my better judgement, I find myself asking: so, what *have* you
> just acquired, Don?
>
> butting (best of luck with it)
>
> And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people walkin' in,
> singin' a bar of "MIT's AI Lab" and walkin' out? They may think
> it's an re-implementation of the window system!
> -- Alice's AI Lab
My first response: that person is feeling quilty for having
broken a safer sex rule. You need to get tested immediately. Let me
know your results. My test results are negative for all tests.
Mark Edwards
It was written:
>> Yes, yes, but how does that address the importance of
>> making people take STD tests *during* sex?
No cluons were harmed when thezak wrote:
>Now that you've done silly, can we move along?
Oh GROSS! Now you want people to take the tests during BOWEL MOVEMENTS?
What is it with you, Don?
Mark Edwards
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Shelly
"Mark Edwards" <Mark-E...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> It was written:
>>> Yes, yes, but how does that address the importance of
>>> making people take STD tests *during* sex?
>
>
> No cluons were harmed when thezak wrote:
>>Now that you've done silly, can we move along?
>
> Oh GROSS! Now you want people to take the tests during BOWEL
> MOVEMENTS?
> What is it with you, Don?
I'm pretty sure his kink is *not* okay. Ew!
--
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Otto Bahn
>> Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex. Of
>> course, post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
>> treated, and the sooner the better. But you can only treat if
>> you've been tested and know what you just acquired.
>
> against my better judgement, I find myself asking: so, what *have* you
> just acquired, Don?
Do you really want to know what goes on the stalls of the
Boston Public Library?
--oTTo--
Doctroid
<dfe52678-1f54-4ebe...@l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
thezak <don.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
But we haven't done silly. Eighteen years now and we've only scratched
the surface!
Adam Funk
> But we haven't done silly. Eighteen years now and we've only scratched
> the surface!
Just two years left of your sentence. Can the monkey play the violin
yet?
--
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Agent Rogersz: "Increase the voltage."
Leila: "What if he's innocent?"
Agent Rogersz: "No one is innocent. Proceed" (Cox 1984)
Martin
<don.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>We all know there will never be a cure for HIV. Boffins in white
>>coats can't even find the virus. They gave up looking for it a
>>quarter of a century ago!
> Here are some images of a virus that can't even be found,
> and which will certainly never be cured
> http://www.google.com/search?q=hiv+image
Amusingly most of those images are little more than cartoons. I've
even published one of my own here:
<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/hiv_picture/>. And, yes, that really is my
blood.
>Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
>do? Give up sex? Have less sex?
I think you've let the cat out the bag. You're another faggot and
nigger hater.
--
<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/>
5,283 days and counting...
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>You say "a way to keep some sex from happening" as if you
>think -that- is some kind of a desirable objective?
Sex leading to disease seems like an undesirable objective to me.
>Whatever you're promoting, that's not a sales pitch that's
>likely to get very far on this newsgroup! (Besides, as far
>as I know, sex is usually something that people do on purpose,
>so phrasing your comments as if sex is something that just
>"happens" unless specific efforts are made to keep it from
>happening is likely to be viewed as a disrespectful denial
>of agency by some of your readers.)
Plenty of people have sex without thinking through its ramifications on many
levels including physical safety, pregnancy and emotions. Many people simply
opt to try and get sexual things going first and ask questions later.
Orlando
Mark Edwards
>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
IFYPFY.
Matthew L. Martin
> No cluons were harmed when Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>> Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>> World Domination later.
>
Damn! That's what I've been doing wrong! No wonder I haven't managed
world domination yet.
Matthew
--
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confess to the Sharon Tate murders." -- Jesse Ventura
Otto Bahn
>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>> Whirled Dominatrix later.
>
> IFYPFY.
IFYIFYPFY
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Rob Wynne
> No cluons were harmed when Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>> World Domination later.
>
> IFYPFY.
>
>
At a guess: "I find your post funny, ya?"
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bar...@bookpro.com
wrote:
>In alt.polyamory Mark Edwards <Mark-E...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>> No cluons were harmed when Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>>> World Domination later.
>>
>> IFYPFY.
>>
>>
>
>At a guess: "I find your post funny, ya?"
JFGI
BW
Otto Bahn
>> No cluons were harmed when Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>>> World Domination later.
>>
>> IFYPFY.
>>
>>
>
> At a guess: "I find your post funny, ya?"
It's a phonetic abbreviation for "iffy piffy".
--oTTo--