NPR Story experiment

[Steve Kelley]

My first attempt to post the NPR story link had the http:// in front of
it. I am posting this to see if perhaps that is what kept it from
showing up.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17558400

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Steve Kelley

[Allan Adler]

Steve Kelley <ske...@proteaninstrument.com> writes:

This and the one without http:// showed up fine.

I heard the npr story. They were talking about Secular Humanists, I think.
The problem, as I see it, is not with religion or lack thereof, but is
inherent in organizations themselves, which tend to breed their own
internal politics.
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Ignorantly,
Allan Adler <a...@zurich.csail.mit.edu>
* Disclaimer: I am a guest and *not* a member of the MIT CSAIL. My actions and
* comments do not reflect in any way on MIT. Also, I am nowhere near Boston.

[Steve Kelley]

Allan Adler wrote:
> Steve Kelley <ske...@proteaninstrument.com> writes:
>
>> My first attempt to post the NPR story link had the http:// in front of
>> it. I am posting this to see if perhaps that is what kept it from
>> showing up.
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17558400
>
> This and the one without http:// showed up fine.

But the one I posted Monday did not. Can't help but wonder why.

>
> I heard the npr story. They were talking about Secular Humanists, I think.
> The problem, as I see it, is not with religion or lack thereof, but is
> inherent in organizations themselves, which tend to breed their own
> internal politics.

I agree but unfortunately we (humans) seem to be wired to need some sort
of spiritual connection. If having secular 'priests' that can lead
discussions etc. and can help people break the bonds of superstition
then I'm all for it. I was a bit disturbed by the hard line position of
some who seemed to thing nothing with a religious reference could be
good. Much of the great music of the Western World is based on Christian
themes. The early great composers all wrote masses and other
compositions in the name of god and/or Jesus. To claim that this music
is not good simply because it is a tribute to the god of Christianity
smacks of fundamentalism.

I like Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" which is not overtly
religious but does contain religious references - "God bless us one and
all." I read it to my children over the holidays. It is good literature
despite the god references.

I also thought that part of the discussion on the NPR story fit well
with the 'escaping the holiday season' discussion thread.

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Steve Kelley

[Jack Hamilton]

Steve Kelley <ske...@proteaninstrument.com> wrote:

>I like Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" which is not overtly
>religious but does contain religious references - "God bless us one and
>all." I read it to my children over the holidays. It is good literature
>despite the god references.

It is hard to imagine Oral Roberts liking A Christmas Carol, given
what it says about his kind.

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<> "There are some upon this earth of yours," returned the Spirit,
<> "who lay claim to know us, and who do their deeds of passion,
<> pride, ill-will, hatred, envy, bigotry, and selfishness in our
<> name, who are as strange to us and all our kith and kin,
<> as if they had never lived. Remember that, and charge their
<> doings on themselves, not us."
<>
<> The Ghost of Christmas Present