SIOC discussion thread browsers

[Vasiliy Faronov]

Hi

Are there any tools that can visualise discussion threads made of
sioc:Items (possibly located at different sites) like Buxon does[1]?

(Buxon itself cannot handle most of the existing SIOC data at the moment
because it makes a number of assumptions which only hold for SWAML.)

[1] http://swaml.berlios.de/images/screenshots/buxon_02.png

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Vasiliy Faronov

[Sergio Fernández]

Dear Vasiliy,

I'm the main developer of SWAML and Buxon. Initially Buxon was developed
as a proof-of-concept to check that the data generated by SWAML could be
browsed; at the end to prove the validity of the approach.

Currently we're not developing new features for the tools, but if you
can provide us a detailed lists of lacks that you've detected (probably
related with bug #13097 reported by Tuukka too much time ago..., see
http://ur1.ca/fxfd ), we could try to fix it one of theses days...

Thank you very much.

Best,

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Sergio Fernández - sergio.f...@fundacionctic.org
R&D Deparment
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Phone: +34 984 29 12 12
Fax: +34 984 39 06 12
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[Vasiliy Faronov]

Hello Sergio,

I'm not criticising Buxon, in fact I think it's pretty good as a proof
of concept :-) But I'd like to see it improved to make it more useful
for exploring, testing and debugging SIOC deployments.

For starters I've sent a little patch that fixes #13097 (see my comment
at [1]), but that's not enough. There are a few other issues.

Buxon is too rigid in how it fetches data from the Web: it always
downloads information about every sioc:Post it finds in the description
it is initially pointed to (which makes it very slow even on SWAML's
"mini" demos, because it has to download so many files before it can
show anything), and it won't fetch anything else. The WordPress
exporter, for example, mirrors the blog's pagination in its RDF output,
linking to further pages with rdfs:seeAlso; this means that Buxon can
only see the first page of such blogs.

I would also like to see Buxon capable of dynamically fetching replies
to posts even if they are not mentioned in the forum description (again,
for example, the WordPress exporter only mentions comments when
describing the corresponding posts).

Other things that would be nice to see:

- RDFa support (e.g. for Drupal 7);
- autodiscovery via HTML link element;
- limited RDFS inference to avoid depending specifically on sioc:Forum
and sioc:Post.

I am actually looking into doing some of this stuff right now -- and
that's partly why I'm asking about other browsers. (On the other hand,
if there's already a tool that does all this, maybe it could just be
used instead of Buxon.)

I'll hopefully be sending more patches sometime soon.

[1]
http://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=13097&group_id=4806

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Vasiliy Faronov