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Paul Blay

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Jonathan (of Jonathan's Space Report) lists MO SSSR as the
organisation associated with ~1800 satellites in his master
launch log.

After some searches on the internet I believe that MO stands
for "Ministerstvo oborony" but I have no idea what 'oborony'
means.

So, can anyone help me out with information on this ministry
and its role in the Soviet space activity?

Paul

P.S. Russian on-line dictionaries are not helpful as
I do not know the Cyrillic alphabet, and do not have the
appropriate Input Method Editor.

Andy

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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<< After some searches on the internet I believe that MO stands
for "Ministerstvo oborony" but I have no idea what 'oborony'
means. >>

"Oboron" means "Defense."

The answer to the second part of the question, now that you know the answer to
the first, should be fairly obvious....

Andy

"Gee, I thought we'd be a lot higher at MECO!"
[Steve Hawley, STS 41-D pad abort, 1984]

Allen Thomson

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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In article <20001012121532...@ng-cr1.aol.com>,
as...@aol.comno.spamx (Andy) wrote:

>
> "Oboron" means "Defense."
>

"Oborona" is the nominative singular, "defense"
"Oborony" is the genitive singular, "of defense."

("Oboron" is valid, but it's the genitive plural).


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Andy

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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("Oboron" is valid, but it's the genitive plural). >>


And the root, which is why I didn't use "oboron/a". With the root, you can
define any variation.

Dave Michelson

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Andy wrote:

>
> Allen Thomson wrote:
>
> << ("Oboron" is valid, but it's the genitive plural). >>
>
> And the root, which is why I didn't use "oboron/a". With the root, you can
> define any variation.

Deja vu! I've seen this sort of arguing regarding translation of
Russian words before.

Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?
--

(Very clever, actually. Perhaps OM frequently trashes Deja in an effort
to ensure that people don't suspect that he and Allen might be one and
the same.)

--
Dave Michelson
dmich...@ieee.org

Andy

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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<< Deja vu! I've seen this sort of arguing regarding translation of
Russian words before.

Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson? >>


Ah, Dave, but the Original Din wasn't about translation, per se, it was about
pronunciation.

Allen Thomson

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In article <39E5FD7D...@ieee.org>,
Dave Michelson <dmich...@ieee.org> wrote:

> Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?

Anything is possible, except those things that are impossible.

I neither confirm nor deny.

Actually, I do deny, and abjure the allegation; but would not wish to
confirm the denial, nor to abnegate the alligator.

As there is no controlling legal authority, the question is moot and,
in my case, totally without meaning.

Paul F. Dietz

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Dave Michelson wrote:

> Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?

I don't think so. I have a name attached
to OM (which I choose not to share) and it isn't
Allen Thomson.

Paul

Dave Michelson

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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"Paul F. Dietz" wrote:
>
> > Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?
>
> I don't think so. I have a name attached
> to OM (which I choose not to share) and it isn't
> Allen Thomson.

OK. I was just struck by the way the OM in ThOMson lept off the screen
as he and Andy were arguing about the fine points of Russian/English
translation ;-)

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Dave Michelson
dmich...@ieee.org

OM

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:50:00 +1000, John Williams
<j2.wi...@qut.edu.au> wrote:

>Paul F. Dietz wrote:


>>
>> Dave Michelson wrote:
>>
>> > Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?
>>
>> I don't think so. I have a name attached
>> to OM (which I choose not to share) and it isn't
>> Allen Thomson.

...Nope. Not Allen, not by a long shot. Good try, tho.

>Maybe OM is Henry Spencer's evil twin? ;-)

...Look, we've been over this time and time again. We're all Jim Oberg
clones :-P

OM

OM

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On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:56:18 GMT, Allen Thomson <thom...@flash.net>
wrote:

>As there is no controlling legal authority, the question is moot and,
>in my case, totally without meaning.

...Why am I posting without my knowing about it or asking myself for
approval first?

AT

wolfshadow4

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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"Allen Thomson" <thom...@flash.net> wrote in message
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Anything is possible, except those things that are impossible.
>
> I neither confirm nor deny.
>
> Actually, I do deny, and abjure the allegation; but would not wish to
> confirm the denial, nor to abnegate the alligator.
>
> As there is no controlling legal authority, the question is moot and,
> in my case, totally without meaning.

You're Jesse Jackson, aren't you?

Andy

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Oct 12, 2000, 8:21:29 PM10/12/00
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<< OK. I was just struck by the way the OM in ThOMson lept off the screen
as he and Andy were arguing about the fine points of Russian/English
translation ;-) >>

See, here we go again. It wasn't an argument. He clarified the original
question, and I clarified my post. Hardly qualifies as an argument.

John Williams

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Oct 12, 2000, 8:50:00 PM10/12/00
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Paul F. Dietz wrote:
>
> Dave Michelson wrote:
>
> > Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?
>
> I don't think so. I have a name attached
> to OM (which I choose not to share) and it isn't
> Allen Thomson.

Maybe OM is Henry Spencer's evil twin? ;-)

John

Justin Wigg

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Oct 12, 2000, 9:25:29 PM10/12/00
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"Andy" <as...@aol.comno.spamx> wrote in message
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> See, here we go again. It wasn't an argument. He clarified the original
> question, and I clarified my post. Hardly qualifies as an argument.

Yes it does! (No it doesn't etc etc etc.) Sorry - couldn't help it.
--
He who laughs last... | Justin Wigg - Hobart, AUSTRALIA
...thinks slowest. | Reply: justi...@yahoo.com


Colin Burgess

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Oct 13, 2000, 12:38:16 AM10/13/00
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Wait a darned minute....Ji M O berg....MO...OM...solved!

Message from Clone Burgess.... (:o)


OM <om@RE_MOVE_THIS.ccsi.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:50:00 +1000, John Williams
> <j2.wi...@qut.edu.au> wrote:
>

> >Paul F. Dietz wrote:
> >>
> >> Dave Michelson wrote:
> >>
> >> > Is it possible that OM = Allen ThOMson?
> >>
> >> I don't think so. I have a name attached
> >> to OM (which I choose not to share) and it isn't
> >> Allen Thomson.
>

> ...Nope. Not Allen, not by a long shot. Good try, tho.
>

> >Maybe OM is Henry Spencer's evil twin? ;-)
>

Justin Wigg

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Oct 13, 2000, 1:36:38 AM10/13/00
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"Colin Burgess" <cbur...@chilli.net.au> wrote in message
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> Wait a darned minute....Ji M O berg....MO...OM...solved!

Sorry Colin but I revealed OM's identity ages ago. He is Boris the moon
monkey. He used to cryptically post under the backward spelling of YEKNOM
and then just shortened it to OM.

Of course, he is a monkey on the outside but still a Jim Oberg clone on the
inside...

Allen Thomson

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In article <uQ9f58MNAHA.249@cpmsnbbsa09>,


No, I'm a former Federal bureaucrat: through long practice, I've become
quite adept in producing such lucid prose.

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