Flash & H.264 playlists using the Jeroen Wijering media player

[Michael Verdi]

Hey ya'll,
I had to figure this out for work yesterday and I thought I'd document
what I learned and pass it along. We wanted something like the blip.tv
Show Player without using blip (not that we don't use blip, just
couldn't for this one purpose). So I read through the documentation on
Jeroen Wijering's site (the blip player is based on his) and set up an
example player using my blip rss feed -
http://graymattergravy.com/playlist/ and another using an XSPF
playlist of H.264 videos -
http://graymattergravy.com/playlist/xspf.html

I commented the html and flashvars that I used and I also commented
the XSPF playlist so it should be easy to recreate.

- Verdi

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[markus sandy]

hey! and it uses swfobject!

nicely done michael

markus

[Milt Lee]

Michael,
let me see if I understand this correctly:

you encode your video - using an h.264 codec ( I'm going to use the QT
pro - I pod codec)

THEN - do you need to change the extention - from .MP4 to .flv or
does the player SEE the .mp4 - even though it's a flash player and
play it?

I love the look -and it if means only one encode - then that's the gig for me!

thanks,
Milt

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[Michael Verdi]

Hey Milt,
For the Jeroen Wijering player you do NOT need to change the extension
to flv. It works with .mov, .mp4 and .m4v (plus others). That being
said, in the playlist examples, it only picks up the flash versions
from the RSS feed. If you want to create a playlist of H.264 videos
you have to make an XSPF list yourself and you have to give the videos
a "type" of flv (documented in the example playlist).

- Verdi

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[J. N. Pereira]

Hi Vlogging People,

Thanks! thats good work you did Michael Verdi, i will check it better
later on.
I would love to find out that GPL FlowPlayer was as advanced as Jeroen
Wijering's one.

And i just found out that Windows Mobile 6.1 oficial, has a new
version of IE Mobile that gets h.264/flash.

http://www.jkontherun.com/2008/04/windows-mobile.html
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx?rss_fdn=Press%20Releases
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/default.mspx

I don't have such a kind of machine so i can't check it out, but i
really don't get it if it is the flash on it that supports h.264 or
they are just catching up on h.264 codec generally.
sounds good either way.

Rgds,
ZN

[Sull]

AbstractParser.as needs mimetype "video/mp4" specified which should let mp4 files work in playlists without the faux type of flv used.

technically, you can also still use RSS feed for h.264 playlists in addition to your xspf example.

 <media:content blip:role="Source" expression="full" fileSize="28122256" isDefault="true" type="video/mp4" url="http://blip.tv/file/get/MichaelVerdi-FlashH264205.mp4"></media:content>

would need to be:

<media:content blip:role="Source" expression="full" fileSize="28122256" isDefault="true" type="video/x-flv" url="http://blip.tv/file/get/MichaelVerdi-FlashH264205.mp4"></media:content>

so, type="video/x-flv" is the fake mime type for rss feeds. 
just mentioning it so people dont think that it will only work for a XSPF feed.

try editing the actionscript and recompiling the player to accept mp4... might be worth it. 

sull

[ryanne hodson]

hey sull

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Sull <sulle...@gmail.com> wrote:

nice demo michael.

tim, jeroen's player with docs and samples have been available forever.
it's still the best flash media player and much much better than
flowplayer.
everyone should get more familiar with it.

just wondering why JW is better than Flowplayer?
is it because of the playlist option?

just curious
i'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of each.

-ryanne








 

however, in regards to playlists, sites like blip should be cool with using
your own feed with your own player but they may have different terms for
using other feeds so check with blip (or whoever) for permission.

as an aside, i recently came across another interesting flash player -
xmoov.com. interesting skinning approach using css or xml. not sure i f
they use SMIL. i asked and the reply sounded like it came form a 14 year
old.

sull

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[Milt Lee]

OK - so jeroen's player is better - that sounds fine to me. BUT I just
updated to the flowplayer. What's the key for using jeroen instead?

Thanks,
Milt

> >
> > tim, jeroen's player with docs and samples have been available forever.
> > it's still the best flash media player and much much better than
> > flowplayer.
> > everyone should get more familiar with it.
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[ryanne hodson]

using JW player is very similar
except you make the parameters match this
see my attached screenshot

i think that's it

[Sull]

hey,

i mean to say.... it's better architecturally.  this could be deemed an opinion ;)
and yes, it's playlist support is important factor as is the entire range of features.
it also has a great javascript API.
for developers, it's great and can be extended easily.
for users who just want to simply show a video with a flash player without much concern about all the rest, then you could basically use any flash player including flowplayer of course. 
the fact that most to all big video sites started with and extended the JW player sais alot too.

sull

[Sull]

04/02/2008, api

We have decided to stop working on the Flowplayer AdServer project and to concentrate on the player instead. We want to make the best possible video player and direct all our resources to the player development.

We have ambitious plans for the new Flowplayer 3 that is scheduled to go out later this year. The player will be completely rewritten and there will be extensive JavaScript libraries to help in extending and scripting the core player. To make this all happen we need to focus our resources - There are two core developers now working on this project.

This does not mean that Flowplayer will not support video advertising. Quite the opposite - Our goal is that the player will be compatible with different advertising networks and platforms. But we will not build our own video advertising platform and publisher/advertiser network like we announced a while back.

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