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JF Mezei

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Dec 25, 2011, 4:24:42 AM12/25/11
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Soyuz-2.1b from Plesetsk failed to reach orbit. Failure during 3rd stage.

The previous failure in August (a Soyuz-U) was also at 3rd stage, but
was using different engines for teh 3rd stage. The excuse for that
August failure was a blocked fuel line in 3rd stage.

Next Soyuz is scheduled for Dec 28 from Baikonour, launching 6
Globalstar satellites.

Brian Gaff

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Dec 25, 2011, 4:49:56 AM12/25/11
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Not having much luck of late are they?
I do believe that with these kind of things you do need quite a lot of
luck.

Brian

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bob haller

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Dec 25, 2011, 8:33:04 AM12/25/11
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On Dec 25, 4:49 am, "Brian Gaff" <Bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Not having much luck of late are they?
>  I do believe that  with  these kind of things you do need quite a lot of
> luck.
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> > Soyuz-2.1b from Plesetsk failed to reach orbit. Failure during 3rd stage.
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> > The previous failure in August (a Soyuz-U) was also at 3rd stage, but
> > was using different engines for teh 3rd stage. The excuse for that
> > August failure was a blocked fuel line in 3rd stage.
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> > Next Soyuz is scheduled for Dec 28 from Baikonour, launching 6
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you need good engineering too.

like monitoring at all times a rocket launch, dont design things so a
failed booster ignition obstructs a communication antenna, use a
worldwide standard comm frequency so the vehicle can be kept in
communication with.

quality control matters too!

russia needs a launch standown to review everything.

otherwise a soyuz failure could cost a crew.

Jeff Findley

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Dec 27, 2011, 2:07:34 PM12/27/11
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In article <jd6rk4$n5d$1...@dont-email.me>, Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk
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> Not having much luck of late are they?
> I do believe that with these kind of things you do need quite a lot of
> luck.

Finding the root cause for problems like this is a bit tricky when the
hardware is expendable. Intact abort and the ability to fix and re-fly
the same hardware is a distinct advantage of fully reusable launch
vehicles.

Jeff
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