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cicero venatio

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Aug 30, 2012, 11:32:29 AM8/30/12
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It's been settled by journalists that Katrina was a "Republican"
hurricane, but I'm confused by what party affiliation Isaac is. When
it looked as if Isaac was going to devastate the GOP convention it was
going to be a "Democrat" hurricane, but then it veered off to New
Orleans so I'm confused now. Which party affiliation is Isaac, could
someone clarify?

skink on sink

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Aug 30, 2012, 11:35:43 AM8/30/12
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Could be an Independent, they're the hardest to poll and track they say...
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cicero venatio

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> Katrina was "republican" only by failure of policy before, during and
> after.
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Isn't the reason that the Isaac victims are not being helped is
because Louisana and Mississippi are a lock for Romney in the General
election? Democrats only give taxpayer money to who is going to vote
for them, no?

NotMe

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"cicero venatio" <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days ago
BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.




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yogurt spank

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On 8/30/2012 11:14 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> OTOH, 9-11,



Gary 'Yoorgloon" Roselles -- left-wing sociopath and author of the
following “views” on race, homosexuality and killing government
officials and teenage girls:

"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448fa9e79d03c83?dmode=source

"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore. 
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source

What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having 
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&

"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance 
of Race Loyalty

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793

"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist

“Bush’s Uncle Tom Cabinet A Good Move For GOP” – Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)

"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
(see header)

"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick 
to their own kind"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source

"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles 
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf04c3586323ed?dmode=source

"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source
(see header)

"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and 
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source

"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c195d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source

"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."

"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source

"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child

http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums

yogurt spank

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Aug 30, 2012, 6:05:24 PM8/30/12
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On 8/30/2012 3:45 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> Help has already been

cicero venatio

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>
> Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days ago
> BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.
---------------
Bush did the same thing, and the Democrat media said that the only
thing the African-Americans had to eat was each other.

Don't you remember when Bush gave the blacks federal credit cards, and
the women maxed them out on Louis Vuitton handbags? They bought the
new ones when you can get a pre-owned Louis Vuitton's for $899.

http://www.luxedesignerhandbags.com/products/used-louis-vuitton-montorgueil-pm-authentic-pre-owned-104548?gclid=COXqxM2xkLICFcKDQgodLgMAhA

--------------- .

NotMe

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Aug 30, 2012, 6:46:59 PM8/30/12
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"cicero venatio" <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days ago
>> BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.
> ---------------
> Bush did the same thing, and the Democrat media said that the only
> thing the African-Americans had to eat was each other.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I grew up in NOLA and was there back before hurricanes had names much
less only female names.

Me and mine were there before, during and following Katrina. Do you really
want me to address even a few of the details of the cluster f*?



Yer Pal Al

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On Aug 30, 3:47 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "cicero venatio" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bde697d0-44c7-4065...@k9g2000pbr.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >> Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days ago
> >> BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.
> > ---------------
> > Bush did the same thing, and the Democrat media said that the only
> > thing the African-Americans had to eat was each other.
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> I grew up in NOLA and was there back before hurricanes had names much
> less only female names.

The first hurricane was a man's name, George, in 1947. Naming them
after women didn't come until years later.

> Me and mine were there before, during and following Katrina.  Do you really
> want me to address even a few of the details of the cluster f*?

Yes, that would be nice. Thanks.

NotMe

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"Yer Pal Al" <caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 30, 3:47 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "cicero venatio" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days
> >> ago BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.
> > ---------------
> > Bush did the same thing, and the Democrat media said that the only
> > thing the African-Americans had to eat was each other.
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> I grew up in NOLA and was there back before hurricanes had names much
> less only female names.

}The first hurricane was a man's name, . Naming them
after women didn't come until years later.

Nice try but no cigar as the process was on and off (mostly women's names,
some by location name) depending on who was talking and their personal point
of reference that goes back to early in the 40's.

The 1947 hurricane that hammered the Mississippi Gulf Coast was called the "
'47 Hurricane" at least as far was the locals were concerned. I was there so
I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to tell me how it was 60+ years ago.

> Me and mine were there before, during and following Katrina. Do you really
> want me to address even a few of the details of the cluster f*?

}Yes, that would be nice. Thanks.

Short list:

FEMA claimed all surface access into NOLA was blocked which was partially
true. News folk got in the back way (the same route Lafitte, the pirate,
and the bootleggers of prohibition used). This was well used by a lot of
the locals, me and mine included.

Funny but it seems that FEMA nor the DoD knew of this route but was easily
found on Google maps and Google earth. I would expect that the government
had access to much much better sat technology than Google Earth. Perhaps I
should mention that the Coast Guard and the ATF knew about the route. Barry
Seal used it in his smuggling operations so the CIA was in on the secret.

8000 gallons of fresh water was within three miles of the Superdome. FEMA
sent the trucks back to Baton Rough. Drivers threatened with arrest if they
didn't comply. These trucks came down the west side of the river across the
Huey Long bridge (Bridge City) then along Jefferson Highway/Tchoupitoulas to
Canal. (see Lafitte above)

Barge/tow boat companies offered to bring in barge loads of water and
supplies to the foot to Canal. Offer declined.

Wal Mart Corp had something on the order of 20+ semi-trailers loaded with
relief supplies. FEMA would not allow them to enter NOLA.

In a previous hurricane Florida was covered up with supplies to the point
that gen sets went unused. Relief supplies were delivered to the people of
Florida the very next day.

Emergency MREs were delivered to Afghanistan from Germany within <24 hours
of need, yet apparently nothing could be moved from anywhere in the USA to
NOLA for weeks.

Navy helicopter and relief ships were on site for the earth quake/tsunami
relief in Indonesia with in one day. Military vessels to NOLA and the
Mississippi gulf coast were not dispatched until a week later.

FEMA troops were caught stealing diesel fuel and communications equipment
from Jefferson Parish Sheriff Department.

FEMA blocked the communications repair techs (for the police radio system)
from entering the city.

Coast guard helicopters were short of fuel which limited their ability to
respond (CG did a *fantastic* job regardless) but no tanker trucks nor
tanker aircraft were dispatched to resupply fuel.

Private air boats had been allowed in previous emergencies to move survivors
from flooded areas but again not allowed by FEMA for Katrina.

FEMA's director (aka you're doing a good job Brownie) was more concerned
about what he was going to ware for his press conference than about problems
in the area. Regardless he was not aware that NOLA had flooded as by his
own words 'until he saw the flooding on TV'.

LSU had predicted the exact scenario years before. The study and input were
ignored. The engineering company constructing some of the levees (I use
that term broadly) that failed advised the COE (corp of engineers) of the
potential problems and were told basically build to plan.

Bean counters (this was before Bush) made a cost/benefit call and built
levees to a Cat 3 rating. What's more the same standard was used in the
rebuild. So currently as long as NOLA gets a CAT 3 or lower it's in good
shape. But like the Mayor said last week anything more than a CAT 3 and all
bets are off.

Private security (aka Blackwater) had the run of the city basically
protecting corp interest.

Things did not get on track until LTG Russel (Don't Get Stuck on STUPID!)
Honore: started taking names and kicking ass.

The man was from S. Louisiana spoke the language (literally), knew the area,
the people and more so knew what was needed. I expect he'd seem his share
of hurricanes as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEyT8uh8xT8&feature=related



FirstPost

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Aug 30, 2012, 11:09:56 PM8/30/12
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FEMA is still a joke. When the floods hit here close to four years
ago, all FEMA did was have meetings with victims and handed out
checks.
Two and half years ago when central Arkansas got flooded a god friend
of mine that was a victim received a package from FEMA with "Flood
Recovery Kit" printed in big pretty letters across it.
The box contained a 5 gallon bucket, a mop and a half dozen pairs of
rubber gloves. That is no lie, I was there when he opened the thing.
And again FEMA primarily concerned itself with giving out checks.
Granted, the checks were needed and appreciated but they could have
done that without coming in and taking full authority and mismanaging
the hell out of the situation.
The idiots in charge are all about proper paperwork hence the blocking
of such voluntary acts of assistance after Katrina because of red
tape.

If you live down there then you remember "Camille".
The people of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana seemed to do a pretty
good job of dealing with that long before there was any such thing as
FEMA.

NotMe

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Aug 30, 2012, 11:58:22 PM8/30/12
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"FirstPost"
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEyT8uh8xT8&feature=related
>>
>>
> FEMA is still a joke. When the floods hit here close to four years
> ago, all FEMA did was have meetings with victims and handed out
> checks.
> Two and half years ago when central Arkansas got flooded a god friend
> of mine that was a victim received a package from FEMA with "Flood
> Recovery Kit" printed in big pretty letters across it.
> The box contained a 5 gallon bucket, a mop and a half dozen pairs of
> rubber gloves. That is no lie, I was there when he opened the thing.
> And again FEMA primarily concerned itself with giving out checks.
> Granted, the checks were needed and appreciated but they could have
> done that without coming in and taking full authority and mismanaging
> the hell out of the situation.
> The idiots in charge are all about proper paperwork hence the blocking
> of such voluntary acts of assistance after Katrina because of red
> tape.
>
> If you live down there then you remember "Camille".
> The people of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana seemed to do a pretty
> good job of dealing with that long before there was any such thing as
> FEMA.

Remember it well (and more likely miss remembering most of it). Folk
cooperated and got things done. Mattered not
white/black/republican/democrat.

we had a summer home on near Bay St. Louis (knock on the back door front
door rattled). Nothing fancy but dry. Neighbor who had retired there lost
everything. My dad cleaned up our place, bought all new furniture and
appliances loaded the fridge and went to the where the neighbors were
'living' and handed them the key. The understanding was when your place is
fixed/replace return the key.


You might find this stroy interesting. Following Katrina FEMA came by the
home of one of our extended family members and wanted to give them a
trailer.

They said no thank you (they had gen sets and all the comforts of home).
they left to help some other family members and when they came home FEMA had
disconnect their power, water and sanitation and hooked up two trailers.

took about 3 hours to get things undone and redone. Next day they called
FEMA and asked them to come pick up the trailers. Not possible as FEMA did
not have a truck or driver.

That's ok we have the equipment where do you want these trailers dropped.

Long story short the FEMA troop said if the trailers were moved someone was
going to jail (implication that someone one was one of ours).

Did some checking and found out that FEMA had not registered the trailers as
required by LA law. The trailers were posted, notice filed at the court
house and in the local paper. On the 61st day the judge taped the bench and
we had the legal title to both trailers.

About 18 months later a FEMA truck showed up and started to hook up the
trailer. Local state trooper (next door neighbor) explained to the driver
that should he continue *he* (not FEMA) would be going to jail.

Long story short we now have a former FEMA trailer at the deer camp and one
at the fishing camp. Good for storage but not much else.





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FirstPost

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Being a government agency it is almost to be expected that the higher
ups would be bureaucrats that really don't know anything but paperwork
but yould think that somewhere in the chain down the line there would
be "troops on the ground" that actually knew what they were doing.
Not so with FEMA.
Wonder what the qualifications are to get a job with FEMA?
Being able to breathe and sign the back of your paycheck?





skink on sink

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On 8/30/2012 4:46 PM, NotMe wrote:
> Me and mine were there before, during and following Katrina. Do you really
> want me to address even a few of the details of the cluster f*?

Will you speak to school bus penthouse Nagin and stay away you Feds Blanco?

skink on sink

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On 8/30/2012 8:48 PM, NotMe wrote:
> FEMA claimed all surface access into NOLA was blocked which was partially
> true.

Yup, Nagin and Blanco fucked your ass.

yogurt spank

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On 8/30/2012 10:48 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> They sat and rotted.

360 murdered in Obama's 'organized communities'

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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:14:02 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT), cicero venatio
><jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>It's been settled by journalists that Katrina was a "Republican"
>>hurricane, but I'm confused by what party affiliation Isaac is.
>
>Katrina was "republican" only by failure of policy before, during and
>after.

Primarily by the 'Rat politicians then infesting Louisiana and New
Orleans at the time. Remember Ray "Schoolbus" Nagan and Kathleen "We
don't need no steenkin' advance preparations!" Blanco?

>OTOH, 9-11, and several severe Hurricanes were "God punishing evil
>liberals/Gays"----as a Republican leader pronouncement from Pat
>Robertson and Jerry Falwell (et al)
>
>You could say per Robertson logic---that God was delivering a message
>to republicans. (couldn't you?)

Pat Robertson is a freaking loon. At least he's not the Vice
President...

360 murdered in Obama's 'organized communities'

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Aug 31, 2012, 2:50:26 AM8/31/12
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Nagan and Blanco took their cluster f* and went home at the voters'
urging.

360 murdered in Obama's 'organized communities'

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Of course, the locals back then hadn't yet been exposed to several
decades of subsequent education in being passive sheep attached to the
government teat.

360 murdered in Obama's 'organized communities'

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Failing the TSA exam...

Yer Pal Al

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On Aug 30, 7:48 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "Yer Pal Al" <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:f0cd40cc-90aa-48ff...@l14g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 30, 3:47 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > "cicero venatio" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days
> > >> ago BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.
> > > ---------------
> > > Bush did the same thing, and the Democrat media said that the only
> > > thing the African-Americans had to eat was each other.
>
> > BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> > I grew up in NOLA and was there back before hurricanes had names much
> > less only female names.
> }The first hurricane was a man's name, . Naming them
>
> after women didn't come until years later.
>
> Nice try but no cigar

Look it up. The first named storm was George in 1947.

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yogurt spank

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On 8/31/2012 9:23 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> So---You're correct.

NotMe

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"Yer Pal Al" <caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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This from NOAA but then what do they know.

http://hoeps.org/archive/2009/atlantic_hurricane_names.pdf

As to the rest I was there... where were you?


Yer Pal Al

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On Sep 1, 9:00 am, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "Yer Pal Al" <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:983589cc-6999-45f6...@kg10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 30, 7:48 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Yer Pal Al" <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:f0cd40cc-90aa-48ff...@l14g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> > On Aug 30, 3:47 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > > "cicero venatio" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >> Equipment and supplies were dispatched to the gulf coast several days
> > > >> ago BEFORE Isaac became a hurricane.
> > > > ---------------
> > > > Bush did the same thing, and the Democrat media said that the only
> > > > thing the African-Americans had to eat was each other.
>
> > > BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> > > I grew up in NOLA and was there back before hurricanes had names much
> > > less only female names.
> > }The first hurricane was a man's name, . Naming them
>
> > after women didn't come until years later.
>
> > Nice try but no cigar
> }} Look it up. The first named storm was George in 1947.
>
> This from NOAA but then what do they know.

The US Weather Office which named George predates NOAA by 100 years.

> http://hoeps.org/archive/2009/atlantic_hurricane_names.pdf

That doesn't dispute what I wrote which you could search if you wanted
to.

> As to the rest I was there...

I give a shit because...?

> where were you?

Making money.
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yogurt spank

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On 9/4/2012 11:26 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> IDIOT.

Yer Pal Al

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On Sep 4, 10:26 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 22:35:09 -0700 (PDT), Yer Pal Al
>
> <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The US Weather Office which named George predates NOAA by 100 years.
>
> "George" Bush was a disaster no mater what year he came around.

Says the self-described:

> IDIOT.

who's missing large chunks of Grey "Mater".

On the other hand there will never be a hurricane named Obama because
it'll never be considered and American name.

Ever.

Moder@tor

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Both of you bozos should take 'and' basic English course.

meso-scalar

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On 9/4/2012 1:13 PM, Moder@tor is a pus-filled nancy-boy.

FirstPost

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We are already experiencing "Hurrican Obama" and it is laying waste
from coast to coast.


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On 9/4/2012 5:05 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> Failed to mention his name.
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