Pretty Bad Privacy
Charlie Wilkes
You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
A massive apparatus fills most of the room. It is a hydrogen bomb
estimated by intelligence services to have a 15 megaton yield. The
bomb is set to go off in two hours. Above, on the streets, the
evacuation of Detroit is turning into a full-fledged panic as accurate
reports of the problem begin to circulate. You can hear shots being
fired at this moment.
A laptop screen glows in the corner. You could terminate the
detonation by opening a password-protected interface and issuing
simple commands -- if you had the password.
But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
name of "individual liberties."
Think about it.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
CORRECTION:
The "EITF" is an acronym for the Emerging Issues Task Force of the
Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB). I meant to say "Phil
Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at the Electronic
Frontier Foundation (EFF)."
Charlie
Paul Raj Khangure
> You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
> guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
> Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
Please stop cross posting this shit between seattle.general and
wa.general
Paul Raj Khangure
--
I stayed up all last night playing poker with tarot cards.
I got a full house and four people died. - Stephen Wright
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
>In an Age long past, an Age yet to come, Charlie Wilkes wrote:
>
>> You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
>> guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
>> Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
>
>Please stop cross posting this shit between seattle.general and
>wa.general
>
I will participate in whatever newsgroups I want, asshole.
Charlie
Sandgroper
<6rrj2to5mloeirjkd...@4ax.com>...
I though about it , and it's all hypothetical WANK and navel gazing ,
WTF is the EITF ? , it doesn't apply to WEST AUSTRALIA or any other
country outside of the good ol' U S of A (arseholes).
It's a pity the hydrogen bomb didn't go off and kill millions of Yanks ,
it might stop some of these arseholes from crossposting their drivel to
wa.general.
Sandgroper
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Paul
assholes....
Paul
Sandgroper
>>
>I will participate in whatever newsgroups I want, asshole.
You may participate in whatever newsgroups that you want , BUT nobody
wants to put up with all your drivelling useless crap , particularly a
west australian Ng.
Go post your crap in american Ngs , not a west australian Ng wa.general.
Tony
And YOU talk about DRIVEL
What a laugh
Tony
"Sandgroper" <stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message
><6rrj2to5mloeirjkd...@4ax.com>...
>I though about it , and it's all hypothetical WANK and navel gazing ,
>WTF is the EITF ? , it doesn't apply to WEST AUSTRALIA or any other
>country outside of the good ol' U S of A (arseholes).
>It's a pity the hydrogen bomb didn't go off and kill millions of Yanks ,
>it might stop some of these arseholes from crossposting their drivel to
Shaun Patrick Darragh
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message
><99vj2t0dk7db6l2dm...@4ax.com>...
>>>
>>I will participate in whatever newsgroups I want, asshole.
>
>
>You may participate in whatever newsgroups that you want , BUT nobody
>wants to put up with all your drivelling useless crap , particularly a
>west australian Ng.
>
>Go post your crap in american Ngs , not a west australian Ng wa.general.
>
I know it's faint consolation, but most folks in seattle.general don't
appreciate this drivel any more than you do.....
Hopefully it'll die down soon and these folks will crawl back into the
woodwork...
Shaun
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TRUE! The media are far to the left of "liberal". Slade Gorton is a
liberal, Dan Rather is a socialist.
-Steve Watson 11-26-00
You are so stupid!!!!
Katherine Harris is a lifelong Democrat.
--Steve Watson 11-11-00
Charlie Wilkes
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message
><6rrj2to5mloeirjkd...@4ax.com>...
>>MARCH 18 2003
>>
>>But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
>>the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
>>of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
>>name of "individual liberties."
>>
>>Think about it.
>
>I though about it , and it's all hypothetical WANK and navel gazing ,
>WTF is the EITF ? , it doesn't apply to WEST AUSTRALIA or any other
>country outside of the good ol' U S of A (arseholes).
>It's a pity the hydrogen bomb didn't go off and kill millions of Yanks ,
>it might stop some of these arseholes from crossposting their drivel to
>wa.general.
>
Dear Sandgroper,
You should have read my follow-up, in which I corrected the egregious
error through which I inadvertantly cast aspersions upon the Emerging
Issues Task Force of the Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB).
It is indeed a pity that the work of the FASB does not apply to West
Australia. If it did, companies in Perth would be required to
AMORTIZE acquired goodwill instead of taking it to the balance sheet.
But, under wimpy Australian GAAP, they're not, and the result is that
Australian corporate earnings quality SUCKS compared with ours here in
the good old U.S. of A.
Charlie
Paul
elect a president.
United States of ASSHOLES more like.
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:35:33 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
<charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:31:36 +0800, "Sandgroper"
><stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message
>><6rrj2to5mloeirjkd...@4ax.com>...
>>>MARCH 18 2003
>>>
>>>But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
>>>the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
>>>of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
>>>name of "individual liberties."
>>>
>>>Think about it.
>>
Big_Don
Paul Raj Khangure wrote:
> Charlie Wilkes fantasized:
>
> > You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
> > guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
> > Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
>
> Please stop cross posting this shit between seattle.general and
> wa.general
>
> Paul Raj Khangure
>
> --
>
> I stayed up all last night playing poker with tarot cards.
> I got a full house and four people died. - Stephen Wright
> I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Hey! Don't bug Charlie, that was a good story.
Since F&SF lost focus, it's hard to get good stuff anymore....
Zac
<charlie...@easynews.com> typed:
>Think about it.
It really depends on whether you were unethically, sneakily kicked out
or not I think.
--
Zac Charlesworth
Charlie Wilkes
>
> Hey! Don't bug Charlie, that was a good story.
> Since F&SF lost focus, it's hard to get good stuff anymore....
>
Anyway, Don, thanks for your support. You are a good ally to have.
I'm in the bellly of the beast, by the way... downtown Detroit. You
wouldn't like the people here one bit. They're living off my hard
earned money, is what, although I have to admit, they're working
pretty hard themselves to get it. This is one of the best Marriott
hotels I've stayed at in terms of service quality and attitude.
Charlie
No LOOT@ dirty towels!
Charlie Wilkes
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>This EITF is totally IRRELEVANT to a west australian Ng , so why in the
>fuck do you post your crap to wa.general in the first place ???? , you
>already know that wa.general is not a washington Ng.
>We have names for people like you in aust that take a long time to learn
>something , we call them Slows for slow learner.
>
How typical of you that you immediately resort to an ad honimen
attack, completely ignoring my RELEVANT comments about AUSTRALIAN
corporate earnings quality. You do live in AUSTRALIA, don't you? Are
you so limited intellectually that you find your own country's
antequated GAAP to be of no interest whatever?
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
>USA - the country of high school massacres and where they can't even
>elect a president.
>United States of ASSHOLES more like.
>
I thought it was "arseholes" in your upside-down Australian
vernacular.
You should be glad I'm taking an interest in your backwards country.
If it weren't for the massive U.S. subsidies to keep your socialist
economy afloat, you people would have lapsed into third-world garbage
picking decades ago.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message
><5b0l2tghhiijihegv...@4ax.com>...
>
>>>
>>How typical of you that you immediately resort to an ad honimen
>>attack, completely ignoring my RELEVANT comments about AUSTRALIAN
>>corporate earnings quality. You do live in AUSTRALIA, don't you? Are
>>you so limited intellectually that you find your own country's
>>antequated GAAP to be of no interest whatever?
>
>
>Who gives a stuff about the financial corporate crap and whether some
>corporate arsehole can afford a new BMW for chrissy.
>Go post your financial crap in
>alt.financial.arseholes.ripOff.theWorkers.AndGreed.isGood
>
Ah, but the policies set by those corporate arseholes will determine
how much you earn next year, or whether you even have a job. You can
numb your brain with the populist hokum that union thugs hand out to
keep peons in line, or you can confront the world as it honestly
exists.
The choice is yours.
Charlie
paghat
<charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
As long as you don't want to participate in moderated newsgroups that is.
-paghat
Charlie Wilkes
(paghat) wrote:
>In article <99vj2t0dk7db6l2dm...@4ax.com>, Charlie Wilkes
><charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>
>As long as you don't want to participate in moderated newsgroups that is.
>-paghat
Yes. Thank you for dotting my eyes, Paggie.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message ...
>>
>>You should be glad I'm taking an interest in your backwards country.
>>If it weren't for the massive U.S. subsidies to keep your socialist
>>economy afloat, you people would have lapsed into third-world garbage
>>picking decades ago.
>
>
>US supplying aust with massive subsidies ?????
>ROLF , you obviously don't have a frigging clue about aust do you ?.
>The US DOES NOT subsidise aust in anything, like most yanks you don't
>even know where aust is , let alone know anything about it's policies.
Ok, well I heard somewhere a long time ago that we did. But thanks
for the correction.
Charlie
paghat
(Paul) wrote:
> You come from a country that can't even elect a leader and you call US
> assholes....
> Paul
I used to work in an open shop that attracted a lot of Aussies & Brits.
Now & then some obnoxious shithead of a tourist would attempt to impose a
"quiz" on me, in a very loud voice demanding: "Guess where I'm from by my
accent!" "Australia" I'd say. "That's right! How could you tell I wasn't
from England?" "Cuz yr an asshole."
Which means Charlie would be right at home if he moved to Australia.
-paghat the ratgirl
Charlie Wilkes
(paghat) wrote:
>In article <3a2a042...@news.m.iinet.net.au>, pa...@replytogroup.com
>(Paul) wrote:
>
>> You come from a country that can't even elect a leader and you call US
>> assholes....
>> Paul
>
>I used to work in an open shop that attracted a lot of Aussies & Brits.
>Now & then some obnoxious shithead of a tourist would attempt to impose a
>"quiz" on me, in a very loud voice demanding: "Guess where I'm from by my
>accent!" "Australia" I'd say. "That's right! How could you tell I wasn't
>from England?" "Cuz yr an asshole."
Hork! Good line. Tear 'em up, Paggie!
>
>Which means Charlie would be right at home if he moved to Australia.
>
Now that's just plain mean.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>The US might have subsidised some things just after WW2 and in the
>early 1950's , I know that there was a lot of US products imported into
>aust around those years and off course aust brought a lot of US military
>stuff from the 1950s - 1970s
>
>Because of the debt aust clocked up in WW2 , aust exported a lot of beef
>, butter and other farm products to the UK and perhaps to the US on a
>subsidy to repay the debt.
>The produce sent to the UK was extremely cheap compared to the prices
>of that in aust.
>This subsidy to the UK went on for aprox 20 years and ended in the
>1960s -70s.
>
Yes, well, subsidies to the U.K. don't exactly wipe out the debt on my
side of the pond, Groper. It looks like YOUR COUNTRY owes MY COUNTRY
some cut-price beef.
Charlie
Shea F. Kenny
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, but the policies set by those corporate arseholes will determine
>>how much you earn next year, or whether you even have a job. You can
>>numb your brain with the populist hokum that union thugs hand out to
>>keep peons in line, or you can confront the world as it honestly
>>exists.
>>
>You obviously don't know anything about aust industrial law , most wages
>in aust are set by a system of arbitration that involves the unions ,
>and also there a Safety Net of award wages and conditions.
<snippage>
Firstly, I don't see all that much difference between au and
am systems. Very few unions here bargain yearly contracts. Secondly,
you make it sound like au invented unions, contracts and
arbitration..... My guess is, you folks took our system and improved
it a tad or two....;-)
This has been, Lunar Network News....
paghat
> USA - the country of high school massacres and where they can't even
> elect a president.
> United States of ASSHOLES more like.
Australia. Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any
English-speaking nation. [source: U.N. World Crime Survey, & Australian
Forensic Psychiatry Conference]
In a democracy, if criminals predominate, criminals pass laws protecting
only themselves. That's why mace is illegal in Australia -- to make sure
rapists are safe.
Be proud. Be very proud.
-paghat the ratgirl
Charlie Wilkes
What they did was take a very bad socialistic system and implement it
on blind faith. The result has been an unmitigated disaster, and, as
Sandgroper himself admits, U.S. subsidies dating back to the 1940s are
all that has kept the leaky left-wing ship afloat ever since.
Charlie
paghat
<charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:35:51 GMT, Big_Don <big...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey! Don't bug Charlie, that was a good story.
> > Since F&SF lost focus, it's hard to get good stuff anymore....
> >
> What is F&SF?
Farting and Scattering Fudge.
-paghat the ratgirl
Charlie Wilkes
God-DAMN you can throw a punch! I'll be interested to see how the
roo-raping retardos try to wriggle out of this one.
Charlie
Paul Mitchum
> On 3 Dec 2000 07:20:46 GMT, Paul Raj Khangure <p...@digitaljunkie.net>
> wrote:
[..]
> >Please stop cross posting this shit between seattle.general and
> >wa.general
> >
> I will participate in whatever newsgroups I want, asshole.
Yeah, but did you mean to crosspost to Western Australia? I'd wager you
mean to crosspost to wash.general, which deals with Washington state.
--
"In a world full of lies / Which tug at the truth
I'm taking no sides.. Now I recognize you." -DS
"Embrace the darkness or killfile it." -Paghat
Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3 Dec 2000 07:20:46 GMT, Paul Raj Khangure <p...@digitaljunkie.net>
>> wrote:
>[..]
>> >Please stop cross posting this shit between seattle.general and
>> >wa.general
>> >
>> I will participate in whatever newsgroups I want, asshole.
>
>Yeah, but did you mean to crosspost to Western Australia? I'd wager you
>mean to crosspost to wash.general, which deals with Washington state.
HORK! You've LOST that bet, and if you know me, you know the penalty
for being wrong, Mr. Mitchum.
BONG-HIT!
Charlie
paghat
Mitchum) wrote:
> Charlie Wilkes <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>
> > On 3 Dec 2000 07:20:46 GMT, Paul Raj Khangure <p...@digitaljunkie.net>
> > wrote:
> [..]
> > >Please stop cross posting this shit between seattle.general and
> > >wa.general
> > >
> > I will participate in whatever newsgroups I want, asshole.
>
> Yeah, but did you mean to crosspost to Western Australia? I'd wager you
> mean to crosspost to wash.general, which deals with Washington state.
I assumed he crossposted to the Aussies because they've whinged about it
in the past which is reason enough to do it again.
Personally I rarely crosspost for any reason though I don't delete others'
crossposts when replying, except in cases of crossposting to groups like
alt.flames.nigger which are too juvenile even for me so I'll delete those.
My major criteria, however, for whether or not a crosspost is truly
appropriate is whether or not it results in something that entertains me.
Because I am personally entertained for this brief moment, it is
appropriate! Of course, later today it won't matter one way or the other,
as it is ultimately so unimportant only a whinging lout would complain. If
the Aussies are being trolled by so many wankers they can't enjoy their
own ng that's one thing, but griping about one comical thread suggests
only that they don't have much going on in their ng that can hold their
attention.
-paghat the ratgirl
AB
>pau...@reply2group.com wrote:
>
>> USA - the country of high school massacres
Hell-- we lose more kids to Football than to school shootings.
>> and where they can't even elect a president.
Australians can't either. Y'all get a poncy Prime Minister instead.
>> United States of ASSHOLES more like.
That's what I love about Australians. Butchest bunch'a poms around.
>Australia. Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any
>English-speaking nation. [source: U.N. World Crime Survey, & Australian
>Forensic Psychiatry Conference]
>
>In a democracy, if criminals predominate, criminals pass laws protecting
>only themselves. That's why mace is illegal in Australia -- to make sure
>rapists are safe.
Hm. I was wondering why they trumped up the Port Arthur incident
into a gun ban...
--
drop ego to email me
Paul Mitchum
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:26:04 -0800, mil...@usa.net (Paul Mitchum)
> wrote:
[..]
> >Yeah, but did you mean to crosspost to Western Australia? I'd wager you
> >mean to crosspost to wash.general, which deals with Washington state.
>
> HORK! You've LOST that bet, and if you know me, you know the penalty for
> being wrong, Mr. Mitchum.
>
> BONG-HIT!
Wow. Such a punishment.
paghat
<sho...@wantree.com.au> wrote:
> paghat wrote:
> >
> > Australia. Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any
> > English-speaking nation. [source: U.N. World Crime Survey, & Australian
> > Forensic Psychiatry Conference]
>
> Australia: Highest percentage of crimes against women successfully
> prosecuted by police force.
>
> Yes, it appears we have police that have enough time on their hands to
> solve crimes.
>
> Rather than taking the American approach of failing to investigate,
> therefore failing to prosecute, therefore reducing the number of
> recognised rapists.
>
> Steve
Good guess but no cigar.
The fact is only Russia imprisons more of its citizens than America. It's
a big industry here, locking people up, whether felons or petty criminals,
whether adult or child. Small towns are busy passing local tax exemptions
to attract more private prisons all across America to lock up as many
people as possible, & we're on the verge of acknowledging a new president
who wants to pick up the pace. It's nothing to be proud of because it is
so NON selective in who goes into the profit-motivated prison systems, but
one things sure, rapists have no easy meal ticket home here the way they
do in Australia.Here in the 1970s perhaps 2% of rapists were successfully
prosecuted. Australia doesn't even seem to be playing the catch-up game.
So you buttmunchkins might take some pride in not locking up excessive
numbers of people, but you can't pretend rapists are your exception
because. Your own loony Sporting Shooters Association of Australia is
tickled pink to report incidents of rape & murder on the rise since gun
confiscations occurred. Australian gay organizations are sending out
warnings to gay tourists worldwide that theoretically "heterosexual" men
are attacking & raping young gay men visiting Australia in increasing
numbers & the crime is never prosecuted. Non-English speaking women &
minors are at increasing risk each year in Australia. Feminist law
reformers in Australia have only been the brunt of jokes & hate-style
"snappy comebacks" about it being a "radical feminist agenda" with
"misandric feminist popoganda" for daring to bring to the forefront the
fact that rapes do NOT occur primarily in dark alleys & "real" rapists are
NOT usually strangers. Australian law is fantastically retro in addressing
any of this & it's been getting worse. One Australian scholarly position
paper I saw quoted America's total creep-out Andrea Dworkin as evidence
that Australian feminists shouldn't be listened to because look how fucked
up feminists are in America -- hell, it wasn't even a loony men's group
position paper, it was some professor giving advice to the courts. The
National Women's Health Policy in Australia has had NONE of its 1998
published concerns addressed so far, & very few of the issues in the 1990
report by the Australian Institue of Criminology's on violence against
women have even begun to be addressed in law or social reform.
By contrast in the United States rapes & murders are both in dramatic
declines -- though in terms of sheer numbers of murders at least, we're
still better at killing each other than you are, but you're the winners
for raping each other.
Well shit, the whitey-ass aspect of your country was founded by criminals,
so what's to be expected; it's lauded; it passes for blue-blood to be an
evil bastard from evil bastards; & while we're at it let's compare whose
country is the biggest shitpile for killing off natives -- ours for doing
it in armed conflicts, yours for hunting from horseback fleeing unarmed
runners -- "what'll we shoot today, Nigel me buggering mate, aborigines or
kangaroos."
Face it, you've a pro-crime masculine culture that deep in your national
psyche truly sucks & is monstrous. Even the Queen can barely tolerate
visits to Australia at decade-intervals. Your Australian Law Reform
Commission has analyzed why rape is overlooked in both matters of cultural
norms & the law & is virtually permitted as a normal behavior for Aussie
men. The reasons have been given as an historical absence of women in the
courts so that accumulative case laws do not adequately address these
issues; it having been historically impossible to even admit that one was
raped; the overall substance of the law in no way reflects women's
experience so that no strategies for reform can be derived from existing
law; & to this day the court processes a smaller percentage of cases which
are attempted to be brought in behalf of women whose only course then
becomes private litigation that they cannot afford. The Australian Law
Reform Commission in addressing these issues -- & note the ALRC is not a
feminist organization -- have said plainly & outright in their report on
Women in the Court & Tribunal System: "Current law in Australia is
unhelpful to the public interest advocate" so even if an attorney was
deeply devoted to taking more rape cases to court, fat fucking chance.
So two facts here: Per capita rapes are in no English-speaking nation
higher than in Australia (though Alaska considered separately comes
close), & second, rapists are pretty much guaranteed of NOT having to go
to court in Australia, let along going to court & being found guilty &
being punished for it.
There are several organizations attempting to fund new test cases now in
order to make up for their historical lack. And perhaps the improvements
in policing & court behavior that occured through the 1970s in America
will, by 2010 in Australia, actually begin to take form. But there aren't
many signs that that's going to be the case. And the damnable thing is I
bet I knew more about this than any of you Aussie poofs or you'd've had a
better argument on the tip of your tongue to defend your snarky self.
-paghat the ratgirl
Craig Dowell
Right Wing Fascist? I think you are a bit confused about who was in charge
of the branch of government that started the investigation into Zimmerman,
proposed the Clipper chip, and in 1997, signed an executive order on
"Administration of Export Control on Encryption Products," which forces
encryption suppliers to give the government "spare keys."
paghat
<richo...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote in message
> > I've had a few of her shit-kickin's too. Here is the most important
> > lesson I have learned: never, ever try to square off with her on
> > knowledge of the subject matter. That way lies sure disaster.
>
> The important lesson I've taken out of it so far is that Charlie can be
> swayed by irrational hogwash.
>
> Richard.
See, Chuckles taught you something already. Since you're too dumb to know
mucha-nuttin, just learn to say a couple parrot-words like "hogwash!"
(personally I'd prefer "Fuck you!" it's more honest) or simply croak like
a toad. If you don't even PRETEND to have enough braincells to form a
thought, then you don't risk having the stupidity of that thought
corrected.
-paghat
Sandgroper
>
>You should have read my follow-up, in which I corrected the egregious
>error through which I inadvertantly cast aspersions upon the Emerging
>Issues Task Force of the Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB).
>
This EITF is totally IRRELEVANT to a west australian Ng , so why in the
fuck do you post your crap to wa.general in the first place ???? , you
already know that wa.general is not a washington Ng.
We have names for people like you in aust that take a long time to learn
something , we call them Slows for slow learner.
Sandgroper
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Sandgroper
>>
>How typical of you that you immediately resort to an ad honimen
>attack, completely ignoring my RELEVANT comments about AUSTRALIAN
>corporate earnings quality. You do live in AUSTRALIA, don't you? Are
>you so limited intellectually that you find your own country's
>antequated GAAP to be of no interest whatever?
Who gives a stuff about the financial corporate crap and whether some
corporate arsehole can afford a new BMW for chrissy.
Go post your financial crap in
alt.financial.arseholes.ripOff.theWorkers.AndGreed.isGood
Sandgroper
>
>You should be glad I'm taking an interest in your backwards country.
>If it weren't for the massive U.S. subsidies to keep your socialist
>economy afloat, you people would have lapsed into third-world garbage
>picking decades ago.
US supplying aust with massive subsidies ?????
ROLF , you obviously don't have a frigging clue about aust do you ?.
The US DOES NOT subsidise aust in anything, like most yanks you don't
even know where aust is , let alone know anything about it's policies.
In fact it is the other way around , aust allows the US to have a few
communication bases in aust , it wasn't for aust , your defence
communication system and NASA would be stuffed.
Aust has a lot better social system than the US , at least in aust
people don't starve or get their heads blown off by a teenage gang
member off his face on crack.
Clean up your own frigging backyard first before you go mouthing off
about problems in other countries.
Sandgroper
>Ah, but the policies set by those corporate arseholes will determine
>how much you earn next year, or whether you even have a job. You can
>numb your brain with the populist hokum that union thugs hand out to
>keep peons in line, or you can confront the world as it honestly
>exists.
>
You obviously don't know anything about aust industrial law , most wages
in aust are set by a system of arbitration that involves the unions ,
and also there a Safety Net of award wages and conditions.
There is never a decrease in any award wages and conditions and these
conditions are set for a number of years , NOT yearly like your system.
Aust also has Workplace Agreements , but they still have a minimum set
of wages and conditions.
Aust also has a set of industrial laws called the Unfair Dismissal Law ,
this laws states that an employer has to have a good reason for sacking
a employee and they must provide proof and reason.
My union negotiates and gets all my award wages and conditions during
what is called a Enterprise Bargain Agreement (EBA) period where we can
take protected industrial action to get what we want , and we always get
what we want.
What I have read in other Ngs about your system of industrial law , it
really sucks , no wonder the US has a high crime rate , a lot of the
people are living on the poverty line while the corporate arseholes live
a life of luxury.
Sandgroper
>
>Ok, well I heard somewhere a long time ago that we did. But thanks
>for the correction.
The US might have subsidised some things just after WW2 and in the
early 1950's , I know that there was a lot of US products imported into
aust around those years and off course aust brought a lot of US military
stuff from the 1950s - 1970s
Because of the debt aust clocked up in WW2 , aust exported a lot of beef
, butter and other farm products to the UK and perhaps to the US on a
subsidy to repay the debt.
The produce sent to the UK was extremely cheap compared to the prices
of that in aust.
This subsidy to the UK went on for aprox 20 years and ended in the
1960s -70s.
Steve Hodges
>
> Yes, well, subsidies to the U.K. don't exactly wipe out the debt on my
> side of the pond, Groper. It looks like YOUR COUNTRY owes MY COUNTRY
> some cut-price beef.
We'd love to Charlie. Now if you can just get your government to stop
applying tariffs to Australian beef imports then you could enjoy beef at
the same low price we pay here in Australia.
Oh, did I mention that Australia's agricultural sector is not subsidised
like the American one?
Honestly, we're doing the best we can to help you.
Steve
Steve Hodges
Big_Don
Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:35:51 GMT, Big_Don <big...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey! Don't bug Charlie, that was a good story.
> > Since F&SF lost focus, it's hard to get good stuff anymore....
>
> What is F&SF?
Fantasy & Science Fiction, a monthly magazine.
All short stories, awesome stuff only one page long
sometimes, like your story about Detroit.
Dunno what happened, but about 15 yrs ago
they sort of ran out of good material and started
publishing totally weird worthless crap, so
I dropped my subscription. Haven't checked lately,
they might have gotten their act back together.....
Big Don
No IQ-75 LOOT Fiction ~~~!@!~~~
Paul
Vietnam even worse than you did.
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:37:21 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
<charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:47:36 GMT, pau...@reply2group.com (Paul) wrote:
>
>>USA - the country of high school massacres and where they can't even
>>elect a president.
>>United States of ASSHOLES more like.
>>
>I thought it was "arseholes" in your upside-down Australian
>vernacular.
>
>You should be glad I'm taking an interest in your backwards country.
>If it weren't for the massive U.S. subsidies to keep your socialist
>economy afloat, you people would have lapsed into third-world garbage
>picking decades ago.
>
>Charlie
>
PamB
news:3A2ACB5D...@wantree.com.au...
> Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> >
> > Yes, well, subsidies to the U.K. don't exactly wipe out the debt on my
> > side of the pond, Groper. It looks like YOUR COUNTRY owes MY COUNTRY
> > some cut-price beef.
>
> We'd love to Charlie. Now if you can just get your government to stop
> applying tariffs to Australian beef imports then you could enjoy beef at
> the same low price we pay here in Australia.
Please send Aussie beef to the states!! After living there for several years
I got used to really good beef for cheap prices. Sad to say guys, but even a
little butcher shop there has better quality beef than we're getting in the
finest restaurants in the states ... nevermind what we get in the grocery
stores.
And at 52 cents on the dollar, even with the shipping it has got to be a lot
cheaper for us to buy Aussie beef. It might also give our own beef producers
some competition so that they'll start providing us with better quality
meat. The same holds true for lamb. You can't believe how extremely cheap it
is in Australia compared to here.
Pam
idunno
Next time you have an exchange with paghat, would you please let me
know?
(I don't always read this n.g. and wouldn't want to miss it)
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
heh heh
Charlie Wilkes
(paghat) wrote:
>In article <3A2ACC6E...@wantree.com.au>, Steve Hodges
><sho...@wantree.com.au> wrote:
>
>> paghat wrote:
>> >
>> > Australia. Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any
>> > English-speaking nation. [source: U.N. World Crime Survey, & Australian
>> > Forensic Psychiatry Conference]
>>
>> Australia: Highest percentage of crimes against women successfully
>> prosecuted by police force.
>>
>> Yes, it appears we have police that have enough time on their hands to
>> solve crimes.
>>
>> Rather than taking the American approach of failing to investigate,
>> therefore failing to prosecute, therefore reducing the number of
>> recognised rapists.
>>
>> Steve
>
>Good guess but no cigar.
>
Steve,
I've had a few of her shit-kickin's too. Here is the most important
lesson I have learned: never, ever try to square off with her on
knowledge of the subject matter. That way lies sure disaster.
Charlie
Silver Gecko
"paghat" <spammers-...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
Sorry for coming across 'snarky' paghat, you're clearly the better person.
Richard.
Silver Gecko
> lesson I have learned: never, ever try to square off with her on
> knowledge of the subject matter. That way lies sure disaster.
The important lesson I've taken out of it so far is that Charlie can be
Jason Cornelius
>
> I've had a few of her shit-kickin's too. Here is the most important
> lesson I have learned: never, ever try to square off with her on
> knowledge of the subject matter.
Why? Most of it is made up drivel captured from the ether surrounding her
bottom.
Anyone can sound like they know a lot if they latch onto someone that knows
very little - ie. yourself.
Jason.
Jason Cornelius
news:itjj2tk2ah9o0rrs8...@4ax.com...
>
> It really depends on whether you were unethically, sneakily kicked out
> or not I think.
ROTFL!
Jason.
Henry McDaniel
> "Steve Hodges" <sho...@wantree.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3A2ACB5D...@wantree.com.au...
> > Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, well, subsidies to the U.K. don't exactly wipe out the debt on my
> > > side of the pond, Groper. It looks like YOUR COUNTRY owes MY COUNTRY
> > > some cut-price beef.
> >
> > We'd love to Charlie. Now if you can just get your government to stop
> > applying tariffs to Australian beef imports then you could enjoy beef at
> > the same low price we pay here in Australia.
>
> Please send Aussie beef to the states!! After living there for several years
> I got used to really good beef for cheap prices. Sad to say guys, but even a
> little butcher shop there has better quality beef than we're getting in the
> finest restaurants in the states ... nevermind what we get in the grocery
> stores.
Why don't you name some of these "finest restaurants in the states" ...
and expalin to me why we all have a right to get good beef "at cheap prices".
Apparently good beef *at cheap prices* isn't available in all markets.
And if you go outside of Seattle you'll find that the cost of beef is much
higher in other major cities.
I agree that your average restaurant serves fatty junk as beef... and then
adds insult by cooking it wrong. But not all restaurants are equal and I
*can* just go get lean beef at the market and make my own meal for far
less than it would cost to go to one of these restaurants you are likely to
have in mind.
-McDaniel
Silver Gecko
> mucha-nuttin, just learn to say a couple parrot-words like "hogwash!"
> (personally I'd prefer "Fuck you!" it's more honest) or simply croak like
> a toad. If you don't even PRETEND to have enough braincells to form a
> corrected.
Why would one mitigate risk of making an intellectual post when their
intention
was to strike a nerve with one Paghat?
Richard.
paghat
<richo...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Did you think you said something or was that intentionally nonsense?
-paggers
PamB
"Henry McDaniel" <henry_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3A2B3C73...@hotmail.com...
You know sometimes I think people don't really read a post. Or perhaps I
wasn't as clear as I thought I was. <sigh>
No we don't have a "right" to get good beef at cheap prices. I never said we
did. I simply said that while living in Australia I enjoyed the best beef I
have ever eaten and the price was cheaper than what I could buy in grocery
stores here. I, like most people, like to pay less for things whenever
possible.
No I wasn't saying all restaurants are equal. Almost nothing in life is
"equal". I read somewhere that the best restaurants get a higher quality of
beef than is available to us in the stores. I do NOT know if this is true.
My reference was simply that I enjoyed eating in some very nice restaurants
in the country and thought the meat was good until I was in Australia and
had theirs.
I wasn't discussing eating in restaurants vs. eating at home. I was simply
discussing the quality of the beef available to the Australian and American
consumers NOT who prepares it.
I can only speak from experience and mine is obviously different from yours.
That doesn't make my experiences any more valid than yours. Just different.
If you know of a good place to buy meat in the Seattle area, please let me
know. (I really mean that.) In the meantime we're enjoying the wonderful
seafood Seattle has.
Pam
Mr Orsm
> You should be glad I'm taking an interest in your backwards country.
> If it weren't for the massive U.S. subsidies to keep your socialist
> economy afloat, you people would have lapsed into third-world garbage
> picking decades ago.
you idiot.
[not NO smiley]
Mr Orsm.
--
where as once i was blind... now i can see.
my homepage: http://i.am/orsm
my icq: 33187084
my mbox: +61 8 9238 2493
Mr Orsm
>
>
> [not NO smiley]
note... that was meant to be "note" not not.
he he
Dragon
Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 07:01:45 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
> <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>
> >MARCH 18 2003
> >
> >You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
> >guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
> >Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
> <snip>
> >A laptop screen glows in the corner. You could terminate the
> >detonation by opening a password-protected interface and issuing
> >simple commands -- if you had the password.
> >
> >But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
> >the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
> >of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
> >name of "individual liberties."
> >
> >Think about it.
> >
> >Charlie
Thinks - likelihood and probabilities.
Am I ever likely to shoot the leader of the Revolutionary Christian Army in
downtown Detroit next to a Nuclear bomb timed to go off in two hours?
Or would I prefer to send correspondence to colleagues without every server
reading and decoding my messages?
Tough call - let me think about it for a while....
<Dragon>
Dragon
> You should be glad I'm taking an interest in your backwards country.
> If it weren't for the massive U.S. subsidies to keep your socialist
> economy afloat, you people would have lapsed into third-world garbage
> picking decades ago.
Oi - don't let your responses to a few West Aussies become generalised
into economic trash.
<Dragon>
Sandgroper
>In article <3a2a6a3a...@news.m.iinet.net.au>,
pau...@reply2group.com wrote:
>
>Australia. Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any
>English-speaking nation. [source: U.N. World Crime Survey, & Australian
>Forensic Psychiatry Conference]
>
protecting
>only themselves. That's why mace is illegal in Australia -- to make
sure
>rapists are safe.
>
Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any country shows that the
aust police are very efficient at catching rapists , you can't have rape
statistics unless the crime is reported and investigated.
On the other hand , the yank cops are too busy with their war against
drugs , gangs ,muggings , shootings or are just too frigging busy to
worry about crimes like rape and perhaps a lot of rape cases are either
never reported or go un-investigated and this affects the rape
statistics and gives a false impression.
Dragon
Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I've had a few of her shit-kickin's too. Here is the most important
> lesson I have learned: never, ever try to square off with her on
> knowledge of the subject matter. That way lies sure disaster.
>
> Charlie
<Collects Asbestos suit from drycleaners>
I noticed a lot of opinion and editorial, but no actual references in her post.
Not that I am taking sides - I will leave you lot alone now.
Cheers,
<Dragon>
Sandgroper
>>
>side of the pond, Groper. It looks like YOUR COUNTRY owes MY COUNTRY
>some cut-price beef.
Yeah well , then tell your Gov to stop imposing massive tariffs on aust
beef , lamb , wheat and a whole range of other farm products that have
been proven to be of better quality than the US products.
pdt
>
> If > the Aussies are being trolled by so many wankers they can't enjoy their
> own ng that's one thing, but griping about one comical thread suggests
> only that they don't have much going on in their ng that can hold their
> attention.
>
> -paghat the ratgirl
pdt rote (ha):
Hell no - please keep up the crossposting u lot - some of the stuffs
pretty bloody interesting - some of its a load of crap - but thats ngs 4
u!
cheers, pdt
--
< .......and everyday the paperboy brings more ......... c u on the ds
ov the moon ............. >
<% Remove the bees when replying ! %>
Steve Hodges
paghat wrote:
>
> > Rather than taking the American approach of failing to investigate,
> > therefore failing to prosecute, therefore reducing the number of
> > recognised rapists.
> The fact is only Russia imprisons more of its citizens than America.
And your point is? China executes more people than the US for white
collar crime.
We've all seen how corrupt the police forces in the US are. How they
ignore or invent evidence to help prosecute cases. It's probably
partially because they're under so much pressure. Rather than
investigating and solving crimes they focus on putting people away.
> So you buttmunchkins might take some pride in not locking up excessive
> numbers of people,
Sadly we DO lock up far too many people.
> but you can't pretend rapists are your exception
> because.
Well they are an exception. I'm certainly not sad they're locked up.
Should I be?
> Your own loony Sporting Shooters Association of Australia is
> tickled pink to report incidents of rape & murder on the rise since gun
> confiscations occurred.
1) Loony - Correct.
2) They couldn't use statistics to fight their way out of a wet paper
bag
3) Guns were not confiscated.
Perhaps you should look further than the NRA for your information.
> Australian gay organizations are sending out
> warnings to gay tourists worldwide that theoretically "heterosexual" men
> are attacking & raping young gay men...
Hmmm, let me count the times we've had people tied to the back of trucks
and driven along tracks, or tied to fences and beaten to death?
> & second, rapists are pretty much guaranteed of NOT having to go
> to court in Australia, let along going to court & being found guilty &
> being punished for it.
Aaah, I get it, you're from another planet. Sheesh!
> And the damnable thing is I
> bet I knew more about this than any of you Aussie poofs
Why do you feel the need to descend to name calling. Just a few
paragraphs earlier you were championing gay rights, and now you use the
term as one of derision?
It seems you're just another troll. Oh well.
Steve
paghat
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> paghat wrote in message ...
> >In article <3a2a6a3a...@news.m.iinet.net.au>,
> pau...@reply2group.com wrote:
> >
> >Australia. Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any
> >English-speaking nation. [source: U.N. World Crime Survey, & Australian
> >Forensic Psychiatry Conference]
> >
> >In a democracy, if criminals predominate, criminals pass laws
> protecting
> >only themselves. That's why mace is illegal in Australia -- to make
> sure
> >rapists are safe.
> >
> Highest percentage of rapists per capita of any country shows that the
> aust police are very efficient at catching rapists ,
> you can't have rape
> statistics unless the crime is reported and investigated.
All one learns from criminal justice stats is conviction numbers & no one
serious goes by that. Stats from places like Adelaide University, medical
& social welfare organizations, include statistical sampling, survey, &
gathering of absolute numbers from physical & mental health sources,
permitting analytical studies for occurrence of rape, sexual
discrimination, child abuse, neglect, & molestation, sexual harrassment, &
includes not just felonious forms of sexual abusiveness that MIGHT draw
down the law (though less likely to do so in Australia), but also a lot
stuff that is "merely" a profound nuisance. The recent Aussie stats that
Australia's gun-nuts have so delighted in & distributed widely, that
showed an unbelievable doubled rate of rape after gun confiscation were
based on statistical projections founded on surveys not policing stats --
didn't look like a well controlled study to me so probably an exaggerated
outcome, but less severe statistical findings are still the worst in the
English-speaking world. Since the Aussie courts have an ingrained
traditional tendency to dismiss cases brought in behalf of women, the
criminal prosecution stats compared to the actual incident of rapes as
reported in forensic psychiatry reports suggests one critical fact about
Australia: Not only are women (& even some men) vastly more apt to be
raped there than in England, Canada, or the US, but the odds of justice in
the court system are very low. In any case statistical sampling in
controlled studies don't require policing stats, though stats from
criminal justice sources are certainly helpful & for a few countries the
only thing easily accessible to go on, though for US Canada England &
Australia there are enough stats generated by the medical & educational
institutions to draw better conclusions.
A fact-based or reasoned defence for Australia men could be made, & since
the crew in wa lacked sufficient brain-matter to do so credibly, let me
help. In the US & Canada, studies have shown that a rapist is apt to have
at least 70 victims before he is caught, four times that many isn't
uncommon. It's not the sort of crime where you fuck someone against their
will & that's it, your numbers up. It's easy to get away with. If
hard-evidence provable-in-court cases add up to "three counts of rape" you
can bet the prosecutor knew there were dozens others in that rapists'
background. Though I've not seen similar studies about numbers raped per
rapist in Australia, some hypotheses can be laid with even the limited
information: since the government's own reports admit it is nigh on
impossible for women to get justice in the court system unless they can
afford civil channels & even then with difficulty, the implication is
rapists get away with it WAY longer, hence the low-end of per-rapist
assaults would be that much higher than in the US & Canada -- North
American "low-end" average of 70 must be closer to the high-end average of
HUNDREDS per rapist down-under.
Thus the ineptitude & disinterest in dealing with rapists within the
criminal justice system in Australia could itself be the source of the
incredibly high incidence of rape in Australia; it doesn't HAVE to mean
that more Aussies are rapists, just that the men who ARE rapists will
continue their behavior uninterupted throughout life. It's a good
hypothesis, & probably it has been studied by some institution though I
didn't spot it. The other hypothesis would be that a nation founded by
criminals has more felons at large & a masculine pride & acceptance of
their worst national traits -- but I would lean toward believing the
ineffectuality & disininterest in effective prosecution of rape, & lack of
swift intervention even in medical & social welfare cases, just makes each
rapist a vastly larger ongoing risk to Australian women & children.
-paghat the ratgirl
> On the other hand , the yank cops are too busy with their war against
> drugs , gangs ,muggings , shootings or are just too frigging busy to
> worry about crimes like rape and perhaps a lot of rape cases are either
> never reported or go un-investigated and this affects the rape
> statistics and gives a false impression.
>
>
paghat
<sho...@wantree.com.au> wrote:
> And your point is? China executes more people than the US for white
> collar crime.
Finally, something in China worthy of praise.
[clippity]
> Why do you feel the need to descend to name calling.
Because it's amusing.
> Just a few
> paragraphs earlier you were championing gay rights, and now you use the
> term as one of derision? It seems you're just another troll. Oh well.
I wasn't aware Aussie dinkuses preferred political correctness, you
faggy-ass smear of poofter-ooze.
-paghat the ratgirl
> Steve
Clave
> In article <uovk2tghh94fptegf...@4ax.com>, Charlie Wilkes
> <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:35:51 GMT, Big_Don <big...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey! Don't bug Charlie, that was a good story.
> > > Since F&SF lost focus, it's hard to get good stuff anymore....
> > >
>
>
> > What is F&SF?
>
Puts his remark about "firing off a brown bullet" in a new light. I'm not
sure I'd want a girl who was impressed by that either.
Jim
Shea F. Kenny
(paghat) wrote:
>See, Chuckles taught you something already. Since you're too dumb to know
>mucha-nuttin, just learn to say a couple parrot-words like "hogwash!"
>(personally I'd prefer "Fuck you!" it's more honest) or simply croak like
>a toad. If you don't even PRETEND to have enough braincells to form a
>thought, then you don't risk having the stupidity of that thought
>corrected.
Good advice pags....... Now, take it and run like hell back
to you outhouse......;-)
This has been, Lunar Network News....
Charlie Wilkes
(paghat) wrote:
>In article <3a2b4acf$0$10...@motown.iinet.net.au>, "Silver Gecko"
><richo...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>Did you think you said something or was that intentionally nonsense?
>
>-paggers
I noticed this last night. The explanation is that Mr. Rootardo here
doesn't know what "mitigate" means. Pathetic, isn't it?
Charlie
Harper Hill
> Good advice pags....... Now, take it and run like hell back
>to you outhouse......;-)
Hmmm... pot -> kettle -> ...
Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
>paghat wrote:
>>
>> If > the Aussies are being trolled by so many wankers they can't enjoy their
>> own ng that's one thing, but griping about one comical thread suggests
>> only that they don't have much going on in their ng that can hold their
>> attention.
>>
>> -paghat the ratgirl
>pdt rote (ha):
>Hell no - please keep up the crossposting u lot - some of the stuffs
>pretty bloody interesting - some of its a load of crap - but thats ngs 4
>u!
>cheers, pdt
I checked out wa.general before I started this. I noticed that more
than half of the posts were from Australians flooding their own
newsgroup with complaints to and about U.S. crossposters.
I thought, in a just world, this kind of stupidity ought to hurt at
least a little. And that's when I started crossposting to wa.general.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
<richo...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote in message
>> >> Why would one mitigate risk of making an intellectual post when their
>> >> intention
>> >> was to strike a nerve with one Paghat?
>> >>
>> >> Richard.
>> >
>> >Did you think you said something or was that intentionally nonsense?
>> >
>> >-paggers
>>
>> I noticed this last night. The explanation is that Mr. Rootardo here
>> doesn't know what "mitigate" means. Pathetic, isn't it?
>
>Maybe it was nonsese, but..
>Enlighten me Charlie, what does mitigate mean?
>
>Richard.
>
To mitigate means to reduce the impact of something. To mitigate risk
means to lessen it or limit its extent. However, you appear to be
asking, "Why would anyone ~take~ the risk of an intellectual post if
their intention is (merely) to strike a nerve with Paghat?"
Mitigate is one of those baroque, latinate words used in business and
law, where it has a precise meaning in certain contexts. Some
undergraduate writers use it to lend an air of phony scholasticism to
whatever their message might be, and I suspect this was your
intention. The effect was doubly silly, however, because you used a
pretentious word in a context where it cannot possibly make sense.
Charlie
Shea F. Kenny
wrote:
Hardly. I can back up the things I say. Can you? And I mean
with something beyond juvenile insinuation, like the above?
paghat
<richo...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote in message
> > >> Why would one mitigate risk of making an intellectual post when their
> > >> intention
> > >> was to strike a nerve with one Paghat?
> > >>
> > >> Richard.
> > >
> > >Did you think you said something or was that intentionally nonsense?
> > >
> > >-paggers
> >
> > I noticed this last night. The explanation is that Mr. Rootardo here
> > doesn't know what "mitigate" means. Pathetic, isn't it?
>
> Maybe it was nonsese, but..
> Enlighten me Charlie, what does mitigate mean?
>
> Richard.
I know! I know! It's a gate with small dog named Miti peeing on it.
-paghat
paghat
Hill <harpe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Shea F. Kenny writes:
>
> > Good advice pags....... Now, take it and run like hell back
> >to you outhouse......;-)
>
> Hmmm... pot -> kettle -> ...
More like the retard calling the genius stupid.
-paghat the exceedingly smart little ratty
Clave
<...>
> p.p.s. Farewell Seattle
Ass/screen door, etc.
Jim
paghat
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> paghat wrote in message ...
> >
> >A fact-based or reasoned defence for Australia men could be made, &
> since
> >the crew in wa lacked sufficient brain-matter to do so credibly, let me
> >help. In the US & Canada, studies have shown that a rapist is apt to
> have
> >at least 70 victims before he is caught, four times that many isn't
> >uncommon. It's not the sort of crime where you fuck someone against
> their
> >will & that's it, your numbers up. It's easy to get away with. If
> >hard-evidence provable-in-court cases add up to "three counts of rape"
> you
> >can bet the prosecutor knew there were dozens others in that rapists'
> >background. Though I've not seen similar studies about numbers raped
> per
> >rapist in Australia, some hypotheses can be laid with even the limited
> >information: since the government's own reports admit it is nigh on
> >impossible for women to get justice in the court system unless they can
> >afford civil channels & even then with difficulty, the implication is
> >rapists get away with it WAY longer, hence the low-end of per-rapist
> >assaults would be that much higher than in the US & Canada -- North
> >American "low-end" average of 70 must be closer to the high-end average
> of
> >HUNDREDS per rapist down-under.
> >
>
> 70 victims before he is caught ???? , this figure may happen in the US &
> Canada but it NEVER happens in aust.
I'm not TOO surprised you're that stupid, but a little. Reality surprises
people who have no knowledge whatsoever, but if there is any brain matter
to work with, it's easily "realized" that sexual behavior is sexual
behavior. Someone who is gay doesn't just have sex one time with someone
of the same sex; someone who is straight doesn't fuck his wife or her
husband once & that's it; child molestors don't slip once & do a little
kid; & rapists don't get caught quickly acting out THEIR sexual
orientation either. And when your mommy caught you wacking off in the
sink, you may have HOPED she believed it was the first & only time you
masturbated, but it was probably about the five-thousandth. So yes, what
I said is true. You may not like it, you may be too dimwittedly dense to
believe it, but it's sadly true.
-paghat the ratgirl
> Now I know you are spinning the bullshit ,
[further complete lack of intelligence or knowledge deleted]
paghat
Cornelius" <ja...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> "paghat" <spammers-...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:spammers-die-pagha...@soggy70.drizzle.com...
> >
> > Reality surprises
> > people who have no knowledge whatsoever
>
> My God! You must be absolutely astounded!
>
> Jason.
Actually since finding UseNet years ago I've grown accustomed to
encountering brainmatterless dweebs with no visible means of thought & am
no longer astounded that guys like you can actually tie your shoes, though
I was pretty amazed for the first couple weeks.
-paghat
Paul Hovnanian
>
> MARCH 18 2003
>
> You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
> guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
> Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
>
> estimated by intelligence services to have a 15 megaton yield. The
> bomb is set to go off in two hours. Above, on the streets, the
> evacuation of Detroit is turning into a full-fledged panic as accurate
> reports of the problem begin to circulate. You can hear shots being
> fired at this moment.
>
> A laptop screen glows in the corner. You could terminate the
> detonation by opening a password-protected interface and issuing
> simple commands -- if you had the password.
>
> But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
> the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
> of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
> name of "individual liberties."
>
> Think about it.
No sweat. If I have a couple of extra rounds left, just put a couple
of holes in the bomb. Thermonuclear devices are amazingly fragile
devices.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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Personnaly, I'm against people who give vent to their loquacity by
exteraneous bombastic circumlocution.
Silver Gecko
Silver Gecko
> means to lessen it or limit its extent. However, you appear to be
> asking, "Why would anyone ~take~ the risk of an intellectual post if
> their intention is (merely) to strike a nerve with Paghat?"
>
> Mitigate is one of those baroque, latinate words used in business and
> law, where it has a precise meaning in certain contexts. Some
> undergraduate writers use it to lend an air of phony scholasticism to
> whatever their message might be, and I suspect this was your
> intention. The effect was doubly silly, however, because you used a
> pretentious word in a context where it cannot possibly make sense.
I believe you exaggerated my intent of the message somewhat, none-the-less
your posts are always a great read. How does the saying go? 'Ask a
question and be a fool for 5 minutes or forever remain a fool'. I'm not
going to attempt to argue with you, but if you have kids and they start
posting to wa.general, oh are they going to get a flaming ;-)
Richard.
Steve Hodges
>
> I wasn't aware Aussie dinkuses preferred political correctness, you
> faggy-ass smear of poofter-ooze.
Phew, for a minute there I thought this newsgroup was descending into
serious discussion!
But it's gratifying to note that you gave up first :-)
Steve
p.s. Oooooh, I'm offended!
p.p.s. Farewell Seattle
Charlie Wilkes
Thank you for your support. Yours is an excellent principle and a
good labor saving tactic. If you think something may be so, but you
aren't sure, express it as a flat, arrogant assertion and post it on
Usenet. Research assistants will soon materialize to annotate your
work with scrupulous attention to fact. I employ this tactic in
seattle.general and occasionally elsewhere.
This assumes, of course, that you don't mind personal insults. They
never bother me because I am safely anonymous. As John F. Kennedy
famously observed, "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot
at without result."
He also said, "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of
them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."
Charlie
Sandgroper
>
since
>the crew in wa lacked sufficient brain-matter to do so credibly, let me
>help. In the US & Canada, studies have shown that a rapist is apt to
have
>at least 70 victims before he is caught, four times that many isn't
>uncommon. It's not the sort of crime where you fuck someone against
their
>will & that's it, your numbers up. It's easy to get away with. If
>hard-evidence provable-in-court cases add up to "three counts of rape"
you
>can bet the prosecutor knew there were dozens others in that rapists'
>background. Though I've not seen similar studies about numbers raped
per
>rapist in Australia, some hypotheses can be laid with even the limited
>information: since the government's own reports admit it is nigh on
>impossible for women to get justice in the court system unless they can
>afford civil channels & even then with difficulty, the implication is
>rapists get away with it WAY longer, hence the low-end of per-rapist
>assaults would be that much higher than in the US & Canada -- North
>American "low-end" average of 70 must be closer to the high-end average
of
>HUNDREDS per rapist down-under.
>
70 victims before he is caught ???? , this figure may happen in the US &
Canada but it NEVER happens in aust.
Now I know you are spinning the bullshit , there isn't really many
criminals that is active enough to get 70 convictions of anything , let
alone anywhere near this figure for rape victims in aust.
It looks like your so called statistics for aust are either horseshit or
that it comes from some study done by whacko feminist academia that are
out of touch with reality and have twisted the facts to suit their own
agenda.
I don't know about the US , but rape and sexual assault is regarded as a
serious crime in aust and gets dealt with fairly quickly and efficiently
, mainly because the police hate this type of crime just as much as
murder and will go out of their way to get the criminal.
You can not just use US statistics and them MAKE ASSUMPTIONS about aust
based on these figures because the social structure ,class , system and
circumstances in aust is totally and completely different to the US.
The US has 7 times the population of aust , even having this large
difference of population changes the whole social structure and
psychological makeup of the people , particularly since you have this
crap about "The right to bear arms" and that half the population is
lugging around guns itching to blow someone's head off.
Studies in the 1960's have shown that having a very large population and
overcrowding causes people to become overly aggressive toward each other
which in turn relates back to people committing criminal acts toward
other.
I think your statistics about aust are out of touch with reality.
Jason Cornelius
news:j1WW5.504$_x3.2...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net...
>
> Ass/screen door, etc.
You seem to know the routine well.
Jason.
Jason Cornelius
Henry McDaniel
> You know sometimes I think people don't really read a post. Or perhaps I
> wasn't as clear as I thought I was. <sigh>
You mean if someone makes a point that you hadn't thought of or which
wasn't your point it's an indication of poor reading on their part?
> No we don't have a "right" to get good beef at cheap prices. I never said we
> did. I simply said that while living in Australia I enjoyed the best beef I
> have ever eaten and the price was cheaper than what I could buy in grocery
> stores here. I, like most people, like to pay less for things whenever
> possible.
I caution you that such talk moves dangerously close to being unamerican.
Or at the very least anti-Seattle. Both may lead to severe punishments if
proven in the court of public opinion.
> No I wasn't saying all restaurants are equal. Almost nothing in life is
> "equal". I read somewhere that the best restaurants get a higher quality of
> beef than is available to us in the stores. I do NOT know if this is true.
> My reference was simply that I enjoyed eating in some very nice restaurants
> in the country and thought the meat was good until I was in Australia and
> had theirs.
Calling kangaroo beef is illegal. Can you prove that the meat you ate was
not infact from the pouched species? I hope you enjoyed eating long doe.
Savage.
[...]
> If you know of a good place to buy meat in the Seattle area, please let me
> know. (I really mean that.) In the meantime we're enjoying the wonderful
> seafood Seattle has.
Seriously: Go to any major market chain and look for lean beef -- unless
you want more fat (some people do). If you've never looked for good meat
in a market before take someone with you who has. Never, ever place all
of your faith in the date labels markets put on the food. The good stuff
will either be on top of the pile or on the bottom. Then it's all about
judging the color. Green is bad ;)
And just to test out your taste buds walk into a sleezy mom and mom's
boyfriend shop and buy ground beef late at night whilst wearing sunglasses.
Then you'll have something dead and smelly to compare to the good stuff
at the other markets.
-McDaniel
Henry McDaniel
> MARCH 18 2003
>
> You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
> guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
> Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
>
> A massive apparatus fills most of the room. It is a hydrogen bomb
> estimated by intelligence services to have a 15 megaton yield. The
[...]
> But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
> the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
> of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
> name of "individual liberties."
>
> Think about it.
Do you build strawmen for a hobby or is it your professional occupation?
-McDaniel
Charlie Wilkes
I am a self-employed aggregator of pre-owned beverage containers.
Usenet is just a hobby.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
<Pa...@Hovnanian.com> wrote:
>Charlie Wilkes wrote:
>>
>> MARCH 18 2003
>>
>> You are in the cavernous sub-basement of an office building in the
>> guts of downtown Detroit. You have just shot the leader of the
>> Revolutionary Christian Army, and he lies dead at your feet.
>>
>> A massive apparatus fills most of the room. It is a hydrogen bomb
>> estimated by intelligence services to have a 15 megaton yield. The
>> bomb is set to go off in two hours. Above, on the streets, the
>> evacuation of Detroit is turning into a full-fledged panic as accurate
>> reports of the problem begin to circulate. You can hear shots being
>> fired at this moment.
>>
>> A laptop screen glows in the corner. You could terminate the
>> detonation by opening a password-protected interface and issuing
>> simple commands -- if you had the password.
>>
>> But, thanks to Phil Zimmerman and the left-wing anarchist fanatics at
>> the EITF, you don't have the password, and you never will. Many tens
>> of thousands, probably including yourself, are going to die in the
>> name of "individual liberties."
>>
>> Think about it.
>
>No sweat. If I have a couple of extra rounds left, just put a couple
>of holes in the bomb. Thermonuclear devices are amazingly fragile
>devices.
Not the way I build them.
Charlie
Sandgroper
>I'm not TOO surprised you're that stupid, but a little. Reality
surprises
>people who have no knowledge whatsoever, but if there is any brain
matter
>to work with, it's easily "realized" that sexual behavior is sexual
>behavior. Someone who is gay doesn't just have sex one time with
someone
>of the same sex; someone who is straight doesn't fuck his wife or her
>husband once & that's it; child molestors don't slip once & do a little
>kid; & rapists don't get caught quickly acting out THEIR sexual
>orientation either. And when your mommy caught you wacking off in the
>sink, you may have HOPED she believed it was the first & only time you
>masturbated, but it was probably about the five-thousandth. So yes,
what
>I said is true. You may not like it, you may be too dimwittedly dense
to
>believe it, but it's sadly true.
Do you always base your arguments of "Guilt by Association" and "
anybody that disagrees with your thinking is dim-witted and stupid" ?
I suspect you are one of these hairy legged feminist/lesbian
psychological bitches with a mission in life to put down and attack any
male that doesn't conform to the feminist/lesbian doctrine.
All you have done is pick facts and figures off a website somewhere
or out of your hairy arse) about the **USA incidences** of sexual
assault and then tried to equate these figures to aust without any
regard to what the actual aust social , class and political structure is
like , it is completely different to the US and the US whacko way of
life.
And then you have the audacity to start calling me "dim-witted" and
"stupid" because I don't agree with your contrived facts.
You are what is known as a intellectual illiterate
PamB
"Henry McDaniel" <henry_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3A2C8E06...@hotmail.com...
> PamB wrote:
>
> > You know sometimes I think people don't really read a post. Or perhaps I
> > wasn't as clear as I thought I was. <sigh>
>
> You mean if someone makes a point that you hadn't thought of or which
> wasn't your point it's an indication of poor reading on their part?
No I mean when someone puts words in your mouth that you never said. An
occupational hazard in an ng. LOL
> > No we don't have a "right" to get good beef at cheap prices. I never
said we
> > did. I simply said that while living in Australia I enjoyed the best
beef I
> > have ever eaten and the price was cheaper than what I could buy in
grocery
> > stores here. I, like most people, like to pay less for things whenever
> > possible.
>
> I caution you that such talk moves dangerously close to being unamerican.
> Or at the very least anti-Seattle. Both may lead to severe punishments if
> proven in the court of public opinion.
>
Actually of all the places I've lived Seattle is where I'd like to stay when
my traveling days are over. And after living for almost 4 years outside of
the USA, I've decided I'll stick to the states thank you. Visiting a country
is nice, but for me the only place I want to live is here. That said I still
repeat that there are a lot of things that American can improve on as we all
know cause we sure love to argue about it. LOL
> > No I wasn't saying all restaurants are equal. Almost nothing in life is
> > "equal". I read somewhere that the best restaurants get a higher quality
of
> > beef than is available to us in the stores. I do NOT know if this is
true.
> > My reference was simply that I enjoyed eating in some very nice
restaurants
> > in the country and thought the meat was good until I was in Australia
and
> > had theirs.
>
> Calling kangaroo beef is illegal. Can you prove that the meat you ate was
> not infact from the pouched species? I hope you enjoyed eating long doe.
> Savage.
The average Aussie does not eat roo. They either use it as pet food or ship
it overseas for human consumption as exotic meat. Kangaroos are considered a
pest in many areas of Australia because of all the damage they do. And that
silly Paul Hogan commercial showing a roo on a leash is another joke on
Americans. A roo is not like a deer. They're damn dangerous.
Hey I wouldn't even buy roo meat at the pet store to feed my Dalmatians. I
helped my friend Chris try to save a joey whose mom had been shot by a
hunter. Actually there were twin joeys but the little male didn't survive
but a few hours. Anyway, after spending time with all the joeys she cares
for, I just can't look at a roo and see meat on the hoof (hmm meat on the
bounce?). Yea I know it's hyprocritical of me. I suspect that if I lived on
a farm I would wind up a vegetarian.
And no I didn't eat roo by mistake thinking it was beef. Aussies are very
strict about how their meat is labeled and roo meat looks very different
from beef.
>
> [...]
>
> > If you know of a good place to buy meat in the Seattle area, please let
me
> > know. (I really mean that.) In the meantime we're enjoying the wonderful
> > seafood Seattle has.
>
> Seriously: Go to any major market chain and look for lean beef -- unless
> you want more fat (some people do). If you've never looked for good meat
> in a market before take someone with you who has. Never, ever place all
> of your faith in the date labels markets put on the food. The good stuff
> will either be on top of the pile or on the bottom. Then it's all about
> judging the color. Green is bad ;)
I've been to Larry's Market, QFC, and Safeway and their meat just doesn't
measure up. Yes I know how to look for lean meat. We tried a butcher shop in
Redmond but their meat didn't look fresh with all the discoloration we saw.
Yea green is bad LOL and I don't expect to see that here. It's just that if
I hadn't bought and tasted Aussie beef I wouldn't have known the difference.
For example, I used to buy fish in Iowa and no matter where I bought it the
fish smelled fishy. My friends there didn't know what I was talking about
because that's the way fish always smells to them. But living in Seattle YOU
know the difference.
Pam
Shea F. Kenny
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>You are what is known as a intellectual illiterate
Well, that doesn't quite work because she can obviously read
and write. Due to those simple facts, we in sg prefer the term,
propagandist.
Now, please stay in line with the terminology of sg. We found
her first and have total dibs on name calling. Plus the fact it's
much easier to maintain unity and reduces petty arguments amongst
ourselves. Which actually is their main purpose in all of this in the
first place. I mean, there are so many lines of attack against
people like this, it's sometimes difficult to figure out which tack to
take.
Lastly, if this shining star of diplomacy doesn't clearly
illustrate why I'm mayor, I'll happily step down.
But, due to recent legislation, I'll still be mayor.....;-)
paghat
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> hopping like a 'roo wrote:
> Do you always base your arguments of "Guilt by Association" and "
> anybody that disagrees with your thinking is dim-witted and stupid" ?
In your case "a person who lacks rudimentary knowledge."
> I suspect you are one of these hairy legged feminist/lesbian
> psychological bitches with a mission in life to put down and attack any
> male that doesn't conform to the feminist/lesbian doctrine.
Sounds sexy to me. Now try "you fucking christ-killing jew" which is
equally apropos.
> you have the audacity to start calling me "dim-witted" and
> "stupid".
Being observant isn't the same as audaciousness.
> You are what is known as a intellectual illiterate
As known to a fool such as yourself with buckshot in your fanny.
-paggers
Clave
news:3a2c7c3b$0$19429$7f31...@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au...
Yep. We get assholes like that around here all the time.
Jim
paghat
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> Ho Hum , looks like your are a intellectual snob as well.
Hardly. Can't take much pride in being smarter than a dumb jackass such
yourself. My favorite Sumerian fable addresses this topic:
The Fox said to the Bird, "There's food behind that rock."
The Bird went & looked behind the rock then flew back to the Fox.
"There's no food behind that rock" said the Bird
"Yes there is, there's food behind that rock."
The bird flew away & looked again.
The Ox said, "The Fox thinks she's clever. She can outwit a bird."
-paggers
Charlie Wilkes
<stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Shea F. Kenny wrote in message
><0b3q2tsb6s9gp0sak...@4ax.com>...
>>On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:44:48 +0800, "Sandgroper"
>><stev...@Quokka.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>You are what is known as a intellectual illiterate
>>
>> Well, that doesn't quite work because she can obviously read
>>and write. Due to those simple facts, we in sg prefer the term,
>>propagandist.
>>
HORK!
"Shea and Groper, sitting in a tree
Kay-Eye-Ess-Ess-Eye-En-Gee!"
>
>A intellectual illiterate is a academic/uni educated person that has
>spent too much time in the world of academia learning higher education
>and has neglected to learn the basics of the lower education.
>
>A lot of these people are unable to do or understand things like
>logical thought and reasoning , simple maths , spelling , interpersonal
>skills and other basic skills that a normal person in the workforce
>uses.
>Also a lot of these people can memorise and recall a lot of academic
>stuff , but they do not understand what they are talking about.
>
>A example of this would be "The Absent Minded Professor"
>
Another example, Paggie, would be an Aussie sport who doesn't have the
sense to rope down a passing 'roo in the daylight in case he's in the
mood for love later on. Happens all the time, even among the seasoned
bunch in the outback. Midnight comes and they have to get out their
rifles and jacklights and resort to necrophilia.
**********************************************************************************
"There's an old Australian stockman lying, dying. He gets himself up
onto one elbow and 'e turns to his mates, who are all gathered around
and 'e says:
Watch me wallabies feed, mate
Watch me wallabies feed,
They're a dangerous breed, mate
So watch me wallabies feed
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
Keep me cockatoo cool, Curl,
Keep me cockatoo cool
Ah, don't go acting the fool, Curl
Just keep me cockatoo cool
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
an' take me koala back, Jack
Take me koala back
He lives somewhere out on the track, Mac
So take me koala back
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
Let me abos go loose, Lew
Let me abos go loose
They're of no further use, Lew
So let me abos go loose
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
And mind me platypus duck, Bill
Mind me platypus duck
Ah, don't let 'im go running amok, Bill
Just mind me platypus duck
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
Play your didgeridoo, Blue
Play your didgeridoo
Ah, like, keep playin' 'til I shoot thru, Blue
Play your didgeridoo
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
Tan me hide when I'm dead, Fred
Tan me hide when I'm dead
So we tanned his hide when he died, Clyde
And that's it hangin' on the shed!!
Altogether now! --
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, SPORT!
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
*************************************************************
Yours in service to Australian culture,
Charlie
Shea F. Kenny
<luna...@kvi.fanz.net> wrote:
> But, due to recent legislation, I'll still be mayor.....;-)
I'm sorry folks. Tsk, Where is my head???? I meant, recent
bench rulings......
Shea F. Kenny
Yeah, I'll give this a thumbs up. I mean, it's pretty
illustrative of charlie having his thumb up, somewhere...