Buzz has no time for Ares 1-X
Pat Flannery
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/buzz-aldrin/why-we-need-better-rocket_b_351335.html
Pat
Quadibloc
> The Buzzter lays down the law:
If the Ares 1-X didn't actually include real parts from the
forthcoming Ares rocket, his claim that this is a bogus test is valid.
But he didn't mention the liquid-fuel main stage - unless, of course,
there wasn't one in this smaller Ares rocket.
John Savard
Greg D. Moore (Strider)
Not really sure what you're referring to. There is no liquid fuel main
stage on Ares I. If you're referring to the upper stage, this one was a
mockup.
So he's basically accurate here.
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Quadibloc
<mooregr_delet3t...@greenms.com> wrote:
> So he's basically accurate here.
That's what I was afraid of.
John Savard
Jeff Findley
NASA is making some rumblings that they're going to play this same trick
again. The J-2X engine for the Ares I upper stage won't be ready for the
spring 2014 Ares I-Y test flight, so there is a proposal to eliminate the
upper stage from the next test (make it another dummy stage) and launch just
the five segment SRB.
Essentially they'd be repeating the Ares I-X test, only with a real Ares I
five segment SRB first stage instead of a four segment shuttle SRB. That's
some progress, since it would be a real first stage, but it still wouldn't
be a full up test of Ares I.
the Ares I second stage is an all new design with an a new engine (based on
the J-2, but it's still a new engine). IMHO, until that second stage flies
at least a couple of times, you're not really getting close to a vehicle you
can confidently fly people on.
Jeff
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Pat Flannery
> NASA is making some rumblings that they're going to play this same trick
> again. The J-2X engine for the Ares I upper stage won't be ready for the
> spring 2014 Ares I-Y test flight, so there is a proposal to eliminate the
> upper stage from the next test (make it another dummy stage) and launch just
> the five segment SRB.
From what I've read, the original plan was to use a dummy second stage
on the second test also. The idea to put a live J-2X on it was a
response to the waning interest in the Ares 1 that was evident after the
Augustine Committee released their findings, but the funding isn't there
to do it.
Even in the Ares 1-Y test where the live second stage was to be used,
the flight would have still have been suborbital, wasting yet more time
before the booster is operational.
Pat
BradGuth
> The Buzzter lays down the law:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/buzz-aldrin/why-we-need-better-rocket_b...
>
> Pat
The fake, fake, fake test did its eyecandy and media hype thing, and
that's about it. We learned nothing new except other uses for duct
tape and a fancy paint job.
~ BG.