No Email

[Teresa]

FYI, my work email pst file is apparently corrupted so I cannot get
email at City Hall for the time being. I am posting this via the
webpage. -Teresa

[Teresa]

Still no email. The problem is that my Outlook pst file grew to over
2 GB because I didn't want to delete emails other than junk due to FOI
considerations. Apparently at 2 GB the pst file turns into a pumpkin
and is useless. The IT department has run several recovery attempts
and has been unsuccessful so far but is still working at it. The
backup file is also corrupt.

If anyone needs to contact me, you'll have to either call, or email
via the google group or my home email.

[Tom Harbinson - Personal]

You have GOT to be kidding me!!  How lame is that?

 

City should switch to google apps.  It is $50 per user per year, requires no servers on site to maintain, allows storage of 25GB of data per user, would include mail-calendar-document-website creation, allows access from off-site, includes mobile device access, and meets all federal standards for message retention regulations via Google's Postini service.  Future computer purchases would not require the full suite of MSOffice products, and you could get by with netbook computers that simply have access to the internet.

 

I've been using google apps for 2yrs now with no issues.  Just so painful to watch how the public sector is so backwards.

 

Point Dan or other City decision makers on this subject toward this:

http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/government/index.html

[McCreery, Edward P.]

With FOIA rules on document retention I am not sure that would run afoul of th rules if your docs are in cyberspace not under your direct control. The laws are usually twenty years plus behind reality.

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From: shel...@googlegroups.com <shel...@googlegroups.com>
To: shel...@googlegroups.com <shel...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue Nov 03 14:22:09 2009
Subject: SheltonCC Re: No Email

[Tom Harbinson - Personal]

20yrs retention of electronic formats? That can be dangerous. When was the last time you saw a 5 1/4" floppy drive?

 

Not sure on what govt requires in CT for FOI retention, but many govt bodies are jumping into it.

Even the federal agency level of certification is coming:

http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/09/google-apps-and-government.html

 

The future is definately not relying on a server computer stored in some City Hall office that can burn out.  It's having data mirrored across several servers scattered around the country (cloud computing) that can be accessed from anytime and anywhere.  Hurricane or Tornado wipes out City Hall - ground to a halt.

Fire or sprinkler system douses City Hall - ground to a halt.

 

I've been involved in bidding on the new NYC 911 call center, and it's given me a whole new lesson in redundancy.  Google Apps provides that surety over the current state.  All the convincing it took for me was one internal mail server hard drive to go down, and the subsequent all-nighter trying to get things corrected with a service call to some guy with a strong accent in a non-USA location.  Done with that!

[McCreery, Edward P.]

Each of our 3 main offices backs up in the other 2 and off site. 

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From: shel...@googlegroups.com [mailto:shel...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Harbinson - Personal
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:46 PM
To: shel...@googlegroups.com

[McCreery, Edward P.]

Sorry - I did not say the law requires a 20 year retention.  What I said is the laws are usually 20 years behind the times.  For example, a lot of Ct's banking laws assume it is still 1950 and you are dealing with a brick & mortar hometown bank on Main Street USA where you have to walk in to do your banking.  Ha.

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From: shel...@googlegroups.com [mailto:shel...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Harbinson - Personal
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:46 PM
To: shel...@googlegroups.com

[Tom Harbinson - Personal]

Ahh, gotya on the clarify.  I dropped my brk+mrtr bank 10yrs ago for etrade.  What's more impactful is newspapers not catching on that the internet has changed their game.  Freedom of the press is to precious to flounder under market conditions where owners don't adopt to changing times, but now we're getting off CC topic.

 

If memory serves me, your firm uses Postini for your backups - and Postini happens to be a google service.

[McCreery, Edward P.]

We recently switched from Postini to Mimecast.  Only the IT people would know why.   They told me once but there was no need to tie up what few brain cells I have left with that data.

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From: shel...@googlegroups.com [mailto:shel...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Harbinson - Personal

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:31 PM

[Teresa G]

So what happens to all your data if Google suddenly and without
warning goes bankrupt and turns all the servers off one day? Not that
a huge corporation could ever go bankrupt, ha ha.

On Nov 3, 2:22 pm, Tom Harbinson - Personal

<thomas.harbin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You have GOT to be kidding me!!  How lame is that?
>
> City should switch to google apps.  It is $50 per user per year, requires no
> servers on site to maintain, allows storage of 25GB of data per user, would
> include mail-calendar-document-website creation, allows access from
> off-site, includes mobile device access, and meets all federal standards for
> message retention regulations via Google's Postini service.  Future computer
> purchases would not require the full suite of MSOffice products, and you
> could get by with netbook computers that simply have access to the internet.
>
> I've been using google apps for 2yrs now with no issues.  Just so painful to
> watch how the public sector is so backwards.
>
> Point Dan or other City decision makers on this subject toward this:http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/government/index.html
>

[thomas.h...@gmail.com]

Haven't we all by now learned the term "to big to fail"?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Teresa G <shelto...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:39:18
To: Shelton Conservation Commission<shel...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: SheltonCC Re: No Email

[Teresa Gallagher]

Well, I have email now but don't have any of my old messages. I don't know
if they're still working on that or if everything is just lost.

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Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:04 PM
To: Shelton Conservation Commission
Subject: SheltonCC Re: No Email

[Teresa Gallagher]

The property at Chordas Pond was acquired by the City from L'Hermitage
Development Inc. on October 28, 2009 according to a Certificate of
Foreclosure. There were twelve liens on the property.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:04 PM
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[thomas.h...@gmail.com]

Thx. Acreage apx?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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[Teresa Gallagher]

1.6 acres

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