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Brian Gaff

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Jun 9, 2012, 3:43:50 PM6/9/12
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It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
render them undetectable.

Brian

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Brad Guth

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Jun 15, 2012, 1:47:16 AM6/15/12
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On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster
and
> faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
> the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
> render them undetectable.
>
> Brian
>
> -->From the Bed of Brian Gaff.
>
> The email is valid as bria...@blueyonder.co.uk
> Blind user.

Gravity waves should be extremely long and low frequency.

Brad Guth

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Jun 16, 2012, 4:40:05 PM6/16/12
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On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster
and
> faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
> the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
> render them undetectable.
>
> Brian
>
> -->From the Bed of Brian Gaff.
>
> The email is valid as bria...@blueyonder.co.uk
> Blind user.

If given 5e55 kg as the mass of our known universe, and if there were
another equally massive universe, it doesn't take all that much math
to estimate what amount of force should exist between the two.

Gravitational Force Calculator
http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemical/gravitational.htm

Even at a center to center distance of 9.46e24 km 1.863e45 N


MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
Permitted, but we're starting to get into the land of grand speculation. GdM

Sylvia Else

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Jul 3, 2012, 11:04:26 PM7/3/12
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On 17/06/2012 6:40 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster
> and
>> faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
>> the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
>> render them undetectable.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -->From the Bed of Brian Gaff.
>>
>> The email is valid as bria...@blueyonder.co.uk
>> Blind user.
>
> If given 5e55 kg as the mass of our known universe, and if there were
> another equally massive universe, it doesn't take all that much math
> to estimate what amount of force should exist between the two.
>
> Gravitational Force Calculator
> http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemical/gravitational.htm
>
> Even at a center to center distance of 9.46e24 km =.863e45 N
>
>
> ===================================== MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
> Permitted, but we're starting to get into the land of grand speculation. GdM
>
I think "grand speculation" may understate it. The physical laws as we
understand them, and the constants that they contain, have been derived
from observations of the universe in which we live. There can be no
rationale at all for thinking that the laws apply in other universes, or
between universes, much less that the constants do.

Sylvia.

Brad Guth

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Jul 4, 2012, 7:18:59 PM7/4/12
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On Jul 3, 8:04 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
> On 17/06/2012 6:40 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding fast
er
> > and
> >> faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger t
han
> >> the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that wo
uld
> >> render them undetectable.
>
> >> Brian
>
> >> -->From the Bed of Brian Gaff.
>
> >> The email is valid as bria...@blueyonder.co.uk
> >> Blind user.
>
> > If given 5e55 kg as the mass of our known universe, and if there were
> > another equally massive universe, it doesn't take all that much math
> > to estimate what amount of force should exist between the two.
>
> > Gravitational Force Calculator
> > http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemical/gravitational.htm
>
> > Even at a center to center distance of 9.46e24 km .863e45 N
>
> > MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
> > Permitted, but we're starting to get into the land of grand specula
tion. GdM
>
> I think "grand speculation" may understate it. The physical laws as we
> understand them, and the constants that they contain, have been derived
> from observations of the universe in which we live. There can be no
> rationale at all for thinking that the laws apply in other universes, or
> between universes, much less that the constants do.
>
> Sylvia.

All observations are subjective, not to mention badly delayed and with
lots of dark matter and dark energy in between us and those
observations. No doubt there's physics we haven't taken into account.

What frequency is a gravity wave supposed to be?

How many gravity waves does matter generate?

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MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
These are questions you can google for yourself Brad. Allowed, but very quickly this discussion is heading to the kill status.

Brad Guth

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Nov 11, 2013, 12:46:49 PM11/11/13
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No wavelength is longer than those of gravity.


======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
Allowed for debate and correction, as gravity waves are suggested to have sub-atomic wavelengths, though none have yet been directly observed.

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