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From: Scott Lowther <scottlowt...@ix.netcom.SPAMBLOK.com>
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Subject: Yay. In trouble with ITAR...
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:31:13 UTC
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:31:13 GMT

While I was out today, a voicemail came in from a General Dynamics 
Export Control Compliance guy at NASA/KSC. Wanted to ahve a chat with me 
about my web page here:
http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocspace.htm

Didn't leave details, and by the time I heard the message, he had long 
since left for the weekend. So I get to wait until Monday, I suppose.

So I did the obvious thing... lookeda t that page to see what was on 
there that might be ITAR-problematic. I don;t see nuthin' but mostly 
Saturn stuff, witha  bit of Shuttle and Dyna Soar. I figured maybe he 
got the wrong page, and instead meant this page:
http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocair.htm

That, at least, has some Convair nuclear powered aircraft stuff. Figured 
that must be it, the guy being from General Dynamicws and all.

But then I got this message from a contact who worked at KSC:

"However, just before we left KSC, a guy from the NASA Export Control  
Office (which is run by some contractor, maybe Analex?) came by our  
office on an "inspection" and told us we had to take down all the  
Saturn V drawings we had around ... now, these were just old NAA  public 
relation drawings, plus a few commercially-purchased posters  showing 
the Saturn V internals in very rough detail. He said they  were all 
covered by ITAR and therefore had to be locked up! We kept  telling him 
some were purchased at the Visitor Center Gift Shop, but  he did not 
care. He ended up coming around with an armed security cop  until we 
took them down and shredded them."


WTF??? Saturn V is under ITAR control? Has anyone told David Weeks?

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