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simple.lan...@gmail.com

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Sep 6, 2008, 10:32:30 AM9/6/08
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kT

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Sep 6, 2008, 12:57:08 PM9/6/08
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simple.lan...@gmail.com wrote:

> http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/preparing_to_rescue_hubble.html

Hey! Nice shot of the SSME on the front page, the pinnacle of
technological achievement of the United States of America.

You *Americans* sure must be some complete idiots is you can't figure
out what to do with those 14 or so remaining space shuttle main engines.

YOU, congress, George W. Bush and Michael Griffin sure are dropping the
ball with respect to those space shuttle main engines, and their use in
next generation stage and a half, reusable launch vehicle development :

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/IPO.doc

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/


BradGuth

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Sep 6, 2008, 3:46:34 PM9/6/08
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On Sep 6, 7:32 am, simple.language.ya...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/preparing_to_rescue_hubble.html

It's all about posting lots of inert eye-candy, isn't it.

As artificially colorized as it can possibly get, and yet only minimal
resolution and monochrome images of our physically dark but otherwise
mineral rich Selene/moon.

Whatever the hype, smoke and mirrors it takes is all that you folks
really care about.

It’s all about your civil service jobs and retirement benefits that go
on and on forever, as representing your priority No.1.

~ BG

Eric Chomko

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Sep 8, 2008, 10:31:14 AM9/8/08
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On Sep 6, 3:46 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 7:32 am, simple.language.ya...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/preparing_to_rescue_hubble.html
>
> It's all about posting lots of inert eye-candy, isn't it.

You envy not being able to work on the shuttle yourself. I guess that
would be difficult from within the asylum.

>
> As artificially colorized as it can possibly get, and yet only minimal
> resolution and monochrome images of our physically dark but otherwise
> mineral rich Selene/moon.

When the sporting events photographers get bored and photogragh the
moon I guess they too are colorizing it?! Have you ever taken a look
at the moon through a telescope, Brad? It isn't dark where the sun
shines upon it!

> Whatever the hype, smoke and mirrors it takes is all that you folks
> really care about.

What is more interesting is your seemingly low self-esteem smugness.
Perhaps if you didn't have such low self-esteem, then maybe you
wouldn't see the world as a huge place that is out to get you.

> It’s all about your civil service jobs and retirement benefits that go
> on and on forever, as representing your priority No.1.

No, we like space and space exploration, but we need $$$ to live off
and want to retire one day as well. What do you do and where do you
get $$$ and will you ever retire?

Also, not everyone that works for the govt. is a civil servant, many
are contractors. I take it you are neither.

Eric

BradGuth

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Sep 9, 2008, 9:36:51 AM9/9/08
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There's no moon colorizing. Don't you get it?

JAXA intentionally removes their color/hue saturation.

Let us put a GeoEye orbiting at 64 km above the Selene surface,
include at least 4 color bandpass filters, or simply incorporate a
full spectrum color CCD along with a quality set of optical filters.
Just look at what TRACE accomplished with it's relatively little
camera and set of optical filters.

Being a civil service employee or one of their nondisclosure enforced
contractors is essentially one in the same boat, unless you and your
brown nose intends to play word games.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth


Eric Chomko

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Sep 9, 2008, 11:00:50 AM9/9/08
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Yeah, the moon looks anywhere from a pale yellow to whiteish gray.

>
> JAXA intentionally removes their color/hue saturation.
>
> Let us put a GeoEye orbiting at 64 km above the Selene surface,
> include at least 4 color bandpass filters, or simply incorporate a
> full spectrum color CCD along with a quality set of optical filters.
> Just look at what TRACE accomplished with it's relatively little
> camera and set of optical filters.

Better wait until LRO actually goes there next spring. You'll be able
to howl all
you want then.

>
> Being a civil service employee or one of their nondisclosure enforced
> contractors is essentially one in the same boat, unless you and your
> brown nose intends to play word games.

Nope. Not when it comes to receiving a retirement check every month.
The GSers get those until death, not so with contractors. Huge
difference!

Eric

BradGuth

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Sep 10, 2008, 2:33:27 AM9/10/08
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Don't really need to wait, as the JAXA/Selerne mission that’s offering
10 meter/pixel resolution with vastly superior dynamic range as well
as capable of bandpass color/hue spectrum saturation is more than good
enough. It seems our DARPA / NASA is nothing but an ongoing
perpetrated cold-war joke, as having been fully orchestrated at public
expense.

The best I can figure, is that our Apollo missions never set a human
foot upon our physically dark as coal but otherwise mineral rich
Selene/moon.

~ BG

Eric Chomko

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Sep 10, 2008, 12:19:16 PM9/10/08
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Yes, I know that is what you believe. LRO will prove you wrong. But
will you accept the truth this time around? One wonders...

BradGuth

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Sep 10, 2008, 3:54:25 PM9/10/08
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What's to wonder about? Our DARPA could have established a GeoEye
mission for orbiting our Selene/moon as of decades ago.

At a tenth the cost of one Apollo mission, this Selene/moon GeoEye
could have been orbiting at 64 km while mapping our moon in extreme
detail of 25 mm resolution, at ten fold better than film dynamic range
and offering as much mineral color/hue saturation as you'd like, at
least as of prior to 1990.

A Selene/moon L1 platform of Earth and moon science instruments could
have been established as of 1970, if not sooner than anything Apollo.

Our USAF had the fly-by-rocket expertise and the optical/camera spy
technology well enough nailed at the time, with replacements or
upgrades of significant technology improvements easily accomplished.

On the other hand, because you claim not being snookered or
dumbfounded, means that you are a systematic born-again liar of the
worse possible kind.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG

Eric Chomko

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Sep 11, 2008, 12:12:29 PM9/11/08
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Don't you mean LunaEye?

>
> At a tenth the cost of one Apollo mission, this Selene/moon GeoEye
> could have been orbiting at 64 km while mapping our moon in extreme
> detail of 25 mm resolution, at ten fold better than film dynamic range
> and offering as much mineral color/hue saturation as you'd like, at
> least as of prior to 1990.

25 mm? Surely you gest. What is the maximun resolution at 64km orbit
given today's technology?

> A Selene/moon L1 platform of Earth and moon science instruments could
> have been established as of 1970, if not sooner than anything Apollo.

We wanted Apollo and the moon to be based upon manned missions.

> Our USAF had the fly-by-rocket expertise and the optical/camera spy
> technology well enough nailed at the time, with replacements or
> upgrades of significant technology improvements easily accomplished.

But the Russians didn't, so how easy was it again?

> On the other hand, because you claim not being snookered or
> dumbfounded,  means that you are a systematic born-again liar of the
> worse possible kind.

No, you were told the truth and think you were lied to, that MAKES you
the dupe! Will you have the guts to admit it when the re-truth comes
out, is what I want to know.

Eric

BradGuth

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Sep 12, 2008, 1:10:16 AM9/12/08
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USAF spy satellites have been ten fold better than GeoEye, as based
upon the same operational altitude.

GeoEye at 684 km offers 16" (410 mm) resolution. At 68.4 km =
1.6"(41mm) raw per pixel (no PhotoShop enlargements required)

>
> > A Selene/moon L1 platform of Earth and moon science instruments could
> > have been established as of 1970, if not sooner than anything Apollo.
>
> We wanted Apollo and the moon to be based upon manned missions.

So, exactly when is that goal going to be accomplished?

You've missed and/or excluded the entire point of having the Selene/
moon L1 under our command.

>
> > Our USAF had the fly-by-rocket expertise and the optical/camera spy
> > technology well enough nailed at the time, with replacements or
> > upgrades of significant technology improvements easily accomplished.
>
> But the Russians didn't, so how easy was it again?

Don't underestimate them Russians, as they very much like to play war
games.

>
> > On the other hand, because you claim not being snookered or
> > dumbfounded, means that you are a systematic born-again liar of the
> > worse possible kind.
>
> No, you were told the truth and think you were lied to, that MAKES you
> the dupe! Will you have the guts to admit it when the re-truth comes
> out, is what I want to know.
>
> Eric

The laws of physics and best available science that's independently
peer replicated and doesn't have to exclude evidence is not a very
good lie, whereas your government and many agencies within is what
lies all the time.

Eric Chomko

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Sep 15, 2008, 10:01:13 AM9/15/08
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From wiki:
While GeoEye-1 is capable of imagery with details the size of 41
centimetres (16 in), Google will have access to details of 50
centimetres (20 in).

You simply can't manipulate numbers by a magnitude, Brad, to make your
point. You see THAT is the difference between science and being a
charlatan, as you are.

>
> > > A Selene/moon L1 platform of Earth and moon science instruments could
> > > have been established as of 1970, if not sooner than anything Apollo.
>
> > We wanted Apollo and the moon to be based upon manned missions.
>
> So, exactly when is that goal going to be accomplished?

July 20, 1969. Perhaps you slept through it.

>
> You've missed and/or excluded the entire point of having the Selene/
> moon L1 under our command.
>
>
>
> > > Our USAF had the fly-by-rocket expertise and the optical/camera spy
> > > technology well enough nailed at the time, with replacements or
> > > upgrades of significant technology improvements easily accomplished.
>
> > But the Russians didn't, so how easy was it again?
>
> Don't underestimate them Russians, as they very much like to play war
> games.
>

We both do.

>
> > > On the other hand, because you claim not being snookered or
> > > dumbfounded,  means that you are a systematic born-again liar of the
> > > worse possible kind.
>
> > No, you were told the truth and think you were lied to, that MAKES you
> > the dupe! Will you have the guts to admit it when the re-truth comes
> > out, is what I want to know.
>
>

> The laws of physics and best available science that's independently
> peer replicated and doesn't have to exclude evidence is not a very
> good lie, whereas your government and many agencies within is what
> lies all the time.

But not better than you do. Perhaps you think your lies won''t be
noticed if you spend all your time pointing out others as being liars.

>   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth - Charlatan
>

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