To me it seems good. Might take a crack at it. Only problem is which
business to point it at :D
> You get a loan of up to 20k. The conditions seem fairly lax, with the
> biggest stumbling block being your age (ie, 30 and under).
> (hat tip to the switched on @Mister_Black who just notified me)
>
> I've got mixed thoughts.
> - 20k is literally startup costs, so you need to be very careful. Need a lot
> of focus on how you spend it.
Sure, but true of any loan.
> - 20k is perfect for a loan. It's not a massive amount, that will send you
> broke if you fail.
Indeed.
> - 20k is something I could raise from family, friends and myself with easier
> terms. I could sell my car and get that - why would I commit to a bank loan
> of only that amount, if I was that serious in starting a business?
I could raise >20k selling my house, but I'm not going to. I need
somewhere to live. I need a way to travel, so I won't sell my car
(probably). You shouldn't need to give up your life to start a
business; and there is no way I could raise anywhere near 20k from
family or friends. You must have rich ones :)
> - Perhaps the real benefit is the terms on the loan, but I am not sure that
> they are that much better than a business loan
Seems better to me, in that they aren't asking for 2 years history.
> At startup weekend, we had several team products in 24 hours with minimal
> costs. Some of the products where bench marked against other efforts that
> individuals had been involved in (like iPhone apps) and the weekend beat it
> by months (and naturally cheaper if you measure opportunity cost).
>
> Thought I'd put it out there and get people's thoughts. I want to find
> solutions to building entrepreneurialism in the Aussie Internet sector, and
> questioning these things helps me understand what we really need for silicon
> beach.
>
> --
> Elias Bizannes
> http://liako.biz
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Well it's certainly a (IMHO) sad fact of business that an 'easier' way
to be successfully is not to have a good idea necessarily, or even be
a hard worker, but to be around people who can help you commercialise
it. Money and connections go a long way. Specially when money gets you
smart employees.
It suggests that if you want to be in "business", you should not
exactly be working on your application/system/device but out at
parties, meeting people, etc.
From that point of view I don't consider myself anything like a
"businessman" more like "a working guy who wants your money" :D
Bothers me a bit, but that's the way it is.
> It seems like everything goes back to building a strong community that
> supports each others. More alchohol is what we need, not VC's.
Indeed.