Secret Pixels of Venus / by Brad Guth
BradGuth
upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
our Venus surface images.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
so to speak.
Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
details of the Venus terrain are in fact quite visible and of
impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
kicking in.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
God (aka NASA), about how hot and nasty the planet Venus actually has
been geothermally created from the bottom up, for even that much to
happen one needs to appreciate the geothermal heat loss of Venus is
truly impressive, not to mention rather telling of a somewhat newish
or possibly renewed kind of formulated/reformulated planet that's in
the proto-Earth era, of the natural planetology doing its long drawn
out thing of cooling off the best it can, of which has been easier
said than done because if the mostly dry CO2 and highly insulative
layers of those S8 acidic clouds.
There is nothing of physics or via the best available cache of
existing science that actually forbids or otherwise excludes the
potential of Venus hosting other intelligent life, be that of a local
evolved species or especially on behalf of an ET (including us, though
obviously not in the buff) kind of sufficient intelligence that's
perfectly capable of existing/coexisting on Venus. Surviving the
toasty geothermal forced environment of Venus is simply not
insurmountable for anything but as interpreted by those faith-based
diehard nayism folks that simply can't ever admit to being wrong.
An Alternate View of Venus / by John Ackerman
http://www.firmament-chaos.com/papers/fvenuspaper.pdf
has this peer replicated science of thermal energy balance, on behalf
of the surplus energy outflow pegged at 21 w/m2, but I recall having
also seen this published as 20 w/m2, as well as other published
science as specifying upon the solar influx reaching the surface being
of less than 150 w/m2 out of the 2625~2660 w/m2 is not greater than
5.66% of solar potential, and much of which gets through to that
already toasty surface isn't even of the IR spectrum, and of course
you'd have to divide that in half because the nighttime season is not
exactly absorbing squat worth of solar photons.
The Planet Venus / By David Harry Grinspoon is yet another well enough
published resource of old but viable data that tells us we haven't a
purely atmospheric solar-induced greenhouse situation, even though
critical science data from multiple probes had been intentionally
removed/excluded so as to continually benefit the original solar-
atmospheric greenhouse as the one and only consideration, because
Venus is supposed to be of the exact same age and origin as Earth, as
having been stipulated by those faith-based conditional laws of
physics.
David Grinspoon quotes: http://thinkexist.com/quotes/david_grinspoon/
"We're ignorant of life in the universe. We only have one planet that
serves as an example and in science it's not good to derive
information from a sample size of one."
"We need more Venus missions to really answer the biggest mysteries
about the planet. Venus Express will be a great mission and will tell
us a lot about the planet, but I think to really make the next leaps
in understanding Venus we're going to have to do something more than
just orbit the planet. We need to take the plunge and explore the
clouds and the surface directly."
"They might do photosynthesis in the ultraviolet as opposed to the
visual spectrum. It's a tremendous amount of energy if you can make
use of it instead of being killed by it. It's unusual, but natural
selection makes the best out of adversity."
Often such worthy tidbits of scientific truths about Venus have been
published within Nature.com, then forever banished away from the
educational mindset and mainstream media that simply can't ever be
allowed to revise squat without breaking wind and igniting such.
ESA's Venus EXPRESS has been keeping itself unusually quiet these
days, as though there's a whole lot more to the Venus thermal energy
balance than had ever been previously allowed into the mainstream, as
to ponder along with any degree of our deductive reasoning is
apparently another big taboo.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> our Venus surface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
> "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
Stan Engel
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> You're an asshole."BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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And that special contribution of your best wisdom has what if anything
to do with the planet Venus?
Are you here only to topic/author stalk and bash, or would you like to
revise that opinion of yours and actually share a little something
that's topic related?
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> On Mar 7, 11:38 pm, "Stan Engel" <Stan_en...@yahoo.com> wrote:> You're an asshole."BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1027a93c-2952-4ae2-
>
>
>
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> And that special contribution of your best wisdom has what if anything
> to do with the planet Venus?
>
> Are you here only to topic/author stalk and bash, or would you like to
> revise that opinion of yours and actually share a little something
> that's topic related?
> . - Brad Guth
Apparently our Stan Engel is without words, as well as without physics
or science.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
Wow! folks here in this Usenet anti-think-tank are deathly afraid to
even look at Venus.
Must be of something Muslim or Islamic about the planet of Venus that
we're not supposed to look at, or otherwise deductively question.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> our Venus surface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
> "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
BradGuth
existing/coexisting on that planet is also officially taboo/off-
limits.
Apparently Usenet has laws against allowing deductive image
interpretation, thus whatever observationology is not going to fly
unless it's over each of their brown-nosed dead bodies.
It's much like being on a NO-FLY list that's intended for nailing or
killing off anything that's the least bit intelligent. Way to go
Google/NOVA Usenet.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> our Venus surface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
> "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
BradGuth
> You are replying to yourself, Brad? lmao!
>
> The GoofBall strikes again! lmao!
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:38:34 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> >> First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
> >> of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
> >> impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
> >> other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
> >> perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
> >> accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
> >> so to speak.
>
> >> Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
> >> or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
> >> interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
> >> somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
> >> observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
> >> details of the Venus terrain are in fact quite visible and of
> >> impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
> >> as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
> >> of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
> >> possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
> >> related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
> >> and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
> >> substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
> >> perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
> >> kicking in.
> >> - Brad Guth -
Unlike yourself, I'm willing to share the best available science as
based upon the regular laws of physics, as offered to the free world
that obviously you and others of your pretend-atheism kind do not want
any such free world to exist.
BTW, you never did say what scares you so about intelligent other life
existing/coexisting on Venus.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
dyslexic encrypted ways to share about Venus and our moon for the past
8+ years and counting, it seems there's lots more to behold about good
old Earth that's worth our knowing and sharing, such as the many
interesting discoveries and subsequent topics within the following
link:
www.beforeus.com
Other than deductively interpreting via observationology as to what
looks so perfectly intelligent/artificial of the Venus tarmac,
township/community of large structures, plus the surrounding
infrastructure and of that nearby bridge as looking so gosh darn
rational, I can't be absolutely certain about other intelligent life
still existing/coexisting on Venus, but at least the regular laws of
physics and of the best available science can't possibly exclude such,
because even us humans along with a sufficient degree of applied
technology could make a go of it, especially as representing ETs
capable of getting ourselves to/from Venus would in of itself offer
more than sufficient technological expertise for accommodating an
extended stay in spite of all that geothermally forced environment of
Venus being so geologically newish, hot and otherwise nasty from the
bottom up, and not as we've been told as being entirely greenhouse
roasted from the top down.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> our Venus surface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
> "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
BradGuth
> > should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> > enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> > unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> > you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> > naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> > denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> > not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
>
> > First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
> > of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
> > impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
> > other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
> > perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
> > accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
> > so to speak.
>
> > Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
> > or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
> > interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
> > somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
> > observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
> > details of the Venus terrain are in fact quite visible and of
> > impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
> > as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
> > of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
> > possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
> > related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
> > and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
> > substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
> > perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
> > kicking in.
> > -BradGuth-
Good freaking grief almighty on a stick, now my topics are getting
cloned, mugged and/or hijacked by those intent upon skewing the facts,
or trying every dirty trick in their infidel book in order to topic/
author stalk and bash, along with allowing of others to simply topic
spam the living crapolla out of these Google/NOVA Usenet Groups.
Of all the other sorts of gabi40, Clint Eastwood, susi40, susi40001,
susi40006, mirror server, kgkgjkgkgkfgk and perhaps countless other
trash or spam topics getting forced into the Usenet stack, whereas
oddly these silly clownish efforts do not seem to bother those in
charge of this or any other Usenet group. Why is that?
Are these clownish methods of stuffing or force-feeding topics as
faith-based approved, so as to intentionally block out or displace all
others, or is this Usenet Group trashing tactic merely of something
MI5/CIA approved?
All I know for certain, is if their Zionist puppet Hitler were still
alive, as such he'd be a very happy camper.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> Don't act DUMB with me, Brad! lmao!
>
> The word observation is enough...
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 23, 2:26 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Define observationology, Brad? lamo!
>
> >> Isn't observation enough?
>
> >> Saul Levy
>
> >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:30:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> >> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Other than deductively interpreting via observationology as to what
> >> >looks so perfectly intelligent/artificial of the Venus tarmac,
> >> >township/community of large structures, plus the surrounding
> >> >infrastructure and of that nearby bridge as looking so gosh darn
> >> >rational, I can't be absolutely certain about other intelligent life
> >> >still existing/coexisting on Venus, but at least the regular laws of
> >> >physics and of the best available science can't possibly exclude such,
> >> >because even us humans along with a sufficient degree of applied
> >> >technology could make a go of it, especially as representing ETs
> >> >capable of getting ourselves to/from Venus would in of itself offer
> >> >more than sufficient technological expertise for accommodating an
> >> >extended stay in spite of all that geothermally forced environment of
> >> >Venus being so geologically newish, hot and otherwise nasty from the
> >> >bottom up, and not as we've been told as being entirely greenhouse
> >> >roasted from the top down.
> >> >. - Brad Guth
>
OBSERVATIONOLOGY is a science that I'm good at, and obviously you are
not. Get over it.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> You just made up that term, Brad! lmao!
>
> You aren't fooling us. The term is meaningless.
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 23, 3:38 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Don't act DUMB with me, Brad! lmao!
>
> >> The word observation is enough...
>
> >> Saul Levy
> >not. Get over it.
> >. - Brad Guth
Was that another Saul Levy intellectual fart?
What's your best observation worth of a deductive interpretation, on
behalf of those radar multi-look per pixel images of Venus?
How would you interpret that very tarmac looking item, as based upon
whatever other geological examples as the basis for your superior
expertise in such matters?
Show us those images (side by side) that you go by.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> The exact opposite, Brad! lmao!
>
> You are just a WACKO NUTJOB! lmao!
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:26:19 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
In other words, you've still got nothing.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> What the fuck are you talking about now, Brad? lmao!
>
> Everything you write about is meaningless DRIVEL! lmao!
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 24, 8:59 am, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> You just made up that term, Brad! lmao!
>
> >> You aren't fooling us. The term is meaningless.
>
> >> Saul Levy
>
> >> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> >> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Mar 23, 3:38 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> Don't act DUMB with me, Brad! lmao!
>
> >> >> The word observation is enough...
>
> >> >> Saul Levy
> >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:30:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
> >> >OBSERVATIONOLOGY is a science that I'm good at, and obviously you are
> >> >not. Get over it.
> >> >. - Brad Guth
>
> >Was that another Saul Levy intellectual fart?
>
> >What's your best observation worth of a deductive interpretation, on
> >behalf of those radar multi-look per pixel images of Venus?
>
> >How would you interpret that very tarmac looking item, as based upon
> >whatever other geological examples as the basis for your superior
> >expertise in such matters?
>
> >Show us those images (side by side) that you go by.
> >. - Brad Guth
I see you're still having troubles with correctly posting to the
following list of groups:
sci.space.history, alt.astronomy, sci.astro, sci.space.policy,
soc.history.what-if
Perhaps you should fix that part of your computer that's clearly as
bigoted as yourself.
BTW, your pants are on fire (again), and whatever you do, don't fart
again until you put that fire out.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
>
> First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
> of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
> impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
> other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
> perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
> accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
> so to speak.
>
> Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
> or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
> interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
> somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
> observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
> details of the Venus terrain are in fact quite visible and of
> impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
> as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
> of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
> possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
> related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
> and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
> substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
> perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
> kicking in.
> - Brad Guth -
This topic belongs on top of the Usenet stack. If you are smarter
than a fifth grader, go right ahead and contribute something on behalf
of the planet Venus.
. - BG
BradGuth
> On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> > upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> > optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> > our Venus surface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> > Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> > intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> > the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> > frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> > so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> > community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> > should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> > enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> > unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> > you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> > naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> > denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> > not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
Interesting to notice all the usual mainstream damage-control via
those infowar spam topics, and of each having those key words so that
the public, various schools and private media are continually
snookered and otherwise getting summarily dumbfounded past the point
of no return.
Apparently folks in high places do not like this public Usenet, or
most any other public accessible forum going unchecked.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> community of structures with 'GUTH Venus', of which by all means you
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
>
> First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
> of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
> impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
> other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
> perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
> accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
> so to speak.
>
> Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
> or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
> interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
> somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
> observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
> details of the Venus terrain are in fact quite visible and of
> impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
> as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
> of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
> possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
> related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
> and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
> substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
> perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
> kicking in.
> - Brad Guth -
Compared to this terrestrial energy alternative that works it's
environmentally clean/renewable magic of giving us its solar thermal
and atmospheric pressure differential derived energy by way of each
sunny day, and as such capable of offering a clean 200 MW worth of
peak energy output, whereas at best isn't hardly worth 0.1% of what an
entirely similar vertical stack or vertical atmospheric wind and
pressure differential generating tower could produce on Venus, by day
or night.
World's first 200MW solar thermal power station using innovative Solar
Tower technology
http://www.enviromission.com.au/project/project.htm
This technology of basic physics, if it were instead getting applied
on Venus, except without any need of our having to create all of that
terrific surrounding surface area of an artificial greenhouse, as such
and with only a few appropriate chimney/stack modifications to this
vertical wind-tunnel, becomes worth a continuous (day or night) 200GW.
So, I'm still asking of those all-knowing, as well as of those in
charge of our private parts and most of our hard earned loot, as to
how many spare gigaWatts or teraWatts of such easily obtained local
energy that's perfectly clean and 100% renewable would they like, or
otherwise need on behalf of accommodating smart ETs or even of
dumbfounded humans surviving upon Venus?
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
frozen to death and nearly moon like vacuum of an old dead planet w/o
magnetosphere, as well as offering hardly a spare geothermal BTU or
accessible joule worth of core heat, as otherwise barely survivable by
way of whatever technology and energy is brought along for the ride
that's capable of keeping us frail humans alive until there's simply
not enough undamaged DNA to go around.
On the other hand, compared to this following terrestrial energy
alternative that works it's environmentally friendly form of clean/
renewable worth of low energy density footprint magic (on average
offering less than 0.5w/m2), of giving us its solar thermal and
atmospheric pressure differential derived energy by way of each sunny
day, and as such capable of offering a clean 200 MW worth of peak
energy output, whereas at best isn't hardly worth 0.1% of what an
entirely similar vertical stack or vertical atmospheric wind and
pressure differential generating tower could produce on Venus, except
continuously by day or night rather than peak limited as of high noon
on Earth.
World's first 200MW solar thermal power station using innovative Solar
Tower technology
http://www.enviromission.com.au/project/project.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Solar_updraft_tower.svg
This technology of basic applied physics in utilizing a one km tower
like wind-tunnel of a 130~150 meter base footprint diameter (possibly
as little as 100 meters of base diameter should actually do the trick)
that's all being solar-thermal driven or pumped by a vast surrounding
artificial greenhouse. If this were instead getting applied on Venus,
except without ever having any need of creating all of that terrific
glassed-in surrounding surface area of an artificial greenhouse, as
otherwise tower similar with only a few appropriate chimney/stack
modifications to this vertical wind-tunnel, as such becomes worthy of
delivering a continuous (day or night) 200GW, especially capable if
it's base were situated over the top of any given S8/CO2 geothermal
vent (of which Venus has lots to spare).
So, I'm still asking of those supposedly all-knowing, as well as of
those others in charge of our private parts and most of our hard
earned loot (aka Federal Reserve), as to how many spare/surplus
gigaWatts or teraWatts of such easily obtained local energy that's
perfectly clean and 100% renewable would they like to have at their
Venus outpost disposal, or otherwise need on behalf of accommodating
those smart ETs, or even on behalf of us dumbfounded humans for having
to survive upon Venus?
ah
Sulfuric acid.
--
ah
BradGuth
> BradGuth wrote:
> > On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> >> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> >> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> >> our Venus surface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> >> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> >> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> >> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> >> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> >> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> >> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> >> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> >> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> >> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> >> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> >> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> >> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
That's 100% true, as those clearly thick acidic clouds could be as S8
loaded down to the point of their containing as much as being worth
75% sulphuric acid, of which leaves their other 25% as CO2 and water
vapor. The cloud average may actually be closer to 66%/33%, with
those upper cloud layers being primarily of water and perhaps worth as
little as 25% S8.
Of course, below 25 km and most certainly upon the crystal dry surface
that's so toasty hot from the inside out is where S8 is actually a
perfectly harmless substance, that is unless your naked butt is parked
over any one of those many geothermally forced vents of extremely hot
CO2 and S8.
. - Brad Guth
Art Deco
Molten Pb.
--
"Classic erroneous presupposition."
-- David Tholen
Art Deco
John "C"
"Art Deco" <er...@caballista.org> wrote in message
> Got yer oven mitts, beer and pizzas ready for the trip, Brad?
>
What do you take with you when you hide behind bush #3 in the City Park,
Pedo Deco?
HJ
BradGuth
> "Art Deco" <e...@caballista.org> wrote in message
Rabbi Art Deco is like a bad fart that you just have to live with,
much the same as Art Deco having brown-nosed Hitler was something that
he and others of his semitic kind had to live with if their mutual
plan of global domination was ever going to work.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
>
> Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
>
> First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
> of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
> impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
> other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
> perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
> accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
> so to speak.
>
> Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
> or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
> interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
> somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
> observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
> impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
> as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
> of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
> possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
> related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
> and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
> substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
> perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
> kicking in.
> - BradGuth-
Odd this topic hasn't gotten its fair share of Usenet flak, other than
the usual faith-based gauntlet of topic/author stalking and bashings.
Perhaps it needs to get another fresh start, so that others might
grasp the meaning without all of the usual brown-nosed clownism taking
hold.
How about our simply discussing the pro/con issues of the local/
renewable energy aspects of our doing business while on Venus?
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
proves how livable Venus can be, it seems odd that folks in charge of
Usenet and of snookering humanity for all it's worth are so deathly
afraid of the truth.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 25, 9:43 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> > upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> > optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> > ourVenussurface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> > Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> > intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> > the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> > frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> > so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> > community of structures with 'GUTHVenus', of which by all means you
> > should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> > enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> > unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> > you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> > naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> > denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> > not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
> > "Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...
>
> > First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
> > of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
> > impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
> > other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
> > perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
> > accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
> > so to speak.
>
> > Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
> > or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
> > interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
> > somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
> > observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
> > details of theVenusterrain are in fact quite visible and of
BradGuth
> On Mar 6, 10:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> > upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> > optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> > ourVenussurface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> > Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> > intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> > the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> > frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> > so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> > community of structures with 'GUTHVenus', of which by all means you
> > should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> > enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> > unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> > you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> > naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> > denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> > not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
Seems only the Semitic brown-nosed kind are opposed to what the planet
Venus has to behold.
I wonder what such Jews as devout pretend-atheist of Usenet Groups
have against the other intelligent life that's existing/coexisting on
Venus. Perhaps those smart Venusians are Muslims that have a serious
desire to kick those Zionist butts entirely out of this solar system.
After all, it seems them pesky Semites have been so downright nasty
and summarily banished if not having been forced out of most every
other nation on Earth, so why not Venus?
. - Brad Guth
Williamknowsbest
> You're an asshole."BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1027a93c-2952-4ae2...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I tend to agree with your assessment about that individual. However,
even though some ill informed folks are fascinated with Venus for the
inconceivably wrong reasons, that shouldn't put us off thinking
creatively about Venus. After all, its still an interesting planet.
While the surface is waay too hot at present and the atmosphere is
poisonous to life at present, it should be remembered that at an
altitude of 50 km or so, the atmospheric pressure is the same as that
on Earth, and the air temperature is a balmy 70 F - and the CO2
atmosphere is 3 times as dense as that of Earth's nitrogen oxygen
atmosphere.
This inspired the famous astronomer Carl Sagan to speculate that
humans might develop engineered free floating plants that process the
CO2 in the Venusian atmosphere into carbon compounds
In 1967 Buckminster Fuller suggested that geodesic domes 1 mile in
diameter could float in Earth's atmosphere being homes to 50,000
people. It is quite possible with 2.5 kg per cubic meter lifting
capacity, that such floating cities might make an appearance in Venus'
upper atmosphere. Such stations might tend aerial gardens that are
engineered to transform the Venusian landscape into something more
earthlike.
I have proposed elsewhere that ICF based nuclear propulsion system
could be used to harvest rich asteroids and bring them into orbit
around Earth. There, teleoperated factories on orbit could process
asteroids into useful products that would then rain down to users on
Earth.
A similar setup can be imagined for Venus. A ring of asteroidal
factories and space colonies could send down engineered plants and
free flying cities. We could call them 'cloud minders'
The atmospheres of Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune have similarly friendly
environments where cloud cities might be built - if a reason could be
found to build them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_city_%28science_fiction%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Venus
Williamknowsbest
atmosphere of Venus, at an altitude of 55 km above the surface, is
mostly CO2 at Earth normal pressure and temperature, and its density
is around 3.75 kg per cubic meter. So, a plant that was genetically
engineered to form bubbles of oxygen inside them, would have a
bouyancy of about 2.49 kg per cubic meter. That is, if a plant formed
a ball say 1 meter in diameter and absorbed CO2 and sunlight on its
outer surface, and exhaled oxygen and water to its interior, it could
mass 1.3 kg spread across 3.1 sq meters of tissue area. That's 413
grams of tissue per cubic meter. With a density of 0.6 grams per ml,
that/s 690 ml per square meter. 0.69 mm tissue thickness.
To close the cycle, approximately 1/5th the mass should be animal
tissue. So, the plant tissue would be reduced to 0.85 mm and tiny
creatures ranging from mites to mice could be bred to inhabit the
interior and nibble only so far into the tissue layer, perhaps running
like rates in a exercise wheel, to bring fresh material to the bottom
of the sphere to eat it, and circulating the water and waste products
through the 'lawn' of the interior.
The plant - has a capacity to process sulfuric acid into sulfates
which are dropped from the balloon. Reproduction would an interesting
process - with perhaps tiny balloons fissioning off like dandelion
seeds. This favors mites rather than mice - which can ride on the
tiny balloons when the spawn. Mice sized infections of the interior
of offspring would require larger sized fissioning balloons.
The whole life process takes sulfur out of the air and turns it into a
solid - the same way certain life forms take calcium out of the ocean
and make solids out of it. The life forms also take carbon dioxide
out of the atmosphere and turn it into solids - plant material, and
animal tissue, and waste products which is mixed with sulfur and
dropped out of the system as more is added. Free oxygen also leaks
out of the system - so over time the atmosphere changes to Oxygen and
Water vapor -
While this is going on Fuller style cloud nine floating cities would
be possible. A 1 km diameter sphere carrying an oxygen argon
atmosphere would be 1 billion times as massive as a 1 m diameter
sphere so 1.3 million tons of material spread over 3.14 sq km of area
would allow 413 kg per sq meter. A sheet of glass 16.3 cm thick would
be possible with this system. A sheet of PET film (impervious to
sulfuric acid) could be 25 cm thick (10 inches!)
Clearly a multi-layer system of aluminum reinforced triangles imbedded
in PET film with a glassy interior layer would easily be made to
withstand the rigors of Venus, especially if deployed near the poles.
Since oxygen is lighter than carbon dioxide, a set of doosr at the
bottom of the sphere, form an airlock to admit aircraft and space
craft - just as a door in an underwater habitat remain open once the
pressures are equalized.
VTOL style propulsive skin aircraft/spacecraft similar to those used
on Earth, powered by lasers from space - which also power the spheres
- from an orbiting industrial ring - would easily navigate to these
cities and back. The cities themselves are made from asteroidal
feedstock on orbit and deorbited collapsed and then opened after
they've slowed to subsonic speeds. At 50 tons per person, each
sphere carries up to 65,000 people and nominally carries 50,000 people
The city, like the plant systems, drop sulfur and carbon solids from
them, while releasing oxygen and water vapor into the atmosphere.
Molecular sieves and pumps maintain oxygen atmosphere. A simple
system of electrolysis driven by laser is used to take sulfuric acide
and reduce it to hydrogen and oxygen and sulfur dioxide. Another
laser driven system involves iron catalysts and carbon to break oxygen
from CO2 using laser power from space.
H2SO4 ---> SO2 + H2O + 1/2O2
CO2 ---> C + O2
Carbon and sulfur can be combined into a wide range of compounds that
when dropped to the lower atmosphere would cycle up more CO2 and more
H2SO4 to convert into water and oxygen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organosulfur_compounds
Some of this could be engineered into the mice and plants mentioned
earlier.
Given the mass of the Venusian atmosphere, the mass of materials
needed to be processed, the efficiency of the processes used, and the
energy available to process them - we can estimate the time frame for
full conversion of the Venusian atmosphere to water and oxygen.
Given the amount of argon in the atmosphere, I wonder what happened to
the nitrogen? It likely reacted with the rocks below and released
the sulfur that we see. If the temperature drops - and chemistry
changes - enforcing a planetary cooling on Venus by lowering CO2
levels - we may find that when the surface conditions start to change,
nitrogen levels rise, and sulfur gets sucked up leaving carbon and
water on the surface. At that point the plants and animals and cities
have descended to the surface and operate freely there.
BradGuth
> On Mar 8, 3:38 am, "Stan Engel" <Stan_en...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You're an asshole."BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1027a93c-2952-4ae2...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
“Apparently our Stan Engel is without words, as well as without
physics or science.”
>
> I tend to agree with your assessment about that individual. However,
> even though some ill informed folks are fascinated with Venus for the
> inconceivably wrong reasons, that shouldn't put us off thinking
> creatively about Venus. After all, its still an interesting planet.
True enough, as it's mountainous terrain is looking almost as though
it once had its very own massive moon, and of its crystal dry and thus
safe lower atmosphere is perhaps much like Earth prior to getting iced
down by way of an icy proto-moon and from other icy contributions.
>
> While the surface is waay too hot at present and the atmosphere is
> poisonous to life at present, it should be remembered that at an
> altitude of 50 km or so, the atmospheric pressure is the same as that
> on Earth, and the air temperature is a balmy 70 F - and the CO2
> atmosphere is 3 times as dense as that of Earth's nitrogen oxygen
> atmosphere.
Life even as we know it can adapt to pressure, even to considerably
less O2 and lots of CO2, not to mention dry S8 isn't even all that
insurmountable unless you haven't the time to adjust/evolve or the
technology in order to artificially create whatever local habitat
environment you'd like.
>
> This inspired the famous astronomer Carl Sagan to speculate that
> humans might develop engineered free floating plants that process the
> CO2 in the Venusian atmosphere into carbon compounds
>
> In 1967 Buckminster Fuller suggested that geodesic domes 1 mile in
> diameter could float in Earth's atmosphere being homes to 50,000
> people. It is quite possible with 2.5 kg per cubic meter lifting
> capacity, that such floating cities might make an appearance in Venus'
> upper atmosphere. Such stations might tend aerial gardens that are
> engineered to transform the Venusian landscape into something more
> earthlike.
Venusian floating cities is pretty much exactly what my rigid
composite airship represents, whereas robotic airships or as those
configured as fully human sustaining airships is technically doable
within existing technology. Too bad folks that so often claim being
so all-knowing actually do not let on about knowing squat about
accomplishing any R&D on behalf of accomplishing such rigid composite
airships.
>
> I have proposed elsewhere that ICF based nuclear propulsion system
> could be used to harvest rich asteroids and bring them into orbit
> around Earth. There, teleoperated factories on orbit could process
> asteroids into useful products that would then rain down to users on
> Earth.
>
> A similar setup can be imagined for Venus. A ring of asteroidal
> factories and space colonies could send down engineered plants and
> free flying cities. We could call them 'cloud minders'
POOF City at Venus L2 is cool and downright nifty, whereas any amount
of volume and mass isn't the least bit of a problem to interactively
sustain that kind of halo orbit, offering our best depot/gateway for
all sorts of future to/from Venus expeditions.
>
> The atmospheres of Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune have similarly friendly
> environments where cloud cities might be built - if a reason could be
> found to build them.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_city_%28science_fiction%29http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Venus
How about the good old and well enough peer replicated reason being,
there's clearly signs of other intelligent life existing/coexisting on
BradGuth
Not that your plan of action as based upon working from the cozy and
buoyant 50 km altitude on down isn't technically doable, because it
most certainly is.
However, since equalized pressure is not a negative/insurmountable
biological issue, and If technologically situated upon that
geothermally forced surface as is (though obviously not in the buff),
and were given unlimited local energy (fully renewable none the less),
what couldn't be resolved on behalf of human habitats?
. - Brad Guth
Williamknowsbest
habitation. These same individuals say the moon is not. We don't
have to guess about the surface condition of either.
Here's a picture from the surface of Venus
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0311/venus_venera13_big.gif
that was sent by the Soviet Venera 13 space probe sitting on the
surface of Venus after parachuting there on 1 March 1982. The
vehicle, even though safeguarded from conditions in its own safe-like
enclosure survived only half an hour in the blazing 482 C (900 F)
temperature - about twice as hot as your oven at home. The air
pressure was 92 bar - 92 times sea level pressure on Earth. Chemical
analysis of the droplets in the clouds surrounding the lander indicate
they wree pure sulfuric acid.
Now if any of you have ever left a chicken or a steak under a broiler
at 500 F for too long, or if any of you have ever cooked a whole
turkey in minutes in a pressure cooker (which operates at 2 bar) - or
if any of you have ever dropped anything organic in sulfuric acid -
you may have some inkling of just how BAD a day you would have if you
found yourself on the surface of Venus!
Twice as hot as the broiler gets, 40x more pressure than a pressure
cooker, and clouds of liquid sulfuric acid.. hmm..
Any organic material, would burst into a weird sort of flame, and
dissolve away in seconds leaving the bones behind which might last
nearly 20 minutes or so before dissolving altogether.
This is NOT conducive to life.
As far as the moon is concerned.
We've been there.. Here's a series of films shot from Apollo 15's
Falcon lander.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1xzPGyt4F4
Here's a few more images from the lunar surface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6c60m3JbKw&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLa6BOFu3A&NR=1
And if you want to see more! for only $20 you can get the DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjtJ3GTT5ms&feature=related
Euugene Cernan said once that naysayers can spin all sorts of crazy
theories they want about Apollo,to take away the thrill, and the glory
of those missions to the American people, but there's one thing
they'll never do, and that's take those footprints I made on Montes
Taurus the Winter of 1972 away from me!.
Now it is true that there is more radiation on the moon than on Earth,
but the amounts are tolerable if stay times are short - less than 90
days. For those who wish to stay longer than a year on the moon, you
need to get underground or do something different. This is an issue
for long-term habitation. Not for short term exploration or tourism
or even industry if you rotate work crews or work tele-robotically
from shielded bunkers
It is an issue that will be resolved in my estimation.
Williamknowsbest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9quPcNWZE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpNgvVOZQ4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmZGSU4Hm8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGMEn0FFQvw&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4&NR=1
Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
us a lasting place in the history of the human race.
Androcles
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
"Williamknowsbest" <Willia...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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He was a great American, that Wernher von Braun. Built V2 rockets
for Hitler, too. What a great German. Something that has earned
him a lasting place in the history of the human race.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_von_Braun
Dunno about "us", though. My mother wanted to kill the bastard.
What was your contribution?
BradGuth
>
> Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
> heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
> us a lasting place in the history of the human race.
Wonder why there's still nothing of objective evidence in full support
of such an accomplishment, that which oddly can not be independently
replicated as of using half the inert GLOW or much less that of any
sort of fly-by-rocket lander.
Why is the new and greatly improved JAXA/Selene science so unusually
taboo/nondisclosure rated, as well as their HDTV color images having
been doctored?
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
> Some have said that the surface of Venus today is safe for human
> habitation. These same individuals say the moon is not. We don't
> have to guess about the surface condition of either.
>
> Here's a picture from the surface of Venus
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0311/venus_venera13_big.gif
>
> that was sent by the Soviet Venera 13 space probe sitting on the
> surface of Venus after parachuting there on 1 March 1982. The
> vehicle, even though safeguarded from conditions in its own safe-like
> enclosure survived only half an hour in the blazing 482 C (900 F)
> temperature - about twice as hot as your oven at home. The air
> pressure was 92 bar - 92 times sea level pressure on Earth. Chemical
> analysis of the droplets in the clouds surrounding the lander indicate
> they wree pure sulfuric acid.
In other kind and constructive words, there's actually hundreds of
teratonnes worth of easily extractable h2o, especially when taken from
within that relatively cold nighttime clouded season (say at 60+ km).
>
> Now if any of you have ever left a chicken or a steak under a broiler
> at 500 F for too long, or if any of you have ever cooked a whole
> turkey in minutes in a pressure cooker (which operates at 2 bar) - or
> if any of you have ever dropped anything organic in sulfuric acid -
> you may have some inkling of just how BAD a day you would have if you
> found yourself on the surface of Venus!
>
> Twice as hot as the broiler gets, 40x more pressure than a pressure
> cooker, and clouds of liquid sulfuric acid.. hmm..
>
> Any organic material, would burst into a weird sort of flame, and
> dissolve away in seconds leaving the bones behind which might last
> nearly 20 minutes or so before dissolving altogether.
Sadly, this above statement of yours is simply another good example as
to what more than proves you know so damn little of actual physics or
science. It's as though you are still a smarter than average 5th
grader, with lots to learn, except you're actually too damn old to
learn anything.
>
> This is NOT conducive to life.
>
> As far as the moon is concerned.
>
> We've been there.. Here's a series of films shot from Apollo 15's
> Falcon lander.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1xzPGyt4F4
>
> Here's a few more images from the lunar surface
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6c60m3JbKw&NR=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLa6BOFu3A&NR=1
>
> And if you want to see more! for only $20 you can get the DVDhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjtJ3GTT5ms&feature=related
>
> Euugene Cernan said once that naysayers can spin all sorts of crazy
> theories they want about Apollo,to take away the thrill, and the glory
> of those missions to the American people, but there's one thing
> they'll never do, and that's take those footprints I made on Montes
> Taurus the Winter of 1972 away from me!.
>
> Now it is true that there is more radiation on the moon than on Earth,
> but the amounts are tolerable if stay times are short - less than 90
> days. For those who wish to stay longer than a year on the moon, you
> need to get underground or do something different. This is an issue
> for long-term habitation. Not for short term exploration or tourism
> or even industry if you rotate work crews or work tele-robotically
> from shielded bunkers
>
> It is an issue that will be resolved in my estimation.
Your bipolar form of using conditional physics and genetic infused
naysayism is showing its ugly Semitic head once again.
Using your subjective and otherwise conditional laws of conditional
physics in order to discredit what can be otherwise technically
accomplished with such a surplus of local energy and resources to
spare, is only boasting as to further proof-positive and otherwise
nailing down about your BD(bipolar disorder), that's forever going to
continually object to anything on behalf of Venus.
The same laws of physics that makes all things of Mook function
without a hitch and at good profit margin to boot, instead could be
utilized on behalf of making nifty stuff happen on behalf of Venus,
regardless of how hot and nasty that raw environment is to naked life
as we know it.
Your "This is NOT conducive to life" should have been more properly
stated as 'not conducive to naked dumbfounded life'.
Pressure once equalized is a biological no-brainer, and of such dry
temperature isn't hardly an issue with unlimited local energy and
insulation as good as R-1024/m is certainly not hardly a bad thing,
any more so than CO2-->co/o2 is the least bit insurmountable. Even
crystal dry S8 is 100% harmless.
Unlike our naked and thus unavoidably anticathode reactive moon,
whereas one bad halo CME or series of cosmic gamma events (of which
there are always many), and within minutes human DNA is sufficiently
done for (aka 'past the point of no return'), whereas on Venus our DNA
is extremely well protected, far better off than here on Earth, as
well as there being no gamma radiating moon adding its lethal energy
trauma plus gravity/tidal force of global warming affect to the
already geothermally forced situation as a toasty surface environment.
Of course, those easily fooled by way of purely subjective evidence,
by mainstream hyped eye-candy of all things inert, especially when any
number of objective forms of evidence has been continually discounted
as though Old Testament taboo/nondisclosure rated, leaves little to
conclude other than brown-nosed birds of a Semitic feather (like
yourself) do in fact flock together.
Your clearly bipolar skewed way of taking each and everything out of
context and then intentionally interpreting on only the utmost
negative aspects, including your persistent exclusion of whatever
intelligent use of technology could muster, is just further proof-
positive of your bipolar intentions of continually doing everything
you possibly can in order to undermine or disqualify each and every
consideration on behalf of polishing anything except Mook stuff.
Yourself, GW Bush and company of brown-nosed minions are clearly one
in the same as Hitler, except combined and while off your bipolar meds
is when you folks are much worse than, as well as having polluted and
exterminated far greater numbers along with your mutually faith-based
perpetrated cold-war(s).
Your intentions are as always every bit as clear as another DARPA S-
Band Chapel Bell transponder.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
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>
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> | More video from the moon
> |
> |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9quPcNWZE&NR=1
> |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpNgvVOZQ4&NR=1
> |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmZGSU4Hm8&NR=1
> |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGMEn0FFQvw&NR=1
> |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4&NR=1
> |
> | Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
> | heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
> | us a lasting place in the history of the human race.
>
> He was a great American, that Wernher von Braun. Built V2 rockets
> for Hitler, too. What a great German. Something that has earned
>
> Dunno about "us", though. My mother wanted to kill the bastard.
> What was your contribution?
But Wernher von Braun was a such a smart fellow as mostly Jewish
educated and otherwise cloaked as a Lutheran (sadly his younger
brother doesn't account for much). You'd think all other Jews would
have continually worshiped "the bastard" in charge of having put the
best of their Jewish expertise in physics and science to the daunting
task of global domination.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
>
>
>
> > Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
> > upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
> > optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
> > ourVenussurface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>
> > Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
> > intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
> > the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
> > frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
> > so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
> > community of structures with 'GUTHVenus', of which by all means you
> > should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
> > enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
> > unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
> > you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
> > naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
> > denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
> > not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.
>
I'll have to restart this one. Oddly the resident Jews of Usenet/
Groups and especially of their Zionist peers as well as their DARPA
Third Reich, are just too upset about my Venus topic.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
It looks as though I'll have to restart this one. Oddly the resident
Zionist/Jews in charge of these public Usenet/newsgroups and
especially of their Zionist peers as well as their almighty DARPA
Third Reich, are just too upset about my Venus topic.
There must be a few good reasons other than faith-based bigotry,
arrogance and greed, just that I can't seem to think of any that would
justify this degree of topic/author stalking and otherwise banishment.
There's certainly no insurmountable technological issues with
intelligent other life having existed/coexisted on the planet Venus,
and most certainly nothing getting in the way of good robotics or that
of a fully robotic airship of the rigid composite kind.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
kind.
There's no question that Venus has been hosting other intelligent
life, and there's even less question that our DARPA knows this far
better than most government agencies.
A fifth grader can run the specified image into most any PhotoShop
program and see for them self.
Faith-based government groups can pretty much say whatever they like,
and obviously do whatever they like. Proof being our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush) and company of brown-nosed minions that are scared to
death of their own shadow.
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
BradGuth
afraid of Venus?
- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
On Jun 8, 10:35 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Too bad that humanity gets to be screwed over once again by their own
> kind.
>
> There's no question thatVenushas been hosting other intelligent
BradGuth
part of that geothermally toasty planet, as such it has loads of
easily accessible water, and likely more of most everything else you
could possibly want.
“We're ignorant of life in the universe. We only have one planet that
serves as an example and in science it's not good to derive
information from a sample size of one.” / David Grinspoon
”Whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell
meaning those in control of whatever gets officially recorded as
history or whatever as having been discovered or created are also
establishing and/or reinforcing their mainstream holy grail as to who
gets future credit and/or blame for whatever, and thus more
importantly of who gets first crack at whatever future credits and
that of receiving our public support, instead of receiving the
gauntlet of continual denial, avoidance and systematic banishment.
The very root of this kind of orchestrated naysay imposed action
against outsiders is clearly faith-based and otherwise cloaked as to
suggest that no one public agency, private group or individuals are
ever in charge of anything that gets overlooked or goes terribly
wrong.
If the mainstream status quo on behalf of their public image damage-
control didn’t have fingers, they’d have to point with something else.
(perhaps their brown nose would have to due)
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
BradGuth
number of nearby high rise and otherwise large volumetric structures
as situated within a perfectly rational community that includes
multiple reservoirs, rigid airship accommodations and even a fairly
nifty bridge connecting to/from their rock quarries and mining sites,
perhaps there’s a little more to such other complex life existing/
coexisting on Venus than merely those of primitive atmospheric
microbes.
If not of a local evolved species (aka exoskeletal tough and packing
heat, so to speak), then possibly of something off-world visiting for
all the right mineral and natural abundance of energy reasons.
The new paper -- On the possibility of microbiota transfer from Venus
to Earth -- is published online in Astrophysics and Space Science,
http://www.springer.com/astronomy/journal/10509
DOI 10.1007/s10509-008-9851-2
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM9FZNFGLE_index_1.html#subhead3
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&single=y&start=1&size=b
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&single=y&size=b&start=4
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&start=1
Try keeping an open mindset, and by all means utilize whatever’s left
of your deductive reasoning as based upon the regular laws of physics
and best available science. Observationology is optional, but not
advisable for the amateur investigative reporting methods that require
LeapFrog pop-up image formatting along with those cute little balloon
messages and otherwise integrated voice announcements per image
context touch.
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
On Jun 25, 8:27 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is our DARPA and their army of loyal minions and clowns so deathly
> afraid of Venus?
>
> - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
>
> On Jun 8, 10:35 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Too bad that humanity gets to be screwed over once again by their own
> > kind.
>
> > There's no question that Venus has been hosting other intelligent
BradGuth
Thus far there’s little if any surface water as ice to behold on Mars,
as well as for the geothermally active surface of Venus isn’t exactly
conducive to hosting open ponds or streams of pure water. In either
case of mineral brines or combinations of highly acidic or possibly
alkaline formulations including h2o (as within lava and various muds)
should not be excluded from what’s possible, especially if the S8
acidic layers of thick clouds contain those multiple teratonnes of
acidic water..
However, the mostly geothermally heated environment of Venus that no
one wants to believe has been DNA survivable, not even by any
intelligent species of folks having applied technology, is obviously
still looking darn good to those atmospheric microbes and those of us
outside of the faith-based mainstream box.
However, unless those atmospheric microbes require a complex tarmac
and a fair number of nearby high rise and otherwise large volumetric
structures as situated within a perfectly rational community that
includes multiple reservoirs, their rigid airship accommodations and
even a fairly nifty bridge connecting to/from their rock quarries and
mining sites, perhaps there’s a little more to such other complex life
existing/coexisting on Venus than merely those of primitive
atmospheric microbes.
If not of a local evolved species (aka exoskeletal tough and packing
heat, so to speak), then possibly of something off-world that’s
visiting for all the right mineral and natural abundance of energy
reasons.
There’s also the solar wind and comet like planetary tail of its upper
atmospheric particles that could easily contain a few spores.
The new paper -- On the possibility of microbiota transfer from Venus
to Earth -- is published online in Astrophysics and Space Science,
http://www.springer.com/astronomy/journal/10509
DOI 10.1007/s10509-008-9851-2
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM9FZNFGLE_index_1.html#subhead3
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&single=y&start=1&size=b
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&single=y&size=b&start=4
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&start=1
Try keeping an open mindset, and by all means utilize whatever’s left
of your deductive reasoning as based upon the regular laws of physics
and best available science. Observationology is of course optional,
but not advisable for the amateur investigative reporting methods that
require LeapFrog pop-up image formatting along with those cute little
balloon info messages and otherwise integrated voice announcements per
image context touch.
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
BradGuth
anything being said about our Selene/moon or especially that of Venus.
I can't but wonder what's so faith-based dark and scary about such
matters, and to such an extent that they'd actually assign a full time
rabbi in order to topic/author stalk and bash us nice folks at every
turn.
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
BradGuth
> On Aug 13, 9:48 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I Have Photos of Venus
>
> Brad I thought you don't trust NASA? Why the faith in their so called
> photos of Venus?
>
> I can never figure you out.
How can a nearly 3D radar obtained image of Venus lie?
Where's the DARPA/NASA motive to having faked anything about those
nifty radar obtained images?
Is the deductive observationology process of interpreting an image too
complex for you silly folks to understand?
Are the laws of physics and of planetology different for Venus?
BradGuth
> On Aug 15, 7:42 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How can a nearly 3D radar obtained image of Venus lie?
>
> showing here agent.
>
> > Where's the DARPA/NASA motive to having faked anything about those
> > nifty radar obtained images?
>
> traversed Selene?
>
> > Is the deductive observationology process of interpreting an image too
> > complex for you silly folks to understand?
>
> blindly "overlooking" some serious issues.
>
>
>
> > Are the laws of physics and of planetology different for Venus?
>
> not raw data. How do you know those are actual photos of Venus when
> you havn't been to Venus to snap your own photos to compare them with?
> The same analogy applies to NASA's moon rocks.
You're really chuck full of it.
Speaking about colors; why has the JAXA Selene mission continually
photoshop modified their images of our moon in order to eliminate the
mineral hue/color saturation?
~ BG
BradGuth
> loathes.
As per usual, you're really chuck full of it. (mainstream status quo
or bust)
Got that motive for our DARPA/NASA making those Magellan radar images
of Venus phony or otherwise intentionally skewed? (didn't think so)
What is it about deductively interpreting a given radar obtained image
of Venus that makes you such an unhappy camper?
BradGuth
> On Aug 16, 1:32 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > You're really chuck full of it.
>
> > > First time I've seen Brad turn into the very troll he always claims he loathes.
>
> > As per usual, you're really chuck full of it. (mainstream status quo or bust)
>
> yourself? Why don't you answer if you are pro evolution or not?
I just did. Why, isn't intelligent design a good part of evolution?
I also fully agree that natural evolution takes place.
Why don't you admit that you don't believe in other intelligent life,
especially if any of it's off-world?
BradGuth
> On Aug 17, 6:23 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 17, 1:10 am, Stevep...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 16, 1:32 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > You're really chuck full of it.
>
> > > > > First time I've seen Brad turn into the very troll he always claims he loathes.
>
> > > > As per usual, you're really chuck full of it. (mainstream status quo or bust)
>
> > > So now you not only don't mind trolls, but you're becoming one
> > > yourself? Why don't you answer if you are pro evolution or not?
>
> > I just did.
>
>
> > Why, isn't intelligent design a good part of evolution?
>
> that's all I want to know. Thanks.
>
>
>
> > I also fully agree that natural evolution takes place.
>
> > Why don't you admit that you don't believe in other intelligent life,
> > especially if any of it's off-world?
>
The purely random happenstance of what 100 billion years worth of
natural evolution can manage to create, is within the scope of my
limited mindset.
I'm not sure if much of that 100 billion years worth of random
happenstance evolved life would become all that intelligent,
especially since passive suns don't seem to last very long.
Do you go bipolar postal on a regular basis?
BradGuth
>
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> of your deductive reasoning as based upon the regular laws of physics
> and best available science. Observationology is of course optional,
> but not advisable for the amateur investigative reporting methods that
> require LeapFrog pop-up image formatting along with those cute little
> balloon info messages and otherwise integrated voice announcements per
> image context touch.
>
> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
Mars is simply a dried up old and dry-ice frozen to death planet,
whereas Venus is a newish kind of planet where its surface is made hot
and active because the planet Venus simply is not nearly as old as
Mars.
Technically speaking, Venus is survivable, at least by those of us
smarter than a hot rock. Wouldn't you like to see and learn more
about Venus?
BradGuth
Notice how our resident rabbis don't care about the planet Venus, our
Selene/moon or much less about Sirius. They only like to spend our
hard earned loot on inert eye-candy.
Notice how much ongoing damage-control it's taking for keeping our
mainstream media from ever publishing the truth.
I didn't realize their God was such a born-again bigot, and otherwise
so deathly afraid of the truth.
BradGuth
the way our past as having been recorded by those faith-based in
charge of squeezing our private parts, and with the way others (such
as Bert’s Florida republican Mafia) get to keep taking from the cookie
jar of life while yourself and most the rest of us get to keep having
to swim for our lives within their cesspools and paying the ultimate
price.
You’re even good to go with the ongoing exclusions of evidence as to
other intelligent life existing/coexisting on Venus, all because
you’ll accept the mainstream conditional laws of physics that
apparently works quite differently off-world, so that any chance of
honestly interpreting darn good radar images of Venus simply can not
for one reason or another be trusted. But then like most others,
you’ve never taken an honest look-see at the radar obtained images
that I’m speaking of, nor do you accept the deductive observationology
interpretation as to what seems exactly as though there’s logical and
rational infrastructure in a very big and intelligent way to behold
about Venus.
Ask yourself, why are folks so deathly afraid of interpreting anything
off-world other than inert eye-candy that doesn’t upset their Old
Testament mindset?
Why are supposedly intelligent humans so deathly afraid of allowing
applied technology to sustain other intelligent forms of life, other
than on Earth?
Why are folks so willing to base their initial mindset assumptions
upon the very same mainstream status quo that’s clearly corrupted and
putting them in the nearest poor house plus an early grave?
Do you believe the public education and of their faith-based
republican Mafia “no child left behind” policy is doing a real bang up
job, so that each new and supposedly improved generation can
deductively think and outperform the previous generation?
Why is it whenever most anything goes terribly wrong, turns out badly
or ends up taking longer and costing us far more than we’d been
previously told, that no public agency or policy is ever at fault,
much less are private cartels and cabals ever involved according to
the mainstream media and subsequently recorded as the one and only
public record which becomes textbook formulated as required reading?
(what exactly have we become duped into; hard core Islamic Taliban
Muslims or Zionists/Nazis?)
On Aug 11, 6:40 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Venus%20Express&...
>
> Try keeping an open mindset, and by all means utilize whatever’s left
> of your deductive reasoning as based upon the regular laws of physics
> and best available science. Observationology is of course optional,
> but not advisable for the amateur investigative reporting methods that
> require LeapFrog pop-up image formatting along with those cute little
> balloon info messages and otherwise integrated voice announcements per
> image context touch.
>
> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
Why is our DARPA and their army of brown-nosed minions so willing to
topic/author stalk and bash for all they can muster?
Jeff▲Relf
BradGuth
Why are devout hard core Jews and the likes of other faith-based
freaks as pretend-Atheists like "Jeff▲Relf ", so unable to cope with
the truth?
His/her renaming of this topic is typical topic/author stalking and
hijacking protocol. If he/she did this to our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush), as such would be considered as worse than
treasonous.
~ BG
Jeff▲Relf
I think titles should reflect that .. it has nothing to do with you.
Few ( very few ) read your posts, few care what you think;
especially when you're not addressing them directly or indirectly.
Suppose millions were reading your posts .. they're too bored to reply ?
It must be fun to be as paranoid are you are,
otherwise you wouldn't be doing it.
I don't care if you think I'm an “ atheist ” or not.
For anyone younger than 80, in the U.S., religion is yesterday's news;
instead, we have radio, cable TV, UseNet, etc.
The only God that matters is the “ God-Father ”,
the only Lord that matters is the “ land-Lord ”;
going up a level, every landlord is a tenant.
BradGuth
What's paranoid? Your pretend-Atheism is noted.
The mainstream status quo is like yourself, deathly afraid of the
truths.
I've often said with just cause that there has been intelligent other
life existing/coexisting on Venus, though out of context folks would
much rather banish the laws of physics and otherwise ignore all the
best available truths and facts that it takes in order to topic/author
stalk and bash upon any such deductive interpretations. It seems the
faith-based mindset of the pretend-Atheist (aka Zionist/Nazi) wants
only inert eye-candy to exist outside of Earth, and they’ll do
whatever it takes for making that into the one and only viable
interpretation.
We're talking serious job and retirement benefits at risk here.
Folks read my stuff because it's entirely different than your faith-
based interpretation that continually excludes and/or avoids all such
matters, as most often pretend-Atheism cloaked.
Technically Venus could even sustain frail human life, as long as it's
not in the buff (meaning naked and summarily dumbfounded past the
point of no return).
Unlike Mars, there's no shortage of water, minerals or local energy
associated with the planet Venus (there’s hundreds of teratonnes of
acidic water within them thick clouds, most all of which emerged from
the geothermally active planet). Therefore exoskeleton silica forms
of life (similar but obviously different than terrestrial diatoms)
should by rights exist, as there'd be little chance of their melting
or being so easily dissolved.
Obviously it takes a degree of applied technology to sustain our frail
human life within that toasty and otherwise acidic cloud environment
(though much cooler by way of altitude and season of nighttime),
whereas the surface is relatively dry and kept hot from the active
nature of what the geothermal planetology of Venus has to offer, at
least there is no shortage of local energy, and apparently Venus has
been cooling off by 20.5 w/m2.
BradGuth
posts .. they're too bored to reply ?" is simply further proof
positive that I'm right.
Jeff▲Relf
eyeball
> Your renaming of this topic to "Suppose millions were reading your
> posts .. they're too bored to reply ?" is simply further proof
> positive that I'm right.
>
>
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Jeff▲Relf
BradGuth
At least you weren't bored enough to rename the topic, like Jeff▲Relf
and most other pretend-Atheists do on a regular basis.
Obviously you know of the Magellan radar images, as nearly 3D
perspective and capable of nailing whatever is physically larger than
75 meters in most any given dimension.
And of course the regular laws of physics would apply quite nicely for
this other intelligent life I've spoken of. Compared to Mars or most
any other planet or moon, Venus is a piece of cake (so to speak).
If you were an ET that was out and about looking for an absolute
treasure trove of a planet to pillage and plunder, Venus would
certainly fulfill that requirement. Of course, since you don't
believe in ETs is why that's not going to fly, and pretty much for the
same reason our Selene/moon is so taboo/nondisclosure rated by your
DARPA/NASA.
The Zionist/Nazis and their army of pretend-Atheists minions of your
mainstream status quo realm are clearly the most upset, or unhappy
campers about what I've uncovered.
Jeff▲Relf
BradGuth
>
"Who isn't a Zionist/Nazi pretend-Atheist, Brad ?"
That's hard to say. At best not many.
~ BG
eyeball
I don't know anyone that pretends to be an Athiest. I know one person
who really is an athiest (and an asshole with a lousy personality
anyway). Most of the rest claim some faith or other. None claim
connections to Zionism nor Nazism that I know of.
Except for some usenet kooks who try to throw off suspicion by
accusing everyone else of being what they are.
Jeff▲Relf
Is it because I continually say that randomness is always a mere notion,
never real .. that nature is intrinsically 4-D,
irregradless of what is or isn't known;
i.e. we're 4-D static, motionless, choiceless ?
Is it because I say we have no Real choices ?
i.e. our only ( pseudo ) choice is:
“ A. Live faster ( like inner city youth, the poor ) or
B. Live longer ( like the Japanese, the rich ) ”.
Is that what makes you think I'm a born-again money-grubbing fascist ?
Or is it because I say:
“ The only lord that matters is the ‘ land-Lord ’;
going up a level, every landlord is a tenant ? ”.
Is this in the GOP/mafia platform somewhere and I just didn't see it ?
Damien Valentine
> What is it that makes you think I'm a " Zionist/Nazi pretend-Atheist " ?
It's the noise he automatically makes when somebody disagrees with
him. (Which is why there are "not many" he doesn't squeal the noise
at.) Killfile him if you have the option, ignore him if you don't.
Jeff▲Relf
but Brad has taken it to new levels. Perhaps that's because he's:
A money-grubbing, born-again Al-Qaeda of the Zionist-Nazi type,
henchman to Nasa's God-Father, serving the GOP-mafia, Hitler style.
BradGuth
That's what a pretend-Atheist is all about, acting as though a devout
Zionist or Nazi and yet claiming they are not of any mainstream
religious faith or association. What a bunch of born-again liars, as
they will not even admit to being devout Republicans.
The likes of Jeff▲Relf that keeps changing the topic or diverting it
off into naysay land of denial is proof positive that I'm right.
These folks do not put their true faith or political affiliations on
the line, whereas they merely act and/or badly react as though Old
Testament.
Our resident Zionist/Nazi rabbi Art Deco and born-again company of
brown-nosed minions is mindset limited by his own butt-cheek flapping
brain. In other words, God almighty Deco, Saul Levy, Jeff▲Relf and
Damien Valentine simply are not worth squat.
Unfortunately, there's no such thing as government without its
religious puppet masters. They each go hand in hand, while pretending
they're not.
eyeball
I had some fun with the little goose stepper some time back, but he
neither listens to what you say nor wavers from his programmed
stories.
Like a good little pretend-athiest Zionist-nazi...
BradGuth
Notice how all the Usenet/newsgroup swarm of Zionist/Nazi birds of a
feather so nicely stick together. It's as though their Borg
collective of incest cloning is functioning at peak performance.
~ BG
BradGuth
> its religious puppet masters. They each must go hand in hand, while
> pretending they're not.
>
> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
Notice how all the Usenet/newsgroup swarm of our Zionist/Nazi birds of
a feather so nicely flock together. It's as though their Borg
collective of incest cloning is functioning at peak performance.
Why are the most devout of the Jewish faith so hell bent upon avoiding
all things Venus?
Why do they agree with all things DARPA/NASA, or for that matter,
follow suit in order to support all things republican?
BradGuth
Notice how our resident Zionist/Nazi "eyeball" (aka pretend-Atheist)
likes to keep changing the title of this topic. It must be another
one of those pesky Jewish things, in addition to their being afraid of
what Venus has to offer.
~ BG
eyeball
Get those eyes checked, I only changed it once (until now).
We missed you at the last pretend zionist/nazi pretend-athiest
meeting. Your disinformation attempts are working. No one suspects
you're the Grand Dragon.
BradGuth
Thanks for yourself and Jeff▲Relf further proving that I'm right.
"Re: Secret Vixels of Penus / by dyslexic Grad Buth"
"Re: Brad's a money-grubbing, born-again Al-Qaeda of the Zionist-Nazi
type."
"Re: Who isn't a Zionist/Nazi pretend-Atheist, Brad ?"
It's people that matter, Brad, not your obsession with “ atheism ”.
And so forth, with nearly countless renamings and off-topic hijackings
is clearly the desperate faith-based acts of the Zionist/Nazi and
brown-nosed minion types, like yourselves.
“We're ignorant of life in the universe. We only have one planet that
serves as an example and in science it's not good to derive
information from a sample size of one.” / David Grinspoon
”Whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell
eyeball
Tourette_syndrome) admits that everything he writes must include the
following, as a result of his tourette's:
brown nosed minions
incest cloned borg
zionist nazi
pretend athiest
Venus
NASA
BradGuth
Thanks to yourself, Jeff▲Relf and rabbi Saul Levy further proving that
I'm right, and not that we should ever forget rabbi Art Deco.
"Re: Secret Vixels of Penus / by dyslexic Grad Buth"
"Re: Brad's a money-grubbing, born-again Al-Qaeda of the Zionist-Nazi
type."
"Re: Who isn't a Zionist/Nazi pretend-Atheist, Brad ?"
It's people that matter, Brad, not your obsession with “ atheism ”.
“Brad's a money-grubbing, born-again Al-Qaeda of the Zionist-Nazi
type.”
And so forth, with nearly countless topic renamings and off-topic
hijackings is clearly the pathetic and entirely desperate faith-based
acts of the Zionist/Nazi and of their brown-nosed minion types, like
yourselves.
“We're ignorant of life in the universe. We only have one planet that
serves as an example and in science it's not good to derive
information from a sample size of one.” / David Grinspoon
”Whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell
The faith-based mindset (especially of the DARPA Zionist/Nazi and of
their pretend-Atheist kind) has no apparent morals or speck of remorse
about doing whatever it takes for keeping the rest of us village
idiots (including those of their own kind) as snookered and
dumbfounded past the point of no return. Without your mainstream
kind, the likes of Hitler and most other global domination warlords
would have been summarily screwed, similar to your having put Christ
on a stick. But thanks to yourselves, countless millions have had to
pay the ultimate price, and the rest of us are having to survive in
spite of your artificially imposed inflation and collateral damage as
having no apparent end in sight.
btw, thanks for this time sticking with the original topic, as
otherwise I tend to get upset.
eyeball
The other brown nosed minions missed you at our last meeting. They
said to go ahead with your plan to change the subject of this post so
no one learns the truth about Venus.
And now for some muzak
http://www.hobbyspace.com/AAdmin/Images/Music/SpaceAge/goodwinMusicInOrbit_md.jpg
"There was a young lady from Venus, who's body was shaped like a
BradGuth
> On Aug 24, 2:52 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The other brown nosed minions missed you at our last meeting. They
> said to go ahead with your plan to change the subject of this post so
> no one learns the truth about Venus.
>
> "There was a young lady from Venus, who's body was shaped like a
One half dozen or another, as to whatever makes you silly folks happy
campers.
May the next unfortunate billion innocent folks that have to suffer or
prematurely die be on your lack of any moral fiber. No wonder Cathars
got exterminated and Hitler got so far on such limited resources.
BradGuth
> eyeball <eyeball2002...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Probably so, and also "Mom! Those mean people want to take me back to the hospital!"
Very good, more proof positive that I’m right, and from “Matt Wiser”
none the less, plus backed up with the extremely brown nose of
“eyeball”. Is incest cloning doing these Old Testament thumping folks
good, or what?
I wonder how I’d aspire to holding such a profound degree in
intellectual bigotry and racism. It must be limited to a special
Zionist kind of rabbi thing.
~ BG
eyeball
I hear it's not your nose that gets brown, Bradley.
BradGuth
Odd what you folks hear and accept as the one and only truth. Seems
anything of supporting the Old Testament or that of their New World
Order suits your fancy, and without any hint of negative consequences
or much less remorse.
Would you consider treating ETs in the same manner, even if they were
older and wiser than yourself? Or should we first ask ourselves; what
would Hitler do?
eyeball
You're the one with an altar to him; you ask him.
BradGuth
? him, her, it or whatever, seems like you're always ready to topic/
author stalk, pillage, plunder and rape at a moments notice. The last
thing "eyeball" and company would do is to deductively think for
yourself.
Are you not quite a 5th grader? or is it a do-over grade situation?
Jeff▲Relf
Then I might think others were that way too,
in need of my reproach ( as Brad does ).
BradGuth
If changing the topic subject to "Suppose I were a mental 8 year-old,
rapist, mimicking Hitler .." is what turns you and others of your
silly (less than 5th grade) kind on, then so be it. Thanks for
further demonstrating and proving that I'm right.
Are you suggesting that Hitler and of his faith-based puppet-masters
were going out of their way to share and share alike, as to uncovering
truths and asking of others to do the same?
It seems our resident MI5/6, CIA and DARPA spooks/moles Keith Willshaw
and hanson have some special Usenet insider privileges and options of
selectively blocking replies to any given topic that he/she elects, as
to freezing out specific contributors that should care to mention
their Usenet tag/name, and I think a few others can manage to pull off
the same dirty trick. But then you wouldn't know anything about such
matters.
Jeff▲Relf
BradGuth
>
"No one is blocking replies to your posts, Brad, you're just boring."
That's interesting, because I can easily prove otherwise, of which
makes you worse off than a born-again liar.
I even tried posting my reply to Ian Parker's "TRUTH IN THE CIA ZOMBIE
WORLD", as an entirely new topic using his same exact crosspostings of
sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math, sci.space.policy and
rec.aviation.military, and yet lo and behold it still got summarily
nailed to death, as in excluded or banished from the very get-go.
Should I try posting it here?
BradGuth
> On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Pat Flannery <flan...@daktel.com> wrote:
>
> > Matt Wiser wrote:
> > > eyeball <eyeball2002...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > No idea, eyeball. I've been around since 2004, and this lunatic was there back then. He's
> > > been off his prescription for a long time. Someone needs to toss him into a padded cell.
>
> > He's been around since at least August of 2001.
>
> > Pat
>
> Poor guy either doesn't have a family or they don't care about him
> either. You'd think someone would drag him to therapy in the space of
> 7 years!
I was actually in the NASA cesspool of uplink.space.com long before
August of 2001, plus before then having spoken directly with NASA.
There are well established reasons as to why the Guth Venus
observationology of deductive science interpretations is getting
ignored, banish and otherwise stalked by the likes of yourself.
There is the strong faith-based considerations and subsequent policy
or mandate that wants all of DARPA/NASA to respect their Earth only
policy, of everything off-world being of inert eye-candy according to
their one and only published interpretation. Perhaps their employee
Finckenor had inadvertently let it slip that he believes otherwise.
On Aug 25, 8:18 am, Pat Flannery <flan...@daktel.com> wrote:
> http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2008/08/a_farewell_mess.html
>
> Are things really that screwed up down there?
>
> Pat
Yes lord all-knowing Pat, and it's not that such public funded
agencies as NASA and their vendors are not capable of making honest
mistakes, but it's their seemingly endless capability to accommodate
special interest groups and to otherwise cover their butts whenever
things turn out poorly, spendy or lethal. Seems impossible to learn
from mistakes if information is suppressed or getting wrongly
published for PR damage-control.
Quote:
At the highest levels, there seems to be a belief that you can
mandate reality, followed by a refusal to accept any information that
runs counter to that mandate. I'm sure you can all think of multiple
examples (having nothing to do with CAD) without trying very hard.
This reminds me of Clark's law: "Sufficiently advanced cluelessness is
indistinguishable from malice" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark
%27s_Law). I've heard others use terms like "arrogance combined with
ignorance".
end quote:
Clearly insider/incest formulated job and retirement benefit security
is their priority No.1
Their need-to-know and otherwise taboo/nondisclosure policy on just
about everything that truly matters is what goes hand and hand, along
with their impressive truth-lag.
It's folks like yourself that are acting as their public brown-nosed
clown in charge of mainstream damage-control, and apparently they have
a nearly unlimited army of such civil service and x-civil service
subcontracted clowns as their loyal minions that'll willingly follow
your lead.
Our DARPA/NASA is much like a collective swarm of Borg killer bees, as
individually unthinking and otherwise unwilling to ever change their
collective mindset, regardless of the consequences or impending doom
of whomever gets in their way, or dares to so much as question their
authority.
Good folks like Jeffrey L Finckenor are seemingly too few and far
between. It’s a shame they have to exit stage left, in order to
survive without losing whatever is left of their mind.
Quote:
Then between us workers and the highest levels of management another
problem exists. As one person put it: "Where does the bad news stop
going up?" Again, I'm sure you all know of situations where people are
trying to raise red flags, but somehow they never get addressed. It
reminds me of the old joke about promoting growth with powerful
effects.
http://www.thejokejukebox.com/jokes/817.php (S-word warning). One
group I know of is considered a success at the highest levels, not
because they've achieved anything, but only because they've voiced
problems. Program level management is so amazed at getting actual
input from workers that it doesn't matter that the news itself is bad.
And I regret that, despite mandatory "No Fear" training, retaliation
is real even if kept strictly legal. I've been here awhile, and am not
naive enough to expect much thanks for helping maintain the critical
path for the last 3 years. However I didn't expect a threat of
personnel actions that typically lead to firing. I didn't expect to be
personally badmouthed by an ED manager in public (when I was not
there) on more then one occasion. However I'm not surprised that the
fact that I talked to the IG was relevant in determining if I would
get the one job that might have kept me at NASA. When I first started
arguing that MSFC had made a bad decision it was with the sure
knowledge that it might cost me my job. For the past 3 years I've
wondered if I'd still be here 6 months later, and now that time has
come - despite the fact that things are arguably worse then we
predicted 3 years ago.
end quote:
Sadly, without investing trillions of our hard earned loot to fix most
everything, it’s only going to get worse, and the next presidential
administration that’s starting off in the hole by some $54 trillion
isn’t likely to fork over that kind of public loot, much less take
advisements from outsiders as to what could resolve many issues.
BradGuth
>
> >> Pat
>
> > Of course, Pat. It's unfortunate to find out, however, how long he's been a pest.
>
> At first he was so far out that it was actually entertaining
> He once posted maps of Mars on his website, claiming they were of the
> surface of Venus.
> He could see things in the Magellan image pixels no one else could, like
> some sort of a Rorschach test.
>
> Pat
Pat, your incest formulated mindset is showing again, just like your
profound nayism that's so faith-based skewed that nothing off-world
interprets as other than inert eye-candy.
~ BG
BradGuth
On Aug 25, 7:27 am, Pat Flannery <flan...@daktel.com> wrote:
> Matt Wiser wrote:
> > eyeball <eyeball2002...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > No idea, eyeball. I've been around since 2004, and this lunatic was there back then. He's
> > been off his prescription for a long time. Someone needs to toss him into a padded cell.
>
> He's been around since at least August of 2001.
>
> Pat
Except prior to then having been with your uplink.space.com, and
before that in direct one on one contact with NASA.
But since you're so good at remembering mistakes, why don't you take
this opportunity as to list all the mistakes and subsequent cover-ups
that your DARPA/NASA and company of brown-nosed minions either
produced or were involved with, and subsequently having applied so
much denial, spendy infomercial hype and PR spin that LEO bogus
history was achieved w/o rocket thrust.
BradGuth
btw, why are the Zionist/Nazi rabbi types so freaking up tight about
Venus?
Why is the mainstream status quo cabal so insisting that we
continually ignore the planet Venus, as well as for banishing any
notions about utilizing our physically dark as coal and otherwise
mineral rich moon, even if either are for the greater good of future
humanity and the very salvation of Earth?
BradGuth
> On Aug 26, 11:02 pm, OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:20:07 -0500, Pat Flannery <flan...@daktel.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >He once posted maps of Mars on his website, claiming they were of the
> > >surface of Venus.
>
> > Totino's cheese pizza.
>
> > OM
> > --
> > ]=====================================[
> > ] OMBlog -http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [
> > ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [
> > ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [
> > ]=====================================[
>
> I found a close up pic of venus. Looks like a nice place to get to!http://ciadvertising.org/sa/summer_05/rsparrow/venus.gif
Re: Brad's a money-grubbing, born-again Al-Qaeda of the Zionist-Nazi
How did a fine upstanding spook/mole like yourself get stuck with me?
Did you get the short straw?
Why are the Zionist/Nazi rabbi types so freaking up tight about Venus?
Why is the mainstream status quo cabal so insisting that we
continually ignore the planet Venus, as well as for banishing any
notions about utilizing our physically dark as coal and otherwise
mineral rich and gamma saturated moon, even if either of these are for
the greater good of future humanity and perhaps the very salvation of
Earth?
btw, thanks once again for proving that I'm right.
BradGuth
Notice how the resident rabbis and perpetual naysayers of Usenet/
newsgroups have their faith-based panties all bunched up over anything
related to Venus hosting intelligent other life. It’s almost as
though Venusians or them visiting ETs of Venus are Muslim.
Why is it that applied technology and basic physics can’t be utilized
on Venus?
Why is it that the best available science is forever mainstream taboo/
nondisclosure rated and otherwise topic/author stalked and bashed to
such an extent?
Why is our Zionist/Nazi DARPA remaining so gosh darn quiet about
Venus, or even that of our robust, mineral rich and extremely nearby
Selene/moon?
At least technically, Venus isn’t all that insurmountable. Even a 5th
grader can figure this one out, yet supposedly wise old farts and all-
knowing wizards of Usenet/newsgroups can’t allow so much as one
constructive or favorable word on behalf of Venus. It must be another
one of their intellectual cartel/cabal policy issues.
Obviously the ongoing truth-lag of most faith-based analogies
insisting everything off-world is purely inert eye-candy and otherwise
forever leaving us in its dust, is status quo par for the course of
keeping the rest of us as snookered and dumbfounded past the point of
no return as they can muster. I’d dare you to prove otherwise.
BradGuth
Topic/author stalking and diverting or modifying this topic and of
it's alt.astronomy, sci.space.history, sci.astro, sci.space.policy,
soc.history.what-if posting doesn't alter the scientific facts or laws
of physics.