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Simon Ford

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Jun 1, 2009, 7:35:11 AM6/1/09
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Anyone remember this idea from a previous SHDC discussion?!

http://yourfamily.o2.co.uk/o2familyjoggler

Simon

Jonathan Austin

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Jun 1, 2009, 1:32:55 PM6/1/09
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I do! Nice to see the idea (semi) vindicated...

Check out the Verizon Hub http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/vzhub/overview.jsp. Similar idea...

Dan Ros

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Jun 1, 2009, 3:42:51 PM6/1/09
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Jonathan Austin <j.m.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do! Nice to see the idea (semi) vindicated...
>
> Check out the Verizon Hub
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/vzhub/overview.jsp. Similar idea...
>
<rant>

As I was saying to Simon today, both devices seem to be massively
overcomplicated. This line from the verizon blurb says it all:

A Fresh Way to Stay Informed
Use V CAST to watch video on your home phone.

Is it just me, or is that an absurd suggestion? I can't imagine
anything i'd rather do less than watch video on a wired landline
telephone.

Surely you'd want something extremely simple, with a calendar on one
half of the screen, and a free scribbling area on the other half. No
news and sport, no games, no music player. Just an electronic
whiteboard with calendar, which allows you to view the contents of the
whiteboard from any web browser. Oh, also the size should be about the
same as a 17" screen, wall-mounted.

</rant>

Jonathan Austin

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Jun 1, 2009, 4:42:48 PM6/1/09
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You just described my 4th yr project :)  Bizarrely accurately

While we're on cool things

Simon

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Jun 3, 2009, 2:49:56 AM6/3/09
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> > > I do! Nice to see the idea (semi) vindicated...
>
> > > Check out the Verizon Hub
> > >http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/vzhub/overview.jsp. Similar idea...

Howsabout this for a product: An OEM wifi touchscreen lcd that is just
a browser pane that loads from a url, with absolutely no purpose.

Then, web2.0 company X sell it (perhaps even rebadge it) as their
product with the configured url (i.e. service).

Then of course, over time with an install base, other co's could
spring up with other services to add on, but that isn't the main focus
("appstore" if you want to get marketroids singing!)

And i've got another little hardware feature trick up my sleeve which
i think could make this very unique/enable new things. But i'll save
that for a SHDC discussion :)

Simon

Simon

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Jun 3, 2009, 3:07:23 AM6/3/09
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> Howsabout this for a product: An OEM wifi touchscreen lcd that is just
> a browser pane that loads from a url, with absolutely no purpose.

Anyone want to join in on an order for this?:

http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/sailingdigital/product-detailtbSmGuKTJPVM/China-Ipadpc-10-2-WiFi-Touch-Screen-Digital-Photo-Frame-SP-1021W-.html

only need another 9,999 people to want one (this month!)

I'm sure there must be some good ones about we can take over and get a
basic linux distro running on. Or some place we can find cheap
touchscreen lcds and attach it to a SBC to make one. Pointers welcome!

Simon

Henry Gomersall

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Jun 3, 2009, 3:59:43 AM6/3/09
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On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 00:07 -0700, Simon wrote:
> Anyone want to join in on an order for this?:
>
> http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/sailingdigital/product-detailtbSmGuKTJPVM/China-Ipadpc-10-2-WiFi-Touch-Screen-Digital-Photo-Frame-SP-1021W-.html
>

Do you have to buy 10,000 or is it that that's the maximum production
they can achieve?

Looks pretty cool.

Although the n800 is a bit small, I'm sure it could be played with for
proof of concept (and you already have one!).

Henry

Henry Gomersall

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Jun 3, 2009, 4:04:05 AM6/3/09
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On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 00:07 -0700, Simon wrote:
> I'm sure there must be some good ones about we can take over and get a
> basic linux distro running on. Or some place we can find cheap
> touchscreen lcds and attach it to a SBC to make one. Pointers welcome!

Just as I was sending the last email, I looked down and noticed an email
from Chumby.

http://www.chumby.com/

They have (full?) hardware specs on the site for customisation. It was
designed from the outside for hacking on.

Cheers,

hen

Simon

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Jun 3, 2009, 4:34:37 AM6/3/09
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> Just as I was sending the last email, I looked down and noticed an email
> from Chumby.
>
> http://www.chumby.com/
>
> They have (full?) hardware specs on the site for customisation. It was
> designed from the outside for hacking on.

And more interestingly, they've just announced a photo frame
version :)

http://hackaday.com/2009/01/20/chumby-digital-picture-frame-teardown/

Simon

James Greenwood

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Jun 3, 2009, 4:37:01 AM6/3/09
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But how difficult is it to create your own touch-screen controller on
top of a cheap or old TFT? I have a 386 laptop that I was banging on
about to Simon, it's silent, passively cooled, quite compact – I'm
adamant that even with it's limited capibilites there must be a use
for it. Or even just an old Pentium laptop stripped down. Surely you
could recreate this in a more hackfest stylee?

Henry Gomersall

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Jun 3, 2009, 5:03:04 AM6/3/09
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On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:37 +0100, James Greenwood wrote:
> I have a 386 laptop that I was banging on
> about to Simon, it's silent, passively cooled, quite compact

wow, a 386. I remember those. What could they do again?

hen

Dan Ros

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Jun 3, 2009, 5:06:02 AM6/3/09
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I have a pair of very nice Toughbook T1 touchscreen P3 laptops . But
no, I'm not allowed to rip them apart :(

James Greenwood

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Jun 3, 2009, 5:20:55 AM6/3/09
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2009/6/3 Henry Gomersall <wh...@cam.ac.uk>:

> wow, a 386. I remember those. What could they do again?
>
> hen

Actually, I lied! It is a 486 DX-2 50 MHz beast of a laptop. Tthis one
unfortunately is limited to a 800 x 600 resolution in 256 colours on
the VGA output, so that kind of limits its tasks quite considerably if
it was to be at all visually/graphically oriented. I was thinking a
silent, standalone torrent server but even that is very difficult with
4 MiB of RAM!

2009/6/3 Dan Ros <ivi...@gmail.com>:


>
> I have a pair of very nice Toughbook T1 touchscreen P3 laptops . But
> no, I'm not allowed to rip them apart :(
>

Damn, well – if anyone has an old P1-type laptop that can output a
sizeable resolution and bit depth to its VGA, is small/silent, has a
reasonable amount of power and RAM, and doesn't mind ripping it up for
the sake of hacking... :)

Henry Gomersall

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Jun 3, 2009, 5:24:08 AM6/3/09
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On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:20 +0100, James Greenwood wrote:
> Damn, well – if anyone has an old P1-type laptop that can output a
> sizeable resolution and bit depth to its VGA, is small/silent, has a
> reasonable amount of power and RAM, and doesn't mind ripping it up for
> the sake of hacking... :)
>
This is crazy talk. Surely something like the mbed is much more
powerful!

hen

Tim Thornton

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Jun 3, 2009, 5:58:02 AM6/3/09
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On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Simon <simon....@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > > I do! Nice to see the idea (semi) vindicated...
>
> > > Check out the Verizon Hub
> > >http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/vzhub/overview.jsp. Similar idea...

Howsabout this for a product: An OEM wifi touchscreen lcd that is just
a browser pane that loads from a url, with absolutely no purpose.

Then, web2.0 company X sell it (perhaps even rebadge it) as their
product with the configured url (i.e. service).

Then of course, over time with an install base, other co's could
spring up with other services to add on, but that isn't the main focus
("appstore" if you want to get marketroids singing!)
With impeccible timing, the BONDI specs (cross platform widgetry) were released an hour ago:
 
Tim

Jonathan Austin

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Jun 3, 2009, 6:04:24 AM6/3/09
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I have that old P3 that I bought to SHDC a few times - with a CF card instead of a disk it'd be completely silent, and has a nice Sharp display... good viewing angles for a laptop of its age :)

That can be ripped up too.
 

James Greenwood

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Jun 3, 2009, 6:40:36 AM6/3/09
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2009/6/3 Henry Gomersall <wh...@cam.ac.uk>:

> This is crazy talk. Surely something like the mbed is much more
> powerful!

True, but it's the pure satisfaction of repurposing/reusing otherwise
totally defunct old hardware.

2009/6/3 Jonathan Austin <j.m.a...@gmail.com>:


>
> I have that old P3 that I bought to SHDC a few times - with a CF card
> instead of a disk it'd be completely silent, and has a nice Sharp display...
> good viewing angles for a laptop of its age :)
>
> That can be ripped up too.
>

Awesome! There's surely something creative we can hack it into...

Henry Gomersall

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Jun 4, 2009, 8:00:13 AM6/4/09
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On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 00:07 -0700, Simon wrote:
> > Howsabout this for a product: An OEM wifi touchscreen lcd that is
> just
> > a browser pane that loads from a url, with absolutely no purpose.

Just found out about this...

http://www.watterott.com/micro2440-with-SDK-and-7-Color-LCD-Touch-Panel

Jonathan Austin

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Jun 4, 2009, 3:10:06 PM6/4/09
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Henry Gomersall <wh...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 00:07 -0700, Simon wrote:
> > Howsabout this for a product: An OEM wifi touchscreen lcd that is
> just
> > a browser pane that loads from a url, with absolutely no purpose.

Simon

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Jun 4, 2009, 3:58:57 PM6/4/09
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> http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/first-working-crunchpad-prototypes...
>
> ?

Yeah, that'd do it!

nothing about my secret special sauce idea. might have to have a go at
building that on sat. btw, anyone know much about openID? (not
related, honest :P)

Simon

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