Removed dependency on installed ASP.NET MVC Beta

[Billy]

The Northwind example and Visual Studio project template no longer
depend on ASP.NET MVC Beta being installed on your development
machine. I.e., you can create and develop a project just fine without
installing the ASP.NET Beta. The drawback is that you won't have the
Microsoft-provided ASP.NET MVC item templates available. (But a
solution for even this conundrum is at
http://dylanbeattie.blogspot.com/2008/11/working-on-aspnet-mvc-beta-and-preview.html.)

The source and project template at
https://sharp-architecture.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TemplatesAndCodeGen/VisualStudioTemplates
have been updated to reflect this change. As the hillbilly eloquently
described at http://codebetter.com/blogs/kyle.baley/archive/2008/12/12/asp-net-mvc-and-the-gaaak.aspx,
the surprisingly ridiculously simple solution was to open the .csproj
file in a text editor and remove "{603c0e0b-db56-11dc-
be95-000d561079b0};" from the list of ProjectTypeGUIDs at the top.

Billy

[Kyle Baley]

Thanks Billy. I have a related question that doesn't have anything to do with S#arp. If you remove the assemblies from the GAC, will the MVC templates still work?

[Billy]

My (almost positive) guess is that this would not have any impact on
the availability and use of Microsoft provided ASP.NET MVC item
templates - but I have not confirmed this. ;)

Billy

On Dec 13, 11:02 am, "Kyle Baley" <k...@baley.org> wrote:
> Thanks Billy. I have a related question that doesn't have anything to do
> with S#arp. If you remove the assemblies from the GAC, will the MVC
> templates still work?
>

> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Billy <googlegro...@emccafferty.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > The Northwind example and Visual Studio project template no longer
> > depend on ASP.NET MVC Beta being installed on your development
> > machine.  I.e., you can create and develop a project just fine without
> > installing the ASP.NET Beta.  The drawback is that you won't have the
> > Microsoft-provided ASP.NET MVC item templates available.  (But a
> > solution for even this conundrum is at
>

> >http://dylanbeattie.blogspot.com/2008/11/working-on-aspnet-mvc-beta-a...
> > .)

>
> > The source and project template at
>

> >https://sharp-architecture.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TemplatesAndCodeG...

> > have been updated to reflect this change.  As the hillbilly eloquently
> > described at

> >http://codebetter.com/blogs/kyle.baley/archive/2008/12/12/asp-net-mvc...
> > ,

[Kyle Baley]

Suppose I could check myself. The reason I ask is: how would the templates know where to find the assemblies to reference them in the web project?

[Billy]

Only one way to find out. ;)

On Dec 13, 11:35 am, "Kyle Baley" <k...@baley.org> wrote:
> Suppose I could check myself. The reason I ask is: how would the templates
> know where to find the assemblies to reference them in the web project?
>

[Billy]

I just noticed a major drawback to removing {603c0e0b-db56-11dc-
be95-000d561079b0}; from the project GUIDs list in the csproj. You
lose all of the Microsoft MVC templates for the web project even if
ASP.NET MVC is installed. This seems to be a bit of a catch 22 unless
there's a way to enable MVC item templates for a project which doesn't
have the MVC GUID in its project file. Anybody know of a way to do
this?

Billy

[Kyle Baley]

That's a bit of a bummer. That said, I've been able to get along without the item templates pretty easily. Do they do anything other than derive from ViewPage instead of View?

[Billy]

Heh, good point...they are pretty useless when I come to think about
it. ;)

Billy

On Dec 17, 1:18 pm, "Kyle Baley" <k...@baley.org> wrote:
> That's a bit of a bummer. That said, I've been able to get along without the
> item templates pretty easily. Do they do anything other than derive from
> ViewPage instead of View?
>

> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Billy <googlegro...@emccafferty.com> wrote:
>
> > I just noticed a major drawback to removing {603c0e0b-db56-11dc-
> > be95-000d561079b0}; from the project GUIDs list in the csproj.  You
> > lose all of the Microsoft MVC templates for the web project even if

> > ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> MVC is installed.  This seems to be a bit of a

> > catch 22 unless
> > there's a way to enable MVC item templates for a project which doesn't
> > have the MVC GUID in its project file.  Anybody know of a way to do
> > this?
>
> > Billy
>
> > On Dec 13, 11:45 am, Billy <googlegro...@emccafferty.com> wrote:
> > > Only one way to find out. ;)
>
> > > On Dec 13, 11:35 am, "Kyle Baley" <k...@baley.org> wrote:
>
> > > > Suppose I could check myself. The reason I ask is: how would the
> > templates
> > > > know where to find the assemblies to reference them in the web project?
>
> > > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Billy <googlegro...@emccafferty.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > My (almost positive) guess is that this would not have any impact on

> > > > > the availability and use of Microsoft provided ASP.NET<http://asp.net/>MVC item

> > > > > templates - but I have not confirmed this.  ;)
>
> > > > > Billy
>
> > > > > On Dec 13, 11:02 am, "Kyle Baley" <k...@baley.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks Billy. I have a related question that doesn't have anything
> > to do
> > > > > > with S#arp. If you remove the assemblies from the GAC, will the MVC
> > > > > > templates still work?
>
> > > > > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Billy <
> > googlegro...@emccafferty.com
> > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The Northwind example and Visual Studio project template no
> > longer

> > > > > > > depend on ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> MVC Beta being installed on

> > your development
> > > > > > > machine.  I.e., you can create and develop a project just fine
> > without

> > > > > > > installing the ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> Beta.  The drawback is

> > that you won't have the

> > > > > > > Microsoft-provided ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> MVC item templates

[Alec Whittington]

For those of us using Resharper, we can just make a live file template and use that to insert into the project. I actually have been doing this for a while since the controllers in my project inherit from a base controller. I really don't see this as a problem, maybe an inconvenience for some and it should be pointed out in the documents, but nothing to cry over IMHO.

Cheers
Alec Whittington

[Kyle Baley]

What about the Views? Is it possible to create one with ReSharper? I would imagine the fact that it's two (or three) files would make this nigh on impossible.

 

But now that I think about it, most of the time, my View doesn't even need a code-behind. It can just inherit from ViewPage<T> instead of my own type in the .aspx so a ReSharper template could be possible. A lot of the time, though, my model is a list of something and I am too lazy too look up the funky `[] CLR notation for generic types.

[Alec Whittington]

I complete forgot about the views, but for me not an issue as I use nHaml as the view engine.

Alec Whittington

[Kyle Baley]

As it turns out, this won't be an issue. Starting with RC1, Views won't have a code-behind file by default. And they now allow the standard ViewPage<MyModel> syntax in the Inherits attribute: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/12/19/asp-net-mvc-design-gallery-and-upcoming-view-improvements-with-the-asp-net-mvc-release-candidate.aspx

 

Quite a few new interesting features in RC1, some of which (like the scaffolding) could impact S#arp. Is anyone able to get hold of the bits?

[ema...@bilsimser.com]

I can get them with my MVP secret decoder ring.

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From: "Kyle Baley"
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:35:46 -0500
To: <sharp-arc...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Removed dependency on installed ASP.NET MVC Beta

[Luis Abreu]

Quite a few new interesting features in RC1, some of which (like the
scaffolding) could impact S#arp. Is anyone able to get hold of the bits?

Even if there is, I'm sure they won't be able to tell it to anyone...

Luis

[Kyle Baley]

But it means work could begin non-publicly on transitioning over to it.