1) terrestrial solar power - Sunlight is an off-world resource that
steams abundantly to Earth today. Developing a means to capture
sunlight cheaply and make it useful to today's energy market is the
challenge. This is the first step. The reward? Dominance in a $4
trillion per year energy market that is growing in real terms 10% and
more per year and is capable of 100 fold increase as costs moderate
and then decline.
http://www.usoal.com
http://www.mokindustries.com
2) reusable space launch - taking existing chemical rocket engines
and today's electronics and materials - fabricate a multi-stage fully
reusable launch system around a common airframe and a common engine
set. This is most easily done by buying the space launch assets of
major aerospace companies that are seeking to improve high margin
businesses. I have detailed designs for a flyback article built
around a modified ET airframe with an aerospike engine powered by 5
RS68 pumpsets - and a TPS on the nose. Fold away wings (think
Tomahawk cruise missile) deploy subsonically. GPS systems help
loitering tow aircraft recover re-entering boosters. A single ET with
an inline upper stage (used later as a deep space kick stage) place 75
tons into LEO. Three ETs put 225 tons into LEO. Seven ETs - put 550
tons into LEO. To justify this investment there are two markets that
will be served;
a) communications satellite constellation - 660 satellites each
massing 10 tons in 30 orbital planes maintain polar orbit around the
Earth. Each satellite acts as a communications router with 6 open
optical 50 THz data links to nearest neighbors. Each satellite has an
uplink/downlink phase array microwave antenna that uses GPS signals to
paint stationary doppler corrected virtual cells across the face of
the Earth. Simple low cost chipsets maintain communication through a
wide range of digital devices including low cost handsets and
broadband computer links. $100 billion per year is earned by the
network that costs less than $60 billion to install. Additional
services include;
i) basic internet - $100 billion
ii) banking and financial services - microbanking - $1,000
billion
iii) international shipping and trading and tracking services -
$1,000 billion
iv) telepresence/telerobotics - $3,000 billiion - service side
+ hardware sales
b) 2.2 GW solar power satellite - a 225 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator high intensity PV cells, and free
electron lasers - tuned to the bandgap energy of silicon - power large
terrestrial arrays at high efficiency, increasing their output 16x
from pure sunlight alone - permiting each satellite to earn over $10
million per week in energy sales.
c) 4.0 GW solar power satellite - a 500 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator as above - earns $1 billion per
year in revenue for 30 years while costing less than $700 million to
build and deploy.
3) Modify upper stage (from inline booster) to operate as reusable
injection stage and lander.
a) Lunar operations - a kick stage puts a direct ascent lander on
course to the moon while returning to Earth for vertical descent and
landing near the launch point. The reusable lander places 25 tons on
the moon and returns it to Earth - an 8 to 10 day cycle time - flown
twice per month. The vehicle may also deposit 40 tons one way. It
carries up to 40 people on board. Two flights can place 40 people on
the moon for a year. A small fleet opens the age of interplanetary
tourism and settlement.
b) Mars operations - modifying the kick stage to execute a 2 year
orbit out and back is a simple way to return kick stages to Earth -
and send payloads to Mars quickly. The lander and kick stage tether
together and spin up -as in the Gemini tests with the Agena target
vehicle - to produce artificial gravity. The kick stage has a habitat
built into it - launched 'wet' - to allow living quarters in
transit. Upon approach to mars the crew enters the lander - climbing
the tether from one ship to the other - disconnects the kick stage,
and aerobrakes to a landing on the Mars surface. The 2 year orbit is
such that 6 months after landing, the kick stage passes Mars on its
way back to Earth. The lander then uses its propellant to take off,
and meet the returning kick stage, and spend 6 months returning to
Earth. Upon approach to Earth the lander and kick stage separate,
both aerobrake to a soft landing near the launch center - both are
reusable - cycle time 2 years -
c) Asteroidal operations - using the lander propulsion system to
circularize the orbit in the asteroid belt allows exploration of
several asteroids before returning to Earth by firing the lander
propulsion system again.
4) ICF experimentation - hydrogen flouride laser initiated
deuterium-tritium primaries set off boron-protium secondaries of
arbitrary size.
a) This is first used to create 50 GW space power systems that
use Free Electron Lasers to power terrestrial solar installations
without large power satellite. A 75 ton satellite carrying 150 tons
of pulse units is capable of operating 30 years without resupply.
b) This is next used as a propulsive unit testing a wide range
of capabilities
5) ICF high thrust high performance drive
a) conversion of chemical booster fleet of 5 HLRLVs into 35
interplanetary cruisers capable of sending 500 tons to the moon in a
matter of hours, and 500 tons to Mars in a matter of days, and 500
tons to the Asteroid belt in a matter of days.
i) Lunar Republic
*) First bank of luna
ii) Mars Republic
iii) Asteroidal development
*) asteroid survey
**) asteroid return
b) build custom fleet of 'handy-size' interplanetary shipping
- 35 ships each carrying 20,000 tons of payload operate throughout the
inner solar system to support a variety of interplanetary objectives
i) Lunar dvelopment
ii) Mars development
ii) Earth development - build industrial ring to support Earth
6) Factory satellites - bring tens of billions of tons of raw
material from the asteroid belt safely to Earth orbit each year and
lift teleoperate factory elements to them Each year., Powered by
laser energy beamed to them from GEO, operated telerobotically by
people on Earth, and making things more cheaply than they can be made
on Earth, and in unlimited quantities without harming the environment
- products rain down precisely to where they're needed. Anyone may
work from anywhere and receive pay and buy any product. While Earth
is a primary consumer, the Moon and Mars are large secondary conumers
of space made products at low cost.
a) mining
b) smelting
c) industrial goods
d) consumer durable goods
e) consumer non-durable goods
i) food
ii) paper and wood
f) space homes
7) Laser powered VTOL MEMs based propulsive skin aircraft widely
available - promotes dispersion from major cities and provides
personal ballistic transport anywhere within 42 minutes or less.
8) Fuiller style 'Cloud Nine' floating cities - made on orbit and
deorbited to float. Each 1 km diameter sphere is guided heated and
powered by lasers from space - and carries 50,000 people on board.
66,000 cities eventually provide quality food, clothing, homes, jobs
and lifestyle for the 3.3 billion of the world's poorest people -
allowing them to accumulate rather quickly an asset base for their
future. These people will be among the firstr waves of emmigrants
off-world, joining the wealthy early-adopters among the stars.
9) Space homes - as the cost of space homes decline to less than the
cost of terrestrial homes, more and more people emmigrate from Earth.
Financial planning software along with appropriate payscales and
banking services worldwide, allow most of the 3.3 billion to retire
after 15 years of labor - as fully autonomous industrial robots
displace telerobotic labor over the same period. Many elect to buy
homes for the first time, and most, having become used to life aboard
'cloud nine' residences, elect to own their own space colony. VTOL
ballistic transports gain orbital capabilites in this time period.
10) Improved propulsion - propulsion and power systems for space
colonies drop in price to make a mobile interplanetary colony a
reality. This combined with autonomous robots and stable financial
growth - make this the golden age of interplanetary development. Mars
and the Moon gain their own industrial ring - and massive space colony
'parks' are developed throughout the Asteroid belt and beyond.
11) sun orbiting power satellites - long distance beaming of terawatt
and more laser energy throughout interplanetary space - along with
compact powersats operating within 3 million km of Sol, give fusion
generators a run for their money. And provide the basis for first
generation laser light sail spacecraft for interstellar voyages.
Smaller space colonies are highly automated, and reduced in weight -
with improved life support - to carry families across interstellar
distances - this includes stasis and longevity research success -
along with improved virtual reality and social contextual software.
12) high mass high energy atom smashers - black holes smaler than
atoms but massing more than a mountain range are assmpled by colliding
shaped pieces of iron-56 at 1/3 light speed or more. Slight variation
in collision conditions charge and spin the black holes precisely -
precisely engineering their event horizons. A decade of research has
the potential to create a new class of engineered product - one
capable of warping space and time - and building such things as time
telephones (instantaneous communicatoins) - time machines (faster than
light travel) - gravity drives (high gee acceleration) - zero point
energy taps (unlimited energy) - combined with detailed understanding
and mapping of the supermassive black holes at the center of each
galaxy, people can travel anywhere anywhen along any timeline in the
history of the universe - all in a subjective time - measured in
minutes.
With successes in longevity research, many of the people reading this
in 2008 will still be alive when this all comes to pass in 2108.
Human numbers by that time will still be under 10 billion - but the
vast majority of humans will be in stasis heading toward any of 20,000
stars within 60 light years of Earth in their own space colony laser
light sail starships - and awaken to a transformed world in 2228 -
Each star system will have fewer than 500,000 persons in them - and
when greeted by the automated spacetime portals at each destination -
densities will fall even faster as they spread among 10 trillion stars
in 10 trillion alternate universes (assuming zero point energy and a
host of other highly speculative things)
.
Mean while, back in the reality heart land of good old America that’s
about to starve itself to death and/or freeze itself solid this next
winter because we simply can’t afford to keep our homes nor much less
the energy to stay warm, or hardly afford to drive down south to
wherever it’s warmer but AGW storm ridden. As such we could badly use
a few unlimited resources of clean and renewable energy, exactly like
yourself and our other resident energy wizard willie.moo(s) have been
summarily butt-cheek flapping and ranting about from the very get-go.
Of course there’s a good half dozen equal or better than Mook ways of
our having more than affordably accomplished that task of affordable
and surplus clean energy as of a good decade ago, of our safely
extracting energy away from the relentless solar influx that’s
eventually going to be the death of us all, as well as from most all
else of what mother nature has to offer, and especially from within
the very hearth of mother Earth that’s situated only a few km below
our two left dumbfounded feet.
But then you folks of such all-knowing wisdom so often tend to refuse
corrections for past wrongs that tend to establish and/or control
future trends, as well as to orchestrate and/or banish all else that
rocks a given mainstream boat, much less can you focus on behalf of
working together on any one viable consideration, so therefore the
ultimate end result is that for the next century and perhaps well
beyond whatever anyone can foresee, we 6.666 billion folks (lower
99.9% as the supposed uneducated scum of humanity) get squat, and
otherwise we get nothing but more of the same old spendy and
insurmountable grief, so that your ‘trickle up’ theory and policy
keeps your STR rich and powerful friends of DARPA well enough funded
and otherwise protected, regardless of their past wrong doings.
If you are merely half as right as you claim, then why the hell on
Earth haven’t you gotten every R&D dollar necessary from our private
Federal Reserve banking cartel, along with other private matching
funds to boot?
Is there a little something dark and scary about William Mook you are
not telling us?
After all, our private Federal Reserve banking cartel didn’t seem to
mind forking out trillions of our hard earned loot on behalf of
whatever our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) wanted to do. To think
thus far, it seems we’re not even getting cheap Iraq oil in exchange
for our horribly misguided blood and guts, as well as every 9/11 we
get to hold our breaths until we all turn blue. Is this your idea of
a new and improved future?
. – Brad Guth
I’ve top-posted for the benefit of those astonished few that might
actually care to read and comprehend the Mook manifesto Qur’an/Bible,
as to what another pretend-atheist as yourself has to say.
. – BG
At this point, we may have progressed enough as a technical species -
to warrant contact from a superior intelligence - who may give us
pointers on how to avoid the problems of THAT age. Or, perhaps, just
as solving our presen day problems lead us to this state - solving the
inevitable problems this technology brings - will lead us to even more
interesting futures beyond the ability of any of us today to
comprehend. But not beyond the cybernetically enhanced -
interconnected by hyperlink- augmented by time circuits - brains in
our future! lol.
http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~hpm/project.archive/general.articles/1991/TempComp.html
I have just one comment on the enginerring. I have looked at the
references. I would have preferred flat morrors on the ground
reflecting up to a tower raher than a parabolic assemblage on the
ground. A minor detail perhaps, but it is minor details that will
affect costings in a big way.
I have a comment on your first reference, and it is this. Hydrogen is
also required to convert heavy crudes into gasolene. The new refinary
near Homs in Syria will handle Venezuelan crude, this as all oilmen
know is a exceptionally heavy tarry crude.
We need to have a plan for the intoduction of the hydrogen economy. We
need a number of intermediate goals. Eventually all our energy will be
pure hydrogen derived from solar power. Hydrogen will exist alongside
oil for quite a period of time. We need to plan for this period, the
use of hydrogen in refining will come at an early point. We will need
oil for lubrication and petrochemicals for a long time.
>
> 2) reusable space launch - taking existing chemical rocket engines
> and today's electronics and materials - fabricate a multi-stage fully
> reusable launch system around a common airframe and a common engine
> set. This is most easily done by buying the space launch assets of
> major aerospace companies that are seeking to improve high margin
> businesses. I have detailed designs for a flyback article built
> around a modified ET airframe with an aerospike engine powered by 5
> RS68 pumpsets - and a TPS on the nose. Fold away wings (think
> Tomahawk cruise missile) deploy subsonically. GPS systems help
> loitering tow aircraft recover re-entering boosters. A single ET with
> an inline upper stage (used later as a deep space kick stage) place 75
> tons into LEO. Three ETs put 225 tons into LEO. Seven ETs - put 550
> tons into LEO. To justify this investment there are two markets that
> will be served;
>
How international will your program be. A credible program as far as I
can see must be a blobal one.
> a) communications satellite constellation - 660 satellites each
> massing 10 tons in 30 orbital planes maintain polar orbit around the
> Earth. Each satellite acts as a communications router with 6 open
> optical 50 THz data links to nearest neighbors. Each satellite has an
> uplink/downlink phase array microwave antenna that uses GPS signals to
> paint stationary doppler corrected virtual cells across the face of
> the Earth. Simple low cost chipsets maintain communication through a
> wide range of digital devices including low cost handsets and
> broadband computer links. $100 billion per year is earned by the
> network that costs less than $60 billion to install. Additional
> services include;
>
> i) basic internet - $100 billion
> ii) banking and financial services - microbanking - $1,000
> billion
> iii) international shipping and trading and tracking services -
> $1,000 billion
> iv) telepresence/telerobotics - $3,000 billiion - service side
> + hardware sales
>
I think you will have a job doing this from space. Fiber optics is the
dominany technology. This is pushing up to 800GHz per strand
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193344,00.html 100GHz with 10
colors. 80 colors will be 800GHz
Any satellite system is going to be pushed to keep up with such speed.
The problem would seem to be not the speed of trunk networks but in
transmission from node to computer.
> b) 2.2 GW solar power satellite - a 225 ton power satellite
> consisting of thin film concentrator high intensity PV cells, and free
> electron lasers - tuned to the bandgap energy of silicon - power large
> terrestrial arrays at high efficiency, increasing their output 16x
> from pure sunlight alone - permiting each satellite to earn over $10
> million per week in energy sales.
>
> c) 4.0 GW solar power satellite - a 500 ton power satellite
> consisting of thin film concentrator as above - earns $1 billion per
> year in revenue for 30 years while costing less than $700 million to
> build and deploy.
>
2.2 and 4GW seem very small. Feasibility studies. I would be looking
to demonstrate highly sterrable beams. That to me would be the main
point. 4GW is small beer in global energy terms.
In fact 4GW would probably be what you might need to power a Nerva
type engine. At 10km/s 4GW represents 4*10^5N or about 40 tons of
thrust. If you were to concentrate the radiation into 1m square
(perfectly possible using phase locking) you would have the Nerva
engine - 10km/sec using LH as working fluid without any nuclear
reactor.
Feasibly study for this. Power aircraft too using this radiation. I
think 2.2/4 GW is significant and would represent a feasibility study,
but would consitute quite a small fraction of terrestrial capacity.
He3 is the thing to use in space, as I have explained.
Propulsive skin is an interesting concept. There is research I know on
skin to reduce drag. In point of fact though electric propulsion might
mean that you could get away with conventional propellors.
> telephones (instantaneous ...
>
I think you need to keep the far future vision in mind, yes. but tou
also need to think in terms of pushing present day technology in the
near term, and think of what you can do in terms of feasibility
studies.
I also think that in terms of launcher development, you need to think
internationally, towards Arianespace and Energia.
- Ian Parker
Never fear, as lord Mook is more than all-knowing and apparently never
makes a mistake, that is unless it's the fault of some crazy Muslims
or some other than Semitic faith-based group, though I’m a little
surprised your constructive contribution to this topic of his hasn’t
been Mook authenticated by yet another one of his do-everything
manifestos.
Even his vast surface area of complex mirror enhanced PVs consuming
space and thus creating those somewhat inefficient methods of his low
energy density footprints on behalf of green hydrogen production is
technically doable, given enough free land and reverse tax incentives
so that it's essentially public funded to start with.
BTW, I totally agree with the use of 3He(He3) in future space energy
demanding applications, although terrestrial thorium reactors are also
quite failsafe doable, as well as He3/fusion seems worthy.
Notions of lord Mook “pushing present day technology in the near term”
is asking a bit too much of our bipolar energy wizard, as is anything
of China or India CATS somehow taboo or off-limits according to the
all-or-nothing mindset of Mook.
. – Brad Guth
I’d suggested my tower footprint of composite energy density at 40 kw/
m2, with a future of 50 kw/m2 within our grasp. Of course our
resident energy wizard Mook could not only care less, but chose to
summarily topic/author stalk and bash at every possible consideration,
taking as much out-of-context and turning it all around as his all-
knowing naysay mindset could muster.
However, perhaps we should never fear but fear itself, as lord Mook is
more than all-knowing and apparently never makes a mistake, that is
unless it's the sneaky fault of some crazy Muslims or some other than
Semitic faith-based group, though I’m still a little surprised your
constructive contribution to this topic of his hasn’t been Mook
authenticated, by yet another one of his do-everything or else
The first reality is that we don't know how to do fusion - other than
in a nuclear weapon. however, recent declassified literature
indicates we might very likely build a hydrogen-flouride laser that
triggers a deuterium tritium primary that in turn sets off an
aneutronic secondary of any sort - in an ICF process.
So, I assume that's solved. The supply problem for helium3 is not
solved.
he3 has a lot higher specfici energy than boron - but both are awesome
when compared to chemical fuels.
Boron
the world currently produces over 1 million tons per year of the right
isotope of boron to do a protium boron anuetronic reaction - at a cost
of $7 million per ton. It would take an ICF nuclear pulse spacecraft
burning boron protium mix (borane) 1,000 tons of the stuff, costing $7
billion to return 25 billion tons of material from the asteroid belt
each year - at a cost of less than $100 per ton..
Helium 3
the world currently produces zero tons per year of helium three, there
is no market for it since none exists in sufficient quantities for a
market to form - even so a $12 billion per year effort might gather
the bulk of the 5 tons of helium 3 that exists in ALL the worlds
natural gas production - basically you pay to process ALL the world's
1.1 billion tons of natural gas, separating out the helium, and then
separating out the helium 3 isotope from that. - that's $2.4 billion
per ton production cost. It would take an ICF nuclear pulse
spacecraft burning he3 200 tons of he3 per year to return the same 25
bilion tons of material from the asteroid belt each year - the cost is
indeterminant since there is no helium 3 available on earth to do
that.
Obviously for anyone who has solved the ICF nuclear pulse rocket
problem they'll use boron for the bulk of the early flights, and
reserve helium 3 - if they trouble themselves to gather it - for high
energy flight - to the outer solar system.
think of boron as the deisel fuel and helium 3 as the racing fuel..
and lithium 6 as premium gasoline.
At the daunting rate of Mook, perhaps our future is never.
Unless your words and charm alone can put and affordable gallon of gas
in the tank, food on the table, keep them home fires burning without
fear of foreclosure, and still manage to not be overrun by all them
other crazy heathens of Earth, chances are we're going to be flat out
of affordable fuel and starving ourselves to death while waiting for
something/anything of Mook energy to materialize.
Have you set a future decade or century when we might see an actual
commercial end product, of such clean and renewable energy from the
protected and tax avoidance offshore realm of Mook?
Or, how about that Mook improved barrel of crude oil, as extracted
form otherwise dead wells, or even that of your better and much
cheaper gasified tonne of coal as efficiently turned into synfuel
that's so much better than any other hydrogen enhanced fossil fuel on
Earth???
How about it, Mook. Decades after the fact, have you got anything at
all?
. - Brad Guth
To get a thing, you must work for a thing. Nothing is ever handed to
you. You've got to work for it.
So, the only thing I would ask anyone who is unhappy with the way the
world is, what are you doing to make it a better place? Look around
you. Do *something* instead of whining. Pick up a broom and sweep
out your house. Look around for something to do and do the right
thing, as often as you can as well as you can.
As far as my accomplishments. I've sponsored eight energy projects
around the world with my technology and they are all in various stages
of construciton. The first will be operational August 2011..
I have put out three proposals this week in the USA. One to the
Defense Energy Supply Center for 200 million gallons per month of DOD
jet fue, we'll know about that in July, and start producing in 2013 on
that onel.
Another to an aircraft manufacturer who will offer forward contracts
for jet fuel with each jet sold for a percentage of the selling price
paid when the jet is purchase. Since it takes 5 years to build a jet
once ordered, and it takes me 5 years to build a facility at a
greenfield site, there's a match. When an airline buys a jet, they
also buy a portion of a facility to supply jet fuel for the jet, so
they end up paying discounted prices. Actually, jet buyers are
smarter than that. They asked to buy enough capacity jet fuel to sell
fuel to others, to end up zeroing out their fuel price for 7 years.
They don't even have to take physical delivery of my fuel to benefit.
I sell it at market rates and give them the difference. At the end of
five years, they renew or buy a new jet.. A sweet deal.for everyone,
manufacturer of jets, operator of jets, the travelling public, me..
lol.
A national printer is a big user of electricity and natural gas. They
generate their own electricity with natural gas, and then use heat to
dry the ink and paper and so forth. Very energy intensive. We're
working on a deal to take the methane produced in my jet fuel plants,
pipe it over to the Henry Hub, and sell it. Since money now is worth
more to me than money later, I have worked a deal with these guys to
buy natural gas at a discounted price for a portion of it. That way
when I produce it, they again sell the excess and zero out their
energy costs. They do pay a small premium today howver. Again a win
win situation. I get my facility built and revenue today from it by
discounting a portion of the revenue to an energy intensive customer,
and that customer gets to zero out their fuel costs.
Of course we can look at how my technology affects stocks and move
forward that way, and bring about change. I have mentioned several
times my plans for Sunoco and Westmoreland coal. A great opportunity
to create value generating a 30 to 1 return in a matter of months by
merging these two companies..
I have also looked at airlines. Southwest Airlines is worth about
$9.5 billion and falling. They've got 500 airplanes that burn 350
million gallons of jet fuel per month. Just the size of one of my
facilities. I build a facility for $8 billion and produce jet fuel
for $0.20 per gallon, and make 370 million gallons of jet fuel per
month. I sell 20 million gallons at market rates, and that pays for
the whole thing. I burn the other 350 million gallons - and add $15
billion per year to the bottom line of the company. At 20x earnings
that's $300 billion increase in value. Well worth the $17.5 billion
acquisition and construciton costs.
Again, the airline doesn't need to take physical delivery to benefit.
They trade fuel and swap fuel with others with a slight over
production at these prices, to zero out their costs.
They already have the trading desk to hedge it. Getting into
production is the next logical step.
Look at Alcoa - 2.3 billion in free cash flow on $30 billion in
sales. A market cap of about $38 billion - they have a negative
leveraged cash flow, since they're so capital intensive.
Alcoa made 12.5 milllion tons of the 38 million tons of aluminum
produced world wide. Alcoa used 21.6 billion kWh to make all that
aluminum and spent $14 billion on electricity to do that. Reducing
that cost to $2 billion adds $12 billion to their bottom line,
increasing their leveraged free cash flow fo $15 billion from -$44
million - increasing their value to something in the $300 billion
range again!!
It has taken me 14 years to get this far. It will be a few more years
before production, and a few more years after that before we have a
sizeable impact on the market. In another 14 years, oil will be back
down to $30 per barrel because of my efforts. After that? Too cheap
to meter! lol.
This calls for more BD medication, before it's too late. Try at first
to merely double the dosage every now and then.
ExxonMobil and the likes of ENRON would much rather risk having to
whack Mook, than allow their bloody oil, coal and natural gas to fall
much below their artificial $100/barrel worth of thermal energy mark.
Where's that first cheap commercial tonne of Mook hydrogen?
. - Brad Guth
Well, here's ONE de-classified document from 1970 - some 22 years
after Ted Taylor at Los Alamos National Lab started thinking about
propulsive uses of small nuclear weapons. At General Atomics Taylor,
Lew Allen and Stanslaw Ulam worke on Project Orion from 1956 through
1966. In 1961 according to MinAtom director Sakharov starte work on a
similar concept for the Russians which is still highly classified.
http://lib-www.lanl.gov/cgi-bin/getfile?00384887.pdf
http://www.sciencemadness.org/lanl1_a/lib-www/la-pubs/00384887.html
Its now been 60 years since the concept first came up. According to
this document we could have a working system along the lines I
described within 3 years. WE MAY ALREADY HAVE A WORKING SYSTEM.
So, this is the first thing to keep in mind.
The second thing to keep in mind is the IMMENSE power of these systems
relative to rockets. A ton of borane has about 20,000,000 times the
energy of a ton of lox/liquid hydrogen.
Because energy is conserved in orbits its easy to calculate the speed
of an object at any point along its orbit knowing its radial distance
from the primary and the size of its sem-major axis
v = SQRT( mu*(2/r - 1/a))
where mu = standard gravitational paramter
r= radius from primary
a= semi-major axis
Body μ (km3s-2)
Sun 132,712,440,018
Mercury 22,032
Venus 324,859
Earth 398,600 .4418 ±0.0008
Moon 4902 .7779
Mars 42,828
Ceres 63 .1 ±0.3
Jupiter 126,686,534
Saturn 37,931,187
Uranus 5,793,939 ± 13
Neptune 6,836,529
Pluto 871 ±5
Eris 1,108 ±13
Earth's orbit is nearly circular with 149.5 milllion km radius
Ceres' orbit is almost circular with 414.8 million km radius
With a 10.6 degree inclincation to the ecliptic, orbits are not co-
planar, but nearly so.
The orbital speed of Earth is 29.8 km/sec
The orbitgal speed of Ceres is 17.9 km/sec
A minimum energy transfer orbit connecting Earth and Ceres has a
perihelion of 149.5 million km and apohelion of 414.8 million km and a
semi-mahor axis of
a = (149.5 + 414.8)/2 = 282.15 million km
So at perihelion the speed of an object in the transfer orbit would be
v = SQRT(mu* (2/149.5 - 1/282.15))
= 36.12 km/sec
So, the difference between the speed the Earth is moving now and the
speed it needs to head on out to the Asteroid belt is
36.2 - 29.8 = 6.4 km/sec
When the object is at Ceres its spee is now
v = SQRT(mu*(2/414.8 - 1/282.15))
= 13.02 km/sec
The difference between this speed and the speed you nee to stay at
this altitude is
17.9 km/sec - 13.02 km/sec = 4.88 km/sec
This is a total of a little less than 11.2 km/sec for the two
boosts.
Using kepler's 3rd law we can compute how long it takes to move from
one orbit to the next in half the orbital period - that's 1.29
years.
Now, at constant gee, travelling tothe asteroid belt is nearly a
straight line. Thats
414.8 - 149.5 = 265.3 million km.
Half this distance is 132.7 million km. To travel this distance at 1
gee acceleration
d = 1/2 a T^2 ---> t = SQRT(2*d/a) = 1.237e+11*2/9.82)
= 164,366 sec
= 45.66 hours
So, you accelerate for this length of time and then flip over and slor
for this length of time - for a total period of 91.32 hours
A little less than four days transit. Top spee is
v = a*T = 9.82 *164,366 = 1,614,072 m/sec
1,614 km/sec
double this speed for a one way journy - 3,228 km/sec
double again to return the same way 6,456 km/sec
Exhaust speed of the boron protium system is around 10,000 km/sec
Choosing a diluent so that exhaust speed of the rocket equals target
delta vee makes the mass ratio of the rocket always
u = 1/e = 63.21%
of the total weight.
This has the advantage of reducing the total amount of energy needed
to carry out any mission.
So, by using gamma ray blasts from micro-nukes to vaporize asteroidal
materials in controlled ways allows us to use 63.21% of the asteroidal
mass as propellant - energized by say borane that is fused in an
aneutronic reaction. - which has 40 million tons of TNT equivalent per
ton. That's 165.6 million gigajoules per ton of borane.
Now each ton of returned asteroid has to eject 1.718 tons of material
at 11.2 km/sec. This is a total energy of
E = 1/2 m V^2 = 107.7 giga joules.
So each ton of borane returns 1.536 million tons of useful material to
a safe stable Earth orbit.
A ton of borane of the right isotope runs about $7 milion on the open
market. If you buy the mine, its less. If you find boron in space
and mine it, its less.
Even so, at $7 million per ton, this is $4.55 per metric ton for fuel
costs.
If we assume that we only get 25% of the total energy into the
propellant and moving in the right direciton. And if we assume that
fuel costs only constitute 20% of the total costs - then, we're at
$91.10 per metric ton.
Buying the mine and reducing costs to $70,000 per ton and increasing
efficiencies to 80% and overhead so that fuel counts for 40% - then
costs drop to $0.14 per ton.
So, the mission profile is this..
We build a fleet of nuclear pulse rockets;
This takes 0 years if we already have them
3 years if we do not
We fly them to the asteroid belt
This takes almost 4 days if we go at one gee
Find a rich appropriate asteroid - one in the right position -the
right size - the right composition
this takes 1 month to 2 months
Prepare it for a journey to the inner solar system - cover it with a
reflective film so it doesn't evaporate,
this takes 1 week to 2 weeks
Impart a delta vee to it by creating a jet of asteroidal material on
its surface using controlle gamma ray blasts.
this takes a few days at 1/100th gee
Wait for the asteroid to arrive at Earth.
1.3 years
Repeat this exercise while you wait for the first one to return...You
send a total of 6 or 7 asteroids per ship. Total weight of each one
is 4,000,000 metric tons. A total haul of 24 million to 28 million
metric tons.
Fly back to Earth to meet your asteroids as they arrive. Slow each
one into an appropriate, stabel safe polar orbit..
4 days to get back, 3 days to slow the first one and guide it
precisely into its safe stable polar orbit.
Meanwhile back at Earth, factory components are under construction.
Fly back to Earth and pick thiem up.
Ship size can pick up 20,000 tons per flight cycle. Each flight cycle
takes about a day - Two to Three telerobotic systems are needed per
asteroid. These are solar powere and driven by remote control. Each
houses up to 25,000 telerobots with all the tooling needed to process
the asteroid - and 500 astronauts on site.
Repeat this for the next 5 or 6 asteroid arriving over the next 1.3
years.
So this is another three years overall.
So we're 3 to 6 years from today.
Each square kilometer takes 53,000 metric tons of material. Each
ship therefore returns enough material to make 528 sq km of growing
surface in 3 years.
At 49,000 people supported per sq km (20 per acre) we need 135,000 sq
km. That's the work of 255 flight cycles. That's the number of
ships wee nee to build to have a chance of growing enough food each
year for everyone.
How long would this take?
In world war two, eighteen American shipyards built 2,751 Liberty
cargo ships, each with 15,000 tons of displacement, between 1941 and
1945, easily the largest number of ships produced to a single design.
Each person consumes about 1 metric tons per year of food, and 1
metric ton of fiber and wood. It takes about 3 metric tons of bio-
inputs in a green house to get 1 ton of useful stuff out - the excess
is ejected to maintain orbits and temperatures. So, 6.6 billion
people would need 19.8 billion tons of materials. We just saw that a
single 20,000 ton ICF nuclear pulse propulsion ship can return 28
million tons in 3 years. So we need 792 vessels with 792 crews to
maintain this flight rate.
So, if we have such vessels now, secretly somewhere, then we should
fly off to the asteroid belt immediately and experiment with moving
asteroids.
We should also conduct a deep sky survey of the rich asteroids and
make an inventory of what we have.
We should also design orbiting farms in detail and their construction
maintenance and operation methdology
We shoudl develop telerobotic operations and their onsite management
by an onboard crew of about 50 robots to 1 flight person.
We should design a 20,000 ton 'liberty ship of space' that will deploy
a crew of 40 - to carry out the mission above.
Then build 'shipyards of space' that build and launch these vessels.
Built other yards that assemble space factory components
Within 3 years we should expect that 255 ships to be on their way,
and within 5 years see the first asteroids to enter Earth orbit, and
the returning ships to pick up the factories and place them on
board.
The crew returns heroes, and new crews already trained board the ship
after refurbishing to do the next 3 year flight cycle. By that time a
total of 792 ships are flying - within 7 years of the start of the
program - everyone on Earth has 3 squares a day on demand anytime
anywhere. Those that can pay, pay about half what they paid before.
Those that cannot pay, eat anyway. One's credit rating and income
determine ability to pay automatically. the operation of the system
is seamless.
The Earth today spends $9 trillion growing processing and
distributiong food each year. only $450 billion goes to farmers. The
rest goes to the standing army that makes the logistics work.
This process describe above will cost less than $9 trillion TOTAL.
The $4.5 trillion charged will be about 9 times as much money as is
neede to run the system.
This eliminates taxes. No taxes. Pay half what you pay now for
food, and get better food in greater variety. And that's it.
The $4 trillion per year flows to each nation based on what each
nation's people paid. - after the set aside for the contractors is
taken out.
We can do the same with energy from space.
If the world took hunger and poverty as seriously as it takes killing
- this would have been done 40 years ago. It takes only the will to
do it - and 4 to 7 years to get it operational.
.
Not an honest half-educated soul on Earth is saying that nuclear
impulse deployed LEO stuff isn't doable.
However, since as of a good decade you've known about our running
ourselves out of affordable fossil or even synfuel fuel alternatives,
whereas essentially all the very best of Mook hasn't actually
contributed squat worth of any green/renewable derived fossil energy,
nor a spare kw worth of commercial electrical energy as having been
assisted into commercial or private use by way of anything Mook.
At this daunting slug pace, we'll all be energy bankrupt, as well as
actually bankrupt and/or long dead and gone before the first of any
commercial tonne of Mook hydrogen comes to our rescue, much less for
whatever profits having financed any nuclear impulse rocket for
commercial applications.
Be honest; have you become bedridden or otherwise limited?
. - Brad Guth
In other words, you are actually a certified offshore billionaire that
is accepted into the inner realm of ExxonMobile, of which these filthy
rich and powerful folks of ExxonMobile are in need of the one and only
expertise via Mook and company, and yet oddly you have all the time in
the world to rant here within this DARPA realm, of this Google/NOVA
Usenet of anti-think-tank chat Groups because you're bored to death
with most everything else.
. - Brad Guth
To put it very bluntly this is quite simply not true. The oil
companies are much more likely to diversify and "buy Mook out". BP is
already into solar power. Look an oil company like any other
capitalist institution goes where the money is. If solar power is a
better prospect than further oil exploration that is where the money
will go.
The real people who are likely to lose out are OPEC. Come on sob, sob
for OPEC. Saudi Arabia will then have to start running its economy on
a rational basis.
- Ian Parker
Such people just don't like change. Others just don't like themselves
very much.
Well, I can't waste my time worrying about that crap. There's plenty
of work to do.
The point is we can bring the riches of the solar system to Earth
TODAY and transform life on Earth for the better for everyone!
Actually I just had some discussions with a few business associates
last night. We were talking about order of battle - in competing
against the majors;
(1) build 42 coal-to-liquid facilities worldwide - sale fuels
wholesale
(a) rocket R&D
(i) acquire space launch assets from major aerospace
(ii) build global telecom network
* internet/communications svcs
** financial/banking services
*** telepresence/telerobotics svcs
(b) powersat R&D
(c) factorysat R&D
(d) ICF propulsion R&D
(2) Sell fuel to DOD at discount
(3) Sell fuel program for new jets - buy a jet, get the fuel free
(4) Merge Sunoco/Westmoreland Coal into integrated oil co
(a) build coal-to-liquid facility
(b) increase stock value from $6 to $300 billion
(c) increase to national chain through acq in West
(d) sell fuel program for new cars - buy car get the fuel for
free
(5) deploy 2.1 GW laser powersat on GEO
(6) deploy 4.4 GW laser powersat on GEO
(7) Increase hydrogen output at coal-to-liquids plants 16x
(a) market hydrogen through national Sunoco
(b) sell fuel program for hydrogen powered cars
(c) treat gasoline/diesel fuel as loss leaders
(8) develop regenerative fuel cell car
(a) add regenerative fuel cell 'battery' trade at Sunoco
(your alternative energy fuel leader)
(b) sell home power appliance - to recharge fuel cells
(9) develop regenerative fuel cell for heavy trucks
(a) convert highway system to powered roadways from sun
(b) recharge heavy trucks while on highway and then drive off
highway
(c) expand powered roadways beyond highways
(d) sell 'pickup' kits for fuel cell cars to recharge on
highway
(e) sell cars powered by roadway
(10) Develop laser/hydrogen powered propulsive skin vehicle
(11) Add direct power beaming to industry, offices, homes and
vehicles
Somewhere after step (7) major oil companies will go the way of coal
companies. In the 19th century King Coal rule the energy world. With
the advent of liquid fuels and new uses for liquid fuels, Oil took
over. Sometime in the next 10 to 20 years Oil will wane,and hydrogen
will take over, while beamed energy from space will make an
appearance. Regenerative hydrogen systems powered by solar lasers in
space will ultimately dominate on Earth for the next century.
Lacking such clear cogent commentary, I would point out to such
complainers that their complaints are worse than useless. If someone
knows of a better way, say the better way. If someone has no idea how
to do things better, then I urge them to shut their trap and let those
who are at least doing something get on with their work.
Fact is, people generally tend to think in linear terms, while
progress is made in exponential terms. A linear growth proceeds as
1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ... and so on. step wise in small incremental steps.
Exponential growth multiples on its successes, and proceeds as
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 ... and so on - with things doubling at every
turn. With exponential growth, you always have modest beginnings
and monumentally huge endings.
So, those who think in linear terms tend to laugh at the early stages
of growth as being ineffectual, and complain that the problems we face
are so large and complex, nothing can resolve them - and generally do
both at the same time, not realizing that there is a whole bag of
magic seeds that will let us grow the beanstalk and ascend into heaven
and slay the giant that is destroying us.
2 coal to liquid plants making 146 million barrels of liquids per year
out of 30,000 million barrels of liquids per year by 2012
42 coal to liquid plants making 3,068 million barrels of liquids per
year out of 33,000 million barrels of liquids per year by 2016
42 coal to liquid plants augmented by powersats making 10,735 million
barrels of hydrocarbon liquids per year and 20,000 million barrel
equivlaents of hydrogen per year - out of 55,000 million barrels and
barrel equivlaents of liquid fuels per year by 2020.
At this point oil is passe' and increasing efficiency of beamed energy
from space is key.
We're further back in the exponential growth curve with respect to
manufacturing and farming and forestry in space - yet by 2016 we will
have people back on the moon and people on Mars both to stay, both
funded by private initiatives. By 2020 we will have ICF propulsion
driven space craft providng daily and weekly services to the moon mars
and asteroid belt, and be returning the first test materials to Earth
orbit.
By 2025 we will be feeding the entire world, transforming the
governments of the world, and doing away with hunger, disease,poverty,
taxes and war.
By 2030 we will have sun orbiting powersats and send the first probes
to the nearest stars.
Some would say this is unbelieveably fast progress. Yet others say it
isn't fast enough.
If someone can show me how to make it go faster, they can become very
rich indeed.
There are 56 gentlemen who have formed an investment club in Abu Dhabi
and have something like $4 trillion in cash. Those folks own a
significant percentage of the European, Asian, and US economies. They
also spend about $200 billion per year (their annual earnings on their
assets) in developing Dubai and Abu Dhabifor the post oil era.
In fact I was invited to address an investment conference a while
back,and they decided to fund a few projects. Saudi Arabia gets about
15 cents of every dollar from US sales. If they own 15% of my
operations worldwide, and it takes off, they're where they are now no
matter what I do.
.
Can you give us one example of where and to whom received that
financial reward of "I pay handsomely for sound and reasonable and
useful advice"?
Your bipolar mindset that's chuck full of ulterior motives in support
of your New World Order is noted. Please keep us advised, especially
as soon as better medication for your BD comes along.
. - Brad Guth
BTW, I like change almost as much as I like truth. However, does
anyone else interpret what I can easily interpret from this Mook New
World Order manifesto?
Are you counting on everyone else being continually in shock and awe,
or simply dumbfounded?
. - Brad Guth
DARPA and those our private Federal Reserve banking cartel are
essentially in charge of OPEC, as well as keeping thumbs on most every
other energy alternative.
OPEC was an American invention to start with, just like the mutually
perpetrated cold-war was orchestrated by MI5/CIA and DARPA.
. - Brad Guth
One of the great challenges to these precepts in the modern age is the
availability of low-cost commodities. At present the commodity in
shortest supply is energy.
Pundits have said that our industrial society depends not only on
energy, but on low-cost energy. They got it only half right. Our
industrial society depends on energy that drops in price from year to
year.
From 1850 through 1960 the world saw the cost of energy drop an
average of 5% per year and our use of industry to improve the lot of
all people expanded dramatically. A sense of optimism pervaded.
From 1960 to the present day the world saw the cost of energy rise an
average fo 8% per year, and our economy faltered in real terms.
The scary part is that the price rise over the past 42 years has been
managed by the US, to keep prices low not just for the US, but for the
rest of the industrial world. Those control paradigms are failing,
and the prices are accelerating. We will see a tripling of price over
the next 5 years with current trends. And the gloves may be coming
out and things get really difficult.
This is the supply challenge to civilized society based on industry.
There's a consumption challenge as well. Less well appreciated, and
therefore, less well managed.
We depend on the world's ecosystem to feed us,clothe us, and even
provide the air we breathe. Since no one charges for air or sunlight,
people don't think much about it in their day to day existence. Yet
the ability of the world's ecosystem to sustain our numbers at an
arbitrarily high level of industrial life, is also limited. In fact
its scarier than that. We could break our ecosystem and reduce carry
capacity of this planet to a fraction of what it is now.
What to do?
What we do is a reflection of what we believe. The first thing to
recognize is that what we give, we receive. What we keep, we deny
ourselves. This is an unusual way to look at the world, since most
people generally believe that they have what they do not give away.
That is only looking at one small aspect of reality and ignoring all
the others.
While if I have a pebble in my pocket and I give it to you - it is
true that that particular pebble is gone - it is not true that I
received nothing in the giving of it. If you've ever been given a
pebble by a small child, you will recall what you felt when that
happened. You kept and cherished that pebble. As a result that
pebble returned to the child considerable value.
This idea is most easily seen when we think about ideas. A song for
example isn't worth much if no one sings it. Does someone who has a
wonderful song in their heart benefit from not singing it and sharing
it? Are they wealthier if the remain silent not giving the song
away? Obviously not. Obviously someone who sings a wonderful song,
is benefitted the more play time the song has, and the more it is
shared and repeated and beloved by everyone.
In this sort of environment everyone can have everything. In fact its
a requirement that all have everything if one person is to have
everything. In the typical way of thinking if someone has everything
then everyone else has nothing. This creates a lot of needless
turmoil and strife as well as anger, fear, jealousy - even
embarassment about having things. It all proceeds from ignoring the
fact that we CREATE OUR OWN WEALTH BY THE IDEAS WE BRING TO LIFE.
Any environment that promotes the creation of wealth produces a
wealthy peaceful prosperous society. Saying that there are limits of
any type is denying the ability of people to create. In fact those
that say we are doomed are usually the same people who want us to be
slave to some ideology or process that destroys the very creative
ability upon which our freedom relies.
Bobby Kennedy said during his abortive 1968 campaign for the
presidency, "Some people see things as they are and ask why. Others
dream things that never were and ask why not." - he knew of the
creative power of people and ideas and our ability to grow without
limit.
I hope to be successful in my efforts. Who doesn't? I also hope that
my efforts bring me great wealth and noteriety. If so, it will only
be because that wealth and noteriety derives from the wealth I created
for people, and from the wealth I allowed them to create for
themselves using my ideas.
This is right and proper. If I become the world's first trillionaire,
it will ony be because I have created the world's first quadrillion
dollar economy and put industrial history back on track after going
off track in World War 2.
For this reason anyone who wants to see money in my pocket before
sharing an idea is admitting to me, if not to themselves, that their
idea isn't one that will create a substantial amount of wealth for me
or them.
In other words, you can't name one soul that you've even collaborated
with, much less having directly compensated or otherwise been taken
seriously by the likes of DOE, BP or ExxonMobile.
Did you also write that "snipper fire" thing for Hillery, or was your
having made up the disinformation as to Muslim WMD good enough?
In terms of DARPA MI5/CIA policy, how many Mooks does it take to tell
a lie?
Why is Mook having to pretend at being other than what you really are?
. - Brad Guth
As long as this New World Order of Mook has to remain as forever based
upon sustaining those past, present day and future lies upon lies in
order to fully protect all of your associate offshore banking and
energy cartel butts (especially those of the Semitic Third Reich
kind), in which case, so what's the difference?
. - BG
To anyone who complains about this response you're not getting my
point. First, I don't need to name names because I have nothing to
prove. The one with the idea is the one who has something to prove.
Second, those who have gotten rich with me generally don't like to
have themselves talked about, especially if there is no point to it.
Fact is, if you have a good idea and it actually generates wealth,
there will be money for you regardless. The only risk you run is that
the idea doesn't work as advertised.
Since some have asked I will say that I now sponsor 8 energy projects
throughout the world, Indonesia, UAE, Australia, European Union,
Tunisia. 2 of them are coal to liquid producing 1/4% of the world's
output of oil each when they are completed in 2011. The balance are
a variety of programs that have other interests than pure energy,
aluminum smelting, urban power generation, CO2 elimination, natural
gas reserve upgrade, all hydrogen fuels. Coal to liquids will do the
'heavy lifting' in terms of creating value. So, lets concentrate on
them.
By 2015 I will have 42 coal-to-liquid systems operational producing
10% of the world's hydrocarbons.
By 2020 success with reusable heavy lift launchers mean that I will
have 4,000 powersats on orbit producing 35% of the world's
hydrocarbons and the equivalent of 80% of today's oil output in the
form of hydrogen gas - from the same 42 coal to liquid facilities
their solar panel arrays augmented with laser power from space.
Beyond this point direct beaming of energy from space from solar and
ICF satellites will begin to dominate the energy market going forward
as the human economy decouples from the limited resources of its
homeworld.
I will be recognized as the world's first trillionaire by then.
By 2027 I will have the industrial ring operational, and by 2035
nearly all Earth's and humanity's food fiber and goods will be
supplied from Earth orbit - both on the Earth's surface and around the
solar system.
By 2040 nearly 5 billion people will live in aerostats and in orbiting
space cities, many retired from a decade long job that left them with
substantial retirement accounts. Increasing levels of automation mean
there is less call for people to sell their labor and more and more
income is made through investments.
Half a billion people will be living on 12,000 islands that are
presently uninhabited in Indonesia today - supplied largely from space
- arranged by me. Another half billion people will be living along
the pacific coast line of Chile near the Andes mountains. These will
be retirement hotspots for the 400 million baby boomers from Europe,
Japan and North America.
Hospitals and medical research that I'm currently supporting in both
these regions are concentrating on limb regrowth, elimination of
tissue scarring, prosthetic eyesight and hearing, biochemistry of
aging, and cryonics research.
I own a qualified and licensed space launch provider Orbatek, and have
executed on my first acquisition targets in the aerospace business. I
will be acquiring land and building offices at the New Mexico
spaceport within the next 24 months, and I will acquire all of
America's space launch assets of interest within the next 60 months.
I will have a 3 element heavy lift launcher fleet flying in this time
frame, to orbit a communications constellation to provide global
internet services, and then expend that to a 7 element heavy lift
launcher to deploy powersat constellation. I am currently doing
research on ICF powered micro-nuke high-speed pulse propulsion that is
adaptable to a fusion generator. I am negotiating the acquisition of
boron deposits in Turkey, and compounding borane elements in a
company in Switzerland. I plan to have an ICF powered spacecraft
flying soon after the powersat network is operational.
I am working on propulsive skin aircraft in my own lab, and free
electron laser design along with chemical laser design in my own lab -
all in the USA. I am working on high speed magnetic launchers and
what it takes to adapt them for use as space fountains and orbital
rings and other interesting uses.
I am working on nonlinear optics as well as optical properties of
plasmas, including plasmas that are near the lawson criterion for self
sustaining fusion.
I expect to be alive on my 100th birthday, and to be heading toward
Proxima Centauri with the idea of
a) organizing research on black hole dusts and
b) transforming the Centauri star system into a series of star
shells
On my 67th birthday I expect to be standing on the surface of Mars
with friends and family.
I haven't made plans for my 1,000th birthday, but I expect to be
around then as well.
You have nothing to prove because you have nothing to tell. (we
understand, fully)
. - Brad Guth
>
> The one with the idea is the one who has something to prove.
> Second, those who have gotten rich with me generally don't like to
> have themselves talked about, especially if there is no point to it.
> Fact is, if you have a good idea and it actually generates wealth,
> there will be money for you regardless. The only risk you run is that
> the idea doesn't work as advertised.
Do tell, as I didn't realize that the regular laws of physics were
ever at risk.
. - BG
In other words, we shouldn't hold our breaths about ever seeing
affordable Mook energy, much less your 1000th birthday, perhaps
because your freeze-dried and radiated to death bones will be
somewhere on Mars.
How about for a price, I'll be your friend.
. - Brad Guth