Page Rank Confusion

[David Thorpe]

To anyone out there,

I don't know very much about Search Engine Optimization and all of the updates that Google has done to its algorithm.  However, I do know that my website had a Page rank of 4 late last year and I just checked it again and the Page rank is 2.  My rankings haven't really made any major moves, but it kind of bothers me that the Page Rank was decreased.  Can anyone tell me why they think that this might have happened.  My website is www.thorpelawfirm.com  . 

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance

[Jay Bale]

This looks to be an issue with the "fold". The last round of Google updates hit the Fold issue pretty hard.

The Fold refers to how much content is seen, or images, without having to scroll your browser window.

You and so many others have been hit by this.  

Best,

Jay

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[Google Expert Michael Wilson]

Page rank is a gift.... In the beginning google starts to assign it and google is very giving its usually high as we all work hard to get a good pr.... As time passes to keep your gift you need to show google you have made more friends and your gift has been looked after and you have shown google you have worked hard in the community to make more friends as we all know friends come and go and if we don't make new friends all the time we could end up all alone with a crappy pr. 

Get it?

Note: I've seen a pr 1 rank #1 over a pr 6 

Pr and serp ' search engine position' are not exactly tied together 

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[Chris Sinatra]

Jay does the "Fold" issue hurt those or help those with more content on the home page?

Let me know. 

Thanks. 

Chris Sinatra | DrapeStyle.com | 714.957.2588

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If you click on a website and the part of the website you see first either doesn’t have a lot of visible content above-the-fold or dedicates a large fraction of the site’s initial screen real estate to ads, that’s not a very good user experience. Such sites may not rank as highly going forward. That is not really the case with this site.

 

Without doing a site analysis, I would hazard a guess at the site not having regular fresh content and/or the rise in mobility. A higher proportion of surfing is now via mobile devices. This site needs to respond to those devices.

 

Ask your developer to format your site to a responsive web design and include CMS. This will address the mobility and fresh content issues. I am in the process of converting all my sites right now.

 

Good luck.

Ian

[Jay Bale]

Chris,

In Google's last round ( may 22) I saw many sites that had little content in the view-able fold get blown off. Sites that had a lot of text in the view-able fold exploded into top SERPS. Perhaps the most easily seen change Google has ever implemented. Once again, "Content is King" quoting Michael Wilson from about ten years ago... or should we say, "Content placement is King" ?

Jay Bale

[Craig Elie]

Pagerank is not accurate...on purpose.  It's either delayed, or completely false.  google does this on purpose to throw people from gaming the system.  I wouldn't worry about the pagerank itself.

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM, David Thorpe <va...@thorpelawfirm.com> wrote:

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[Rob May]

I wouldn't worry too much about 'PageRank', as its such a small value in the grand scheme of things. 

Work on creating a website that brings people back. Great content, social integration, video, navigation, etc, leading to a great all round experience. 

Don't worry so much about that PageRank feature ;) 

Thanks,

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[Google Expert Michael Wilson]

Heck yes Jay!!! 

That's why we created Wordpress !!!! 

Hint .... Look at most layouts... 

Content is still King 2013

and put it in the Center of the page! 500 words if possible!!!

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[Vineesh Palayad]

Actually PR is a useless evaluating tool. I understand this from my 13 year experience. common people don't know what is PR. they will consider the reference only.

[Google Expert Michael Wilson]

Great advice Rob

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[David Thorpe]

Thank you to everyone out there for all of the information.  I appreciate your time.  Thank you Jay for the Fold information.  Thanks again to everyone for the help I really appreciate your time.  

[David Thorpe]

Thank you to everyone for all of your insight I really appreciate your time.  Thank you also to Jay for the Fold information.  I'm working on that issue right now.  Thanks again everyone

[Hasan Tahsin]

Hello Rob,

What is google hub? If you explain me when I can send you.

Best regards

Hasan

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Subject: Re: Page Rank Confusion

[Rob May]

I believe that the 'Google Hub' is just Michael's SEO Discussion Group inside Google Groups, nothing more. I wouldn't worry about that either. 

PageRank really isn't the key in getting good rankings with Google. It also isn't updated as frequently anymore, and again, is such a small ranking factor.

PageRank might provide some authority down the line (length of time) to Google, but really what you should be focusing on is building a 'community' for your niche or market. Establishing yourself as an authority which provides great information, content, video and images, social sharing as well as complete social media integration. Somewhere people will want to come back to again, and again, talk about with friends and social networks, etc, 

That really is your ultimate focus :) 

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[Reg Charie]

Your drop in PR is probably due to your shotgun approach to link building.

Just a quick look in MajesticSEO in the backlinks section shows that most of your top backlinks have no relevance whatsoever.

If you have been following the SEO news about Google's updates then you know that Penguin version 2 has hit and it targets non-relevant links and removes their influence on your PageRank. IF enough are found, it *can* hit you with a position penalty.

This being said, PR has little effect on search results as Google has switched to considering relevance of more importance than links.

This means your on-page content has assumed a much higher value and presentation has considerable effect.

Looking at your primary keyword phrase Tampa Florida Bankruptcy Attorneys you show as #17,

You need to adjust your content for better presentation, making it easier to find keywords.

There is a lot of on page SEO that can be done.

Contact me in Skype if you would like to discuss your options.

Best of luck.

Reg

best.
Reg Charie
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[Google Expert Michael Wilson]

Well put Rob 

Michael

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