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 More options Mar 14 2012, 8:26 am
From: edchip...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:26:11 +0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 8:26 am
Subject: Re: Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: Questions About The CMS Design

Interesting discussion last few days, and I must say I do like the change  
of having the site tree exposed now as soon as you log into the cms. My  
suggestion though to reduce the number of steps for adding a page, why not  
bring back the 2.4 method and have a dropdown and a create button above the  
site tree? Even when editing an existing page, I'm not sure of the  
performance hit this would cause but just a thought ;).

On , mrsteveheyes <steve.he...@studiobonito.co.uk> wrote:

> Wow guys, I'm blown away my the speed of discussion and support there is  
> in this! And there was me just thinking I was being awkward!
> I think the quickest fix would be to add a "Add New Page" button above  
> the tree in the "Edit Page". This would remove most of the confusion and  
> wouldn't be too difficult to implement?
> In the long run, I like Felipe's mock up, however I understand that  
> having nest tabs in tabs isn't ideal. I really like you're implementation  
> Sam. One thing I really liked about SSv2.4 was that when you logged in  
> you where straight into the pages sections and the tree was there and you  
> can edit straight away. Would it not be worth implementing most of the  
> functionality in Pages > Edit & Organize into the the column  
> (#cms-content-tools-CMSPageEditController) in "Edit Page". I guess  
> similiar to how it was in SSv2.4. I realise that we want to expand and  
> move forward and not necessarily copy the functionality in v2.4 but I  
> genuinely think that the "Edit & Organize" section does not need it's own  
> page.
> Also, is there any way to create global settings at the moment? In v2.4  
> you can create a SiteConfig_MySiteDecorator class in SiteConfig.php and  
> add global stuff that can be used in the templates. If i did this in SS3  
> where would I be able to edit these? Haven't played about so doing that  
> annoying thing of asking before trying but thought I'd ask.
> Top work. The SilverStripe community and team shine once again :)
> Steve
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:31:38 AM UTC, Sam Minnée wrote:I wouldn't  
> want to do anything this major without Felipe's involvement, who's on  
> leave at the moment. For now, Ingo, my inclination would be to trial the  
> smaller change you suggested and see how it plays out.
> If we decide that a UI that takes more dev work is really going to be  
> what improves the interaction, we can consider whether we want to  
> prioritise that over other stuff in the pipeline. It may seem like we're  
> reworking it to death, but it is the single most common interaction and  
> it is worth our attention.
> Ingo - do you want to raise a ticket for your quick fix?
> On 14/03/2012, at 2:10 PM, Sigurd Magnusson wrote:
> I know there was a discussion earlier, eg post alpha2, but from memory  
> this led to us introducing the site tree back in edit-page view.
> This thread is now dealing with the implications of that change --- which  
> a lot of us are now having the first chance to play with.
> Agree we'd hope to avoid major rework, but we do want to ensure we  
> deliver something with a great, intuitive, interface.
> Right now we do have an issue that stops us short of that goal.
> Here's my skitch to show how the Edit Pages / Pages can be integrated:
> https://skitch.com/sigurdmagnusson/8j4ms/screen-shot-2012-03-14-at-1....
> - As you can see, clicking [Manage >>] widens the tree panel to become  
> the existing Edit and Organize system; and when in that mode, clicking a  
> page reverts the tree panel back to the view shown on Skitch.
> - The Filter panel needs to be there.
> - I've left the fate of Content/Settings/History tabs as a question mark,  
> as Ingo you've suggested a few ideas and I'm less concerned by how that  
> part is resolved. That said, Felipe's link you posted at  
> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-design/blob/master/Desig...  
> does seem like a very clean and logical interface for shifting those  
> items to top right.
> - The result is we only need 'Pages' on the main left hand menu, and  
> lose 'Edit Page' as a top level menu item.
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