November Meetup

[JasonOng]

Hi guys

Next week will be the first week of November which means SRB meetup
time!

Anybody interested to give a presentation? Choonkeat --> loginsane?

[James Tan]

Doh! I'm only going to be back in SG during the 2nd week of November, so I guess I'll miss this again. :-(

James

2009/10/27 JasonOng <velv...@gmail.com>

[Andy Croll]

I could do a presentation/open discussion on plugins and gems you
should be using?

Share some best practise?

I'm not really the person to ask (given my limited rails work
recently) but perhaps a short BDD demo might also be good...

[Jason Ong]

Tze Yang and I can do a BDD demo & some advance cucumber tips :)

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[James Tan]

I don't suppose there's any chance of postponing the meetup to the 2nd week of November so that I can catch it for the first time? ;-)

Also, any chance anyone is heading to RubyEnRails in Amsterdam this weekend?

Cheers,
James

2009/10/28 Jason Ong <velv...@gmail.com>

[Jason Ong]

From my calendars, the 2nd week of the month looks empty of any clashing events so it's possible for us to have it then. Is anybody against having the meetup on the 2nd wed of November?

I think I can give a presentation on "BDD with Cucumber - the good, the bad and the ugly". 

Regards,

Jason Ong

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[choonkeat]

11th Nov is fine for me

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[Paul Gallagher]

good for me too!

[Winston Teo]

Not good for me in the 2nd week, because I'll be in Japan.

I'll join you guys for Dec then. =) Enjoy!

Cheers,
Winston

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

I am ok with 11 Nov.

[David Chua]

Sounds good :)

Warmest regards,
David

[zan]

i'm fine with the date too. maybe can chip in some best practices as
well

On Oct 29, 4:31 pm, David Chua <zhc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds good :)
>
> Warmest regards,
> David
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng <elf...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > I am ok with 11 Nov.
>

> > *From:* Winston Teo <winston.yong...@gmail.com>
> > *To:* singap...@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thu, October 29, 2009 4:12:17 AM
> > *Subject:* [SRB] Re: November Meetup

>
> > Not good for me in the 2nd week, because I'll be in Japan.
>
> > I'll join you guys for Dec then. =) Enjoy!
>
> > Cheers,
> > Winston
>

> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Paul Gallagher <gallagher.p...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> good for me too!
>

> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, choonkeat <choonk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> 11th Nov is fine for me
>
> >>> --
> >>> choonkeat
>

> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> From my calendars, the 2nd week of the month looks empty of any clashing
> >>>> events so it's possible for us to have it then. Is anybody against having
> >>>> the meetup on the 2nd wed of November?
>
> >>>> I think I can give a presentation on "BDD with Cucumber - the good, the
> >>>> bad and the ugly".
>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Jason Ong
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>

> >>>> On 29-Oct-2009, at 1:30 AM, James Tan <james...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> I don't suppose there's any chance of postponing the meetup to the 2nd
> >>>> week of November so that I can catch it for the first time? ;-)
>
> >>>> Also, any chance anyone is heading to RubyEnRails in Amsterdam this
> >>>> weekend?
>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> James
>

> >>>> 2009/10/28 Jason Ong < <velve...@gmail.com>velve...@gmail.com>

>
> >>>>> Tze Yang and I can do a BDD demo & some advance cucumber tips :)
>

[Arun Thampi]

Count me in too.

Cheers,

Arun

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http://mclov.in

[Ruiwen Chua]

Second week sounds good =)

2009/10/29 Jason Ong <velv...@gmail.com>

[Haba Clement]

second week good, count me too.

 

best regards,

clement h.

[James Tan]

Hi Jason,

11 Nov is perfect for me. Thanks for pushing it back!

I'll be in Amsterdam for RubyEnRails this weekend, so perhaps I can
share a bit of what I've learned there during the meet up.

Looking forward to meeting all of you!

Cheers,
James

2009/10/29 Jason Ong <velv...@gmail.com>:

[Jason Ong]

Hey Arun

Are we able to use Wego's premise for the meetup? :)

Regards,

Jason Ong

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[Jason Ong]

Hey James np. Good to have some Amsterdam connection (say it like Ali
G) too!

Regards,
Jason Ong

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[Cheah Chu Yeow]

Hi Jason,

Arun just pinged me about this.

Well, we'd love to have you guys over once again but unfortunately we don't have a projector now. The old one died and we haven't got a replacement yet.

Let me know if you wanna bring in a projector to the Wego office, if not maybe we can try SMU?

Cheers,
Chu Yeow

[Jason Ong]

Hey Chuyeow thanks for the info! 

Anybody has a projector to spare or contacts to getting SMU for venue?

Regards,

Jason Ong

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[Dinesh Raju]

11th Nov is good for me too.




Dinesh

On Oct 29, 1:45 pm, choonkeat <choonk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 11th Nov is fine for me
>
> --
> choonkeat
>

> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > From my calendars, the 2nd week of the month looks empty of any clashing
> > events so it's possible for us to have it then. Is anybody against having
> > the meetup on the 2nd wed of November?
>
> > I think I can give a presentation on "BDD with Cucumber - the good, the bad
> > and the ugly".
>
> > Regards,
> > Jason Ong
>
> > --
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

> > On 29-Oct-2009, at 1:30 AM, James Tan <james...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't suppose there's any chance of postponing the meetup to the 2nd week
> > of November so that I can catch it for the first time? ;-)
>
> > Also, any chance anyone is heading to RubyEnRails in Amsterdam this
> > weekend?
>
> > Cheers,
> > James
>

> > 2009/10/28 Jason Ong < <velve...@gmail.com>velve...@gmail.com>

>
> >> Tze Yang and I can do a BDD demo & some advance cucumber tips :)
>

[Jason Ong]

Hi guys

If we can't get a projector nor an alternative venue, we could try getting everyone on the same network and speakers preso on a screen session in terminal while audience ssh + screen attach on their laptop? Those that didn't bring laptop will just turn to his/her neighbour and ask "Would you be so kind to share?" What ya think?

[zan]

i think thats quite a cool idea! are there still no venue other than
wego?

[Cheah Chu Yeow]

Hey guys,

Just FYI, there won't be wifi available at Wego, and even if we do set a temporary one up for the meetup, it'll be hit or miss from the 3rd floor where things are happening.

Will ad hoc networking work?

Cheers,
Chu Yeow

[Jason Ong]

Tze Yang can bring his router and we can all have wifi goodness :)

[Tze Yang Ng]

Oops !!! My wife brought it to shanghai ...

TY

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[Jason Ong]

Heh. Anybody with a spare wireless router?

[Ronnie Liew]

Hi,

I have a spare router but only G not N :p

Should suffice?

Ronnie

[Tze Yang Ng]

I would say that wireless G is already very good, i was still using
wireless B a few months back :]

==

[Jason Ong]

Hey Ronnie

Any 802.11* will suffice. Thanks! :)

Ad-hoc networks (those blasted from laptops) got some issues with certain Linux powered wireless receivers unable to connect to the network so it would be awesome if we have wifi for a lan network.

Andy ya comfy with this setup for yr preso?

[JasonOng]

Hi guys

I've updated our meetup wiki. http://singaporerubybrigade.pbworks.com/FrontPage

Here's a summary

- Presentations -
1. Plugins, gems & best practices discussion - Andy Croll & Zan
2. BDD with Cucumber - The good, the bad & the ugly - Jason & Tze Yang

- When -
<11 November 2009, Wednesday, 7pm>

- Where -
Wego

Speakers all ok?

On Nov 5, 10:09 am, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Ronnie
>
> Any 802.11* will suffice. Thanks! :)
>
> Ad-hoc networks (those blasted from laptops) got some issues with certain
> Linux powered wireless receivers unable to connect to the network so it
> would be awesome if we have wifi for a lan network.
>
> Andy ya comfy with this setup for yr preso?
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Tze Yang Ng <ngt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I would say that wireless G is already very good, i was still using
> > wireless B a few months back :]
>
> > ==
>

> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Ronnie Liew <ronniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a spare router but only G not N :p
> > > Should suffice?
> > > Ronnie
>

> > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Heh. Anybody with a spare wireless router?
>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Tze Yang Ng <ngt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> Oops !!! My wife brought it to shanghai ...
>
> > >>> TY
>
> > >>> ==

> > >>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > Tze Yang can bring his router and we can all have wifi goodness :)
>

> > >>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Cheah Chu Yeow <chuy...@gmail.com>

> > >>> > wrote:
>
> > >>> >> Hey guys,
>
> > >>> >> Just FYI, there won't be wifi available at Wego, and even if we do
> > set
> > >>> >> a
> > >>> >> temporary one up for the meetup, it'll be hit or miss from the 3rd
> > >>> >> floor
> > >>> >> where things are happening.
>
> > >>> >> Will ad hoc networking work?
>
> > >>> >> Cheers,
> > >>> >> Chu Yeow
>

[choonkeat]

if there's time (our track record suggests unlikely) for lightning talk, can I sneak in a quick one on loginsane... as a sequel to last month's authlogic/rpx presentation.

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[Jason Ong]

Yes yes! :)

[David Chua]

That would be great!

[Andy Croll]

Chaps. I'm not going to be there. Got to be in the UK.

Sorry!

On Nov 5, 2:42 pm, JasonOng <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys
>

> I've updated our meetup wiki.http://singaporerubybrigade.pbworks.com/FrontPage

[zan]

I thought the "Plugins, gems & best practices discussion" is a go-
round-the-table discussion? I suggest using the format from this post
http://rubyflow.com/items/2865

The categories are
-Hardware
-Software
-Hosting

Maybe we can add more
-gems that you use(for authentication, testing, blah)
-the ide(editors, shells, blah)

Everyone can chip in during the meetup. Or maybe discuss it as a email
thread? Then choon keat has more time for his gem?

What do u guys think?

On Nov 5, 3:48 pm, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes yes! :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:02 PM, choonkeat <choonk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > if there's time (our track record suggests unlikely) for lightning talk,

> > can I sneak in a quick one on loginsane<http://github.com/choonkeat/loginsane>...
> > as a sequel to last month's authlogic/rpx presentation<http://tardate.blogspot.com/2009/10/rails-authentication-with-authlog...>
> > .
>
> > --
> > choonkeat

[Jason Ong]

Hey Zan good idea. Since Andy can't make it this time we can either
have round table discussion or a full featured loginsane :)

What do you guys think?

Regards,
Jason Ong

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[Tamás Herman]

im interested in the best practices.

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tom

[zan]

maybe one more category? maybe those who work in teams can share your
version control(git,hg,svn,blah) work flow?

[Paul Gallagher]

Choon Keat, that would be fab! Been to busy with other projects to take a deep look yet, so a lightning talk would be an ideal intro.

Regards,
Paul

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:02 PM, choonkeat <choo...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Ruiwen Chua]

+1 for version control workflow showcases =)

[Tamás Herman]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM, zan <lian...@gmail.com> wrote:

> maybe one more category? maybe those who work in teams can share your
> version control(git,hg,svn,blah) work flow?

blah is darcs.net in my case ;)
i can share my experience from ~1.5yrs ago and i can compare it to git
and svn too.

there is a quite extensive and real world example based comparision on
distributed revision control systems here:
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DarcsEvaluation
BUT it's outdated, since darcs development continued afterwards and
the problems are fixed now.

i read the whole thread and despite of that fact that the authors
concluded that - at that time - git is the way to go, i still think
the examples in the article show very nicely how much simpler,
elegant, convenient is darcs and how pityful is the naming and the
procedures of the other systems.

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[Jeffrey 'jf' Lim]

2009/11/5 Tamás Herman <herma...@gmail.com>

would love to hear you talk about that! (preferably on a screen) I researched rcs-es some time back, and darcs did strike me as something interesting. (Although i didnt really go too much into the math of the patching algols)

-jf
 

[zan]

can we focus on version control. the best practices categories are too
broad. its unlikely we can finish in one session. i'd suggest that as
an email thread if anybody is interested.

version control workflows
-darcs by tamas
-git workflow by ??
-mercurial anyone?
-others?

On Nov 5, 10:39 pm, "Jeffrey 'jf' Lim" <jfs.wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/5 Tamás Herman <hermanta...@gmail.com>

[James Tan]

2009/11/5 zan <lian...@gmail.com>:

>
> can we focus on version control. the best practices categories are too
> broad. its unlikely we can finish in one session. i'd suggest that as
> an email thread if anybody is interested.
>
> version control workflows
> -darcs by tamas
> -git workflow by ??

I can talk about the git workflow that was use for our project, SUSE Studio.

Cheers,
James

> -mercurial anyone?
> -others?
>

[xman]

May I know where is this Wego's premise?

On Oct 29, 6:07 pm, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Arun
>
> Are we able to use Wego's premise for the meetup? :)

>
> Regards,
> Jason Ong
>
> --
> Sent from my iPhone
>

> On 29-Oct-2009, at 4:56 PM, Arun Thampi <arun.tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Count me in too.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arun
>
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM, zan <liang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i'm fine with the date too. maybe can chip in some best practices as
> > well
>
> > On Oct 29, 4:31 pm, David Chua <zhc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sounds good :)
>
> > > Warmest regards,
> > > David
>
> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng  
> > <elf...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > > > I am ok with 11 Nov.
>
> > > > *From:* Winston Teo <winston.yong...@gmail.com>
> > > > *To:* singap...@googlegroups.com
> > > > *Sent:* Thu, October 29, 2009 4:12:17 AM
> > > > *Subject:* [SRB] Re: November Meetup
>
> > > > Not good for me in the 2nd week, because I'll be in Japan.
>
> > > > I'll join you guys for Dec then. =) Enjoy!
>
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Winston
>
> > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Paul Gallagher  
> > <gallagher.p...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >> good for me too!
>
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, choonkeat  

> > It's better to be a pirate than join the Navy - Steve Jobs
> >http://mclov.in

[Tamás Herman]

xman,

53B Boat Quay
Singapore 04984

(it's a small glass door next to a restaurant which has huge ass crabs, iirc :)

--
tom

[Andras Kristof]

What is an ass crab?

2009/11/7 Tamás Herman <herma...@gmail.com>

[Zhenyi Tan]

huge ass crabs == big-ass crabs (i think)

--
Zhenyi Tan

[shinyee]

Haha. OK. I'll plan to attend, have been trying out Ruby for a while, and getting into Rails now.

[Andras Kristof]

I know. I was just trying to make a silly joke.

Andras

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Zhenyi Tan <qqzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Justin Lee]

Hi there,

I talked about the research on some software engineering myths with
actual empirical data.

I wrote a brief summary of what it is at my blog:
http://www.justinlee.sg/2009/10/12/software-engineering-empirical-discoveries/

If you want the direct link, go here:
Exploding Software-Engineering Myths -
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/nagappan-100609.aspx

There are various other links to Nagappan's research papers in that
news article regarding all these interesting findings. What I'm
impressed is that they have actual numbers to show.

Cheers!

Regards,
Justin Lee

On Nov 4, 6:19 pm, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tze Yang can bring his router and we can all have wifi goodness :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Cheah Chu Yeow <chuy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey guys,
>
> > Just FYI, there won't be wifi available at Wego, and even if we do set a
> > temporary one up for the meetup, it'll be hit or miss from the 3rd floor
> > where things are happening.
>
> > Will ad hoc networking work?
>
> > Cheers,
> > Chu Yeow
>

> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:26 PM, zan <liang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> i think thats quite a cool idea! are there still no venue other than
> >> wego?
>

> >> On Nov 4, 1:28 pm, Jason Ong <velve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi guys
>
> >> > If we can't get a projector nor an alternative venue, we could try
> >> getting
> >> > everyone on the same network and speakers preso on a screen session in
> >> > terminal while audience ssh + screen attach on their laptop? Those that
> >> > didn't bring laptop will just turn to his/her neighbour and ask "Would
> >> you
> >> > be so kind to share?" What ya think?
>
> >> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Dinesh Raju <din...@dineshraju.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > 11th Nov is good for me too.
>
> >> > > Dinesh
>