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GordonD

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:29:59 PM11/22/09
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Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
 
"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

Pat Flannery

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:03:16 PM11/22/09
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GordonD wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8373161.stm
>

I'm still trying to get the straight story on him and Voskhod 1; in one
version he wants to fly it, as he helped design it.
In the other, he is convinced that Korolev hates him and Korolev forces
him into flying it as he hopes it will fail and kill him.

Pat

David Spain

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:26:16 AM11/23/09
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Pat Flannery <fla...@daktel.com> writes:

> I'm still trying to get the straight story on him and Voskhod 1; in one
> version he wants to fly it, as he helped design it.
> In the other, he is convinced that Korolev hates him and Korolev forces him
> into flying it as he hopes it will fail and kill him.

I rest my case about Pat authoring a book...

:-)

Dave

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:58:51 PM11/25/09
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In Collins' book, he was nicknamed "Feo the Fink" for managing to avoid
the copious amounts of Vodka shots that were being consumed by Collins,
Young and another Russian Cosmonaut at the Paris Air Show one year.

However it really went down, he certainly was a brave soul for having
designed one of the most dangerous missions ever attempted and then
personally flying in it. Must have been miserable. Three guys in what
was basically a stripped Vostok would have been like three guys in a MG
Midget. Of course the lack of space suits would have helped, but
certainly heightened the terror!

Pat Flannery

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Nov 26, 2009, 12:40:55 AM11/26/09
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forget it wrote:
>
> However it really went down, he certainly was a brave soul for having
> designed one of the most dangerous missions ever attempted and then
> personally flying in it. Must have been miserable. Three guys in what
> was basically a stripped Vostok would have been like three guys in a MG
> Midget. Of course the lack of space suits would have helped, but
> certainly heightened the terror!

Probably a pretty hard landing also, even with the solid-fuel landing
rockets on the base of the chute (or chutes; one source says it used two
landing parachutes).
Although ejection was right out in case of a emergency and there was no
escape tower, the book "Korolev" states that escape was only impossible
during around 30 seconds of the ascent, so they must have had some way
of jettisoning the launch shroud and separating the reentry sphere from
the booster on the way up if there was an emergency.

Pat

OM

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Nov 26, 2009, 1:01:32 AM11/26/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:40:55 -0600, Pat Flannery <fla...@daktel.com>
wrote:

>Although ejection was right out in case of a emergency and there was no
>escape tower, the book "Korolev" states that escape was only impossible
>during around 30 seconds of the ascent, so they must have had some way
>of jettisoning the launch shroud and separating the reentry sphere from
>the booster on the way up if there was an emergency.

...ISTR D-Day addressing this during one of his less-egotistical
periods about a decade or so back, where the plan was to jettison the
shroud, separate the 2nd stage from the uprated Semyorka 1st stage,
then separate the full Voskhod stack, and use the SM's engine to add
what additional altitude was necessary for proper chute deployment.
That apparently was the issue behind the 30-40 second "dead man's
zone", in that any sooner there wouldn't be enough time for the chute
to deploy fully and reduce the speed of the command sphere to anything
even resembling safe.


OM
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