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shuko...@gmail.com

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Apr 6, 2013, 6:47:38 PM4/6/13
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Saya tak setuju BI matapelajaran wajib lulus SPM
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Zairi Muhammad

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Apr 6, 2013, 6:56:59 PM4/6/13
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saya pun tk setuju.

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Zairi Muhammad

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Apr 6, 2013, 6:57:23 PM4/6/13
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sepatutnya BI kena wajib dapat A+ utk lulus SPM.

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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:56:59
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Saya tak setuju BI matapelajaran wajib lulus SPM
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Rozy Zakaria

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Apr 6, 2013, 7:18:44 PM4/6/13
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Belajax 11 - 12 thn pon tk gheti2 lagi cakap org putih. Lain la Jah, dia memang anak Putih.

Mohammad Naim Yaakub

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Apr 6, 2013, 11:07:08 PM4/6/13
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Alang-alang nak improve communication skills in reading, writing and speaking, consider also credit BM dan English untuk lulus SPM dan wajibkan ambik bahasa arab mulai sekolah rendah, perhaps requiring credit when already widespread in all schools.

mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Apr 6, 2013, 11:47:52 PM4/6/13
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Good suggestion Dr Naim. Bahasa penting to faham Quran

Syeikh Musu boleh jadi tutor Arab bila balik kalau dia nak balik
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:07:08 +0800
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Mohammad Naim Yaakub

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Apr 6, 2013, 11:53:20 PM4/6/13
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i'm sure most of us wish we had learned Arab right from small.

mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 12:09:53 AM4/7/13
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True tried to enrol classes now pun harfld to pick up. Guess committment kurang.

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shuko...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 12:13:49 AM4/7/13
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Mula mula I heard orang MOE yang put up the idea. Semalam tengok BN boh dalam manifesto dia.

Nanti bila komen orang kata "jangan politikkan isu pendidikan"

Saya masih. Jelas ingat jelas PPSMI.

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mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 1:04:24 AM4/7/13
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Actually education ni biar pakar buat keputusan. Org politic support je. Ni every time tukar menteri pendidikan policy tukar
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sawar tario

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Apr 7, 2013, 2:32:28 AM4/7/13
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Shukor, hang dah politikkan isu pendidikan ni.

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shuko...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 2:34:54 AM4/7/13
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Bang Sawar,
Aku dulu tak ambik Eng 121.

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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:32:28 -0700 (PDT)

sawar tario

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Apr 7, 2013, 2:50:51 AM4/7/13
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Bukan hang ambil 121, 122, ? aku rasa perlu lah BI kena dapat kepujian untuk lulus  SPM, sebabnya aku tenggok english budak-budak sekarang teruk betul lah. Masuk U kebanyakan rujukan masih bahasa inggeris.

mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 3:00:38 AM4/7/13
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Tu satu lagi kita kena jadi macam Jepun n Korea tulis buku ilmia dalam bahasa kita.
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:50:51 -0700 (PDT)

Zairi Muhammad

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Apr 7, 2013, 3:57:44 AM4/7/13
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• it's not about what grade they scored during spm. scholars tm yg jd staff aku blh kata semua scored A dlm BI during spm tp bila masuk kerja buat papers tunggang langgang. cakap inggeris pun tk confident unlike budak2 india & cina. yg studied overseas & at private u mcm mmu & taylor ok lah jugak.

•sebab apa?

• actually the underlying reason is not about getting A in BI tapi about using it commonly mcm budak2 india & cina.

• setuju sgt kalau ARAB & MANDARIN diajar sejak di sekolah rendah.

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mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 4:11:48 AM4/7/13
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In fact now is even worst. Aku ada staff tulis email office macam tulis dlm whatsapp atau sms guna short form.

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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:57:44 +0000

Zairi Muhammad

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Apr 7, 2013, 4:44:03 AM4/7/13
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satu lagi yg haru biru bila dah ada Google Translate.
ingat pada awal 2012, website mindef dlm bab kod pakaian versi english:
• "tidak dibenarkan memakai pakaian menjolok mata" = not allow to wear clothes that poke eye
• “baju melayu berkolar cekak musang dengan tiga butang” = collared shirts and tight malay civet berbutang three
• "baju batik lengan panjang berkolar / cekak musang buatan malaysia" = long-sleeve batik shirt with collar / mongoose fight made in malaysia

"malay civet berbutang three" hahaha ROFLMAO!

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shuko...@gmail.com

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Apr 7, 2013, 5:24:27 AM4/7/13
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Syarikat GLC eg TM, Celcom pun satu. Bila berhubung dengan dealer pun bantai tulis omputeh. Ada dealer tak paham sangat pun.

Sepanjang hayat aku, baru seorang saja installer TM yg berbangsa Mauritius. Yang lain nya Malaysian macam aku ni. Kalau setakat briefing bertubi tubi cakap omputih, lepas tu nak gi buat door to door sale, rasa aku tak serasi. Masa kita berjuai pun cakap Melayu juga.

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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 08:44:03 +0000

Hameed Jr

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Apr 7, 2013, 5:36:56 AM4/7/13
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In my opinion, most Malaysians their English is OK. But they are either shy or afraid to speak. Mentality dia takut orang perli atau takut salah cakap.So to be safe, just keep quiet. Happens at my workplace sometimes.

Practice makes perfect. 

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mohd zaid ahmad

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Apr 7, 2013, 8:43:40 AM4/7/13
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perasan notis ni kat walkway sekolah anak.
DSC00269.JPG

Hameed Jr

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Apr 7, 2013, 10:11:46 AM4/7/13
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Practice makes perfect. 

. "tidak dibenarkan memakai pakaian menjolok mata" = not allow to wear clothes that poke eye
. "baju melayu berkolar cekak musang dengan tiga butang" = collared shirts and tight malay civet berbutang three
. "baju batik lengan panjang berkolar / cekak musang buatan malaysia" = long-sleeve batik shirt with collar / mongoose fight made in malaysia


"malay civet berbutang three" hahaha ROFLMAO!
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In fact now is even worst. Aku ada staff tulis email office macam tulis dlm whatsapp atau sms guna short form.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:57:44 +0000
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. it's not about what grade they scored during spm. scholars tm yg jd staff aku blh kata semua scored A dlm BI during spm tp bila masuk kerja buat papers tunggang langgang. cakap inggeris pun tk confident unlike budak2 india & cina. yg studied overseas & at private u mcm mmu & taylor ok lah jugak.

.sebab apa?

. actually the underlying reason is not about getting A in BI tapi about using it commonly mcm budak2 india & cina.

. setuju sgt kalau ARAB & MANDARIN diajar sejak di sekolah rendah.

Hameed Jr

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Apr 7, 2013, 10:15:44 AM4/7/13
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I am guilty of that too- sometimes. :)


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In fact now is even worst. Aku ada staff tulis email office macam tulis dlm whatsapp atau sms guna short form.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:57:44 +0000
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. it's not about what grade they scored during spm. scholars tm yg jd staff aku blh kata semua scored A dlm BI during spm tp bila masuk kerja buat papers tunggang langgang. cakap inggeris pun tk confident unlike budak2 india & cina. yg studied overseas & at private u mcm mmu & taylor ok lah jugak.

.sebab apa?

. actually the underlying reason is not about getting A in BI tapi about using it commonly mcm budak2 india & cina.

. setuju sgt kalau ARAB & MANDARIN diajar sejak di sekolah rendah.

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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Bukan hang ambil 121, 122, ? aku rasa perlu lah BI kena dapat kepujian untuk lulus  SPM, sebabnya aku tenggok english budak-budak sekarang teruk betul lah. Masuk U kebanyakan rujukan masih bahasa inggeris.

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Bang Sawar,
Aku dulu tak ambik Eng 121.

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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:32:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Shukor, hang dah politikkan isu pendidikan ni.

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Mula mula I heard orang MOE yang put up the idea. Semalam tengok BN boh dalam manifesto dia.

Nanti bila komen orang kata "jangan politikkan isu pendidikan"

Saya masih. Jelas ingat jelas PPSMI.

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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 04:09:53 +0000
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True tried to enrol classes now pun harfld to pick up. Guess committment kurang.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:53:20 +0800
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i'm sure most of us wish we had learned Arab right from small.

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> Good suggestion Dr Naim. Bahasa penting to faham Quran
>
> Syeikh Musu boleh jadi tutor Arab bila balik kalau dia nak balik
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> From: Mohammad Naim Yaakub <genera...@gmail.com>
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> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:07:08 +0800
> To: smsp...@googlegroups.com<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
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> Subject: Re: BI-SPM
> Alang-alang nak improve communication skills in reading, writing and speaking, consider also credit BM dan English untuk lulus SPM dan wajibkan ambik bahasa arab mulai sekolah rendah, perhaps requiring credit when already widespread in all schools.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 7, 2013, Zairi Muhammad <za...@emct.com.my> wrote:
>> sepatutnya BI kena wajib dapat A+ utk lulus SPM.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Zairi Muhammad" <za...@emct.com.my>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:56:59
>> Reply-To: za...@emct.com.my
>> Subject: Re: BI-SPM
>>
>> saya pun tk setuju.
>>
>> Sent from BlackBerryￜ Q10

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>> From: shuko...@gmail.com
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:47:38
>> To: smspp7377<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BI-SPM
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>>
>> Saya tak setuju BI matapelajaran wajib lulus SPM
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sawar tario

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Apr 8, 2013, 12:39:47 AM4/8/13
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Tok guru, kita nak jadi macam Jepun, China,Korea, boleh tapi orang yang pandai -pandai tak mau tulis buku ilmiah dalam bahasa Malaysia. Jangankan nak tulis buku, baru duduk kat London 7 hari, balik Malaysia, lidahnya dah terpusing, nak sebut belacan je susah sangat.

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mohd zabidi mohd zain

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pagi tadi dengar taklimat dari pengarah pelajaran perak
syarat lulus spm:
............2012                         lulus BM
2013                                     lulus BM + Sejarah
2016                                     lulus BM + Sejarah + BI

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shuko...@gmail.com

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Tq BD
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mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Apr 8, 2013, 3:54:13 AM4/8/13
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Tapi rasa lepas PRU bila menteri baru tk kira BN or PR agak bertukar kot.

Anyway tq Bidi kerana share.
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mohd zabidi mohd zain

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kami difahamkan ia telah menjadi dasar moe
kerana
1. telah diluluskan dalam mesyuarat eksekutif yang dipengerusikan oleh ketua pengarah pelajaran
2. lepas tu diluluskan pula dalam mesyuarat kementerian yang dipengerusikan oleh ketua setiausaha kementerian
3. lepas tu pula diluluskan dalam mesyuarat pasca kabinet yang dipengerusikan oleh menteri pelajaran
lengkap lah prosedur untuk ianya menjadi dasar kementerian

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mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Alhamdulillah moga ia akan memperbaiki masa depan cucu kita
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Arjunaidi Jamaludin

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Apr 8, 2013, 5:35:11 AM4/8/13
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alahai buat apa nak buat sejarah compulsory?


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Rozy Zakaria

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Mulai thn ni pelajar2 Ting.5 akan menduduki Sejarah Kertas 3, kena jawab soalan esei 2 jam (if x silap). Ini Open book test yg soalan telah diberi lebih awal kpd pelajar2. 
Ingat dulu Mr Law ajar Tarawikh or sejarah masa Form 3. Dia tuleh penoh blackboard, suruh kita salin saja notes...adoi lengoh tangan. Mujox la masa Form 4 dh tk dk Sejarah. 
Masa kena sit for Peperiksaan Am Kerajaan (wajib utk govt servants), pon kena baca buku sejarah. Baca masa nk tidox, lepaih baca 1 page, terlena dah...ha ha ha..bedtime stories..( masa Primary school dok baca buku Bedtime Stories by Uncle Author, habih series tu baca, besides buku2 by Enid Blyton, Mystery of....)
Those were the days, my friends.

Mohammad Naim Yaakub

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Apr 8, 2013, 7:52:12 AM4/8/13
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Kita belajar sejarah dulu dengan mengingati nama, tarikh dan tempat. Kita tak tumpu kenapa sesuatu perkara itu berlaku, bagaimana ia berlaku dan apa yang boleh dipelajari (lessons learned). Ada cara tertentu nak ajar dan belajar sejarah ni supaya ia menarik dan nampak relevan daripada salin bulat2 dari papan hitam, putih atau hijau atau memorize dan "regurgitate" masa exam. 
Arju, I think its important that we learn about our past to understand our present context in order to chart our future. 


2013/4/8 Rozy Zakaria <roz...@gmail.com>

muhamad yusoff

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:39:02 AM4/8/13
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Bagus belajar sejarah....tapi sejarah ada banyak versi....versi Jepun versi orang putih masa malaysia dijajah atau versi bn...contoh memali dah jadi sejarah...kalu versi bn...tak syahid....versi pas...syahid.

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Jesli Mat

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Salams,

 "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" 

by Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás, known as George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952), was a philosopher, essayist, poet, and novelist.



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Yang ori hanya Sejarah bin Ahmad,  Mana saudara kita tu la ni?


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Ni belajar B inggeris pun budak terkial kial,
Ni nak belajar bahasa Arab,
Biol d buat nya.......



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