herm, not a fan of splitting the conversation across many channels without
open reconciliation. So now we have a google group, meetup, and facebook.
whatever, I'll follow the community whereever..
> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
> With great power comes great responsibility.
> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and discussions. :)
> aka let's not spam
> Cheers!
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I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and
> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook
> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But
> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
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I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities
from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work
we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
discussions on FB better.
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dinoro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems excessive.
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saushe...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and
>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook
>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But
>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
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I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike more...
The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet up. That was my only intention.
I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little project for someone :-)
On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities > from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work > we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the > discussions on FB better.
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>> Seems excessive.
>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com<javascript:> >> > wrote:
>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and >>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook >>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But >>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/singapore-rb?hl=en.
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btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now
find I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work
quite well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is
only now just starting to fire.
I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google group;-)
And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes place
in Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the
kind of ruby folks I know;-)
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com> wrote:
> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike more...
> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet up.
> That was my only intention.
> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
> project for someone :-)
> Andy
> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities
>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work
>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
>> discussions on FB better.
>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Seems excessive.
>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and
>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook
>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But
>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to singapore-rb...@**
>>>> googlegroups.com.
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I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home should be very carefully chosen.
Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an active technical group.
Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
(photo at http://www.bbs-software.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tiger-kin...).
Sure, you can hang out with a tiger from time to time, but who's to tell when it's
going to turn on you? At the heart of it, I guess I don't trust Facebook.
I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I have
a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's probably a way to
read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are definitely text mode
nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet groups,
to avoid spam.)
Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google Groups.
> btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I > now find I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see > it work quite well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one > part that is only now just starting to fire.
> I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
> But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google > group;-)
> And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes > place in Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not > for the kind of ruby folks I know;-)
> Cheers,
> Paul
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com > <mailto:andycr...@deepcalm.com>> wrote:
> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I
> dislike more...
> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a
> more active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're
> having a meet up. That was my only intention.
> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone
> could build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a
> nice little project for someone :-)
> Andy
> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively
> activities from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a
> shot. If it doesn't work we can close it or maybe the next
> wave of ruby folks would enjoy the discussions on FB better.
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Seems excessive.
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang
> <saus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing
> conversations, and Meetup for the meetup
> announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook
> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what
> we already have. But I'll go with the community if
> that's what everyone thinks is best.
> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap
> wrote:
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I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All -
> I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
> Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home should
> be very carefully chosen.
> Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an
> active technical group.
> Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
> (photo at
> http://www.bbs-software.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tiger-kin...).
> Sure, you can hang out with a tiger from time to time, but who's to tell
> when it's
> going to turn on you? At the heart of it, I guess I don't trust Facebook.
> I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I have
> a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's
> probably a way to
> read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are definitely
> text mode
> nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet
> groups,
> to avoid spam.)
> Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more
> conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
> I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings
> rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google
> Groups.
> btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now find
> I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work quite
> well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only now
> just starting to fire.
> I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
> But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google group;-)
> And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes place in
> Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the kind of
> ruby folks I know;-)
> Cheers,
> Paul
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com> wrote:
>> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike
>> more...
>> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
>> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet up.
>> That was my only intention.
>> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
>> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
>> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
>> project for someone :-)
>> Andy
>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities
>>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work
>>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
>>> discussions on FB better.
>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Seems excessive.
>>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and
>>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook
>>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But
>>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
>>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
>>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and discussions.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> aka let's not spam
>>>>>> Cheers!
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> wrote:
> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
> -ccm
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > All -
> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home
> should
> > be very carefully chosen.
> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an
> > active technical group.
> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
> > (photo at
> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I
> have
> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's
> > probably a way to
> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are
> definitely
> > text mode
> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet
> > groups,
> > to avoid spam.)
> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more
> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings
> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google
> > Groups.
> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now
> find
> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work quite
> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only
> now
> > just starting to fire.
> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google
> group;-)
> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes
> place in
> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the
> kind of
> > ruby folks I know;-)
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com>
> wrote:
> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike
> >> more...
> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet
> up.
> >> That was my only intention.
> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
> >> project for someone :-)
> >> Andy
> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively
> activities
> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't
> work
> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
> >>> discussions on FB better.
> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Seems excessive.
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations,
> and
> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the
> Facebook
> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already
> have. But
> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and
> discussions.
> >>>>>> :)
> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
> >>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>> --
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I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It is
like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as useful
as the information I put in :)
If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then it's
good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of
consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many
of the topics.
Andras
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahen....@2359media.com>wrote:
> Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby
> developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin <
> c...@coryellmartin.org> wrote:
>> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
>> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
>> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
>> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
>> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
>> -ccm
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > All -
>> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
>> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home
>> should
>> > be very carefully chosen.
>> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an
>> > active technical group.
>> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
>> > (photo at
>> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I
>> have
>> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's
>> > probably a way to
>> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are
>> definitely
>> > text mode
>> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet
>> > groups,
>> > to avoid spam.)
>> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more
>> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
>> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings
>> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google
>> > Groups.
>> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now
>> find
>> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work
>> quite
>> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only
>> now
>> > just starting to fire.
>> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
>> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google
>> group;-)
>> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes
>> place in
>> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the
>> kind of
>> > ruby folks I know;-)
>> > Cheers,
>> > Paul
>> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike
>> >> more...
>> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
>> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a
>> meet up.
>> >> That was my only intention.
>> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
>> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
>> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
>> >> project for someone :-)
>> >> Andy
>> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively
>> activities
>> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't
>> work
>> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
>> >>> discussions on FB better.
>> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Seems excessive.
>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations,
>> and
>> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the
>> Facebook
>> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already
>> have. But
>> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi all!
>> >>>>>> Facebook groups have been great for discussions and sharing of
>> >>>>>> resources so I set one up.
>> >>>>>> You can join the group at
>> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/groups/singaporerubybrigade/
>> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
>> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
>> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and
>> discussions.
>> >>>>>> :)
>> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
>> >>>>>> Cheers!
>> >>>>> --
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>> >>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group.
>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>> --
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>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
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>> >> To post to this group, send email to singapore-rb@googlegroups.com.
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>> >> singapore-rb+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
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>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/singapore-rb?hl=en.
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I would like to share my observations about the usage of FB groups versus google groups for online tech communities
HackerspaceSG has an google group and facebook group. Both groups are actively used and it seems that discussions on both are quite different and by different groups of people.
Python Users have a google group which is quiet now and have 2 active FB groups: Singapore Python Users Group and Singapore Python Platoon.
iOS Dev scout has a google group which is quiet now and has an active FB group too.
There probably isn't a one size fits all solution as of yet. Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow organically?
>________________________________ > From: Andras Kristof <akris...@gmail.com> >To: singapore-rb@googlegroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: [SRB] Re: Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group
>I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as useful as the information I put in :)
>If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then it's good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
>I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many of the topics.
>Andras
>On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahen....@2359media.com> wrote:
>Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha. >>
>>On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin <c...@coryellmartin.org> wrote:
>>I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like >>>that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I >>>suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a >>>setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
>>>I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
>>>-ccm
>>>On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> All -
>>>> I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
>>>> Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home should >>>> be very carefully chosen.
>>>> Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an >>>> active technical group.
>>>> Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai >>>> (photo at >>>> http://www.bbs-software.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tiger-kin...). >>>> Sure, you can hang out with a tiger from time to time, but who's to tell >>>> when it's >>>> going to turn on you? At the heart of it, I guess I don't trust Facebook.
>>>> I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I have >>>> a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's >>>> probably a way to >>>> read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are definitely >>>> text mode >>>> nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet >>>> groups, >>>> to avoid spam.)
>>>> Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more >>>> conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
>>>> I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings >>>> rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google >>>> Groups.
>>>> btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now find >>>> I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work quite >>>> well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only now >>>> just starting to fire.
>>>> I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
>>>> But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google group;-)
>>>> And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes place in >>>> Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the kind of >>>> ruby folks I know;-)
>>>> Cheers, >>>> Paul
>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com> wrote:
>>>>> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike >>>>> more...
>>>>> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more >>>>> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet up. >>>>> That was my only intention.
>>>>> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and >>>>> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could >>>>> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little >>>>> project for someone :-)
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>>>>>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities >>>>>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work >>>>>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the >>>>>> discussions on FB better.
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Seems excessive.
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and >>>>>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook >>>>>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But >>>>>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>>> Facebook groups have been great for discussions and sharing of >>>>>>>>> resources so I set one up. >>>>>>>>> You can join the group at >>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/groups/singaporerubybrigade/
>>>>>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say... >>>>>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
>>>>>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and discussions. >>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>> aka let's not spam
>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/p9Ez8zI-3jgJ.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to singapore-rb@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> singapore-rb+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/singapore-rb?hl=en.
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* Andras Kristof <akris...@gmail.com>
> *To:* singapore-rb@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SRB] Re: Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group
> I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It
> is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as
> useful as the information I put in :)
> If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then it's
> good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
> I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of
> consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many
> of the topics.
> Andras
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahen....@2359media.com>wrote:
> Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby
> developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin <
> c...@coryellmartin.org> wrote:
> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
> -ccm
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > All -
> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home
> should
> > be very carefully chosen.
> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an
> > active technical group.
> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
> > (photo at
> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I
> have
> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's
> > probably a way to
> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are
> definitely
> > text mode
> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet
> > groups,
> > to avoid spam.)
> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more
> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings
> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google
> > Groups.
> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now
> find
> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work quite
> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only
> now
> > just starting to fire.
> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google
> group;-)
> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes
> place in
> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the
> kind of
> > ruby folks I know;-)
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com>
> wrote:
> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike
> >> more...
> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet
> up.
> >> That was my only intention.
> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
> >> project for someone :-)
> >> Andy
> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively
> activities
> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't
> work
> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
> >>> discussions on FB better.
> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Seems excessive.
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations,
> and
> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the
> Facebook
> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already
> have. But
> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and
> discussions.
> >>>>>> :)
> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
> >>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>> --
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> >>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group.
> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
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On Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:51:14 UTC+8, Akomba wrote:
> > Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow > organically?
> Of course. I have no problem with that.
>> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Andras Kristof <akri...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >> *To:* singap...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:29 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [SRB] Re: Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group
>> I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It >> is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as >> useful as the information I put in :)
>> If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then >> it's good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
>> I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of >> consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many >> of the topics.
>> Andras
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahe...@2359media.com<javascript:> >> > wrote:
>> Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby >> developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin < >> ca...@coryellmartin.org <javascript:>> wrote:
>> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like >> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I >> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a >> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
>> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
>> -ccm
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithr...@gmail.com<javascript:>> >> wrote: >> > All -
>> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
>> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home >> should >> > be very carefully chosen.
>> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an >> > active technical group.
>> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai >> > (photo at
>> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I >> have >> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's >> > probably a way to >> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are >> definitely >> > text mode >> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet >> > groups, >> > to avoid spam.)
>> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more >> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
>> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings >> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google >> > Groups.
>> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now >> find >> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work >> quite >> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only >> now >> > just starting to fire.
>> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
>> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google >> group;-)
>> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes >> place in >> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the >> kind of >> > ruby folks I know;-)
>> > Cheers, >> > Paul
>> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andy...@deepcalm.com<javascript:>> >> wrote:
>> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike >> >> more...
>> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more >> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a >> meet up. >> >> That was my only intention.
>> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and >> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could >> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little >> >> project for someone :-)
>> >> Andy
>> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively >> activities >> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't >> work >> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the >> >>> discussions on FB better.
>> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Seems excessive.
>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, >> and >> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the >> Facebook >> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already >> have. But >> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi all!
>> >>>>>> Facebook groups have been great for discussions and sharing of >> >>>>>> resources so I set one up. >> >>>>>> You can join the group at >> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/groups/singaporerubybrigade/
>> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say... >> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
>> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and >> discussions. >> >>>>>> :) >> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
>> >>>>>> Cheers!
>> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group. >> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com. >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
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Stick to email if you guys want to remain developer-centric and close-knit. Extend your reach if you guys want to do more ambitious things and evangelism.
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On 11 Sep, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Andras Kristof <akris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow organically?
> Of course. I have no problem with that.
> From: Andras Kristof <akris...@gmail.com>
> To: singapore-rb@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [SRB] Re: Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group
> I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as useful as the information I put in :)
> If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then it's good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
> I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many of the topics.
> Andras
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahen....@2359media.com> wrote:
> Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin <c...@coryellmartin.org> wrote:
> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
> -ccm
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > All -
> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home should
> > be very carefully chosen.
> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an
> > active technical group.
> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
> > (photo at
> > http://www.bbs-software.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tiger-kin...).
> > Sure, you can hang out with a tiger from time to time, but who's to tell
> > when it's
> > going to turn on you? At the heart of it, I guess I don't trust Facebook.
> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I have
> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's
> > probably a way to
> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are definitely
> > text mode
> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet
> > groups,
> > to avoid spam.)
> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more
> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings
> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google
> > Groups.
> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now find
> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work quite
> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only now
> > just starting to fire.
> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google group;-)
> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes place in
> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the kind of
> > ruby folks I know;-)
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com> wrote:
> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike
> >> more...
> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet up.
> >> That was my only intention.
> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
> >> project for someone :-)
> >> Andy
> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities
> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work
> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
> >>> discussions on FB better.
> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Seems excessive.
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and
> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook
> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But
> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and discussions.
> >>>>>> :)
> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
> >>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>> --
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> >>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group.
> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
> >>>> --
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Aen Tan <he...@aentan.com> wrote:
> Stick to email if you guys want to remain developer-centric and
> close-knit. Extend your reach if you guys want to do more ambitious things
> and evangelism.
> On 11 Sep, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Andras Kristof <akris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow
> organically?
> Of course. I have no problem with that.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Andras Kristof <akris...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* singapore-rb@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [SRB] Re: Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group
>> I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It
>> is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as
>> useful as the information I put in :)
>> If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then
>> it's good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
>> I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of
>> consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many
>> of the topics.
>> Andras
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahen....@2359media.com>wrote:
>> Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby
>> developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin <
>> c...@coryellmartin.org> wrote:
>> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
>> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
>> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
>> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
>> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
>> -ccm
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithrbenn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > All -
>> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
>> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home
>> should
>> > be very carefully chosen.
>> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an
>> > active technical group.
>> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
>> > (photo at
>> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I
>> have
>> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's
>> > probably a way to
>> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are
>> definitely
>> > text mode
>> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet
>> > groups,
>> > to avoid spam.)
>> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more
>> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
>> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings
>> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google
>> > Groups.
>> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now
>> find
>> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work
>> quite
>> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only
>> now
>> > just starting to fire.
>> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
>> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google
>> group;-)
>> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes
>> place in
>> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the
>> kind of
>> > ruby folks I know;-)
>> > Cheers,
>> > Paul
>> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andycr...@deepcalm.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike
>> >> more...
>> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more
>> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a
>> meet up.
>> >> That was my only intention.
>> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and
>> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could
>> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little
>> >> project for someone :-)
>> >> Andy
>> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively
>> activities
>> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't
>> work
>> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the
>> >>> discussions on FB better.
>> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Seems excessive.
>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang <saus...@gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations,
>> and
>> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the
>> Facebook
>> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already
>> have. But
>> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi all!
>> >>>>>> Facebook groups have been great for discussions and sharing of
>> >>>>>> resources so I set one up.
>> >>>>>> You can join the group at
>> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/groups/singaporerubybrigade/
>> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say...
>> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
>> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and
>> discussions.
>> >>>>>> :)
>> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
>> >>>>>> Cheers!
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> >>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group.
>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>> --
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>> >>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group.
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>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
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>> Groups
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>> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/p9Ez8zI-3jgJ.
>> >> To post to this group, send email to singapore-rb@googlegroups.com.
>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >> singapore-rb+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
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I'm looking for talented ROR developers to hire for in-house work. So do drop me a line if anyone is interested in meeting up for a chat ! Or if anyone wants to chat about this.
I would think that Facebook would draw more friendly eye-balls and thus awareness, whereas Meetup purely manages the events nicely. Google Groups is good for geeky discussions... Pretty much like a 3-circle Venn diagram, pretty tough to get a perfect tool.
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:43:54 PM UTC+8, Sau Sheong Chang wrote:
> Chill. It's only a discussion forum :) Black cat or white cat ...
> On Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:51:14 UTC+8, Akomba wrote:
>> > Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow >> organically?
>> Of course. I have no problem with that.
>>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Andras Kristof <akri...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* singap...@googlegroups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:29 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [SRB] Re: Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group
>>> I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It >>> is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as >>> useful as the information I put in :)
>>> If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then >>> it's good. If not, then it won't make a difference.
>>> I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method >>> of consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on >>> many of the topics.
>>> Andras
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jia Hen Tee <jiahe...@2359media.com>wrote:
>>> Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby >>> developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Carl Coryell-Martin < >>> ca...@coryellmartin.org> wrote:
>>> I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like >>> that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I >>> suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a >>> setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.
>>> I'll survive if that's what we have to do.
>>> -ccm
>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Keith Bennett <keithr...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > All -
>>> > I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...
>>> > Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home >>> should >>> > be very carefully chosen.
>>> > Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an >>> > active technical group.
>>> > Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai >>> > (photo at
>>> > I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I >>> have >>> > a plethora of client applications from which to choose. Heck, there's >>> > probably a way to >>> > read Google Group messages on a text only terminal. (There are >>> definitely >>> > text mode >>> > nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet >>> > groups, >>> > to avoid spam.)
>>> > Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more >>> > conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.
>>> > I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings >>> > rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google >>> > Groups.
>>> > On 9/10/2012 10:03 AM, Paul Gallagher wrote:
>>> > btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I >>> now find >>> > I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work >>> quite >>> > well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only >>> now >>> > just starting to fire.
>>> > I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.
>>> > But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google >>> group;-)
>>> > And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes >>> place in >>> > Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the >>> kind of >>> > ruby folks I know;-)
>>> > Cheers, >>> > Paul
>>> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Andy Croll <andy...@deepcalm.com> >>> wrote:
>>> >> I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike >>> >> more...
>>> >> The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a >>> more >>> >> active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a >>> meet up. >>> >> That was my only intention.
>>> >> I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and >>> >> discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone >>> could >>> >> build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice >>> little >>> >> project for someone :-)
>>> >> Andy
>>> >> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:23 AM UTC+8, JasonOng wrote:
>>> >>> I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively >>> activities >>> >>> from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it >>> doesn't work >>> >>> we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the >>> >>> discussions on FB better.
>>> >>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Roy Wang <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Seems excessive.
>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Sau Sheong Chang < >>> saus...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, >>> and >>> >>>>> Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the >>> Facebook >>> >>>>> Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already >>> have. But >>> >>>>> I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.
>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:51:36 UTC+8, Zack Yap wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Hi all!
>>> >>>>>> Facebook groups have been great for discussions and sharing of >>> >>>>>> resources so I set one up. >>> >>>>>> You can join the group at >>> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/groups/singaporerubybrigade/
>>> >>>>>> It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say... >>> >>>>>> With great power comes great responsibility.
>>> >>>>>> Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and >>> discussions. >>> >>>>>> :) >>> >>>>>> aka let's not spam
>>> >>>>>> Cheers!
>>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>>>> Groups "Singapore Ruby Brigade" group. >>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/singapore-rb/-/QP5Y-WGOwIAJ.
>>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to singap...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>>>> singapore-rb...@googlegroups.com.
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