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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:43:10 +1300
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Subject: Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: File manager interface
From: Hamish Friedlander <ham...@silverstripe.com>
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Possibly silly thought - what about getting rid of folders entirely and
using tags instead? Put a cloud tag on the side where the "folders" view is
currently. This is how sites like flickr deal with organising images, yeah?

Advantages: Images can be in more than one tag. You can select more than one
tag at a time to build a dynamic filter. Easy to set on the upload screen,
both for all uploaded files & per file.

Disadvantages: People are used to the folder concept, less used to tagging.
Especially current SS2.4 users.

We could expand the idea to include other filters on the left side - size
("thumbnails", "small", "large" or custom like "sidebar", "main attract"),
date uploaded, aspect ratio, type (video, image), etc.

Hamish Friedlander
SilverStripe

On 4 March 2011 14:03, Hamish Campbell <hn.campb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All looks awesome, an I really like the idea of sets, but could you
> clarify:
>
> On Mar 4, 10:33 am, Felipe <felipeskro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...for now the idea is not having nested folders and
> > create a tree manager out of it...
>
> Are sets the same as folders?
>
> As others have said, nested folders are pretty important when you've
> got lots of documents to organise (I've got a site with nearly 10,000
> pdfs, for example). Users quite often like to have their own folders
> for some uploads. Typically you might have a folder "UsersFiles" with
> their sub folders inside as a natural tree structure. It's also a
> security dilemma when you want fine grained security permissions for
> file assets (plug: Secure Files module).
>
> I don't think it necessarily needs a tree view interface though.
> Perhaps when opening the folder view the Folder bar changes to show
> sub folders (and an 'Up' button), or sub folders pop to a new bar to
> the right of the Folder bar.
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Possibly silly thought - what about getting rid of folders entirely and usi=
ng tags instead? Put a cloud tag on the side where the &quot;folders&quot; =
view is currently. This is how sites like flickr deal with organising image=
s, yeah?=A0<div>
<br></div><div>Advantages: Images can be in more than one tag. You can sele=
ct more than one tag at a time to build a dynamic filter. Easy to set on th=
e upload screen, both for all uploaded files &amp; per file.</div><div>
<br></div><div>Disadvantages: People are used to the folder concept, less u=
sed to tagging. Especially current SS2.4 users.</div><div><br></div><div>We=
 could expand the idea to include other filters on the left side - size (&q=
uot;thumbnails&quot;, &quot;small&quot;, &quot;large&quot; or custom like &=
quot;sidebar&quot;, &quot;main attract&quot;), date uploaded, aspect ratio,=
 type (video, image), etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hamish Friedlander</div><div>SilverStripe<br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On 4 March 2011 14:03, Hamish Campbell <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hn.campb...@gmail.com">hn.campb...@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">All looks awesome, an I really like the ide=
a of sets, but could you<br>
clarify:<br>
<br>
On Mar 4, 10:33=A0am, Felipe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:felipeskro...@gmail.com"=
>felipeskro...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; ...for now the idea is not having nested folders and<br>
&gt; create a tree manager out of it...<br>
<br>
Are sets the same as folders?<br>
<br>
As others have said, nested folders are pretty important when you&#39;ve<br=
>
got lots of documents to organise (I&#39;ve got a site with nearly 10,000<b=
r>
pdfs, for example). Users quite often like to have their own folders<br>
for some uploads. Typically you might have a folder &quot;UsersFiles&quot; =
with<br>
their sub folders inside as a natural tree structure. It&#39;s also a<br>
security dilemma when you want fine grained security permissions for<br>
file assets (plug: Secure Files module).<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t think it necessarily needs a tree view interface though.<br>
Perhaps when opening the folder view the Folder bar changes to show<br>
sub folders (and an &#39;Up&#39; button), or sub folders pop to a new bar t=
o<br>
the right of the Folder bar.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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