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Subject: [SpinLyme] Kaiser & CDC - Inappropriate Collaborations
Date: Dec 1, 2008 5:27 AM
Thank you. I will pass it along.
The world is catching on that the CDC should not
be believed about anything. They're as less-than-
worthless to The People as the CIA.
'Too stupid to be an intelligence agency. 'Too sick
in the head to be trusted with any information.
Tuskegee Bad Blood, fungal "vaccines," "Lyme Disease,"
and vaccines-induced encephalitis in one out of 160 babies
are quite enough, thanks.
When BigPharma has to train the *entire* US Medical world,
and at that, the truth from the plain old regular
Analytical Chem Division - and Analytical is no-brainer
chemistry - it's too pathetic for words.
'There aren't any words. The English dictionary don't go
that low.
Kathleen M. Dickson
===========================
To: Spin...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SpinLyme] Kaiser & CDC - Inappropriate Collaborations
Date: Nov 30, 2008 11:40 PM
"Perhaps the most infamous Kaiser/CDC collaboration was the fraudulent
enrollment
of minority low-income children in a harmful measles vaccine trial
done in the early
1990's. "
"MEASLES VACCINE EXPERIMENTS ON
MINORITY CHILDREN TURN DEADLY "
http://www.nvic.org/History/Newsletters/nlr696.htm
http://letters.kaiserpapers.info/january2008.html#CDC
The Kaiser/CDC Morgellons Collaboration
Morgellons is a disease that has garnered widespread attention in the
past few years.
The cause of the disease is unknown. The most significant aspect of
the disease
is the growth of multicolored fibers erupting from lesions in the
skin. Many patients
with Morgellons also have documented Lyme disease, and Morgellons
patients typically
have symptom overlap with Lyme disease.
This disease is not a new disease. In the past doctors have dismissed
Morgellons
sufferers with a diagnosis of delusional parasitosis - a psychiatric
condition in
which a patient believes parasites are crawling in their bodies. I
know one Morgellons
sufferer who is an intelligent, normal professional and was given this
diagnosis.
Dismissive use of the term "delusional parasitosis" should be a red
flag
that signifies the uninformed, uncaring doctors who parrot this
diagnosis to hide
their ignorance and laziness.
The Centers for Disease Control has awarded Kaiser Permanente a grant
to study Morgellons
in their patient population in Northern California. The CDC uses
Kaiser for studies
because of their captive member base. All, or most, records for health
care received
reside at Kaiser and can be retrieved. In addition, patients included
in clinical
trials can be easily tracked. This also avoids the expense of
enrolling people
in clinical trials or studies.
It is more than likely that this study will validate the theorem
"garbage in,
garbage out." One potential flaw is the probability that inadequate
care has
affected the reliability of information contained in patient records.
An example
that would relate to this study is the fact that many (and perhaps
all) Morgellons
sufferers also have Lyme disease.
Kaiser's attitude of Lyme denial is documented in Kaiser Papers and
elsewhere.
It is highly unlikely that Kaiser members who have complained of
Morgellons have
ever received a Lyme blood test by Kaiser. And in the event that they
have, Kaiser's
serodiagnostic Lyme test is wholly unreliable and will almost always
result in
a negative reading for West Coast members in particular. So the
association of Morgellons
with Lyme disease will not be made.
I am very skeptical that this study will result in anything helpful to
the Morgellons
community and may, in fact, be harmful. In all likelihood, this study
will be tailored
to suit a desired outcome: denial that Morgellons is a real disease.
Some Morgellons
patients who have been badly treated by Kaiser have stated that they
will not participate
in this study. Whether or not Kaiser will go ahead anyway and use data
from their
medical records without their permission is unknown.
The links below provide some informative articles worth reading
relating to this
study.
U.S. orders study of bizarre Morgellons condition
(AssociatedPress)
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/01/27/health/
16_49_561_25_08.txt
NIELS LETTER TO THE CDC
Subject: why is CDC using a lyme-denialist organization to study Lyme-
related Morgellons?
http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?
board=priority& action=display&thread=1188617937
One question that must be asked is where is Kaiser reporting this
income they generate
from using their captive member base and member records for studies
such as these?
They are not separately reported in Kaiser's financial filings. This
would include
income from not only government agencies but also drug companies and
other for-profit
entities as well.
Perhaps the most infamous Kaiser/CDC collaboration was the fraudulent
enrollment
of minority low-income children in a harmful measles vaccine trial
done in the early
1990's.
MEASLES VACCINE EXPERIMENTS ON
MINORITY CHILDREN TURN DEADLY
http://www.nvic.org/History/Newsletters/nlr696.htm
The integrity of the CDC should be questioned along with that of
Kaiser Permanente.
It is unfortunate for the nation that an increasing number of health
care advocates
in specialty areas are now discrediting the CDC as a source of
reliable information.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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bmi...@newstimes.com, tr...@hotmail.com, rast...@aol.com,
billc...@gmail.com, amcg...@rms-law.com, rjmu...@aol.com,
paulcrai...@yahoo.com, sidney_b...@yahoo.com,
criminal...@usdoj.gov, karla.d...@usdoj.gov,
christophe...@usdoj.gov, richar...@yale.edu,
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ly...@idsociety.org
Subject: [SpinLyme] Kaiser & CDC - Inappropriate Collaborations
Date: Dec 1, 2008 5:27 AM
Thank you. I will pass it along.
The world is catching on that the CDC should not
be believed about anything. They're as less-than-
worthless to The People as the CIA.
'Too stupid to be an intelligence agency. 'Too sick
in the head to be trusted with any information.
Tuskegee Bad Blood, fungal "vaccines," "Lyme Disease,"
and vaccines-induced encephalitis in one out of 160 babies
are quite enough, thanks.
When BigPharma has to train the *entire* US Medical world,
and at that, the truth from the plain old regular
Analytical Chem Division - and Analytical is no-brainer
chemistry - it's too pathetic for words.
'There aren't any words. The English dictionary don't go
that low.
Kathleen M. Dickson
===========================
To: Spin...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SpinLyme] Kaiser & CDC - Inappropriate Collaborations
Date: Nov 30, 2008 11:40 PM
"Perhaps the most infamous Kaiser/CDC collaboration was the fraudulent
enrollment
of minority low-income children in a harmful measles vaccine trial
done in the early
1990's. "
"MEASLES VACCINE EXPERIMENTS ON
MINORITY CHILDREN TURN DEADLY "
http://www.nvic.org/History/Newsletters/nlr696.htm
http://letters.kaiserpapers.info/january2008.html#CDC
The Kaiser/CDC Morgellons Collaboration
Morgellons is a disease that has garnered widespread attention in the
past few years.
The cause of the disease is unknown. The most significant aspect of
the disease
is the growth of multicolored fibers erupting from lesions in the
skin. Many patients
with Morgellons also have documented Lyme disease, and Morgellons
patients typically
have symptom overlap with Lyme disease.
This disease is not a new disease. In the past doctors have dismissed
Morgellons
sufferers with a diagnosis of delusional parasitosis - a psychiatric
condition in
which a patient believes parasites are crawling in their bodies. I
know one Morgellons
sufferer who is an intelligent, normal professional and was given this
diagnosis.
Dismissive use of the term "delusional parasitosis" should be a red
flag
that signifies the uninformed, uncaring doctors who parrot this
diagnosis to hide
their ignorance and laziness.
The Centers for Disease Control has awarded Kaiser Permanente a grant
to study Morgellons
in their patient population in Northern California. The CDC uses
Kaiser for studies
because of their captive member base. All, or most, records for health
care received
reside at Kaiser and can be retrieved. In addition, patients included
in clinical
trials can be easily tracked. This also avoids the expense of
enrolling people
in clinical trials or studies.
It is more than likely that this study will validate the theorem
"garbage in,
garbage out." One potential flaw is the probability that inadequate
care has
affected the reliability of information contained in patient records.
An example
that would relate to this study is the fact that many (and perhaps
all) Morgellons
sufferers also have Lyme disease.
Kaiser's attitude of Lyme denial is documented in Kaiser Papers and
elsewhere.
It is highly unlikely that Kaiser members who have complained of
Morgellons have
ever received a Lyme blood test by Kaiser. And in the event that they
have, Kaiser's
serodiagnostic Lyme test is wholly unreliable and will almost always
result in
a negative reading for West Coast members in particular. So the
association of Morgellons
with Lyme disease will not be made.
I am very skeptical that this study will result in anything helpful to
the Morgellons
community and may, in fact, be harmful. In all likelihood, this study
will be tailored
to suit a desired outcome: denial that Morgellons is a real disease.
Some Morgellons
patients who have been badly treated by Kaiser have stated that they
will not participate
in this study. Whether or not Kaiser will go ahead anyway and use data
from their
medical records without their permission is unknown.
The links below provide some informative articles worth reading
relating to this
study.
U.S. orders study of bizarre Morgellons condition
(AssociatedPress)
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/01/27/health/
16_49_561_25_08.txt
NIELS LETTER TO THE CDC
Subject: why is CDC using a lyme-denialist organization to study Lyme-
related Morgellons?
http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?
board=priority& action=display&thread=1188617937
One question that must be asked is where is Kaiser reporting this
income they generate
from using their captive member base and member records for studies
such as these?
They are not separately reported in Kaiser's financial filings. This
would include
income from not only government agencies but also drug companies and
other for-profit
entities as well.
Perhaps the most infamous Kaiser/CDC collaboration was the fraudulent
enrollment
of minority low-income children in a harmful measles vaccine trial
done in the early
1990's.
MEASLES VACCINE EXPERIMENTS ON
MINORITY CHILDREN TURN DEADLY
http://www.nvic.org/History/Newsletters/nlr696.htm
The integrity of the CDC should be questioned along with that of
Kaiser Permanente.
It is unfortunate for the nation that an increasing number of health
care advocates
in specialty areas are now discrediting the CDC as a source of
reliable information.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SpinLyme/
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