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Jan Philips  
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 More options Aug 30 2012, 10:22 pm
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From: Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:22:24 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 30 2012 10:22 pm
Subject: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
I was listening to the DVD of the Apollo 11 Moonwalk, with the flight
controller's loop on.  A controller reports that Lick Observatory got
a laser return from the LRRR retroreflector.  This is in the
transcript
(http://next.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.html , then click on "EASEP
Deployment and Closeout") at 111:32:09, but they didn't report it to
the crew.  (They tell Collins about it at 112:34:29.)  However, there
are comments in the transcript saying that they tried to detect the
LRRR but didn't (until August 1).  I remember that live coverage at
the time said that they didget a return from the retroreflector.

So was this early report correct or in error?


 
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 More options Aug 31 2012, 7:43 pm
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From: Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:43:13 -0400
Local: Fri, Aug 31 2012 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:22:24 -0400, Jan Philips

<j.mccra...@comcast.net> wrote:
>I was listening to the DVD of the Apollo 11 Moonwalk, with the flight
>controller's loop on.  A controller reports that Lick Observatory got
>a laser return from the LRRR retroreflector.

And what about the Apollo 14 and A15 retroreflectors - how soon after
the astronauts deployed them were they detected?

 
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 More options Aug 31 2012, 11:28 pm
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From: Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:28:55 -0400
Local: Fri, Aug 31 2012 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:22:24 -0400, Jan Philips

<j.mccra...@comcast.net> wrote:
>So was this early report correct or in error?

And "How Apollo Flew to the Moon" by Woods and "A Man on the Moon" by
Chaikin don't seem to say.

 
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 More options Sep 1 2012, 2:16 am
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From: nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 06:16:09 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat, Sep 1 2012 2:16 am
Subject: Re: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
In <rj7048pa1cd5bgq9cat4r0i90nlm9ej...@4ax.com> Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net> writes:

>I was listening to the DVD of the Apollo 11 Moonwalk, with the flight
>controller's loop on.  A controller reports that Lick Observatory got
>a laser return from the LRRR retroreflector.  This is in the
>transcript
>(http://next.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.html , then click on "EASEP
>Deployment and Closeout") at 111:32:09, but they didn't report it to
>the crew.  (They tell Collins about it at 112:34:29.)  However, there
>are comments in the transcript saying that they tried to detect the
>LRRR but didn't (until August 1).  I remember that live coverage at
>the time said that they didget a return from the retroreflector.
>So was this early report correct or in error?

        Hm.  *If* this summary article is correct ---

http://www.physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/doc/Bender.pdf

--- then it appears that they did try bouncing the laser off the moon
possibly before Armstrong and Aldrin had lifted off, but the moon's
position in the sky was too low for solid results to be gotten for a
couple weeks.  

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 More options Sep 1 2012, 12:51 pm
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From: Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:51:19 -0400
Local: Sat, Sep 1 2012 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 06:16:09 +0000 (UTC), nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph

Nebus) wrote:
>        Hm.  *If* this summary article is correct ---

>http://www.physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/doc/Bender.pdf

>--- then it appears that they did try bouncing the laser off the moon
>possibly before Armstrong and Aldrin had lifted off, but the moon's
>position in the sky was too low for solid results to be gotten for a
>couple weeks.  

Thank you, then the initial report of succes by Lick Observatory while
they were still on the Moon seems to be incorect.

 
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 More options Sep 1 2012, 1:19 pm
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From: Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 13:20:04 -0400
Local: Sat, Sep 1 2012 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 06:16:09 +0000 (UTC), nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph

Nebus) wrote:
>        Hm.  *If* this summary article is correct ---

>http://www.physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/doc/Bender.pdf

And it says that the Apollo 14 retroreflector was detected the day it
was deployed.

 
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 More options Sep 3 2012, 11:52 pm
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From: nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 03:52:38 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Sep 3 2012 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: Apollo 11 return from LRRR while still on the Moon?
In <f6f448hvi1bfiicl1ih5tr2d881t7pr...@4ax.com> Jan Philips <j.mccra...@comcast.net> writes:

>On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 06:16:09 +0000 (UTC), nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph
>Nebus) wrote:
>>        Hm.  *If* this summary article is correct ---

>>http://www.physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/doc/Bender.pdf

>>--- then it appears that they did try bouncing the laser off the moon
>>possibly before Armstrong and Aldrin had lifted off, but the moon's
>>position in the sky was too low for solid results to be gotten for a
>>couple weeks.  
>Thank you, then the initial report of succes by Lick Observatory while
>they were still on the Moon seems to be incorect.

        Well, thanks for asking the question.  It's rare enough finding
a point that hasn't been chewed over so much as to lose its interest,
or better, one that can be reasonably clearly answered.  

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