Crew's Faces on the Moon
John Whisenhunt
with their sun visors raised. A number of folks provided links to images
showing faces on the moon. IIRC, during Apollo 17 one of the U.S. broadcast
networks (possibly NBC) even did a short feature story on a nightly newscast
mentioning that "the man on the moon finally had a face."
Well, I tried to round up a few of the images, if you'd care to have a look.
http://whizzo.home.mindspring.com/face.htm
So far, I have Armstrong, Mitchell, Irwin, Schmitt as the only confirmed
face exposers. Any others?
JW
Doug...
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I remember one quick shot during Apollo 17 when Gene Cernan grabbed the
camera to brush the lens, and when he pulled it over to point straight at
him, his visor was up. After he brushed the lens, you could see his lips
form the words "How's that?" and then he smiled.
Doug
John Whisenhunt
NASA Mission Report CDROM video sometime next year?
Adam Bootle
"John Whisenhunt" <whi...@home.com> wrote in message
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> So far, I have Armstrong, Mitchell, Irwin, Schmitt as the only confirmed
> face exposers. Any others?
>
Try a hi-res image of Aldrin saluting the US flag. If you look you will see
him looking to his left at Neil with the camera, not at the flag.
Greg D. Moore (Strider)
"Doug..." <dvan...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I remember one quick shot during Apollo 17 when Gene Cernan grabbed the
> camera to brush the lens, and when he pulled it over to point straight at
> him, his visor was up. After he brushed the lens, you could see his lips
> form the words "How's that?" and then he smiled.
Is this the one where he at one point apparently tried to "blow" the dust
off the lense?
>
> Doug
>
>
John Whisenhunt
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/images11.html#HiRes and I have updated my
page appropriately http://whizzo.home.mindspring.com/face.htm
Shame on me, I really need to go back and revisit the Journal more often.
Thanks for a superb tip, Adam!
JW
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Doug...
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I thought that was Charlie Duke...
Doug
Doug...
I also think that at times, early in the EVA after they switched lenses, you
can see Aldrin's head (sort of) in the B&W TV transmission. It looks to me
like his visor's up, which would make sense 'cause he's working in the LM
shadow.
Doug
Giger Thomas
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11v_1095340.mpg
Tom
Doug...
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> Heres a video from Aldrin on the moon with visors up:
> http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11v_1095340.mpg
>
> Tom
Yes! That is exactly the portion of the broadcast I was thinking of. While
Buzz's whole face is never clearly visible, there is a moment near the end
of the clip you linked to where you can clearly see Buzz's right eye looking
directly at the camera. This is also the only set of shots in the entire
collection of video from the moon where you can see how the light from the
surface refracts in the clear helmet.
Doug
Stuf4
> http://whizzo.home.mindspring.com/face.htm
"...the "Snoopy Cap"...was so-named after the famous "Peanuts" cartoon
beagle because it resembled the World War I flying helmet Snoopy wore
when pretending to be a flying ace of that conflict."
I had thought that the name came from the fact that Snoopy had a white
head and big black ears on both sides, like the cap.
The flying helmet from the comic strip was typically colored brown,
among other differences.
~ CT
Doug...
OK -- I just got the Apogee Books Mission Report series entry for Apollo 15
(labeled Volume I, I notice with interest). I was just watching one the
.mpg movies of the beginning of EVA-1, and noticed that after Dave Scott
went up the ladder to help talk Irwin through the hatch, he came down with
his visor up. You get a brief glimpse of his face and snoopy helmet; after
he turns around and heads back out of the LM's shadow, he stops for a moment
and, even though his back is to the camera, you can see that he's stopped to
lower his visor.
Doug
Peter Smith
> <...>
> The flying helmet from the comic strip was typically colored brown,
> among other differences.
>
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/surfacesrendered/ComCapLR.jpg
It looks brown to me.
- Peter
Stuf4
> > The flying helmet from the comic strip was typically colored brown,
> > among other differences.
> >
>
> http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/surfacesrendered/ComCapLR.jpg
>
> It looks brown to me.
Today there are comm caps with brown sides. But I believe they came
well after the nickname was established. I was able to find one
source that confirms the etymology as I related it:
"I would also like to mention that the cap worn under the space
helmets were called the "Snoopy Cap," because it resembles Snoopy's
head. White with black sides."
And here are pictures from A8 and A17 to show that the sides were
black:
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/AS8/10074984.jpg
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/AS17/10075996.jpg
The best I can tell, Skylab and ASTP had black sided caps as well:
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/SL3/10076196.jpg
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/ASTP/10076536.jpg
So I would guess that the brown caps came along some time in the 80's.
When flying T-38s, astronauts wore skull caps under their helmets to
absorb sweat. These caps didn't have any funky nickname that I'm
aware of. Now if they were colored dramatically like the Apollo comm
caps, maybe they would have had a nickname too.
~ CT
John Whisenhunt
softcap. I'm certainly happy to include the color scheme as a source for the
nickname, based on the referenced "Warm puppy diary" Snoopyologist source.
JW
Peter Smith
> And here are pictures from A8 and A17 to show that the sides were
> black:
I don't think the lighting is good enough to tell the colour.
> The best I can tell, Skylab and ASTP had black sided caps as well:
Hmmm.. both of those look brown to me.
- Peter
David Sander
>
>
> So I would guess that the brown caps came along some time in the 80's.
The communication carrier was developed by ILC Dover after the Apollo 1
fire, and was made from teflon fabric, so as to be fireproof.
The sides are an unbleached teflon, being a deep brown "coffee" colour.
The centre "white" section is an elasticized fabric. The brown is deep
enough to appear black in many multi-generational photographs, and
varied slightly from cap to cap, as the colour was determined by heat
treatment during fabric manufacture, rather than a dye.
The fabric portion of the communication carrier, nicknamed "snoopy cap",
has remained relatively unchanged since 1967, though STS EVAs often use
a type based on a different design that is all white.
David
John Whisenhunt
away and adding video stills as I can.
Tom Giger and Doug..., please let me know if it's OK to credit your sharp
eyesight on Apollo 11.
JW
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Doug...
> Awesome feedback from everyone on this thread, thank you. Still plugging
> away and adding video stills as I can.
>
> Tom Giger and Doug..., please let me know if it's OK to credit your sharp
> eyesight on Apollo 11.
>
> JW
No problem!
Doug Van Dorn
Doug...
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Somewhere (on Kipp Teague's Apollo Archives site, if I'm not mistaken) are
pictures of the Stafford crew testing CM-014 using the newer AL7 suits (the
ones with the bubble helmets). In those pictures, the A7L suits are blue
(the color of the garment underneath the white integral micrometeoroid
layer) and the Snoopy hats are entirely a mid-toned brown or tan. Of
course, this was before the Fire and the Beta cloth that became mandated in
its aftermath...
Doug
Justin Wigg
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There's a snoopy cap for sale at Superior's next auction. You can see the
item at <http://www.superior-e-auctions.com/prod.cgi?mode=3&it=0636>, and I
would say that is definitely brown...
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