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Graham Cooper

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May 12, 2012, 4:14:49 AM5/12/12
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On May 7, 9:38 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You really can't see the Dragon from Neverending Story swooping down
> to save the big falling Dragon?
>

> http://camaffiliate.com/media/3-DRAGONS.jpg

OK GUESS WHAT THIS WAS A PREMONITION OF?

SOMEONE WITH WINGS FALLING???

Check the date!

>>> swooping down to save the big falling Dragon? <<<

Cmon who is a BIG STAR with a Dragon Face and WINGS??

Came tumbling down this week?

Herc
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Government Shill #2

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May 15, 2012, 3:15:35 AM5/15/12
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No idea.

It's your delusion. You tell us.

Shill #2
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BruceS

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May 15, 2012, 5:20:03 PM5/15/12
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On May 15, 1:15 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 May 2012 01:14:49 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 9:38 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> You really can't see the Dragon from Neverending Story swooping down
> >> to save the big falling Dragon?
>
> >>http://camaffiliate.com/media/3-DRAGONS.jpg
>
> >OK GUESS WHAT THIS WAS A PREMONITION OF?
>
> >SOMEONE WITH WINGS FALLING???
>
> >Check the date!
>
> >>>> swooping down to save the big falling Dragon? <<<
>
> >Cmon who is a BIG STAR with a Dragon Face and WINGS??
>
> >Came tumbling down this week?
>
> No idea.
>
> It's your delusion. You tell us.

I'm afraid it's just one of his many delusions. He'd stabilized a bit
recently, but now seems to be back in full crazy mode. He's talking
about his cloud picture delusions, his belief that he has a direct
line to an omniscient god, his claim to be rich, and his connection to
movies, not to mention that poor woman he's been stalking. Graham,
whatever you were doing that was helping to ground you for a while,
you really should go back to doing it.

Graham Cooper

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May 17, 2012, 4:56:12 PM5/17/12
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That's really spiteful when all I'm saying is last week I posted

>> swooping down to save the big falling winged Dragon? <<

only days before John Travolta fell from grace, the star of Angel.

To be expected from skeptic groups, none of you even noticed the ill
fated ferry captain "Inthashoet" when world headlines focused on the
boating disaster on Fri 13 earlier this year!

You find this picture nonsense?
http://camaffiliate.com/media/3-DRAGONS.jpg

That's your problem, James Randi and CO are very interested.



Herc

Clocky

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May 18, 2012, 6:08:39 AM5/18/12
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Someone close to me died very recently, can you tell me anything about the
person I'm talking about?



Graham Cooper

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May 18, 2012, 7:47:05 AM5/18/12
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Yes but it's more concise if you Tele-Ask me.

Think about the person while you think of any page and line number.

Then post the page and line number to me. Max P370 L30

Herc

Clocky

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May 18, 2012, 8:41:02 AM5/18/12
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Page 11, line 14


BruceS

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May 18, 2012, 9:16:12 AM5/18/12
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Yikes! I get:

"was about four Foot high, and almost two Foot wide, through"

Was this a somewhat short, stout person?

Graham Cooper

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May 18, 2012, 3:50:28 PM5/18/12
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I was going to add.... should Bruce post derogatory crap here then MY
channel will answer him instead, as has been explained 50 times.

Herc

Clocky

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May 18, 2012, 6:30:04 PM5/18/12
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Can I have your channel please? Since I asked you and nobody else that seems
reasonable doesn't it?


Clocky

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May 18, 2012, 6:31:24 PM5/18/12
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I'll answer that after Graham has given his answer, in fairness to him.


ala

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May 18, 2012, 8:50:10 PM5/18/12
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"Clocky" <not...@happen.com> wrote in message
news:4fb61fa0$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496...@news.astraweb.com...
>

>
> Someone close to me died very recently, can you tell me anything about the
> person I'm talking about?
>
"Without knowing what I am and why I am here, it is impossible to live."
Leo Tolstoy
>

Graham Cooper

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May 18, 2012, 9:46:52 PM5/18/12
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Huh? The channel is to a SILENT QUESTION/IDEA

The Question is asked IN THE THREAD (via quote coordinates)

OK.....

Is this getting through to anyone yet?

TWENTY DIFFERENT TESTS = TWENTY IDIOTS TALKING OVER THE QUESTION

Herc

Graham Cooper

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May 18, 2012, 9:50:53 PM5/18/12
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> The channel is to a SILENT QUESTION/IDEA
>
> The Question is asked IN THE THREAD (via quote coordinates)
>


the slightest whisper from the audience can ruin the trick!

welcome to 1858

Herc

Fred Nurk

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May 18, 2012, 10:12:28 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
<graham...@gmail.com> wrote:


>I was going to add.... should Bruce post derogatory crap here then MY
>channel will answer him instead, as has been explained 50 times.
>
>Herc

I counted only 49.....

Fred Nurk

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May 18, 2012, 10:14:28 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
<graham...@gmail.com> wrote:


>TWENTY DIFFERENT TESTS = TWENTY IDIOTS TALKING OVER THE QUESTION
>
>Herc

Seems fair - after all, an idiot is being tested.....

Fred Nurk

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May 18, 2012, 10:15:07 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
<graham...@gmail.com> wrote:

>the slightest whisper from the audience can ruin the trick!
>
>welcome to 1858
>
>Herc

Then you admit it is a "trick"?

Graham Cooper

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May 18, 2012, 10:22:40 PM5/18/12
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On May 19, 12:15 pm, Fred Nurk <frednurk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
>
> <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >the slightest whisper from the audience can ruin the trick!
>
> >welcome to 1858
>
> >Herc
>
> Then you admit it is a "trick"?

Do you admit you're a nurk?

Herc

Clocky

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May 19, 2012, 5:56:21 AM5/19/12
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So what is your answer again? Just pick up the book and give me what is
written on the page and line number OK.


BruceS

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May 19, 2012, 12:02:45 PM5/19/12
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My channel wasn't derogatory at all, unless you think I'm insulting
Coach's late friend, and I certainly don't mean to do that. My own
dear mother is short and stout. Besides, I wasn't thinking of a
person when I posted, so you wouldn't be getting any magical psychic
crosstalk from that.

BruceS

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May 19, 2012, 12:04:01 PM5/19/12
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Fair enough, though I ask that you also answer after it becomes clear
that Graham isn't going to do his magic.

Graham Cooper

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May 19, 2012, 12:08:17 PM5/19/12
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Considering you went to great lengths to cut cross talk during your
silent channels you must have known you were stuffing up the channel.

Anyway, waiting a day later to read the passage seemed to work.

Herc

BruceS

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May 19, 2012, 12:22:45 PM5/19/12
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I did what I could to meet your stated requirements, without any
expectation of it making any difference to your success. Now I've
posted my channel, and a possible interpretation of it, but you
haven't done the same. Are readers to then conclude that I have more
magical power than you? So far, you seem to be producing nothing but
excuses.

Graham Cooper

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May 19, 2012, 4:32:30 PM5/19/12
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OK p11 L14
14 forays from the space station to Karie, a country next to


Line 13 actually ended for-
14 ays

So AAAA

but I think that's referring to my 4 breakthroughs in computer science
yesterday, including COOPERS NUMBER!

Been following rec.org.mensa?

Herc
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Clocky

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May 19, 2012, 7:54:46 PM5/19/12
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To answer your question, yes the person I am talking about was short and
right up to the end worked out a lot so had an upper body of a bodybuilder.

That seems spot on.

Want to add anything else?







BruceS

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May 21, 2012, 10:07:39 AM5/21/12
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Clocky asked you about a recently deceased person, not your ramblings
in another forum. Are you saying that you can't actually "channel"
for a specific question or issue, and that any "channel" you come up
with can apply to absolutely anything you've seen, read, etc.
recently? It seems so, and that would constitute an actual
degradation in the value of your channels, which I hadn't considered
possible.

BruceS

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May 21, 2012, 10:20:52 AM5/21/12
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Sure. I'll say once more that I don't pretend to have any magical
abilities or powers. This "hit" represents the sort of thing that
psychics do all the time (and they ignore misses), when they pretend
to contact departed loved ones. People like James Randi and Penn
Gillette could do a much better job of explaining (or doing) it, but
it's just playing the odds. If we were face-to-face, and I had a
couple minutes, I could throw out a bunch of other guesses, like "did
this person like water?" or "was there some court case involved?" and
watch for responses. If I were recording the whole thing to use later
(like the TV psychics), I could then edit out all the "no, that
doesn't apply" kind of responses and just keep the good ones. Even
people who were there, if they were inclined to magical thinking,
would likely believe that I'd done something extraordinary. Notice
how Graham couldn't get anything to fit on his chosen line, so he
resorted to fitting in bits from nearby lines, and using sounds-like
(foray = AAAA) to make a fit to something *completely unrelated* to
the question. I would really like to see someone with magic powers
(assuming they weren't somehow used against me), but it always seems
to come down to two things: delusion or fraud.

So,
Did this person like water?
Was there a court case?
I'm sensing the letter 'M'. Did this person's name, or the name of a
close associate, start with 'M'? (if not, maybe it turns out the clue
means the person was male, or knew someone who was).
Does the color blue mean anything here?
There was something odd about the person's left hand, I think. Does
that make sense?

Clocky

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May 22, 2012, 4:11:54 AM5/22/12
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Not particularly that I'm aware of, however water may have played a part in
cause of death.

> Was there a court case?

No.

> I'm sensing the letter 'M'. Did this person's name, or the name of a
> close associate, start with 'M'?

Surname starts with M.

(if not, maybe it turns out the clue
> means the person was male, or knew someone who was).

Care to guess if male or female?

> Does the color blue mean anything here?

Yes, the person was feeling "blue".

> There was something odd about the person's left hand, I think. Does
> that make sense?

The person was left handed.

That's a pretty good display of cold reading ;-)


BruceS

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May 22, 2012, 1:23:45 PM5/22/12
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That really made me laugh. Yes, that's exactly what it is, and I
think you're pretty clear on what I'm saying. A "psychic" would have
jumped on the water bit as a hit, even though you said "might";
ignored the court bit or said you just didn't know about it; guessed
the sex at random, with a 50% chance (I guess "female"); would have
really expanded on the "blue" bit; and would have been very excited
about the left-handed bit. That's way better than I expected. Look
out, Graham, a new psychic is in town, and he's ready to rumble!

Clocky

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May 23, 2012, 6:07:58 AM5/23/12
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Wrong - he's male, so then you would have add that you see a close female -
possibly his mother or grandmother or a sister... that should cover up that
miss and turn it into a hit.

would have
> really expanded on the "blue" bit; and would have been very excited
> about the left-handed bit. That's way better than I expected. Look
> out, Graham, a new psychic is in town, and he's ready to rumble!

Haha, it pretty much went as I expected though your hit ratio is quite
good... if I was a believer, I would be utterly convinced that you made a
"connection".

It's amusing how bad Graham is at cold reading, but that's related to his
delusional and disjointed mental state inhibiting his reasoning and rational
thought.


BruceS

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May 23, 2012, 10:24:06 AM5/23/12
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I don't know if he had a sister, but I'm pretty sure he had a mother.
Yes...I'm seeing a mother figure, who had some major influence on
him. There was something unusual about her...

Or maybe it's the "opposites" bit. I knew a guy who believed in magic
powers, and claimed that getting too low a hit rate was *also* a
success.

>
> would have
>
> > really expanded on the "blue" bit; and would have been very excited
> > about the left-handed bit.  That's way better than I expected.  Look
> > out, Graham, a new psychic is in town, and he's ready to rumble!
>
> Haha, it pretty much went as I expected though your hit ratio is quite
> good... if I was a believer, I would be utterly convinced that you made a
> "connection".
>
> It's amusing how bad Graham is at cold reading, but that's related to his
> delusional and disjointed mental state inhibiting his reasoning and rational
> thought.

Someone else (or maybe several someones) mentioned the name of the
condition where schizophrenics find patterns where there are none, and
turn random associations into significant relationships. I'm too lazy
to look it up, but Graham seems to have it in spades. I've noticed
odd coincidences enough times, and seen shapes in clouds, etc., and
I'm sure most people have. The unfortunate part is that while
sometimes Graham stabilizes and returns to a saner condition, it never
lasts.

Graham Cooper

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May 25, 2012, 5:13:03 AM5/25/12
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oh pulleze, Randi and everyone at JREF KNOW I'm Genesis Adam.

so does half of queensland already.

you know, where KINGS BEACH is?

the only reason Bruce got "SMALL GUY" was

1/ he cheated
2/ he butted in on my channel

the only reason CLOCKY and BRUCE are patting each other on the back is

1/ CLOCKY is too dim to think "DNA request" was more specific than "A
SHORT PERSON"
2/ Bruce and Clocky know they are losers and covering it up.

I can take a photo of the mona lisa on cue, with more brushstrokes
than DaVinci, everyone can see it and you fools carry on

1/ nah it's water vapour, look up "cloud"
2/ can't see a thing!

Herc
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-------------------------
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BB(5) 1.7 x 10^352
BB(6) 1.9 x 10^4933
...
BB(199) COOPERS NUMBER
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includes PorkyPig Jnr's Number = CN+1

Clocky

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May 25, 2012, 5:50:49 AM5/25/12
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They know you're insane.
>
> so does half of queensland already.

Everyone who has ever met you in person would have worked out that you are
mentally disfunctional.

> you know, where KINGS BEACH is?

QLD somewhere. I've probably been there but I don't remember specifically.

>
> the only reason Bruce got "SMALL GUY" was
>
> 1/ he cheated

How?

> 2/ he butted in on my channel
>

You answered first, remember, but your answer was nothing like as relevant
or accurate.

> the only reason CLOCKY and BRUCE are patting each other on the back is
>
> 1/ CLOCKY is too dim to think "DNA request" was more specific than "A
> SHORT PERSON"

There was no DNA request, how could that even be more relevant and Bruce
interpreted the answer and asked a specific question which turned out to be
pretty accurate.

> 2/ Bruce and Clocky know they are losers and covering it up.
>

Jealous much, Cooper? Sucks to be shown up by a couple of sceptics in a fair
test doesn't it?

> I can take a photo of the mona lisa on cue, with more brushstrokes
> than DaVinci, everyone can see it and you fools carry on
>

Only you can see it usually, or haven't you noticed?

> 1/ nah it's water vapour, look up "cloud"
> 2/ can't see a thing!
>

What about Bruce's other hits?

You got none, well except for one very vague answer that I have to use some
pretty loose extrapolation to make fit and then you twisted it to make it
sound more relevant than it actually is.

Hardly a convincing display on your part, Cooper.


Graham Cooper

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May 25, 2012, 3:43:56 PM5/25/12
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> sound more ...
>
> read more




debating skeptics is like taking a police interview

no use arguing with the adjudicators

anyway I don't see how you can call it a miss, even the whole passage
was about a tearful ceremony

at least Clocky gave it a fair shot, that's all that matters, unlike
the skeptic companies for the last decade.

http://camaffiliate.com/media/PETER-BOW-DITCH.jpg


Clocky

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May 25, 2012, 6:08:00 PM5/25/12
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That formation looks very much like the Aboriginal dude on the $2 coin, have
a look!


Graham Cooper

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May 25, 2012, 6:19:56 PM5/25/12
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and the guy who sold me camgirls.com FRANK SCHILLING

http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/thumb/thumb-vegas.jpg

the guys worth $100M

Clocky

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May 26, 2012, 6:29:09 AM5/26/12
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Not really.

>
> http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/thumb/thumb-vegas.jpg
>
> the guys worth $100M

And you're worth the value of your next disability pension payment. What's
your point?


BruceS

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May 27, 2012, 8:21:08 PM5/27/12
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On May 25, 3:13 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 12:24 am, BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> > Someone else (or maybe several someones) mentioned the name of the
> > condition where schizophrenics find patterns where there are none, and
> > turn random associations into significant relationships.  I'm too lazy
> > to look it up, but Graham seems to have it in spades.  I've noticed
> > odd coincidences enough times, and seen shapes in clouds, etc., and
> > I'm sure most people have.  The unfortunate part is that while
> > sometimes Graham stabilizes and returns to a saner condition, it never
> > lasts.
>
> oh pulleze, Randi and everyone at JREF KNOW I'm Genesis Adam.

Well no, not quite. He didn't remember you at all at first, but when
I told him enough about you to register, he said effectively "Oh, he's
just crazy." To be fair, after I'd laughed a bit, I realized he's not
being entirely reasonable about it, as pretty much anyone applying for
his prize is mentally unstable.

>
> so does half of queensland already.
>
> you know, where KINGS BEACH is?
>
> the only reason Bruce got  "SMALL GUY" was
>
> 1/ he cheated

Would you care to explain *how* I cheated?

> 2/ he butted in on my channel

This is surely the best thing I've seen from you yet. I "butted in on
{your} channel"? So, you're saying I read your mind? I was only able
to get good results (far better than you *ever* have) because I read
your mind?

>
> the only reason CLOCKY and BRUCE are patting each other on the back is
>
> 1/ CLOCKY is too dim to think "DNA request" was more specific than "A
> SHORT PERSON"
> 2/ Bruce and Clocky know they are losers and covering it up.
>
> I can take a photo of the mona lisa on cue, with more brushstrokes
> than DaVinci, everyone can see it and you fools carry on

OK, that's an interesting claim. Please go ahead and post a photo of
the Mona Lisa with "more brushstrokes than DaVinci" (how is that
possible) and post it for us.

> 1/  nah it's water vapour, look up "cloud"
> 2/ can't see a thing!

Hmm...are you saying your "photo of the mona lisa" is really just
another of your cloud pics, that look nothing like the Mona Lisa to
anyone but you?

Graham Cooper

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May 30, 2012, 2:10:53 PM5/30/12
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this is just ..ramble..ramble..ramble..

the proof is in the pudding!

I mailed an international post card of KINGS BEACH to Randi. Genie 1

Then 6 months later I emailed him Genie 2.

the DOG is UNMISTAKABLE!

Then last month I emailed him Genie 3, the 3 Dragons.

Remember the map of the world with Australia and Queensland was a
Genie's horse head?

Kings beach was at the heart of the Genie...

the next day Randi has a map of the world of the northern hemisphere
on his site with the caption "I love a good detective story".

i.e. I also sent him the earlier snapshots of the Dragon from
Neverending Story.

Herc

Graham Cooper

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May 30, 2012, 2:24:30 PM5/30/12
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> Then last month I emailed him Genie 3, the 3 Dragons.
>
> Remember the map of the world with Australia and Queensland was a
> DRAGON's horse head?


http://camaffiliate.com/media/RANDi-RESPONSE.png

Next day I had 2 wishes left and found this!

http://camaffiliate.com/media/MonkeyClawI.JPG
http://camaffiliate.com/media/MonkeyClawII.JPG


Herc

Clocky

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May 31, 2012, 10:01:42 PM5/31/12
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More likely everything you send to Randi goes straight in the bin but it's
interesting to observe your broken brain managing to connect all these
completely unrelated things.

You were much more coherent when you were taking your pills, however.



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