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fatihbarut  
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 More options Feb 13, 2:30 pm
From: fatihbarut <mfatihba...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:30:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Feb 13 2012 2:30 pm
Subject: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice
Hi guys,
Using Delphi I developed a dynamic toolbox which may be useful for all
sketchup users.
Here is the web site. I hope it makes your jobs easy as it does mine.

http://crysisplugin.weebly.com/

I would be happy to learn ideas about this project.


 
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fatihbarut  
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 More options Mar 9, 2:40 am
From: fatihbarut <mfatihba...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:40:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Mar 9 2012 2:40 am
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice
Hi guys as far as I see over 1000 people visited my website and some
of them used and liked my plugin.
You are also welcome to see and use it.

On Feb 13, 9:30 pm, fatihbarut <mfatihba...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Dan Rathbun  
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 More options Mar 9, 8:36 am
From: Dan Rathbun <danzoi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 05:36:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice

It is very poorly implemented. IMHO

It KILLS the right-click popup menus (which have commands that appear no
place else.)

It interfers with the user's hotkey settings.

The 3D toolbar looks very nice.

Too bad you messed with the hotkeys and menus.


 
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fatihbarut  
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 More options Mar 20, 5:02 pm
From: fatihbarut <mfatihba...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:02:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Mar 20 2012 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice
"It is very poorly implemented. IMHO "
firstly,
have you everdone a job like this before? Because your crytisism look
like very unskillful. It took months to build it even for a skillfull
programmer like me.

"It KILLS the right-click popup menus (which have commands that appear
no place else"
You don't have attention. If you had you would see there is a video
which clearly explains how you can open right-click popup menu. (just
double right click)
Next time when you crytisys someone start from yourself, instead of
blaiming and slander.

"It interfers with the user's hotkey settings. "
Another example of your attentionlessness , If you had read my website
you would see the answer I published there and queted below

-------------------------------------------------
and finally you should know something
this shotcut problem is not because of me. This is because of these
things.

1- There is no com object or .dll file for third party programs (Like
I made with delphi) to send commands to sketchup via ruby script.

2- The documentation and/or rubby script commands (forexample even for
making group) is not enough. I tried not to use shortcuts but there
weren't any ruby script command to do some actions.

Finally don't hesitate to contact me, I ll try do my best to help...
This is what I can.
----------------------------------------

"The 3D toolbar looks very nice. "

thanks

"Too bad you messed with the hotkeys and menus. "
just  one messing thing I can see in your message, your attentionless
brain.
This sentence may seem like a revilement but that is what I infered
from what you have written.

On Mar 9, 3:36 pm, Dan Rathbun <danzoi...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Krzysztof Skrzętnicki  
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 More options Mar 20, 5:37 pm
From: Krzysztof Skrzętnicki <gte...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:37:07 +0100
Local: Tues, Mar 20 2012 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice

This is your application. If the user doesn't notice how to do something it
is *you* who have failed at communication. The idea may be neat, but how
you execute the details really matters. I have installed your extension. It
was quite painful to get to work and I had to manually install the files.
If I were a average user I would abandon your plugin at the very beginning.

Double right click, you say? That's news to me. It wasn't clearly presented
anywhere. Such matters should be in FAQ (at least) or something.

Also you should really explain *why* do you mess with hotkeys? It is very
counter productive: people, especially professional users, get to remember
certain hotkeys. It's very difficult for them to switch. So again: why do
you *need* to hard-code certain hotkeys?

Another important piece is attitude: you really shouldn't be upset that
people don't wan't to install your software and yell at them if they don't
like something about it.

Best regards,
Krzysztof Skrzętnicki


 
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Krzysztof Skrzętnicki  
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 More options Mar 20, 6:04 pm
From: Krzysztof Skrzętnicki <gte...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:04:22 +0100
Local: Tues, Mar 20 2012 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice

You also falsely claim there is no way to call arbitrary dll or COM from
Ruby. While not documented in SketchUp API (because it's not the right
place to do that) there is plenty of resources on interfacing Ruby with
Win32. In particular it took me less than 10 minutes to find a complete and
working in SketchUp example.

See this article:
http://www.rubytips.org/2008/05/13/accessing-windows-api-from-ruby-us...

It may not be the *easiest* way to write a program in this way - but
perhaps you shouldn't use Delphi in the first place?

Best regards,
Krzysztof Skrzętnicki


 
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Dan Rathbun  
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 More options Mar 21, 4:42 am
From: Dan Rathbun <danzoi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2012 4:42 am
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:02:06 PM UTC-4, fatihbarut wrote:  

> Dan Rathbun wrote:
> "It is very poorly implemented. IMHO "

have you ever done a job like this before? Because your [criticism] look

> like very unskillful. It took months to build it even for a skillfull
> programmer like me.

YES... I am a skilled programmer with ~35 years Engineering experience.

Do not get personal. The first word I used was "IT" which referred to the
plugin, not you.

> Next time when you [criticise] someone start from yourself, instead of
> blaiming and slander.

I did not slander you...

... YOU asked for feedback, in the original post of this topic, and I quote
you:

>> fatahbarut wrote:
>> "I would be happy to learn ideas about this project."
> > "It interfers with the user's hotkey settings. "

Another example of your attentionlessness , If you had read my website

> you would see the answer I published there and [quoted] below

That is the point.. I KNOW those statements are incorrect.

And I know plugin authors should not change user's hotkey settings, nor
force them to use a certain set of hotkeys.

>  I tried not to use shortcuts but there
> weren't any ruby script command to do some actions.

What are the "some actions" that you cannot do ??

> > "Too bad you messed with the hotkeys and menus. "  

just  one messing thing I can see in your message, your attentionless

> brain.

Now THAT is actual personal slander against me.

If you do not wish feedback, then do not ask for it.


 
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Dan Rathbun  
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 More options Mar 21, 4:50 am
From: Dan Rathbun <danzoi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:50:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2012 4:50 am
Subject: Re: A new utility which may increase the speed of Sketchup users twice

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:02:06 PM UTC-4, fatihbarut wrote:

> > "It KILLS the right-click popup menus (which have commands
> >  that appear no place else" )
> You don't have attention. If you had you would see there is a video

which clearly explains how you can open right-click popup menu. (just

double right click)


I DID watch the video.. and it was not clear.

Why do you not have YOUR plugin use the double-right click,
(.. and leave the single-right click as it is now.) ??

~


 
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