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  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo</id>
  <title type="text">ShowMeDo Google Group</title>
  <subtitle type="text">
  Open discussion for ShowMeDo&#39;s tutorial videos. * What are we getting right and wrong? * What needs improving? * How you could help us spread-the-word? * What sort of videos do you want to see? * Would you like to make your own videos? Ian and Kyran (founders)
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  <updated>2009-12-30T23:37:11Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rob@stonecircletech.com</name>
  <email>rmarche...@stonecircletech.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-30T23:37:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/d6ff5935247a28c8?show_docid=d6ff5935247a28c8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/d6ff5935247a28c8?show_docid=d6ff5935247a28c8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Some other great IDE&#39;s</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Not a problem it&#39;s definitely a great tool to add to one&#39;s toolbag! &lt;br&gt; Enjoy &lt;br&gt; Cheers; &lt;br&gt; Rob &lt;br&gt; Sent from Rob&#39;s IPhone &lt;br&gt; Thank you for the tip on Pyscripter, it&#39;s very impressive and more &lt;br&gt; intuitive compared to eclipse. Also it takes up about half the amount &lt;br&gt; of memory compared to eclipse and a whole lot fast. Removing eclipse
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Rogers</name>
  <email>droge...@rochester.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-30T21:12:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/0838ea9b9b25c450?show_docid=0838ea9b9b25c450</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/0838ea9b9b25c450?show_docid=0838ea9b9b25c450"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Some other great IDE&#39;s</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Thank you for the tip on Pyscripter, it&#39;s very impressive and more &lt;br&gt; intuitive compared to eclipse. Also it takes up about half the amount &lt;br&gt; of memory compared to eclipse and a whole lot fast. Removing eclipse &lt;br&gt; from the system and I&#39;ll play with it for a while and than try out &lt;br&gt; wing IDE.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <email>rmarche...@stonecircletech.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-30T16:06:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/9aa509ada48c6836?show_docid=9aa509ada48c6836</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/9aa509ada48c6836?show_docid=9aa509ada48c6836"/>
  <title type="text">Some other great IDE&#39;s</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hello, &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; Just to add my experience on this subject : I found the PyScripter the best non commercial IDE. Has intellisense and debugging built-in.  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/pyscripter/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; By far the best I have tried: &lt;br&gt;       *Free* &lt;br&gt;       Portable &lt;br&gt;       Ctrl+scroll moves fast around code!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Rogers</name>
  <email>droge...@rochester.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-30T01:13:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/af1390a4df1002ac?show_docid=af1390a4df1002ac</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/af1390a4df1002ac?show_docid=af1390a4df1002ac"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  From what I have experienced the larger the project the more need for &lt;br&gt; a heavy weight IDE. It saves you time and therefore the company money &lt;br&gt; when you need to quickly navigate through a large project. I last &lt;br&gt; project I was part of at work we had more than 500 source files using &lt;br&gt; MS visual studio, nunit and C# (I was in a software testing group). I
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Rogers</name>
  <email>droge...@rochester.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-30T00:30:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/db4be56099288cc5/2e5917ca0826e51b?show_docid=2e5917ca0826e51b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/db4be56099288cc5/2e5917ca0826e51b?show_docid=2e5917ca0826e51b"/>
  <title type="text">Suggested video</title>
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  I just finished watching two great series, the image viewer and the &lt;br&gt; csvReader. Learned a lot from them and hungry for more. What would &lt;br&gt; put iceing on the cake for me would be three more sections to those &lt;br&gt; series. &lt;br&gt; 1. Using py2exe or something like it so someone can run the app on a &lt;br&gt; non python box. &lt;br&gt; 2. Using Nsis or some other package to create a msi file some its easy
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kyran Dale</name>
  <email>kyran.d...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-29T22:16:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/ba3c88a68665bb8d/fca7253c2fae665c?show_docid=fca7253c2fae665c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/ba3c88a68665bb8d/fca7253c2fae665c?show_docid=fca7253c2fae665c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: how long does it take to approove the series?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  2009/12/29 Jurgis Pralgauskis &amp;lt;jurgis.pralgaus...@gmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; very sorry Jurgis, &lt;br&gt; we&#39;ve been having a huge spam-video problem recently, which I needed some &lt;br&gt; time to work on. As a result I used a crude filter on the video-series and &lt;br&gt; yours got caught. Will publish right away, and apologies again. &lt;br&gt; kyran
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jurgis Pralgauskis</name>
  <email>jurgis.pralgaus...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-29T20:06:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/ba3c88a68665bb8d/69fef95e0b28af5c?show_docid=69fef95e0b28af5c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/ba3c88a68665bb8d/69fef95e0b28af5c?show_docid=69fef95e0b28af5c"/>
  <title type="text">how long does it take to approove the series?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hello, &lt;br&gt; I put up two screencasts in a series ~2 weeks ago, and it still writes &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;COMING SOON!&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; how long could it take? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/series?name=Fgc2R7MoB&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; (videos are in my native language Lithuanian)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tim Bower</name>
  <email>woodshop...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-28T21:01:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/11959a000e5edb34?show_docid=11959a000e5edb34</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/11959a000e5edb34?show_docid=11959a000e5edb34"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I&#39;m with both Kyran and Ian. I&#39;ve used vim / gvim quite a bit for &lt;br&gt; Python development and it works great for programming, especially with &lt;br&gt; a Unix / Linux system. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m now in the beginning phases of a new and exciting project that &lt;br&gt; will have me doing more Python programming, so I recently bought a &lt;br&gt; copy Wing Pro and love it. All of it&#39;s features do seem a bit busy,
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jurgis Pralgauskis</name>
  <email>jurgis.pralgaus...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-28T10:16:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/e43a70fb585b5311?show_docid=e43a70fb585b5311</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/e43a70fb585b5311?show_docid=e43a70fb585b5311"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  You may also take a look at &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.geany.org/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; (I use it on ubuntu) &lt;br&gt; it&#39;s very fast, has autocompletion and code browser, but doesn&#39;t &lt;br&gt; support debugging. &lt;br&gt; somewhat reminds of notepad++. &lt;br&gt; For debugging I use &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; (seems like &lt;br&gt; bloated and lazy IDE), &lt;br&gt; Neatbeans also have python plugin &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://netbeans.org/features/python&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kyran Dale</name>
  <email>kyran.d...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-27T19:11:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/9fb1d4446497ba6f?show_docid=9fb1d4446497ba6f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/9fb1d4446497ba6f?show_docid=9fb1d4446497ba6f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
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  2009/12/27 David Rogers &amp;lt;droge...@rochester.rr.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; You can get pretty far just using VIMs built-in string completion on &lt;br&gt; open-buffers, file-systems and the like. This works pretty well for me: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1542&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; just stick this in your .vimrc to engage: &lt;br&gt; autocmd FileType python set omnifunc=pythoncomplete#Comple te
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Rogers</name>
  <email>droge...@rochester.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-27T18:59:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/a031e5e3c356c625?show_docid=a031e5e3c356c625</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/a031e5e3c356c625?show_docid=a031e5e3c356c625"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Ian, I agree with you 100%. I was using Visual Studio for about 5 yrs &lt;br&gt; doing unit testing with C#. &lt;br&gt; When my job changed and didn&#39;t have studio I had to &amp;quot;re-learn vim&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; again. Even now I need &lt;br&gt; to look-up a lot of vim magic. If you put a dollar value to it, if an &lt;br&gt; IDE saves you a couple of hours &lt;br&gt; a month. WingIDE would be paid for in two months and saving your
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ian Ozsvald</name>
  <email>i...@thescreencastinghandbook.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-27T18:19:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/b8c5fb69555c9d07?show_docid=b8c5fb69555c9d07</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/b8c5fb69555c9d07?show_docid=b8c5fb69555c9d07"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  WingIDE handles most language types just fine, I&#39;ve done C++, html, php and &lt;br&gt; Python just fine. But...it is yet-another-IDE-to-learn as you say. &lt;br&gt; On the flip side you (Kyran) know well that my fear about learning vi(m) or &lt;br&gt; another cmd-line based system is that I have to keep using it to remember &lt;br&gt; how to do everything. The joy of WingIDE is that I can pick it up every 6
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Rogers</name>
  <email>droge...@rochester.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-27T18:18:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/254b55f16805bfdf?show_docid=254b55f16805bfdf</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/254b55f16805bfdf?show_docid=254b55f16805bfdf"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  What plug-ins for VIM do you use and what addtions to .vimrc? I use &lt;br&gt; cygwin, vim and gvim all the time but never thought of looking for a &lt;br&gt; python code completion plugin. For &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; development I use taglist and &lt;br&gt; ctags. &lt;br&gt; Dave Rogers &lt;br&gt; PS. back to viewing more showmedo python videos, they are great!
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kyran Dale</name>
  <email>kyran.d...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-27T16:22:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/0b867899b591d84c?show_docid=0b867899b591d84c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/0b867899b591d84c?show_docid=0b867899b591d84c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Just to offer an alternative perspective, I&#39;m still not convinced that most &lt;br&gt; Python programming needs an IDE. For me one of the advantages of a dynamic &lt;br&gt; language, and scripting languages in general, is speed and ease of &lt;br&gt; development. Most everything I can imagine wanting in a development &lt;br&gt; environment can be accomplished with a decent editor (VIM in my case) and a
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Gary Frederick</name>
  <email>gary.freder...@jsoft.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-27T12:30:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/4f060784b07ee807?show_docid=4f060784b07ee807</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/showmedo/browse_frm/thread/f1e5f2363d7c4bf7/4f060784b07ee807?show_docid=4f060784b07ee807"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pydev or WingIDE</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I have used PyDev. It requires Eclipse which is a mixed blessing. Eclipse &lt;br&gt; does a LOT more (feature bloat or kitchen sink - it is one tool that does &lt;br&gt; all?) than PyDev, but is not as easy to use as I would like. (probably needs &lt;br&gt; a screencast or 50 ;-) &lt;br&gt; I did a bit with Komodo. It is very good, but the project I was using it on
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