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David Litt  
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 More options Jun 15 2012, 5:11 am
From: David Litt <davidgl...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:11:02 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2012 5:11 am
Subject: Re: [SIR] C1200 Prep - Suggestions for Avoiding Foot Pain?

Thanks to all!

I guess the idea of switching to sandals/mountain shoes with SPD
pedals/cleats ... does not get any votes.

For now, I'll bring my most roomy road shoes, and pick up some metatarsal
pads as well as bringing the higher arch insoles and my normal insoles.

My cleats are all the way back already (using Look Keo 3-hole cleats), but
I'm not ready to give up on cleats and go to flat pedals with clips or
power grips ... though I suppose I might eventually get there.

Look forward to seeing you next week.
David

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Bill Gobie <b...@billandlorene.com> wrote:
> David,

> Chris has some good answers. I have a few thoughts of my own.

> I have custom footbeds made by my ski boot fitter, who is also a cyclist.
> They improve my shoes' fit a good deal. The lumps Chris mentions are
> metatarsal pads. They fit beside the ball of your foot, in line with the
> second and third toes. They help keep your metatarsals from collapsing.
> They take a bit of getting used to as your feet adjust to them. They
> ultimately help quite a bit if you have metatarsal problems, which it
> sounds like you might.

> I ditched mountain pedals entirely. Even the stiffest mountain shoes flex
> (so that they are somewhat walkable compared to road shoes). When the soles
> flex the cleats push up into your feet. The bigger contact surface the A520
> pedals offer help some riders, but as your shoes' soles wear the soles will
> flex more to contact the pedals. The oft-heard advice to move your cleats
> back as far as possible attempts to move the cleats away from your
> suffering metatarsals. Yours probably are suffering since you say your
> cleats are under the balls of your feet (metatarsals).

> Since I have to be clipped in on a recumbent, I have gone back to Ultegra
> pedals and cleats with super stiff road shoes. The big pedal-cleat contact
> area, stiff soles, and orthotics has fixed my problems with foot pain on
> that bike.

> On my upright bikes I use stiff mountain shoes with toe cages and straps.
> No cleats. No foot pain.

> My shoes are sized so I can wear thin compression socks and up to two
> pairs of medium weight wool socks, typically a pair of hiking socks and ski
> socks. This gives plenty of room to loosen the shoes in warm weather. You
> might think your shoes are the right size but if you do not have room for
> two pairs of socks then I would say they are too small. The "right size" in
> the shop is probably too small, particularly if the salesperson thinks
> shoes should fit tightly. If your feet are being squeezed that puts extra
> pressure on your metatarsals. Feet tend to swell in warm weather and on
> long rides.

> I can't offer you much hope for the Shimano sandals. They are relatively
> flexible so they will not solve the problem of the cleats pushing up into
> your metatarsals. The relief you are getting from them is probably because
> they are wide and loose so your feet are not being squeezed. Whether that
> is enough to get you through a 1200 I do not know.

> The arch supports are probably not what you really need. Be cautious with
> them; they will tilt your feet which could cause knee problems.

> If you pedal toes-down, you should try to work into a flatter or heel-down
> style. Toes-down jams your feet into the front of your shoes; this will
> make any shoes too tight.

> I think the short-term fix you should try is to take off your cleats and
> use flat pedals with cages and straps. Bend the cages as necessary if your
> shoes do not get on well with them, or don't even use cages. There are
> plenty of randos who use flat pedals with no retention system. Get some
> metatarsal pads for your footbeds, and keep your shoes loose over the balls
> of your feet. Bring your cleats and SPD pedals in your drop bag.

> The cleatless shoes I use are Specialized Tahoe Sports. They are lace-up
> and tolerably toe-cage/strap friendly.

> Bill


 
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