What's the vibe in Seattle like?
George
would love to get a sense for what the 'feeling' is like in the city.
I've heard that it's a great city and a horrible one also, but the
responses I get always revolve around the economy, traffic or the
rain.
How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
these are some of the nicest people around.
WOULD SOMEONE GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT?
Just looking for an idea of what I am getting myself into.
JM
news:8ee3d78b.0210...@posting.google.com...
> How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
> the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
> these are some of the nicest people around.
Every city I go to it seems similar. Each person has
their issues that are hot. There are a few out there
who have no issues with anything but they are rare.
When you first meet a person in Seattle and these
"might" be hot issues for them :
rain
monorail
bush~gore
stadiums
traffic
housing prices
war on terrorism
If you ask gently what each individuals
take on each of these top 7 issues then
you will see who you are dealing with.
If you just come right out and say something
blunt, then you might get in hot water,
coffee or esspresso... *smile
JM
Tim Crowley
like any other city there are all kinds of people. If you like the people
where you live now, you
will like the people in Seattle. What you experience in Seattle will depend
much more on you, than
on the people of Seattle.....
B. Nice
Perspective is everything.
Where are you coming from?
-b
H. McDaniel
> "George" <george...@sea.ddb.com> wrote in message
> news:8ee3d78b.0210...@posting.google.com...
> > I am getting ready to transfer to my company's Seattle office and I
> > would love to get a sense for what the 'feeling' is like in the city.
> > I've heard that it's a great city and a horrible one also, but the
> > responses I get always revolve around the economy, traffic or the
> > rain.
> >
> > How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
> > the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
> > these are some of the nicest people around.
> >
> > WOULD SOMEONE GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT?
> >
> > Just looking for an idea of what I am getting myself into.
>
> like any other city there are all kinds of people. If you like the people
> where you live now, you
> will like the people in Seattle.
There is a big difference in how your average native of Boston or NYC
treats a stranger on the street or in a shop vs. how natives act in
Seattle.
-McDaniel
Margaret Bartley
speak? What is
> the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and
I've heard that
> these are some of the nicest people around.
It depends a lot on where you live. The areas are real
different.
If you live in the working-class neighborhoods in the south
end, you'll be in
chain-store hell.
If you live in the Eastside, you'll be in shopping mall
heaven, yuppies and
SUVs all around.
If you move into one of the ethnic, close-in neighborhoods
south of the Ship
Canal, you'll have lots of choices about what kinds of
people you
interact with.
If you live in one of the close-in residential neighborhoods
north of down-town,
you'll be surrounded by liberal, Birkenstockers.
You can go out a ways and be in red-neck territory in the
rural parts of the county.
It depends a lot on where you live, which determines how
much you want to pay for housing, and how long your commute
is.
Darren
All in all, it just depends on you. If you're a people person, you'll meet
people, if you're not, you won't. (well - you probably still would) If you
have a lot of patience, you'll do fine. It takes it, to deal with the
things that you see and deal with while driving. ;-)
Just smile and things will be fine. People are responsive to smiles.
Peace.
George
I'm looking to live in downtown. A lot of friends that I have spoken
to have very nice things to say about the city, but they have not been
able to articulate to me what the attraction is. I have received
responses so far which give me an idea of politics and such, but don't
'color' in the picture for me. What do you see as the benefits in
coming to live in Seattle? Did you come for the city or for the job
and the city was a benefit?
B. Nice
> "Margaret Bartley" <REMOVETHISmar...@mindspring.com> wrote in
message news:<aooat8$c0l$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>...
> I'm looking to live in downtown.
How much are you looking to spend? Buying or renting? Space requirements?
-b
Eric da Red
George <george...@sea.ddb.com> wrote:
>I am getting ready to transfer to my company's Seattle office and I
>would love to get a sense for what the 'feeling' is like in the city.
That's a difficult question to answer, because we in Seattle prefer
to keep our hands to ourselves.
>I've heard that it's a great city and a horrible one also, but the
>responses I get always revolve around the economy, traffic or the
>rain.
There's a good reason for that.
>How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
>the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
>these are some of the nicest people around.
>
>WOULD SOMEONE GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT?
The reason you've received different and conflicting responses is
due to your question being fundamentally subjective. There is no
straight answer.
>Just looking for an idea of what I am getting myself into.
People are pretty much the same everywhere in the USA.
--
ShrubQuote Of The Week: "I was proud the other day when both Republicans
and Democrats stood with me in the Rose Garden to announce their support
for a clear statement of purpose: you disarm, or we will."
John Spangler
Eric da Red <berg...@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:aopmrg$co8$1...@drizzle.com...
> In article <8ee3d78b.0210...@posting.google.com>,
> George <george...@sea.ddb.com> wrote:
> >I am getting ready to transfer to my company's Seattle office and I
> >would love to get a sense for what the 'feeling' is like in the city.
>
> That's a difficult question to answer, because we in Seattle prefer
> to keep our hands to ourselves.
>
>
> >I've heard that it's a great city and a horrible one also, but the
> >responses I get always revolve around the economy, traffic or the
> >rain.
>
> There's a good reason for that.
>
>
> >How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
> >the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
> >these are some of the nicest people around.
> >
> >WOULD SOMEONE GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT?
>
>
> The reason you've received different and conflicting responses is
> due to your question being fundamentally subjective. There is no
> straight answer.
>
> >Just looking for an idea of what I am getting myself into.
>
> People are pretty much the same everywhere in the USA.
>
>
well, yeah. they are all people, wherever you go.
but there are distinctions. different areas have different cultures, to
some extent, of course.
this is what i have noticed.
people in the nw are very passive-aggressive. they are much less assertive
than your average new yorker, for instance.
they are less gregarious than your new englander.
they tend to be a little chunkier looking than you would see in cali or
arizona. exceptions to this are the eastside, as compared to seattle
proper, imo.
i really like the people around here. i like people in general. i have
traveled extensively both internationally and intranationally and i find two
things pertinent - we're all human beings (cue: MIB reference) and thus we
are all more similar than dissimilar. However, different areas, nations,
regions, etc. etc. etc. have quirks which may be noticeable in the
aggregate, with the understanding that individuals still differ -
individually.
seattle has a large %age of people from other places, so there is a kind of
lack of 'grounding' that you may find in places where people and families
have lived there over and over and over the generations, such as in areas of
the south i have visited, as well as new england towns, etc.
again, the people here are cool. a little more standoffish and sensitive
than some other locales i have been to, but when you get to know people
here, they are good folk.
Steve
SMITH29
xxxxx
Yeah, NYC is very friendly.
Seattle is NOT so friendly.
Like they were stuck up or something.
A person can't even blow away a felon pointing a gun at them without
getting sued...
29
SMITH29
> In article <8ee3d78b.0210...@posting.google.com>,
> George <george...@sea.ddb.com> wrote:
>
>>I am getting ready to transfer to my company's Seattle office and I
>>would love to get a sense for what the 'feeling' is like in the city.
>
>
> That's a difficult question to answer, because we in Seattle prefer
> to keep our hands to ourselves.
>
>
>
>>I've heard that it's a great city and a horrible one also, but the
>>responses I get always revolve around the economy, traffic or the
>>rain.
>
>
> There's a good reason for that.
>
>
>
>>How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
>>the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
>>these are some of the nicest people around.
>>
>>WOULD SOMEONE GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT?
>
>
>
> The reason you've received different and conflicting responses is
> due to your question being fundamentally subjective. There is no
> straight answer.
>
>
>>Just looking for an idea of what I am getting myself into.
>
>
> People are pretty much the same everywhere in the USA.
That's so untrue!!!!!
29
>
>
B. Nice
"Steve" <gdu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2e5c7807.02101...@posting.google.com...
> Baltimore
Seattle will be an improvment over Baltimore in atmosphere and lifestyle.
Less densely populated, less "industrial", and not as old.
Less interesting in other ways. Good things to do in driving disatance, but
not as many. Baltimore is about as "East Coast" as you can get. You'll get
away from that. However, there may be things you will miss.
-b
Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
>
>I'm looking to live in downtown. A lot of friends that I have spoken
>to have very nice things to say about the city, but they have not been
>able to articulate to me what the attraction is. I have received
>responses so far which give me an idea of politics and such, but don't
>'color' in the picture for me. What do you see as the benefits in
>coming to live in Seattle? Did you come for the city or for the job
>and the city was a benefit?
Seattle is a waterside shantytown overlaid with tedious American
construction of recent vintage. The traffic is as bad as you have
heard and it will soon make you want to kill strangers or possibly
yourself. Seattle has the highest suicide rate in the nation, in part
because it is the northernmost major U.S. city and the winter days are
short and dreary. The dark, confining climate for six months of the
year helps explain why people in Seattle tend to be cold, distant, and
passive-aggressive.
If I were you I'd look for a different job.
Charlie
metacom
>
> "George" <george...@sea.ddb.com> wrote in message
> news:8ee3d78b.0210...@posting.google.com...
> > I am getting ready to transfer to my company's Seattle office and I
> > would love to get a sense for what the 'feeling' is like in the city.
> > I've heard that it's a great city and a horrible one also, but the
> > responses I get always revolve around the economy, traffic or the
> > rain.
> >
> > How are the people? What's the buzz in the air, so to speak? What is
> > the general attitude there? I've heard clique-ish and I've heard that
> > these are some of the nicest people around.
> >
> > WOULD SOMEONE GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT?
> >
> > Just looking for an idea of what I am getting myself into.
Well, I am from the east coast (Boston) and have lived here for 11
years. I always hear (from Seattlites) that the west coast attitude is
much more layed back. To be honest, I really never noticed any
difference between the east & west coast "attitude". I think it's just
me, but everyone else says there is a big difference. Maybe I've lived
here too long to remember.
As for me, I love living here and would never move back east - the mild
climate we have here won me over, and I don't mind the rain. The
gorgeous mountains don't hurt either.
Fringe Ryder
> Well, I am from the east coast (Boston) and have lived here for 11
>years. I always hear (from Seattlites) that the west coast attitude is
>much more layed back. To be honest, I really never noticed any
>difference between the east & west coast "attitude". I think it's just
>me, but everyone else says there is a big difference. Maybe I've lived
>here too long to remember.
> As for me, I love living here and would never move back east - the mild
>climate we have here won me over, and I don't mind the rain. The
>gorgeous mountains don't hurt either.
I was born in Boston and have also lived all up/down the west coast. The
west coast EXCEPT SEATTLE is more laid back than Boston. Seattle is an
uptight town in terrible need of a coffee enema... and even that hasn't
helped much.
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B. Nice
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote in message
news:on02rus10l8vilflv...@4ax.com...
I have to go along with this assessment, and include myself within it.
Spent 3 weeks in Florida this summer. I will spend the next 11 months and
1 week looking forward to my trip back.
-b
Tom Dobrowolsky
Having lived out in Boston for 3 months last year and having been here
for a month and a half, I have noticed a big difference already. In
general, people in Boston (and NYC for that matter) always seemed to
be in a big hurry to get somewhere. At a stoplight, if you don't start
moving in under a second after the light turned green, you'll likely
get someone laying in on their horn. Here, it takes 3-4 seconds
before somebody *might* honk. People here don't seem to have that
exagerrated sense of self-importance and I haven't really noticed a
pressing need to get somewhere 5 mintues ago. You're not as likely
to get bumped/trampled on the sidewalk if you stop to admire something.
And another thing...everybody here seems to thank the bus driver when
they get off the bus. It's uncanny. I never did this in Chicago, my
original hometown, yet I did it here all the time. And bus drivers here
will actually yell accross the street for the other driver to hold his/her
bus so that you can transfer.
Having said all of that, I don't know what it is about the cops here, though.
They seem to like to behave like Big Brother...riding their little
bicycles and calling attention to pedestrians who cross against a light
even when no cars are anywhere near the intersection. Maybe it's just
the cops on the Ave in the U-district that get a high busting up the
grimy streetkids...
I don't know what it is with all the Seattle-bashing, though. Again, I
come from Chicago, where people all know that the politicians are corrupt,
where traffic is pretty bad, where air quality is pretty bad. Yet, people
still realize that, hey, their garbage gets picked up, snow gets removed,
and the air ain't as bad as LA. And Chicagoans love their humidity-drenched
swamp of a city. Here, though, I don't know what it is with the
loud-mouthed minority that seems to bash Seattle every chance it gets. So
fucking fashionable to bash Seattle. Get the fuck out if it sucks so much.
Leave the rest of us to enjoy the shit out of this place as we have been
doing.
Yeah, the traffic can suck...but there are ways to avoid/mitigate it.
It's nothing compared to the Eisenhower 'expressway' at rush hour.
Sprawl??? Try driving out into the country through the hundreds of
suburbs in NE Illinois. Cripes, at least there is something outside the
city here besides corn and soybean fields. Such a great city in a
wonderful geographic location -- mountains and forests and abundant
splendor. Jesus Christ in a green sun dress! People here don't know how
good they got it.
/lw
Jeffrey B.
but haven't for various reasons. I have however "researched" the area to
try to figure out if it was for me or not. Everyone i've ever talked to
who's moved to Seattle tells me how much they love the city and that
part of the country. One girl told me she had moved there 10 years ago
and wished she had moved there 10 years before that because she loved it
so much.
Seattle has had an awful lot of people move there in the last 10 years
at least. at one point i read they were having about 200,000 people per
year move there. so you can imagine what that must have done to the
quality of life in the city as far as traffic, crime and cost of
housing. I also read that alot of people live outside of the city and
drive to work making traffic hell.
In the military people use to say, "every command is what you make it",
meaning it's up to you how much you enjoy it. if you're a patient guy
who can deal with traffic and crowds, and you get out enjoy what seattle
has to offer i imagine you'll love it. honestly, i wish it was me being
transferred to that part of the country! good luck, jeff.
If anyone from Seattle wants to correct me please do for George's sake.
After all you live there not me....
JM
"Tom Dobrowolsky" <ag...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:aov7mc$1s56$1...@nntp6.u.washington.edu...
> I haven't really noticed a
> pressing need to get somewhere 5 mintues ago. You're not as likely
> to get bumped/trampled on the sidewalk if you stop to admire something.
This true.... When I was in Edinburough and London, everyone was
walking twice the speed as Seattle folks. Also the people in
England and Germany don't ride bicycles with helmets. But in
Seattle, helmets are on darn near everyone including kids.
> And another thing...everybody here seems to thank the bus driver when
> they get off the bus. It's uncanny. I never did this in Chicago, my
> original hometown, yet I did it here all the time. And bus drivers here
> will actually yell accross the street for the other driver to hold his/her
> bus so that you can transfer.
Yeah, that is an awesome thing about Metro drivers. Even
after one of their drivers are shot and killed, they are still
helping you out with that almost missed transfer bus. I
often talk to the bus driver while they drive or are on break.
They seem very friendly and talk to me more than I to them.
I bet when I go to Philly or SF or LA or some other city, I
bet the bus drivers are shocked that I thank them when I
reach where I'm going.
> Having said all of that, I don't know what it is about the cops here,
though.
> They seem to like to behave like Big Brother...riding their little
> bicycles and calling attention to pedestrians who cross against a light
> even when no cars are anywhere near the intersection. Maybe it's just
> the cops on the Ave in the U-district that get a high busting up the
> grimy streetkids...
The cops are jealous of the bus drivers getting thank yous ! (^:
> I don't know what it is with all the Seattle-bashing, though. Again, I
> come from Chicago, where people all know that the politicians are corrupt,
> where traffic is pretty bad, where air quality is pretty bad. Yet, people
> still realize that, hey, their garbage gets picked up, snow gets removed,
> and the air ain't as bad as LA. And Chicagoans love their
humidity-drenched
> swamp of a city.
True, the only Chicago people I met that hated it, were teenagers
that worked as lifeguards at the downtown beach. Everybody
else loved it from what I could tell.
> Here, though, I don't know what it is with the
> loud-mouthed minority that seems to bash Seattle every chance it gets. So
> fucking fashionable to bash Seattle. Get the fuck out if it sucks so much.
> Leave the rest of us to enjoy the shit out of this place as we have been
> doing.
Yeah, PBS should do a 5 night show on Seattle and people
might to see it as the great place that it is. But I think that
telling people to get out of Dodge because they complain
about something might just want them to stay more. (^:
Reverse psychology ?
> Yeah, the traffic can suck...but there are ways to avoid/mitigate it.
> It's nothing compared to the Eisenhower 'expressway' at rush hour.
> Sprawl??? Try driving out into the country through the hundreds of
> suburbs in NE Illinois. Cripes, at least there is something outside the
> city here besides corn and soybean fields. Such a great city in a
> wonderful geographic location -- mountains and forests and abundant
> splendor. Jesus Christ in a green sun dress! People here don't know how
> good they got it.
Yeah, often city people move here and the new friends
they make keep dragging them camping and they
hate that. Or country people move here and then
their new friends are dragging them to do city stuff
but they hate that. Seattle is such a size that most
people here like a mixture of outdoor and indoor
recreations. Jesus Christ in a blue sun dress ! (^:
> /lw
JM
TrueWest
> where you live now, you
> will like the people in Seattle. What you experience in Seattle will depend
> much more on you, than
> on the people of Seattle.....
I couldn't disagree more. Seattle is the most passive-aggressive
place I have ever lived. People are cold, distant and self-righteous.
In other places, the majority of the people have grown up there. In
Seattle, everyone has run from someplace else, except the locals who
are continually pissed off about having people move there.
In other cities, people LIKE talking to strangers. In Seattle,
they'll lock up their wheels to let you cross the road, but they would
NEVER talk to you in line at the grocery store. Polite as hell, but
impersonal and dead.
>
Melinda Tennielle
Truew...@excite.com (TrueWest) wrote:
People chat with me in store lines & other public places quite often.
Sometimes just a friendly smile is enough to get people talking.
Is it possible that you've already judged the people of this area and
are giving out an "I don't like you" vibe?
And do you really think that only 'cold, distant and self-righteous'
people move here? How do you figure that happens? Could it be the ads
our state government places in papers around the country? "Hate life?
Hate people? Come to Washington and be with others like yourself!"
M.
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Tim Crowley
"TrueWest" <Truew...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:d5abb1cb.02102...@posting.google.com...
that describes the people YOU meet in Seattle. I don't find it that way at
all.
It says more about you than it does about the people in Seattle. I talk to
people in the grocery store all the time. The people that I know that are
from here arn't at all pissed off about the transplants and I don't know a
single person who is cold and distant.
JM
news:d5abb1cb.02102...@posting.google.com...
> I couldn't disagree more. Seattle is the most passive-aggressive
> place I have ever lived. People are cold, distant and self-righteous.
> In other places, the majority of the people have grown up there. In
> Seattle, everyone has run from someplace else, except the locals who
> are continually pissed off about having people move there.
>
> In other cities, people LIKE talking to strangers.
Name 5....with populations somewhat near Seattle ?
> In Seattle,
> they'll lock up their wheels to let you cross the road, but they would
> NEVER talk to you in line at the grocery store. Polite as hell, but
> impersonal and dead.
I talk to people at the grocery all the time. Very friendly replies.
Just because people are tired from a work day doesn't mean
they "have" to talk to you in line. In Boise, ID, Salt Lake City,
Walnut Creek, CA, Omaha, NE and Missoula, MT, the people
are very friendly in line at the grocery but as soon as they
find out you are not conservative... well then they never
talk to you again. I'd rather have quiet people in line than
nosey people in line. Where did you grow up that people
were so friendly ? Why do you take it so personal when
people are quiet ?
JM
H McDaniel
> In other cities, people LIKE talking to strangers. In Seattle,
> they'll lock up their wheels to let you cross the road, but they would
> NEVER talk to you in line at the grocery store. Polite as hell, but
> impersonal and dead.
Talking in line is like asking the barber to shave your nuts. You
might feel comfortable with it but not everybody does. In Seattle
only two types of guys talk to each other in line: friends and gay
guys looking for a date. Well okay it depends on how far you
are from the register. The closer to the register you are the less
gay it is. Little words like, "thanks" or "go ahead" are allowed.
But stuff like, "What's your sign" or foolishness like, "How's
the weather" is absolutely forbidden.
-McDaniel
Charlie Wilkes
<REMOVEm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>People chat with me in store lines & other public places quite often.
>Sometimes just a friendly smile is enough to get people talking.
How nice! It's so much more pleasant when the line moves at a
leisurely pace while people chit-chat. I'll bet your a real chum on
airplanes too.
People like you ought simply to be wiped from existence. I'd pay any
amount of taxes to make that happen.
Charlie
P.S. Did you ever get any phone cards for your pet bum? It's getting
cold now -- he might like a pair of slippers.
TrueWest
The tenor of your message is exactly what I'm talking about.
People are nice when they move there...the city is what turns them
cold, distant and self-righteous. If you're happy, accepting, and
well-adjusted, you won't fit in.
It's polite as hell, but utterly devoid of soul or passion.
Melinda Tennielle <REMOVEm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<urbvq9p...@corp.supernews.com>...
TrueWest
Seattle is cold fish, bad sex, and grumpy people. Nice views, but
the people are intolerable.
Glad I'm gone and back in the world where people act like humans, not
robots.
H McDaniel <Cut_off_Xs_to_Rep...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3DB62959...@yahoo.com>...
TrueWest
angry fruit loops who are so busy being smarter than everyone else
they can't even have a civil conversation. I lurked on
seattle.general for years. Now I lurk on ri.general and you know
what? Everyone on that group is respectful...they know a bit about
each other's personal lives, even tho they haven't met in person.
They seem to *gasp* get along with one another.
In seattle.general, you've got a bunch of idiots screaming at each
other. blech. Seattle is full of self-righteous buttheads, both
liberal and conservative.
And you have to do something about that Tim Eyman moron.
"JM" <jj...@remoovethisdrizzle.com> wrote in message news:<1035346891.218079@yasure>...
H McDaniel
> All of these responses are perfect examples of what I'm talking about.
> Seattle is cold fish,
Hmmm.
> bad sex,
It has gotten better now that you're out of town.
-McDaniel
Darren
lol You don't even live in Seattle, how would you know? ;-)
Darren
H McDaniel
I was just in Seattle last month, dude. Real natives return
home to spawn ;)
-McDaniel
JM
> People like you ought simply to be wiped from existence. I'd pay any
> amount of taxes to make that happen.
> Charlie
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Darren
LOL! My wife would be pissed if I went up there to spawn. Unless she came
with, of course. <G>
Darren
(Bellevue native)
Tim Crowley
> angry fruit loops who are so busy being smarter than everyone else
> they can't even have a civil conversation. I lurked on
> seattle.general for years. Now I lurk on ri.general and you know
> what? Everyone on that group is respectful...they know a bit about
> each other's personal lives, even tho they haven't met in person.
> They seem to *gasp* get along with one another.
>
> In seattle.general, you've got a bunch of idiots screaming at each
> other. blech. Seattle is full of self-righteous buttheads, both
> liberal and conservative.
>
> And you have to do something about that Tim Eyman moron.
Was that an example of the friendly RI folks???
You seem to be what you hate.
Tim Crowley
where's the threat?
Tim Crowley
where's the threat?
Darren
> amount of taxes to make that happen.
>
> Charlie
>
>
What about getting to the root of the problem?
Clave
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A final solution?
Jim
patrick
my friends are from elsewhere and they are great people. And the
influx has made Seattle a richer place.
But, yeah, it does feel kind of dead. Maybe everyone moved in and they
are waiting for the "Seattle feel" to hit them, and it never does?
What feeling there was here has been smothered out of existence?
I don't know. I kind of still like living here, but I've lived
elsewhere and like it elsewhere, too, like SF and Arizona.
I'm glad the topic came up. So how would I describe it now? With the
implosion of the dot-com BS that this city grew on, with the implosion
of the economy and tons of people moving away, I think people are just
hanging in there waiting for the glory days of the late 90s to return.
No? And I guess I have frequently acted polite, yet dead and cold.
P
Truew...@excite.com (TrueWest) wrote in message news:<d5abb1cb.02102...@posting.google.com>...
Tim Crowley
"patrick" <clai...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> No? And I guess I have frequently acted polite, yet dead and cold.
>
> P
>
then again, you're a top poster. One would not expect much more.
Darren
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@CableSpeed.com> wrote in message
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Fixing the reason why the problems are there.
Roy Jose Lorr
TrueWest wrote:
> All of these responses are perfect examples of what I'm talking about.
> Seattle is cold fish, bad sex, and grumpy people. Nice views, but
> the people are intolerable.
Strange phenomena my wife pointed out to me. Seems the nicer the natural
scenery, the less nice the inhabitants. We're both well traveled, and after
thinking about it, damned if I didn't have to agree with her.
Roy Jose Lorr
JM wrote:
> "TrueWest" <Truew...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:d5abb1cb.02102...@posting.google.com...
>
>
> > In other cities, people LIKE talking to strangers.
>
> Name 5....with populations somewhat near Seattle ?
Seattle is a town, not a city.
Clave
news:3DB8BDC7...@worldnet.att.net...
>
> TrueWest wrote:
>
> > All of these responses are perfect examples of what I'm talking about.
> > Seattle is cold fish, bad sex, and grumpy people. Nice views, but
> > the people are intolerable.
>
> Strange phenomena my wife pointed out to me. Seems the nicer the natural
Horseshit.
Live in Salt Lake City for a couple of years and get back to us, hmmkay?
Jim
Cable Speed Test
Actually, Seattle is a city of towns...
Its always been so....
H McDaniel
> TrueWest wrote:
>
> > All of these responses are perfect examples of what I'm talking about.
> > Seattle is cold fish, bad sex, and grumpy people. Nice views, but
> > the people are intolerable.
>
> Strange phenomena my wife pointed out to me. Seems the nicer the natural
> scenery, the less nice the inhabitants. We're both well traveled, and after
> thinking about it, damned if I didn't have to agree with her.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so it says more about you than the
people you've met along the way.
-McDaniel
Roy Jose Lorr
H McDaniel wrote:
And, what do you know about the way my eye beholds beauty and the people
I've met along the way?
Roy Jose Lorr
Cable Speed Test wrote:
I'll need a day or a month or two to get my mind
wrapped around this one.
Roy Jose Lorr
Clave wrote:
What are you trying to say?
SMITH29
>>like any other city there are all kinds of people. If you like the people
>>where you live now, you
>>will like the people in Seattle. What you experience in Seattle will depend
>>much more on you, than
>>on the people of Seattle.....
>
>
>
> I couldn't disagree more. Seattle is the most passive-aggressive
> place I have ever lived. People are cold, distant and self-righteous.
> In other places, the majority of the people have grown up there. In
> Seattle, everyone has run from someplace else, except the locals who
> are continually pissed off about having people move there.
>
> In other cities, people LIKE talking to strangers. In Seattle,
> they'll lock up their wheels to let you cross the road, but they would
> NEVER talk to you in line at the grocery store. Polite as hell, but
> impersonal and dead.
xxxx
Try eating hot peppers. They do wonders for digestion.
Or find a mineral bath house that does colonic irrigation.
Or do both.
HTH,
29 ;-)
SMITH29
xxxx
Perhaps you could tell us about the difficulties you had there?
29
SMITH29
> All of these responses are perfect examples of what I'm talking about.
> Seattle is cold fish, bad sex, and grumpy people. Nice views, but
> the people are intolerable.
>
> Glad I'm gone and back in the world where people act like humans, not
> robots.
>
Back when we were making the B-17 and B-29 we were on the look out for
spies.
Word was " Loose Lips Sink Ships ".
That kind of mentality has hung on over the years as we still do some
military work.
True Seattleites love the fall with the foggy days when it's so quiet.
The fog acting as a sound deadener allows us to listen to ourselves for
a while and no jets flying gives the feeling of silent isolation.
Traffic slows way down and people go indoors or walk in it.
We're not a people town and never will be. For that head for NYC where
just about the only entertainment *is* other people.
Here on the Left coast we have too many outdoor distractions to be much
interested in cosmopolitan city life.
29 .-)
H McDaniel
Enough. I know enough ;)
-McDaniel
JM
news:NeHt9.73330$zE6.2...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> where's the threat?
JM
JM
> http://www.gazetteer.de/st/stath.htm
Hello Roy,
I appreciate your pointing this out. I like
websites like this. However, I believe that
TrueWest and I are using the 3rd definition
of "city" at www.dictionary.com as our usage.
Although from the gazetteer site, we might
use "metropolitan area" and be more acurate.
Although we have a 'city council' and we don't
have a "town council" or "metropolitan area
council". We do have town meetings ! (^:
Thanks again for the website. **tips hat**
cheers, JM
Roy Jose Lorr
JM wrote:
On TV no less... Ken Schram no less. "~)
>
>
> Thanks again for the website. **tips hat**
Flips lid... couldn't help it.
Roy Jose Lorr
H McDaniel wrote:
Enough!
metacom
>
> Just to further my point: Look at this newsgroup. It's a bunch of
> angry fruit loops who are so busy being smarter than everyone else
> they can't even have a civil conversation. I lurked on
> seattle.general for years. Now I lurk on ri.general and you know
> what? Everyone on that group is respectful...they know a bit about
> each other's personal lives, even tho they haven't met in person.
> They seem to *gasp* get along with one another.
>
> In seattle.general, you've got a bunch of idiots screaming at each
> other. blech. Seattle is full of self-righteous buttheads, both
> liberal and conservative.
D.W.
Charlie Wilkes wrote:
>
> On 18 Oct 2002 08:44:53 -0700, george...@sea.ddb.com (George)
> wrote:
> >
> >I'm looking to live in downtown. A lot of friends that I have spoken
> >to have very nice things to say about the city, but they have not been
> >able to articulate to me what the attraction is. I have received
> >responses so far which give me an idea of politics and such, but don't
> >'color' in the picture for me. What do you see as the benefits in
> >coming to live in Seattle? Did you come for the city or for the job
> >and the city was a benefit?
>
> Seattle is a waterside shantytown overlaid with tedious American
> construction of recent vintage. The traffic is as bad as you have
> heard and it will soon make you want to kill strangers or possibly
> yourself. Seattle has the highest suicide rate in the nation, in part
> because it is the northernmost major U.S. city and the winter days are
> short and dreary. The dark, confining climate for six months of the
> year helps explain why people in Seattle tend to be cold, distant, and
> passive-aggressive.
>
> If I were you I'd look for a different job.
>
> Charlie