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Sarfatti's prediction on null dark matter detection holds so far

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Jack Sarfatti

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May 6, 2004, 12:07:15 AM5/6/04
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So far so good. Of course Paul Ginsparg did not let this prediction of
mine on the Cornell archive - that dark matter, like dark energy, is a
virtual zero point energy effect with w = -1 of positive quantum
pressure in contrast to dark energy with negative quantum pressure. The
clicking of a dark matter detector is forbidden in my theory - apart
from errors with false positives. However, my prediction is in my book
"Space-Time and Beyond II" copyrighted in Library of Congress and on
Amazon. Let's see if my prediction stands the test of time with more
experiments down the line.

I have repeatedly written that the dark matter detectors will show a
null effect as a matter of principle analogous to the null effect of the
Michelson-Morely experiment.


On May 5, 2004, at 8:47 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:

Hi Jack,

Sorry to hear about Vigier.

On a better note, thought this was good news for your idea:

http://www.nature.com/nsu/040503/040503-7.html

Particle no-show pans former find
Physicists unbowed as fail to detect dark matter.
6 May 2004
GEOFF BRUMFIEL


If a dark matter particle strikes the detector, it would cause it to
ring like a bell.
© Fermilab

The most powerful search yet for the Universe's missing matter has come
up empty handed, contradicting an earlier study that claimed to have
seen new particles.

Researchers from the Cryogenic Dark Matter Search II (CDMSII) say they
are pleased with their first results, which show that their detector is
working and set new constraints on how the so-far undetected matter can
behave, if it exists.

For decades, physicists and astronomers have known that conventional
particles of the type that make up atoms, stars and people only account
for a tiny fraction of the Universe's mass. The rest of the mass is
referred to as dark matter, as its identity is unknown. It is thought to
come from a variety of heavy particles that rarely interact with regular
matter and can pass through conventional objects unseen.

CDMSII has been looking for a type of theoretical particles called
weakly interactive massive particles, or WIMPs. If they are detected,
this would not only shed light on the mystery of dark matter, but would
also be good evidence for supersymmetry, a theory of physics that goes
beyond today's standard model.

Chilled out

The new detector is four times more sensitive than any previous
experiment. To shield it from high-energy particles from outer space,
the machine is based 700 metres underground in an abandoned iron mine in
Soudan, Minnesota. The detector is also chilled to within a tenth of a
degree of absolute zero to reduce vibrations from surrounding molecules.

The detector itself consists of sensors attached to six germanium and
silicon crystals. If a particle strikes one of the crystals, it causes
the crystal to ring like a bell, and the sensors detect the vibrations.

However since it started running in November last year, the detector has
not seen a single WIMP. The negative result puts an upper limit on the
number of interactions that can be occurring over a certain period of
time, says Harry Nelson, a physicist at the University of California,
Santa Barbara. He presented the results at the American Physical
Society's annual meeting in Denver, Colorado, on 3 May.

Elusive effect

That effectively contradicts the findings of DAMA, a less sensitive
experiment based at the National Laboratory of Gran Sasso, Italy, that
has been collecting data since 1996. Researchers there thought they
might have detected WIMPs. And they saw more particles in the summer
than in the winter, an effect that could have been caused by the Earth
travelling with or against the flow of cosmic dark particles.

But Nelson says that if those events were real, then the more sensitive
CDMSII should have seen 50 events for each one detected by DAMA. "If the
particles had been present, we are sure we would have seen them," he says.

Other results have cast doubt on DAMA's finding, but the data from
CDMSII are likely to be seen as conclusive evidence that the Italian
experiment did not spot a new particle. "[DAMA's finding] is essentially
dead," says Lawrence Krauss, a theoretical astrophysicist at Case
Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio.

Physicists with the CDMSII experiment say they will now add another 24
crystals to the detector, increasing its sensitivity tenfold. If they
still fail to find something, then theorists who believe in
supersymmetry may have to rethink their ideas. "CDMSII isn't exerting an
annoying pressure on theorists yet," says Nelson. "But they're starting
to feel it."


© Nature News Service / Macmillan Magazines Ltd 2004


Michael Varney

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May 6, 2004, 12:57:05 AM5/6/04
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"Jack Sarfatti" <sarf...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> So far so good. Of course Paul Ginsparg did not let this prediction of
> mine on the Cornell archive

Perhaps because you are a crackpot?


John Smith

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May 6, 2004, 1:53:16 AM5/6/04
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What a piece a work, I have translated it backwards, and upside down "kind
of"
but it sure make more sence now. Perhaps with further filtering, it will
reach an avareage value of letters, I bet it is somewhere around m or n or
p, so we can just a few pages of that.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Chui...@UCLA.karmaklub.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

4002 dtL senizagaM nallimcaM / ecivreS sweN erutaN ©

".ti leef ot
gnitrats er'yeht tuB" .nosleN syas ",tey stsiroeht no erusserp gniyonna
na gnitrexe t'nsi IISMDC" .saedi rieht knihter ot evah yam yrtemmysrepus
ni eveileb ohw stsiroeht neht ,gnihtemos dnif ot liaf llits
yeht fI .dlofnet ytivitisnes sti gnisaercni ,rotceted eht ot slatsyrc
42 rehtona dda won lliw yeht yas tnemirepxe IISMDC eht htiw stsicisyhP

.oihO ,dnalevelC ni ytisrevinU evreseR nretseW
esaC ta tsicisyhportsa laciteroeht a ,ssuarK ecnerwaL syas ",daed
yllaitnesse si ]gnidnif s'AMAD[" .elcitrap wen a tops ton did tnemirepxe
nailatI eht taht ecnedive evisulcnoc sa nees eb ot ylekil era IISMDC
morf atad eht tub ,gnidnif s'AMAD no tbuod tsac evah stluser rehtO

.syas eh ",meht nees evah dluow ew erus era ew ,tneserp neeb dah selcitrap
eht fI" .AMAD yb detceted eno hcae rof stneve 05 nees evah dluohs IISMDC
evitisnes erom eht neht ,laer erew stneve esoht fi taht syas nosleN tuB

.selcitrap krad cimsoc fo wolf eht tsniaga ro htiw gnillevart
htraE eht yb desuac neeb evah dluoc taht tceffe na ,retniw eht ni naht
remmus eht ni selcitrap erom was yeht dnA .sPMIW detceted evah thgim
yeht thguoht ereht srehcraeseR .6991 ecnis atad gnitcelloc neeb sah
taht ,ylatI ,ossaS narG fo yrotarobaL lanoitaN eht ta desab tnemirepxe
evitisnes ssel a ,AMAD fo sgnidnif eht stcidartnoc ylevitceffe tahT

tceffe evisulE

.yaM 3 no ,odaroloC ,revneD ni gniteem launna s'yteicoS
lacisyhP naciremA eht ta stluser eht detneserp eH .arabraB atnaS
,ainrofilaC fo ytisrevinU eht ta tsicisyhp a ,nosleN yrraH syas ,emit
fo doirep niatrec a revo gnirrucco eb nac taht snoitcaretni fo rebmun
eht no timil reppu na stup tluser evitagen ehT .PMIW elgnis a nees ton
sah rotceted eht ,raey tsal rebmevoN ni gninnur detrats ti ecnis revewoH

.snoitarbiv eht tceted srosnes eht dna ,lleb a ekil gnir ot latsyrc eht
sesuac ti ,slatsyrc eht fo eno sekirts elcitrap a fI .slatsyrc nocilis
dna muinamreg xis ot dehcatta srosnes fo stsisnoc flesti rotceted ehT

.selucelom gnidnuorrus morf snoitarbiv ecuder ot orez etulosba fo eerged
a fo htnet a nihtiw ot dellihc osla si rotceted ehT .atosenniM ,naduoS
ni enim nori denodnaba na ni dnuorgrednu sertem 007 desab si enihcam eht
,ecaps retuo morf selcitrap ygrene-hgih morf ti dleihs oT .tnemirepxe
suoiverp yna naht evitisnes erom semit ruof si rotceted wen ehT

tuo dellihC

.ledom dradnats s'yadot dnoyeb
seog taht scisyhp fo yroeht a ,yrtemmysrepus rof ecnedive doog eb osla
dluow tub ,rettam krad fo yretsym eht no thgil dehs ylno ton dluow siht
,detceted era yeht fI .sPMIW ro ,selcitrap evissam evitcaretni ylkaew
dellac selcitrap laciteroeht fo epyt a rof gnikool neeb sah IISMDC

.neesnu stcejbo lanoitnevnoc hguorht ssap nac dna rettam
raluger htiw tcaretni ylerar taht selcitrap yvaeh fo yteirav a morf emoc
ot thguoht si tI .nwonknu si ytitnedi sti sa ,rettam krad sa ot derrefer
si ssam eht fo tser ehT .ssam s'esrevinU eht fo noitcarf ynit a rof
tnuocca ylno elpoep dna srats ,smota pu ekam taht epyt eht fo selcitrap
lanoitnevnoc taht nwonk evah sremonortsa dna stsicisyhp ,sedaced roF

.stsixe ti fi ,evaheb
nac rettam detcetednu raf-os eht woh no stniartsnoc wen tes dna gnikrow
si rotceted rieht taht wohs hcihw ,stluser tsrif rieht htiw desaelp era
yeht yas )IISMDC( II hcraeS rettaM kraD cinegoyrC eht morf srehcraeseR

.selcitrap wen nees
evah ot demialc taht yduts reilrae na gnitcidartnoc ,dednah ytpme pu
emoc sah rettam gnissim s'esrevinU eht rof tey hcraes lufrewop tsom ehT

balimreF ©
.lleb a ekil gnir
ot ti esuac dluow ti ,rotceted eht sekirts elcitrap rettam krad a fI


LEIFMURB FFOEG
4002 yaM 6
.rettam krad tceted ot liaf sa dewobnu stsicisyhP
dnif remrof snap wohs-on elcitraP

lmth.7-305040/305040/usn/moc.erutan.www//:ptth

:aedi ruoy rof swen doog saw siht thguoht ,eton retteb a nO


reigiV tuoba raeh ot yrroS

,kcaJ iH

:etorw mukkeB .S yraG ,MP 74:8 ta ,4002 ,5 yaM nO


.tnemirepxe yleroM-noslehciM
eht fo tceffe llun eht ot suogolana elpicnirp fo rettam a sa tceffe llun
a wohs lliw srotceted rettam krad eht taht nettirw yldetaeper evah I

.enil eht nwod stnemirepxe
erom htiw emit fo tset eht sdnats noitciderp ym fi ees s'teL .nozamA
no dna ssergnoC fo yrarbiL ni dethgirypoc "II dnoyeB dna emiT-ecapS"
koob ym ni si noitciderp ym ,revewoH .sevitisop eslaf htiw srorre morf
trapa - yroeht ym ni neddibrof si rotceted rettam krad a fo gnikcilc
ehT .erusserp mutnauq evitagen htiw ygrene krad ot tsartnoc ni erusserp
mutnauq evitisop fo 1- = w htiw tceffe ygrene tniop orez lautriv
a si ,ygrene krad ekil ,rettam krad taht - evihcra llenroC eht no enim
fo noitciderp siht tel ton did grapsniG luaP esruoc fO .doog os raf oS


4002 dtL senizagaM nallimcaM / ecivreS sweN erutaN ©


".ti leef ot
gnitrats er'yeht tuB" .nosleN syas ",tey stsiroeht no erusserp gniyonna
na gnitrexe t'nsi IISMDC" .saedi rieht knihter ot evah yam yrtemmysrepus
ni eveileb ohw stsiroeht neht ,gnihtemos dnif ot liaf llits
yeht fI .dlofnet ytivitisnes sti gnisaercni ,rotceted eht ot slatsyrc
42 rehtona dda won lliw yeht yas tnemirepxe IISMDC eht htiw stsicisyhP

.oihO ,dnalevelC ni ytisrevinU evreseR nretseW
esaC ta tsicisyhportsa laciteroeht a ,ssuarK ecnerwaL syas ",daed
yllaitnesse si ]gnidnif s'AMAD[" .elcitrap wen a tops ton did tnemirepxe
nailatI eht taht ecnedive evisulcnoc sa nees eb ot ylekil era IISMDC
morf atad eht tub ,gnidnif s'AMAD no tbuod tsac evah stluser rehtO

.syas eh ",meht nees evah dluow ew erus era ew ,tneserp neeb dah selcitrap
eht fI" .AMAD yb detceted eno hcae rof stneve 05 nees evah dluohs IISMDC
evitisnes erom eht neht ,laer erew stneve esoht fi taht syas nosleN tuB

.selcitrap krad cimsoc fo wolf eht tsniaga ro htiw gnillevart
htraE eht yb desuac neeb evah dluoc taht tceffe na ,retniw eht ni naht
remmus eht ni selcitrap erom was yeht dnA .sPMIW detceted evah thgim
yeht thguoht ereht srehcraeseR .6991 ecnis atad gnitcelloc neeb sah
taht ,ylatI ,ossaS narG fo yrotarobaL lanoitaN eht ta desab tnemirepxe
evitisnes ssel a ,AMAD fo sgnidnif eht stcidartnoc ylevitceffe tahT

tceffe evisulE

.yaM 3 no ,odaroloC ,revneD ni gniteem launna s'yteicoS
lacisyhP naciremA eht ta stluser eht detneserp eH .arabraB atnaS
,ainrofilaC fo ytisrevinU eht ta tsicisyhp a ,nosleN yrraH syas ,emit
fo doirep niatrec a revo gnirrucco eb nac taht snoitcaretni fo rebmun
eht no timil reppu na stup tluser evitagen ehT .PMIW elgnis a nees ton
sah rotceted eht ,raey tsal rebmevoN ni gninnur detrats ti ecnis revewoH

.snoitarbiv eht tceted srosnes eht dna ,lleb a ekil gnir ot latsyrc eht
sesuac ti ,slatsyrc eht fo eno sekirts elcitrap a fI .slatsyrc nocilis
dna muinamreg xis ot dehcatta srosnes fo stsisnoc flesti rotceted ehT

.selucelom gnidnuorrus morf snoitarbiv ecuder ot orez etulosba fo eerged
a fo htnet a nihtiw ot dellihc osla si rotceted ehT .atosenniM ,naduoS
ni enim nori denodnaba na ni dnuorgrednu sertem 007 desab si enihcam eht
,ecaps retuo morf selcitrap ygrene-hgih morf ti dleihs oT .tnemirepxe
suoiverp yna naht evitisnes erom semit ruof si rotceted wen ehT

tuo dellihC

.ledom dradnats s'yadot dnoyeb
seog taht scisyhp fo yroeht a ,yrtemmysrepus rof ecnedive doog eb osla
dluow tub ,rettam krad fo yretsym eht no thgil dehs ylno ton dluow siht
,detceted era yeht fI .sPMIW ro ,selcitrap evissam evitcaretni ylkaew
dellac selcitrap laciteroeht fo epyt a rof gnikool neeb sah IISMDC

.neesnu stcejbo lanoitnevnoc hguorht ssap nac dna rettam
raluger htiw tcaretni ylerar taht selcitrap yvaeh fo yteirav a morf emoc
ot thguoht si tI .nwonknu si ytitnedi sti sa ,rettam krad sa ot derrefer
si ssam eht fo tser ehT .ssam s'esrevinU eht fo noitcarf ynit a rof
tnuocca ylno elpoep dna srats ,smota pu ekam taht epyt eht fo selcitrap
lanoitnevnoc taht nwonk evah sremonortsa dna stsicisyhp ,sedaced roF

.stsixe ti fi ,evaheb
nac rettam detcetednu raf-os eht woh no stniartsnoc wen tes dna gnikrow
si rotceted rieht taht wohs hcihw ,stluser tsrif rieht htiw desaelp era
yeht yas )IISMDC( II hcraeS rettaM kraD cinegoyrC eht morf srehcraeseR

.selcitrap wen nees
evah ot demialc taht yduts reilrae na gnitcidartnoc ,dednah ytpme pu
emoc sah rettam gnissim s'esrevinU eht rof tey hcraes lufrewop tsom ehT

balimreF ©
.lleb a ekil gnir
ot ti esuac dluow ti ,rotceted eht sekirts elcitrap rettam krad a fI


LEIFMURB FFOEG
4002 yaM 6
.rettam krad tceted ot liaf sa dewobnu stsicisyhP
dnif remrof snap wohs-on elcitraP

lmth.7-305040/305040/usn/moc.erutan.www//:ptth

:aedi ruoy rof swen doog saw siht thguoht ,eton retteb a nO

.reigiV tuoba raeh ot yrroS

,kcaJ iH

:etorw mukkeB .S yraG ,MP 74:8 ta ,4002 ,5 yaM nO


.tnemirepxe yleroM-noslehciM
eht fo tceffe llun eht ot suogolana elpicnirp fo rettam a sa tceffe llun
a wohs lliw srotceted rettam krad eht taht nettirw yldetaeper evah I

.enil eht nwod stnemirepxe
erom htiw emit fo tset eht sdnats noitciderp ym fi ees s'teL .nozamA
no dna ssergnoC fo yrarbiL ni dethgirypoc "II dnoyeB dna emiT-ecapS"
koob ym ni si noitciderp ym ,revewoH .sevitisop eslaf htiw srorre morf
trapa - yroeht ym ni neddibrof si rotceted rettam krad a fo gnikcilc
ehT .erusserp mutnauq evitagen htiw ygrene krad ot tsartnoc ni erusserp
mutnauq evitisop fo 1- = w htiw tceffe ygrene tniop orez lautriv
a si ,ygrene krad ekil ,rettam krad taht - evihcra llenroC eht no enim
fo noitciderp siht tel ton did grapsniG luaP esruoc fO .doog os raf oS
>
>


sean

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May 6, 2004, 7:29:31 AM5/6/04
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"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message news:<GAjmc.160$ki5....@news.uswest.net>...

Or as the new data suggests maybe both of you are a bit cracked.

Uncle Al

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May 6, 2004, 11:12:50 AM5/6/04
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Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> So far so good. Of course Paul Ginsparg did not let this prediction of
> mine on the Cornell archive
[snip]

Hey Jacko, when you were laughed off the podium at last year's APS
meeting... how did you avoid coming to certain conclusions? Uncle Al
spent 10 minutes on the podium this past Saturday and walked away with
an academic collaboration,

http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/abs/S690006.html
The abstract
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
The formal proposal

Who's got the big stiff techo-woodie, Jacko? Saddamn Hussein
unleashed the largest concentration of anti-aircraft interdiction over
Bagdhad in the history of the world at the opening of the first Gulf
War. He filled the skies with shells and shrapnel. He hit as many
planes as you have lucked into by psychotically predicting new
physics. None at all either way. Zero, zilch, nada. Not even
bupkis. NOTHING.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm
(Do something naughty to physics)

Eric Gisse

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May 6, 2004, 9:05:40 PM5/6/04
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Uncle Al <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<409A55F2...@hate.spam.net>...

> Jack Sarfatti wrote:
> >
> > So far so good. Of course Paul Ginsparg did not let this prediction of
> > mine on the Cornell archive
> [snip]
>
> Hey Jacko, when you were laughed off the podium at last year's APS
> meeting...

[snip]

Wow. He was laughed off the stage?

What was he talking about?

Uncle Al

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May 6, 2004, 9:52:01 PM5/6/04
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The usual: nothing at all, and at length. One presumes that was one
source of guffaws.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!

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