Submarine Tailings Disposals

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Jeffers Serena Heptol

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Hi, Happy Easter to you all. Its just by the blood of Jesus, here we are...

Is Submarine Tailing Disposal (STD) Safe? Find Attached Scientific Research on STD and decide for yourself.

Jeffers

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Albert Tobe

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Thank You Jeffers and Serena,
Blessed Easter weekend to you all.

Albert


From: Jeffers Serena Heptol <serenaan...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:59:13 AM
Subject: Submarine Tailings Disposals

Lazie Zuka

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These are nice, I have never seen Christian Cartoons quite like this before, enjoy!
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Concentrate on this Sentence

To get something you never had, you have to do something you never
did... '  When God takes something from your grasp, He ' s not punishing you, but merely opening your hands to receive something better.  Concentrate on this sentence... ' The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you. '

Be bless

Lazie

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Albert Tobe

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Excellent piece....Thanks Lazie


From: Lazie Zuka <lzu...@gmail.com>
To: Albert Tobe <sena...@yahoo.com.au>
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Sent: Fri, 2 April, 2010 1:30:25 PM
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Who ever it is,
 
We are students here in China. Please, could you kindly refrain from using words like POLITICIANS or POLITICAL ENTHUSIAST.
 
James
 

--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Sino PNG <sinop...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sino PNG <sinop...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: China in Africa
To: sinopng-d...@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 5:41 AM


The political and developmental situation of Africa is similar to Papua New Guinea and should be approached with interest. That is both countries are developing states and face similar challenges. Both rely on external partners from both the East and West for their developmental aspirations.

To have a good understanding of the interests of Papua New Guinea's developmental partners I believe is key to bringing the best out of such opportunities for our people and country when binding agreements. I think what is failing currently in the developmental agreements is this mistake by either an oversight, self interest or lack of education.

I enjoyed reading this article.

Over to you the political enthusiast.



On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Albert Tobe <sena...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Dear all,
The quest to know China's engagement in the developing world is by far one of the most discussed topic today. I believe we as elites of PNG should strive to know more about China's engagements and carefully develop our approaches to deal with them....below is an article I received from a colleague at my University and decided to share with you all.

How is China Changing the Way we Think about Aid to Africa?

http://development.thinkaboutit.eu/think3/post/how_is_china_changing_the_way_we_think_about_aid_to_africa/
Published 26th March 2010
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By Elsje Fourie - Doctoral candidate (Bath, United Kingdom / Trento, Italy)
I was in Oxford last week for a seminar very closely related to my own interests, titled “China and Africa: Implications for OECD Donors”.  China in Africa is an absolutely huge topic right now, and I had just come from a similar talk in London where I had had to sit on the floor because the hall was so packed with embassy officials, journalists, executives and aid experts by the time I arrived.  But this second discussion—led by Adrian Davies, a senior official in the UK government’s Department for International Development (DFID)—was particularly thought-provoking. 
DFID’s budget for 2010/2011 is £7.8 billion, making it one of the largest aid donors in the world.  Much of this goes to Africa, where the Department has projects in 23 countries.  Yet DFID and other Western donors are increasingly having to deal with a fairly new but powerful player on the African continent: China.  China’s development assistance to Africa is still quite small compared to that of Europe and the US, but it has increased astronomically in the past few years—China is cancelling debt, giving $10 billion in cheap loans over the next three years, and investing heavily in African infrastructure.  
Sounds good, right?  Well, yes and no.  The debate over what this means for Africa’s development is loud, big and emotional.  It’s a debate I might explore in full in a future post.  But let’s see what DFID has to say on the matter, and how it views the changing dynamics in Africa:
One of the biggest consequences of these developments, says Mr. Davies, is that “we can no longer speak amongst ourselves”.  For the first time, Western aid agencies are having to engage with an important donor who might have radically different views and policies on aid.  This has not always been easy, he admits, but DFID has decided to participate in “constructive engagement” with China, rather than “whinging”. 
China’s aid tends to come in the form of roads, railways, buildings, wells, whereas the West has moved away from that to fund less tangible projects such as support for civil society, or institition-building.  This provides Africa with “the best of both worlds”, according to Mr. Davies: “it’s an issue of comparative advantage—China is good at physical infrastructure, we’re good at social infrastructure”.  DFID and China should be partners, he feels, rather than rivals.  If Chinese aid is less transparent than Western aid, and sometimes strengthens corrupt and undemocratic governments, “this is a problem Africans have to solve for themselves”. 
The last thing I’d want is for international development to be seen as a zero-sum game.  And it’s great to see Africa so high up on the agenda after decades of neglect.  But I left the talk slightly concerned.  Western aid to Africa is riddled with problems, but after more than half a century of development aid, it has also learned quite a few lessons—and learned them the hard way:
  • There was a time when traditional donors (Japan included), wouldn’t lend money any money for infrastructure unless the donors used their construction companies for the job.  This was rightly criticised, and loans became less tied
  • There was a time when Western donors dropped in, built bridges, and forgot to ask whether this was really what communities wanted.  This was rightly criticised, and initiatives to engage with women’s groups, the poor, and the vulnerable began to accompany aid programmes as a matter of course. 
  • There was a time when it was difficult to figure out where Western aid money was going and who it was helping.  This was rightly criticised, and so partnerships such as the International Aid Transparency Initiative (IATS) were launched. 
  • There was a time when donors did not ask how aid was affecting human rights, state institutions, and the environment in recipient countries.  This was rightly criticised, and approaches such as Do No Harm were born.
In short, international development aid has improved, however much further we have left to go.  This has been due not to altruism, but to pressure from Western civil society and recipients themselves, as well as to a recognition that indiscriminate, untransparent aid simply does not work.  It would be a great pity if China’s current style of aid—still itself in the process of developing into a concrete set of policies—convinced Western donors to roll back their own hard-won advances.  Some of the worst critics of the West’s mistakes are those now defending China from exactly the same charges.
There is one other, potentially more positive way in which China’s new role in Africa might be changing our views on development.  To China, trade is better than aid—and many in Africa agree.  As Mr. Davies puts it: “don’t ever call China a donor, as it prefers to call itself a partner in development.”  We’re going to be hearing more about this in coming months and years, and this one is a debate worth having.  Guido’s already made an interesting contribution in this regard.  Perhaps trade is really a better answer than aid.  But even then, it will need to be transparent, equitable and regulated—no matter who is Africa’s development partner du jour.
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Elsje Fourie is a South African PhD student living in Italy and the UK, and looking at African perspectives on China and India's development. Before undertaking my doctoral studies, I did some work on development and conflict resolution in Japan, Indonesia and Northern Ireland. I'll be doing some field research in Ethiopia, Tanzania and Kenya this summer, so hopefully this project will be a chance to combine many of my professional and academic interests.


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